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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to a WebOriginal/DoubleToasted [[https://youtu.be/fb9vLWThll8 interview with]] Creator/BradJones, sometime around the release of ''Film/TheDisasterArtist'', ''Grizzly II'' producer Suzanne Nagy[[note]]who had initially contacted Jones several years earlier in a clash over Jones’ [[WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob Cinema Snob]] review of the leaked workprint; the two later mended fences[[/note]] had several phone conversations with him about writing a {{Mockumentary}}-style adaptation of ''Grizzly II''’s TroubledProduction. Nagy’s vision apparently included some surrealist elements, like the bear doing interviews. Jones was interested, but eventually the conversations ceased, presumably as Nagy redirected her attention to finally finishing ''Grizzly II'' itself.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to a WebOriginal/DoubleToasted WebVideo/DoubleToasted [[https://youtu.be/fb9vLWThll8 interview with]] Creator/BradJones, sometime around the release of ''Film/TheDisasterArtist'', ''Grizzly II'' producer Suzanne Nagy[[note]]who had initially contacted Jones several years earlier in a clash over Jones’ [[WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob Cinema Snob]] review of the leaked workprint; the two later mended fences[[/note]] had several phone conversations with him about writing a {{Mockumentary}}-style adaptation of ''Grizzly II''’s TroubledProduction. Nagy’s vision apparently included some surrealist elements, like the bear doing interviews. Jones was interested, but eventually the conversations ceased, presumably as Nagy redirected her attention to finally finishing ''Grizzly II'' itself.
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* NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals: The filmmakers used a tame Kodiak bear named Teddy for shots of the Grizzly in action. By all accounts, Teddy was remarkably well-behaved to the point that he could not be induced to engage in menacing behavior by the filmmakers and maybe times he looked too gosh-darn ''cute'' to appear like a threat. Teddy was induced to rear up and snap his jaws by feeding him marshmallows, but could not be made to roar, swipe or otherwise menace the actors. This forced the filmmakers to use creature effects, including a stuntman in a bear suit, for the actual attack scenes and to dub in bear noises made by the crew.
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* NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals: The filmmakers used a tame Kodiak bear named Teddy for shots of the Grizzly in action. By all accounts, Teddy was remarkably well-behaved to the point that he could not be induced to engage in menacing behavior by the filmmakers and maybe at times he looked too gosh-darn ''cute'' to appear like a threat. Teddy was induced to rear up and snap his jaws by feeding him marshmallows, but could not be made to roar, swipe or otherwise menace the actors. This forced the filmmakers to use creature effects, including a stuntman in a bear suit, for the actual attack scenes and to dub in bear noises made by the crew.
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** Montoro's reputation for embezzlement ang general sleaze left investors leery of supporting ''Grizzly II''. With Montoro unreliable, Sheldon and [=McCall=] turned to Joseph Ford Proctor, who had recently worked with Creator/JerryLewis -- and didn't mention the fact that he was a serial fraudster who had scammed Lewis out of a million dollars. Another producer, the Hungarian-American Suzanne Nagy, pushed for the film to be shot in Hungary as both a cost-saving measure and in order to boost her native country's film industry. As the film entered pre-production, the budget and scale of the film swelled.
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** Montoro's reputation for embezzlement ang and general sleaze left investors leery of supporting ''Grizzly II''. With Montoro unreliable, Sheldon and [=McCall=] turned to Joseph Ford Proctor, who had recently worked with Creator/JerryLewis -- and didn't mention the fact that he was a serial fraudster who had scammed Lewis out of a million dollars. Another producer, the Hungarian-American Suzanne Nagy, pushed for the film to be shot in Hungary as both a cost-saving measure and in order to boost her native country's film industry. As the film entered pre-production, the budget and scale of the film swelled.
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* FanNickname: "Paws" for the film, as a joke on how similar it is to ''Film/{{Jaws}}''.
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* NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals: The filmmakers used a tame Kodiak bear named Teddy for shots of the Grizzly in action. By all accounts, Teddy was remarkably well-behaved to the point that he could not be induced to engage in menacing behavior by the filmmakers; filmmakers and maybe times he looked too gosh-darn ''cute'' to appear like a threat. Teddy was induced to rear up and snap his jaws by feeding him marshmallows, but could not be made to roar, swipe or otherwise menace the actors. This forced the filmmakers to use creature effects, including a stuntman in a bear suit, for the actual attack scenes and to dub in bear noises made by the crew.
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* NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals: The filmmakers used a tame Kodiak bear named Teddy for shots of the Grizzly in action. By all accounts, Teddy was remarkably well-behaved to the point that he could not be induced to engage in menacing behavior by the filmmakers; he was induced to rear up and snap his jaws by feeding him marshmallows, but could not be made to roar, swipe or otherwise menace the actors. This forced the filmmakers to use creature effects, including a man in a bear suit, for the actual attack scenes and to dub in bear noises made by the crew.
