History Trivia / Ghostbusters

27th Nov '16 5:58:07 AM MrTerrorist
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* CreatorBacklash: Ivan Reitman didn't like the deluxe laserdisc edition of his movie, because the higher-density lighting that the format allowed made a lot of the matte work in his film too obvious for viewers to ignore.

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Ivan Reitman didn't like the deluxe laserdisc edition of his movie, because the higher-density lighting that the format allowed made a lot of the matte work in his film too obvious for viewers to ignore.


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** Wilhelm von Homburg, the actor who played Prince Vigo, was not pleased when he learned all of his lines were dubbed over by Creator/MaxVonSydow. He left the premiere of the movie in anger upon seeing this.
14th Nov '16 11:58:26 AM NWolfman
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* DevelopmentHell: That damned third movie. Rumors of it ever getting made started as early as the release of ''Film/GhostbustersII'' and only even ended because Creator/HaroldRamis ''died''. While Creator/DanAykroyd had written a treatment, in which the team go to hell, Ramis's falling out with Creator/BillMurry during the production of ''Film/GroundhogsDay'' stood in the way of physical production ever beginning (the two men wouldn't patch things up until just before Ramis passed away). The notorious 2016 reboot was seen as a compromise.

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* DevelopmentHell: That damned third movie. Rumors of it ever getting made started as early as the release of ''Film/GhostbustersII'' and only even ended because Creator/HaroldRamis ''died''. While Creator/DanAykroyd had written a treatment, in which the team go to hell, Ramis's falling out with Creator/BillMurry Creator/BillMurray during the production of ''Film/GroundhogsDay'' ''Film/GroundhogDay'' stood in the way of physical production ever beginning (the two men wouldn't patch things up until just before Ramis passed away). The notorious 2016 reboot was seen as a compromise.
14th Nov '16 11:57:59 AM NWolfman
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* DevelopmentHell: That damned third movie. Rumors of it ever getting made started as early as the release of ''Film/GhostbustersII'' and only even ended because Creator/HaroldRamis ''died''. While Creator/DanAykroyd had written a treatment, in which the team go to hell, Ramis's falling out with Creator/BillMurry during the production of ''Film/GroundhogsDay'' stood in the way of physical production ever beginning (the two men wouldn't patch things up until just before Ramis passed away). The notorious 2016 reboot was seen as a compromise.
3rd Nov '16 5:54:59 AM fruitstripegum
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: For a great movie, ''Ghostbusters'' varies tremendously from its original concept. Creator/DanAykroyd's original script called for multiple groups of ghostbusters who traveled through time and fought ghosts in different dimensions. This idea was rejected as technically unfeasible in 1985. Supposedly, the special effects would have cost over $300 million. Ivan Reitman re-purposed the script as a "going into business" story to make it more accessible to audiences.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: For a great movie, ''Ghostbusters'' varies tremendously from its original concept. Creator/DanAykroyd's original script called for multiple groups of ghostbusters who traveled through time and fought ghosts in different dimensions.dimensions wearing SWAT-like gear and using wands to battle ghosts. This idea was rejected as technically unfeasible in 1985. Supposedly, the special effects would have cost over $300 million. Ivan Reitman re-purposed the script as a "going into business" story to make it more accessible to audiences.
14th Oct '16 9:35:35 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* OffTheShelfFX: Venkman's ghost-sniffer, also known as the "Bacharach Chemical Sniffer," which is used primarily for detecting gas leaks. This also carries over into the guys' HomemadeInventions (a kitchen colander with wires and things on it, for one).
** The ectoplasm was made from methylcellulose ether, a thickening agent used in processed foods.
** The "marshmallow" goo was actually shaving cream. More than 50 gallons was dumped on William Atherton, almost knocking him to the ground.
11th Sep '16 9:25:21 PM SpringwoodSlasher
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* CreatorCameo: Ivan Reitman does the demonic Zuul voice ("There is no Dana only Zuul!").


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* CreatorCameo: Ivan Reitman does the demonic Zuul voice ("There is no Dana only Zuul!").
20th Aug '16 11:00:30 AM CumbersomeTercel
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*** One of the results of the photo shoot in issue two of "The New Ghostbusters" has Ron Alexander (who's based on Chevy Chase) [[Film/NationalLampoonsEuropeanVacation in a pig suit]].

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*** One of the results of the photo shoot in issue two of "The New Ghostbusters" has Ron Alexander (who's based on Chevy Chase) Creator/ChevyChase) [[Film/NationalLampoonsEuropeanVacation in a pig suit]].



* CreatorCameo: Director Ivan Reitman does the demonic Zuul voice ("There is no Dana only Zuul!").

