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* StarDerailingRole: While Creator/NicolasCage had been sliding from the A-list since the failure of ''Film/BangkokDangerous'' in 2008, this was TheLastStraw for him as a leading man in a theatrically-released film. After this, his movies started going DirectToVideo.

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* StarDerailingRole: While Creator/NicolasCage had been sliding from the A-list since the failure of ''Film/BangkokDangerous'' in 2008, ''Film/BangkokDangerous2008'', this was TheLastStraw for him as a leading man in a theatrically-released film. After this, his movies started going DirectToVideo.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally intended to be a dark and violent R-rated adaptation that would have fixed much of what fans disliked about the first film, but Sony got cold feet about the idea and instead wanted to go for a more marketing friendly PG-13 rating.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The creators behind ''Film/DriveAngry'' originally presented a treatment of ''Ghost Rider 2'' which would have been a true sequel to the original film instead of the reboot it turned out to be. [[http://wendago.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/GHOST_RIDER_2.pdf It was deemed too violent, but in any case, it is insane.]]
** Creator/EvaLongoria was considered for the role of Nadya.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The creators behind ''Film/DriveAngry'' originally presented a treatment of ''Ghost Rider 2'' which would have been a true sequel to the original film instead of the reboot it turned out to be. [[http://wendago.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/GHOST_RIDER_2.pdf It was deemed too violent, but in any case, it is insane.]]
** Creator/EvaLongoria was considered for the role of Nadya.



** Creator/PeterFonda was reportedly asked to come back, but after reading the first five pages of the script he flat out refused.

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** Creator/PeterFonda was reportedly asked to come back, but after reading the first five pages of the script he flat out refused.flat-out refused.
** Creator/EvaLongoria was considered for the role of Nadya.


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** The creators behind ''Film/DriveAngry'' originally presented a treatment of ''Ghost Rider 2'' which would have been a true sequel to the original film instead of the reboot it turned out to be. [[http://wendago.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/GHOST_RIDER_2.pdf It was deemed too violent, but in any case, it is insane.]]
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** ''Film/PunisherWarZone'' started Marvel Knights in the hospital. This film put them in the morgue; Marvel as a whole took control of the series.

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** ''Film/PunisherWarZone'' started sent Marvel Knights in the hospital. This film put them in the morgue; Marvel as a whole took control of the series.
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Moving to YMMV under Development Heaven


* DoingItForTheArt: Creator/NicolasCage prepared for the role by invoking [[UsefulNotes/{{Voudoun}} Baron Samedi]] and other death entities in makeup and costuming. Instead of just wearing basic mo-cap markers on his face, he wore full Baron Samedi facepaint, had Egyptian talismans and relics sewn into the leather jacket and gathering tourmaline and onyx in his pockets to "gather these energies together and shock his imagination into believing that [he] was augmented by them in some way, or in contact with ancient ghosts". Walking onto set not saying a word and weirding out the cast and crew, he believed he was the Ghost Rider.
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* StarDerailingRole: While Creator/NicolasCage had been sliding from the A-list since the failure of ''Film/BangkokDangerous'' in 2008, this was TheLastStraw for him as a leading man in a theatrically-released film. After this, his movies started going DirectToVideo.

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* CreatorCameo: Directors Neveldine/Taylor cameo as the Devil and a man making a Deal.



* DoingItForTheArt: Nicolas Cage prepared for the role by invoking [[UsefulNotes/{{Voudoun}} Baron Samedi]] and other death entities in makeup and costuming. Instead of just wearing basic mo-cap markers on his face, he wore full Baron Samedi facepaint, had Egyptian talismans and relics sewn into the leather jacket and gathering tourmaline and onyx in his pockets to "gather these energies together and shock his imagination into believing that [he] was augmented by them in some way, or in contact with ancient ghosts". Walking onto set not saying a word and weirding out the cast and crew, he believed he was the Ghost Rider.

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* DeletedRole: Creator/NoelClarke had a cameo role that was removed from the film in post-production.
* DoingItForTheArt: Nicolas Cage Creator/NicolasCage prepared for the role by invoking [[UsefulNotes/{{Voudoun}} Baron Samedi]] and other death entities in makeup and costuming. Instead of just wearing basic mo-cap markers on his face, he wore full Baron Samedi facepaint, had Egyptian talismans and relics sewn into the leather jacket and gathering tourmaline and onyx in his pockets to "gather these energies together and shock his imagination into believing that [he] was augmented by them in some way, or in contact with ancient ghosts". Walking onto set not saying a word and weirding out the cast and crew, he believed he was the Ghost Rider.Rider.
* DyeingForYourArt: Creator/ChristopherLambert shaved his head for the film.
* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was originally intended to be a dark and violent R-rated adaptation that would have fixed much of what fans disliked about the first film, but Sony got cold feet about the idea and instead wanted to go for a more marketing friendly PG-13 rating.


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* NotScreenedForCritics: The film wasn't screened in advance for critics.
* TheOtherDarrin: Matt Long, who portrayed the young Johnny Blaze in the first film, was originally set to reprise his role, but was eventually replaced by Ionut Christian Lefter.


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** Creator/EvaLongoria was considered for the role of Nadya.


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** Creator/PeterFonda was reportedly asked to come back, but after reading the first five pages of the script he flat out refused.
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** Johnny touches Danny's hair, trying to comfort him, and plays it off by saying there was a [[Film/TheWickerMan2006 bee there and he was afraid it was going to sting his face.]]
** Methodius, played by Creator/ChristopherLambert, when getting ready to fight with a sword, [[Film/{{Highlander}} spins the blade in a rather familiar fashion.]]
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**The film's script was adapted from a draft written by David S. Goyer that predated the first movie by six years. One of the notable differences is that Carrigan becomes the Scarecrow rather than Blackout.
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* DoingItForTheArt: Nicolas Cage prepared for the role by invoking [[{{Voudoun}} Baron Samedi]] and other death entities in makeup and costuming. Instead of just wearing basic mo-cap markers on his face, he wore full Baron Samedi facepaint, had Egyptian talismans and relics sewn into the leather jacket and gathering tourmaline and onyx in his pockets to "gather these energies together and shock his imagination into believing that [he] was augmented by them in some way, or in contact with ancient ghosts". Walking onto set not saying a word and weirding out the cast and crew, he believed he was the Ghost Rider.