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* NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals: The filmmakers used a tame Kodiak bear named Teddy for shots of the Grizzly in action. By all accounts, Teddy was remarkably well-behaved to the point that he could not be induced to engage in menacing behavior by the filmmakers; he was induced to rear up and snap his jaws by feeding him marshmallows, but could not be made to roar, swipe or otherwise menace the actors. This forced the filmmakers to use creature effects, including a man stuntman in a bear suit, for the actual attack scenes and to dub in bear noises made by the crew.
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* NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals: The filmmakers used a tame Kodiak bear named Teddy for shots of the Grizzly in action. By all accounts, Teddy was remarkably well-behaved to the point that he could not be induced to engage in menacing behavior by the filmmakers; he was induced to rear up and snap his jaws by feeding him marshmallows, but could not be made to roar, swipe or otherwise menace the actors. This forced the filmmakers to use creature effects, including a man in a bear suit, for the actual attack scenes and to dub in bear noises made by the crew.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to a WebOriginal/DoubleToasted [[https://youtu.be/fb9vLWThll8 interview with]] Creator/BradJones], sometime around the release of ''Film/TheDisasterArtist'', ''Grizzly II'' producer Suzanne Nagy[[note]]who had initially contacted Jones several years earlier in a clash over Jones’ [[WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob Cinema Snob]] review of the leaked workprint; the two later mended fences[[/note]] had several phone conversations with him about writing a {{Mockumentary}}-style adaptation of ''Grizzly II''’s TroubledProduction. Nagy’s vision apparently included some surrealist elements, like the bear doing interviews. Jones was interested, but eventually the conversations ceased, presumably as Nagy redirected her attention to finally finishing ''Grizzly II'' itself.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to a WebOriginal/DoubleToasted [[https://youtu.be/fb9vLWThll8 interview with]] Creator/BradJones], Creator/BradJones, sometime around the release of ''Film/TheDisasterArtist'', ''Grizzly II'' producer Suzanne Nagy[[note]]who had initially contacted Jones several years earlier in a clash over Jones’ [[WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob Cinema Snob]] review of the leaked workprint; the two later mended fences[[/note]] had several phone conversations with him about writing a {{Mockumentary}}-style adaptation of ''Grizzly II''’s TroubledProduction. Nagy’s vision apparently included some surrealist elements, like the bear doing interviews. Jones was interested, but eventually the conversations ceased, presumably as Nagy redirected her attention to finally finishing ''Grizzly II'' itself.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to a WebOriginal/DoubleToasted [[https://youtu.be/fb9vLWThll8 interview with]] Creator/BradJones], sometime around the release of ''Film/TheDisasterArtist'', ''Grizzly II'' producer Suzanne Nagy[[note]]who had initially contacted Jones several years earlier in a clash over Jones’ [[WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob Cinema Snob]] review of the leaked workprint; the two later mended fences[[/note]] had several phone conversations with him about writing a {{Mockumentary}}-style adaptation of ''Grizzly II''’s TroubledProduction. Nagy’s vision apparently included some surrealist elements, like the bear doing interviews. Jones was interested, but eventually the conversations ceased, presumably as Nagy redirected her attention to finally finishing ''Grizzly II'' itself.
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** In 2007, the workprint of ''Grizzly II'' was leaked and became a popular bootleg, rekindling interest in a famous [[MissingEpisode lost film]]. In 2018, Nagy decided to finally finish the film, using StockFootage of grizzly bears in place of the lack of special effects, and it premiered on streaming in 2020.
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** In 2007, the workprint of ''Grizzly II'' was leaked and became a popular bootleg, rekindling interest in a famous [[MissingEpisode lost film]]. In 2018, Nagy decided to finally finish the film, using StockFootage of grizzly bears in place of the lack of special effects, and it premiered on streaming digitally in 2020.2021.
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* TroubledProduction: ''Grizzly II'' had a hell of one, overlapping with TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment, [[https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/8/31/21406226/grizzly-ii-george-clooney-laura-dern-john-rhys-davies chronicled in extensive detail here]]. Needless to say, the film likely would have taken a lot fewer than 37 years to see a formal release had the filmmakers not agreed to film in Iron Curtain-era Hungary and trusted a producer who had scammed Creator/JerryLewis out of a million dollars.
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* TroubledProduction: ''Grizzly II'' had took a hell staggering [[TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment thirty-seven years]] to see the light of one, overlapping with TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment, day, as documented in [[https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/8/31/21406226/grizzly-ii-george-clooney-laura-dern-john-rhys-davies chronicled in extensive detail here]]. Needless to say, this article]] by Brian Raftery for ''The Ringer''.