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* CreatorBacklash: Ivan Reitman didn't like the deluxe laserdisc edition of his movie, because the higher-density lighting that the format allowed made a lot of the matte work in his film too obvious for viewers to ignore.
* CreatorCameo: Director Ivan Reitman does the demonic Zuul voice ("There is no Dana only Zuul!").Zuul!").
** Creator/BillMurray was unhappy with the second film.
--> "Those special-effects guys took over. It was too much of the slime and not enough of us."



** From the first film, during the GoodTimesMontage, Ray is shown dreaming about a female ghost hovering over him and unbuttoning his pants for some spectral loving. This was actually part of a larger scene later in the film where he and Winston were investigating an army fort, and this was where they were coming back from before the "dead rising from the grave" scene.
** A number of scenes from the first film were either originally longer (such as the confrontation with the Dean when Peter, Ray and Egon are fired, Peter arguing with Dana in her apartment after he checks out her fridge, Peter and Ray talking with the Mayor before going off to face Gozer followed by Peter interrupting a moment between Egon and Janine) or completely cut (the Stay Puft Marshmellow Man's hat falling on the crowd at the end).

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** From the first film, during the GoodTimesMontage, Ray is shown dreaming about a female ghost hovering over him and unbuttoning his pants for some spectral loving. This was actually part of a larger scene later in the film where he and Winston Many sequences were investigating an army fort, and this was where they were coming back from before the "dead rising from the grave" scene.
** A number of scenes
shot but removed from the first film (a couple of the following were either originally longer (such added as extras to the confrontation Criterion Collection CAV laserdisc release) :
*** Several shots in the sequence where Venkman, Stantz, and Spengler are thrown off campus were cut.
*** Several scenes throughout the film with Janine and Egon were cut.
*** The first time Venkman leaves Dana's apartment, he says to Louis "What a woman."
*** The "green slimer" ghost is discovered by two newlyweds at the Hotel Sedgewick. Also cut was a Ghostbuster inspection of the room.
*** A policeman tries to ticket the Ectomobile, but the car won't let him.
*** Creator/BillMurray and Creator/DanAykroyd play two bums that witness Louis being chased by the terror dog. This scene was removed because the filmmakers felt the audience would be confused by seeing Murray and Aykroyd in different roles in the same movie.
*** Ray and Winston inspect Fort Detmerring, where Ray dresses in an old General's coat and falls asleep. When he awakes, he sees a female ghost above his bed. This part of the sequence was kept and used in the montage in the middle of the film.
*** Louis encounters two muggers in Central Park during the ghost montage.
*** Venkman and Stantz discuss matters
with the Dean when Peter, Ray and mayor outside City Hall.
*** Janine giving
Egon are fired, Peter arguing with Dana in her apartment after a coin for luck before he checks out her fridge, Peter and Ray talking goes off with the Mayor before going off other Ghostbusters to face Gozer followed fight Gozer; they are interrupted by Peter interrupting a moment between Egon and Janine) or completely cut (the Stay Puft Marshmellow Man's Venkman.
*** The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man sequence ends with his large
hat falling on to the crowd at the end).ground.



** According to Ernie Hudson, this is the reason why the sequel isn't seen as the same level of quality as the first. After executives saw how popular the first movie was with kids, they forced some changes onto the second movie to make it more appealing to a younger audience. Much like what happened to later seasons of ''WesternAnimation/TheRealGhostbusters'', they tried to fix something that wasn't broken; thankfully, the movie didn't suffer too much from it.
** Also the reason Winston is a lesser character -- when Hudson signed on, Winston was in the script from page eight (rather than toward the end of act 1), and was by far the most technically competent and qualified of the Ghostbusters. [[WordOfGod Aykroyd]] apparently still blames himself for Hudson's character being sidelined. (as WhatCouldHaveBeen below shows, the more proeminent Winston was even written with Eddie Murphy in mind)

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** According to Ernie Hudson, Creator/ErnieHudson, this is the reason why the sequel isn't seen as the same level of quality as the first. After executives saw how popular the first movie was with kids, they forced some changes onto the second movie to make it more appealing to a younger audience. Much like what happened to later seasons of ''WesternAnimation/TheRealGhostbusters'', they tried to fix something that wasn't broken; thankfully, the movie didn't suffer too much from it.
** Also the reason Winston is a lesser character -- when Hudson signed on, Winston was in the script from page eight (rather than toward the end of act 1), and was by far the most technically competent and qualified of the Ghostbusters. [[WordOfGod Aykroyd]] apparently still blames himself for Hudson's character being sidelined. (as WhatCouldHaveBeen below shows, the more proeminent prominent Winston was even written with Eddie Murphy Creator/EddieMurphy in mind)



** The ectoplasm was made from methylcellulose ether, a thickening agent used in processed foods.
** The "marshmallow" goo was actually shaving cream. More than 50 gallons was dumped on William Atherton, almost knocking him to the ground.
* PlayingAgainstType: Before this film, Creator/SigourneyWeaver was known for serious movies, but she had done a lot of comedy at Yale Drama School and wanted to show that side of herself.