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* DoingItForTheArt: Nicolas Cage prepared for the role by invoking [[{{Voudoun}} [[UsefulNotes/{{Voudoun}} Baron Samedi]] and other death entities in makeup and costuming. Instead of just wearing basic mo-cap markers on his face, he wore full Baron Samedi facepaint, had Egyptian talismans and relics sewn into the leather jacket and gathering tourmaline and onyx in his pockets to "gather these energies together and shock his imagination into believing that [he] was augmented by them in some way, or in contact with ancient ghosts". Walking onto set not saying a word and weirding out the cast and crew, he believed he was the Ghost Rider.
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** Methodius, played by Christopher Lambert, when getting ready to fight with a sword, [[Film/{{Highlander}} spins the blade in a rather familiar fashion.]]

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** Methodius, played by Christopher Lambert, Creator/ChristopherLambert, when getting ready to fight with a sword, [[Film/{{Highlander}} spins the blade in a rather familiar fashion.]]
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** Johnny touches Danny's hair, trying to comfort him, and plays it off by saying there was a [[Film/TheWickerMan bee there and he was afraid it was going to sting his face.]]

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** Johnny touches Danny's hair, trying to comfort him, and plays it off by saying there was a [[Film/TheWickerMan [[Film/TheWickerMan2006 bee there and he was afraid it was going to sting his face.]]

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* CreatorKiller: ''Film/PunisherWarZone'' started Marvel Knights in the hospital. This film put them in the morgue; Marvel as a whole took control of the series.

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''Film/PunisherWarZone'' started Marvel Knights in the hospital. This film put them in the morgue; Marvel as a whole took control of the series.series.
** The film also marked the end of the road for the Neveldine/Taylor directing team, who went their separate ways after production wrapped, and have both since been relegated to working on NoBudget horror flicks.
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** Johnny touches Danny's hair, trying to comfort him, and plays it off by saying there was a [[TheWickerMan bee there and he was afraid it was going to sting his face.]]

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** Johnny touches Danny's hair, trying to comfort him, and plays it off by saying there was a [[TheWickerMan [[Film/TheWickerMan bee there and he was afraid it was going to sting his face.]]



* FranchiseKiller: The film's underperformance led to the rights going back to Marvel Studios after the studio's purchase of the property exceeded the film's profits.

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* FranchiseKiller: The film's underperformance led to the rights going back to Marvel Studios after the studio's Sony's purchase of the property exceeded the film's profits.
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* CreatorKiller: ''Punisher: War Zone'' started Marvel Knights in the hospital. This film put them in the morgue; Marvel as a whole took control of the series.

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* CreatorKiller: ''Punisher: War Zone'' ''Film/PunisherWarZone'' started Marvel Knights in the hospital. This film put them in the morgue; Marvel as a whole took control of the series.
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* CreatorCameo: Directors Neveldine/Taylor cameo as the Devil and a man making a Deal.
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* CreatorKiller: ''Punisher: War Zone'' started Marvel Knights in the hospital. This film put them in the morgue; Marvel as a whole took control of the series.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The creators behind ''Film/DriveAngry'' originally presented a treatment of ''Ghost Rider 2'' which would have been a true sequel to the original film instead of the reboot it turned out to be. It was deemed too violent but in any case it is insane. [[http://wendago.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/GHOST_RIDER_2.pdf]]

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* FranchiseKiller: The film's underperformance led to the rights going back to Marvel Studios after the studio's purchase of the property exceeded the film's profits.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The creators behind ''Film/DriveAngry'' originally presented a treatment of ''Ghost Rider 2'' which would have been a true sequel to the original film instead of the reboot it turned out to be. It was deemed too violent but in any case it is insane. [[http://wendago.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/GHOST_RIDER_2.pdf]]pdf It was deemed too violent, but in any case, it is insane.]]




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* ActorAllusion:
** Johnny touches Danny's hair, trying to comfort him, and plays it off by saying there was a [[TheWickerMan bee there and he was afraid it was going to sting his face.]]
** Methodius, played by Christopher Lambert, when getting ready to fight with a sword, [[Film/{{Highlander}} spins the blade in a rather familiar fashion.]]
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** EvaMendes was offered to reprise her role but turned it down.

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** EvaMendes Creator/EvaMendes was offered to reprise her role but turned it down.
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* DoingItForTheArt: Nicolas Cage prepared for the role by invoking [[{{Voudoun}} Baron Samedi]] and other death entities in makeup and costuming. Instead of just wearing basic mo-cap markers on his face, he wore full Baron Samedi facepaint, had Egyptian talismans and relics sewn into the leather jacket and gathering tourmaline and onyx in his pockets to "gather these energies together and shock his imagination into believing that [he] was augmented by them in some way, or in contact with ancient ghosts". Walking onto set not saying a word and weirding out the cast and crew, he believed he was the Ghost Rider.


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** EvaMendes was offered to reprise her role but turned it down.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The creators behind ''Film/DriveAngry'' originally presented a treatment of ''Ghost Rider 2'' which would have been a true sequel to the original film instead of the reboot it turned out to be. It was deemed too violent but in any case it is insane. [[http://wendago.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/GHOST_RIDER_2.pdf]]

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