** For starters, thefilm likely would have taken a lot fewer than 37 years first ''Film/{{Grizzly}}'' was subject to see a formal release had the filmmakers not agreed to film in Iron Curtain-era Hungary and trusted a UsefulNotes/HollywoodAccounting by producer Edward L. Montoro, who insisted that it failed to turn a profit even as it made $30 million on a $750,000 budget, forcing screenwriters David Sheldon and Harvey Flaxman to sue him to collect their share of the royalties. Evidently, they eventually put it behind them, as Montoro asked Sheldon to write a sequel, with Sheldon agreeing on the condition that he also be allowed to direct. Montoro agreed, and Sheldon and his wife Joan [=McCall=] got to work on the script.
** Montoro's reputation for embezzlement ang general sleaze left investors leery of supporting ''Grizzly II''. With Montoro unreliable, Sheldon and [=McCall=] turned to Joseph Ford Proctor, who hadscammed recently worked with Creator/JerryLewis -- and didn't mention the fact that he was a serial fraudster who had scammed Lewis out of a million dollars.dollars. Another producer, the Hungarian-American Suzanne Nagy, pushed for the film to be shot in Hungary as both a cost-saving measure and in order to boost her native country's film industry. As the film entered pre-production, the budget and scale of the film swelled.
** At some point, Proctor went behind Sheldon's back to install the Hungarian commercial filmmaker André Szöts as director despite his lack of experience working on feature films. Sheldon didn't find out until the ''Grizzly II'' team arrived in Hungary without him, and was not happy when he did -- nor, for that matter, was Nagy. What's more, Szöts largely ignored Sheldon's script.
** The spot that Nagy had picked out to shoot the film turned out to be the site of a Red Army training camp, and the Soviets were not interested in playing ball with a film production. The concert scenes especially, featuring bands like Toto Coelo and Music/{{Nazareth}}, were a point of contention, as large gatherings like that were regarded with great suspicion by the authorities, especially when they were staged by people from the West. Nagy won over the Soviet general in charge by promising that the whole affair would be brief and self-contained. The audience of about 40-50,000 people was more than double what they anticipated, but it was fairly well-behaved, largely due to the threat of the SecretPolice hanging over everything.
** The morning after the concert scenes were shot, however, Nagy learned from her husband that Proctor had delivered some bad news: there wasn't enough money left to finish the shoot. An American surgeon, of all people, arrived to bail out the production with half a million dollars, not enough to finish it but enough to keep it going for now. Unfortunately, when Nagy went through the paperwork Proctor had left behind, she found a mountain of unpaid debts, and while she tried to keep this from the cast and crew, rumors still swirled and hurt morale on set. While Proctor denies it, virtually everybody involved agrees that Proctor had been embezzling money from the production, and skipped town when the gig was up. (He would later serve two separate prison sentences in Thailand and the US for unrelated scams.) What's more, the Hungarian crew was resistant to taking orders from Nagy, while they also got into fights with the Western special effects crew.
** Production wrapped in fall of 1983, with all scenes shot except most of the special effects shots of the bear -- rather important to have on a [[AttackOfTheKillerWhatever killer bear]] film titled ''Grizzly II'', which was unreleaseable without them. It was hoped that these scenes would be shot in the US, but Hungarian officials, frustrated by the debts that Proctor had wrapped up, seized the animatronic bears as collateral. The production was told, without evidence, that the bears were destroyed in a warehouse fire, which took with it any chance of finishing the bear scenes for a production that could not afford to replace them. A rough cut screened for producer Arnold Kopelson, who could've provided the remaining funds to finish the film, was a disaster, as Kopelson hated what he saw of the film and threw the producers out of his house. Afterwards, Nagy spent the rest of TheEighties trying to finish the film to no avail, and still occasionally spoke about it in the years after.
** In 2007, the workprint of ''Grizzly II'' was leaked and became a popular bootleg, rekindling interest in a famous [[MissingEpisode lost film]]. In 2018, Nagy decided to finally finish the film, using StockFootage of grizzly bears in place of the lack of special effects, and it premiered on streaming in 2020.
** For starters, the
** Montoro's reputation for embezzlement ang general sleaze left investors leery of supporting ''Grizzly II''. With Montoro unreliable, Sheldon and [=McCall=] turned to Joseph Ford Proctor, who had
** At some point, Proctor went behind Sheldon's back to install the Hungarian commercial filmmaker André Szöts as director despite his lack of experience working on feature films. Sheldon didn't find out until the ''Grizzly II'' team arrived in Hungary without him, and was not happy when he did -- nor, for that matter, was Nagy. What's more, Szöts largely ignored Sheldon's script.