* RecycledSet: The hallway scenes were shot on a set originally built for the movie ''Film/RichAndFamous''.



** In the Ghostbusters' commercial, Egon looking down to find his mark was an actual flub by Harold Ramis that everyone agreed fit the character.

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** In the Ghostbusters' commercial, Egon looking down to find his mark was an actual flub by Harold Ramis Creator/HaroldRamis that everyone agreed fit the character.character.
** The part where the bookcase falls over and Venkman asks Ray "Has this ever happened to you before?" was not part of the original script. The bookcase actually fell over of its own accord (possibly from being disturbed by various crew members) and the subsequent lines were ad-libbed. It was decided to leave this material in as it added an extra element of mystery to the atmosphere as to whether it was a natural occurrence, or a malicious act on the part of the ghost that the soon-to-be ghost busters were looking for.
** When Venkman mentions the time Spengler tried to drill a hole in his head, Spengler's response ("That would have worked if you hadn't stopped me") was actually ad-libbed by Ramis.
** The party scene where Louis Tully mingles with his party guests (commenting on the price of the salmon, and so on) is not only taken in one continuous shot, but is almost entirely improvised.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: For a great movie, ''Ghostbusters'' varies tremendously from its original concept. Aykroyd's original script called for multiple groups of ghostbusters who traveled through time and fought ghosts in different dimensions. This idea was rejected as technically unfeasible in 1985. Supposedly, the special effects would have cost over $300 million. Ivan Reitman re-purposed the script as a "going into business" story to make it more accessible to audiences.
** Many actors were switched out or not intended as their original performers, the part of Ray Stanz being by far the most stable as it was designed for co-writer Dan Aykroyd almost from the start.
*** The part of Venkman was written for John Belushi, [[AuthorExistenceFailure but he died before that could become a reality]]. The part was then offered to fellow ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' alum Chevy Chase, but he declined. Bill Murray, the driving force of the movie, was a last-minute addition to the cast. While Murray made the role his own, several lines are clearly intended for Belushi, such as the speech after the university fires them. It sounds corny from Murray, who usually plays a cynic, but Belushi was good with such bombastic speeches.
*** Creator/EddieMurphy was to play Winston, who would have been part of the original group along with Ray, Peter and Egon. He was described as a former Marine and Ph.D.-level scientist, the original script called for Winston, not Venkman, to be slimed in the Sedgewick Hotel. Murphy was left out because they didn't want the movie to be perceived as an ''Series/SaturdayNightLive''-inspired film (even though Harold Ramis was never an ''SNL'' cast member; he was on ''Series/{{SCTV}}'', which some people see as a LighterAndSofter Canadian version of ''SNL''), and because he was busy with ''Film/BeverlyHillsCop'' at the time. Winston was then re-written as more of a blue-collar everyman and eventually given to Ernie Hudson, though WordOfGod has it that Winston was a [[SemperFi Marine]] and a [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar Vietnam veteran]] before joining the Ghostbusters (this never comes up in the films or the animated series, the latter of which has two episodes stating that Winston was previously a construction worker).

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: For a great movie, ''Ghostbusters'' varies tremendously from its original concept. Aykroyd's Creator/DanAykroyd's original script called for multiple groups of ghostbusters who traveled through time and fought ghosts in different dimensions. This idea was rejected as technically unfeasible in 1985. Supposedly, the special effects would have cost over $300 million. Ivan Reitman re-purposed the script as a "going into business" story to make it more accessible to audiences.
** Many actors were switched out or not intended as their original performers, the part of Ray Stanz being by far the most stable as it was designed for co-writer Dan Aykroyd almost from the start.
*** The part of Venkman was written for John Belushi, Creator/JohnBelushi, [[AuthorExistenceFailure but he died before that could become a reality]]. The part was then offered to fellow ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' alum Chevy Chase, Creator/ChevyChase, but he declined. Bill Murray, Creator/BillMurray, the driving force of the movie, was a last-minute addition to the cast. While Murray made the role his own, several lines are clearly intended for Belushi, such as the speech after the university fires them. It sounds corny from Murray, who usually plays a cynic, but Belushi was good with such bombastic speeches.
*** Creator/EddieMurphy was to play Winston, who would have been part of the original group along with Ray, Peter and Egon. He was described as a former Marine and Ph.D.-level scientist, the original script called for Winston, not Venkman, to be slimed in the Sedgewick Hotel. Murphy was left out because they didn't want the movie to be perceived as an ''Series/SaturdayNightLive''-inspired film (even though Harold Ramis Creator/HaroldRamis was never an ''SNL'' cast member; he was on ''Series/{{SCTV}}'', which some people see as a LighterAndSofter Canadian version of ''SNL''), and because he was busy with ''Film/BeverlyHillsCop'' at the time. Winston was then re-written as more of a blue-collar everyman and eventually given to Ernie Hudson, Creator/ErnieHudson, though WordOfGod has it that Winston was a [[SemperFi Marine]] and a [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar Vietnam veteran]] before joining the Ghostbusters (this never comes up in the films or the animated series, the latter of which has two episodes stating that Winston was previously a construction worker).



*** Harold Ramis was not originally intending to play Egon, he never had much success as an actor and was just interested in writing for the film. After a hard time casting for Egon, Aykroyd and Reitman suggested that Ramis would be perfect for the role and as soon as he read for it everyone agreed.

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*** Harold Ramis Creator/HaroldRamis was not originally intending to play Egon, he never had much success as an actor and was just interested in writing for the film. After a hard time casting for Egon, Egon (Creator/JeffGoldbum, Creator/JohnLithogow, Creator/ChristopherLloyd and Creator/ChristopherWalken were considered), Aykroyd and Reitman suggested that Ramis would be perfect for the role and as soon as he read for it everyone agreed.agreed.



** The second movie was apparently supposed to start getting into the "other dimension" aspect of the mythology but that was changed at the last minute to something closer in plot to the first movie. Bill Murray was upset with the radical changes to the script and it is another reason why the third movie has been in DevelopmentHell. Unfortunately, it is this similarity to the first movie that contributes to its overall poor reception. The Game was able to ''finally'' get into this aspect of the premise, being cheaper to do than a movie format.
** Originally Gozer was going to take the form of a man in a business suit and would have been played by Paul Reubens. Reitman was the one to devise the androgynous form at the last minute, believing it would work better as a supernatural manifestation rather than the rather mundane look. However, the Video Game's design of Ivo Shandor is said to be based upon what Paul Reubens might look like in ten or fifteen years' time.

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** The second movie was apparently supposed to start getting into the "other dimension" aspect of the mythology but that was changed at the last minute to something closer in plot to the first movie. Bill Murray Creator/BillMurray was upset with the radical changes to the script and it is another reason why the third movie has been in DevelopmentHell. Unfortunately, it is this similarity to the first movie that contributes to its overall poor reception. The Game was able to ''finally'' get into this aspect of the premise, being cheaper to do than a movie format.
** Originally Gozer was going to take the form of a man in a business suit and would have been played by Paul Reubens.Creator/PaulReubens. Reitman was the one to devise the androgynous form at the last minute, believing it would work better as a supernatural manifestation rather than the rather mundane look. However, the Video Game's design of Ivo Shandor is said to be based upon what Paul Reubens might look like in ten or fifteen years' time.



** The Ectomobile was originally going to be painted black until it was pointed out that most driving would be at night and the car would be difficult to see. It was then repainted white.



** According to Chevy Chase the script he read was much darker, scarier and more violent than the film that actually got made.

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** According to Chevy Chase Creator/ChevyChase the script he read was much darker, scarier and more violent than the film that actually got made.



** The original version of the script began with the Ecto-mobile flying out of Ghostbusters HQ, but Reitman suggested that it would be better to show how the team got started.
** The Stay-Puft marshmallow man was originally supposed to come up out of the water right next to The Statue of Liberty, to get a contrast of size, but the scene was too hard to shoot.



** Apparently, Sigourney Weaver had offered to make a [[RemakeCameo cameo appearance]] in Paul Feig's reboot... [[http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a633276/sigourney-weaver-offered-to-play-slimer-in-ghostbusters-reboot.html#~poRzq8LjHZbXxi as Slimer.]] Feig turned the idea down, though Weaver endded up filming a cameo anyway.
** The long-retired Rick Moranis also declined an offer to make a cameo in the reboot.
28th Jul '16 2:27:29 AM StrangeBro
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** Ray's preference for deep-dish pizza is probably a nod to his ''Film/TheBluesBrothers'' and ''Series/SCTV'' roots. (Pizza is SeriousBusiness for New Yorkers, and liking Chicago's is tantamount to treason.)

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** Ray's preference for deep-dish pizza is probably a nod to his ''Film/TheBluesBrothers'' and ''Series/SCTV'' ''Series/{{SCTV}}'' roots. (Pizza is SeriousBusiness for New Yorkers, and liking Chicago's is tantamount to treason.)
28th Jul '16 2:26:49 AM StrangeBro
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** Ray's preference for deep-dish pizza is probably a nod to his ''Film/TheBluesBrothers'' and ''Series/SCTV'' roots. (Pizza is SeriousBusiness for New Yorkers, and liking Chicago's is tantamount to treason.)
19th Jul '16 3:38:03 PM Mr.French
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* OneOfUs: Ray in the cartoon. He's very into cartoons and superhero comic books.
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