** The spot that Nagy had picked out to shoot the film turned out to be the site of a Red Army training camp, and the Soviets were not interested in playing ball with a film production. The concert scenes especially, featuring bands like Toto Coelo and Music/{{Nazareth}}, were a point of contention, as large gatherings like that were regarded with great suspicion by the authorities, especially when they were staged by people from the West. Nagy won over the Soviet general in charge by promising that the whole affair would be brief and self-contained. The audience of about 40-50,000 people was more than double what they anticipated, but it was fairly well-behaved, largely due to the threat of the SecretPolice hanging over everything.
** The morning after the concert scenes were shot, however, Nagy learned from her husband that Proctor had delivered some bad news: there wasn't enough money left to finish the shoot. An American surgeon, of all people, arrived to bail out the production with half a million dollars, not enough to finish it but enough to keep it going for now. Unfortunately, when Nagy went through the paperwork Proctor had left behind, she found a mountain of unpaid debts, and while she tried to keep this from the cast and crew, rumors still swirled and hurt morale on set. While Proctor denies it, virtually everybody involved agrees that Proctor had been embezzling money from the production, and skipped town when the gig was up. (He would later serve two separate prison sentences in Thailand and the US for unrelated scams.) What's more, the Hungarian crew was resistant to taking orders from Nagy, while they also got into fights with the Western special effects crew.
** Production wrapped in fall of 1983, with all scenes shot except most of the special effects shots of the bear -- rather important to have on a [[AttackOfTheKillerWhatever killer bear]] film titled ''Grizzly II'', which was unreleaseable without them. It was hoped that these scenes would be shot in the US, but Hungarian officials, frustrated by the debts that Proctor had wrapped up, seized the animatronic bears as collateral. The production was told, without evidence, that the bears were destroyed in a warehouse fire, which took with it any chance of finishing the bear scenes for a production that could not afford to replace them. A rough cut screened for producer Arnold Kopelson, who could've provided the remaining funds to finish the film, was a disaster, as Kopelson hated what he saw of the film and threw the producers out of his house. Afterwards, Nagy spent the rest of TheEighties trying to finish the film to no avail, and still occasionally spoke about it in the years after.
** In 2007, the workprint of ''Grizzly II'' was leaked and became a popular bootleg, rekindling interest in a famous [[MissingEpisode lost film]]. In 2018, Nagy decided to finally finish the film, using StockFootage of grizzly bears in place of the lack of special effects, and it premiered on streaming in 2020.
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* TroubledProduction: ''Grizzly II'' had a hell of one, overlapping with TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment, [[https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/8/31/21406226/grizzly-ii-george-clooney-laura-dern-john-rhys-davies chronicled in extensive detail here]]. Needless to say, the film likely would have taken a lot fewer than 27 years to see a formal release had the filmmakers not agreed to film in Iron Curtain-era Hungary and trusted a producer who had scammed Creator/JerryLewis out of a million dollars.
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* TroubledProduction: ''Grizzly II'' had a hell of one, overlapping with TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment, [[https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/8/31/21406226/grizzly-ii-george-clooney-laura-dern-john-rhys-davies chronicled in extensive detail here]]. Needless to say, the film likely would have taken a lot fewer than 27 37 years to see a formal release had the filmmakers not agreed to film in Iron Curtain-era Hungary and trusted a producer who had scammed Creator/JerryLewis out of a million dollars.
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* TroubledProduction: ''Grizzly II'' had a hell of one, overlapping with TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment, [[https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/8/31/21406226/grizzly-ii-george-clooney-laura-dern-john-rhys-davies chronicled in extensive detail here]]. Needless to say, the film likely would have taken a lot fewer than 27 years to see a formal release had the filmmakers not agreed to film in Iron Curtain-era Hungary and trusted a producer who had scammed Creator/JerryLewis out of a million dollars.
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it... that is, until the film was finally SavedFromDevelopmentHell in 2020.
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* FollowTheLeader: There is little in this movie not directly lifted from ''Film/{{Jaws}}''. A comparison can be found [[http://www.bmoviegraveyard.com/reviews/G/Grizzly/ here]].
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Seeing as ''Grizzly II'' was never even finished (the executive producer disappeared with all of the funding before they could film most of the special effects scenes), bootleg copies are the only way you'll ever seeit.it.
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* FollowTheLeader: There is little in this movie not directly lifted from ''Film/{{Jaws}}''. A comparison can be found [[http://www.bmoviegraveyard.com/reviews/G/Grizzly/ here]].
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* HeyItsThatGuy: ''Grizzly II'' was the first movie of both Charlie Sheen ''and'' George Clooney, plus one of the first films of Laura Dern.
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Seeing as ''Grizzly II'' was never even finished (the executive producer disappeared with all of the funding before they could film most of the special effects scenes), bootleg copies are the only way you'll ever see it.
