History Trivia / EpicMickey

* DuelingGames: ''Very'' broadly. The simple fact that it's a rather "unorthodox" Creator/{{Disney}} game that features Mickey Mouse being cooler than you remember is getting it compared to the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series. [[FanDumb "Fans"]] occasionally bring in an "East vs. West" mentality to arguments over which is superior, to complicate matters further.

* PlayingAgainstType: OK, raise your hand if you expected the creator of ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' to helm a Mickey Mouse game before this was announced. Chances are, only a few actually did. Less of a surprise if you were aware of WarrenSpector's work on SteveJacksonGames' classic ''Toon!'' RPG.

** The "[[CharacterModelKarmaMeter Scrapper]]" mechanic (where [[WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse Mickey's]] appearance would change to reflect the player's moral decisions) has been... ''[[{{Pun}} scrapped.]]'' Depending on whether Mickey's actions were good or bad, his appearance would have changed into either the tall and proud "[[IncorruptiblePurePureness Hero]]" form or the dark, hunched-over "[[AntiHero Scrapper]]" form. Even before ''these'' were cut from the game, there were two other, much more evil-looking forms proposed (one of this you can see in this [[http://epicmickey.wikia.com/wiki/File:Concept-mickey.jpg concept art]]), that would only be attainable if the player took the worst actions possible. Spector said that [[SeriousBusiness people didn't like having Mickey's iconic appearance tampered with]]. Instead, now his {{Fairy Companion}}s turn blue or {{sickly green|Glow}}. To elaborate further, the change from the Scrapper/Hero system to Guardian system was made because then you'd have to worry less about people just trying to play the meter and instead make their own choices.

** The "[[CharacterModelKarmaMeter Scrapper]]" mechanic (where [[WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse Mickey's]] appearance would change to reflect the player's moral decisions) has been... ''[[{{Pun}} scrapped.]]'' Depending on whether Mickey's actions were good or bad, his appearance would have changed into either the tall and proud "[[IncorruptiblePurePureness Hero]]" form or the dark, hunched-over "[[AntiHero Scrapper]]" form. Even before ''these'' were cut from the game, there were two other, much more evil-looking forms proposed, that would only be attainable if the player took the worst actions possible. Spector said that [[SeriousBusiness people didn't like having Mickey's iconic appearance tampered with]]. Instead, now his {{Fairy Companion}}s turn blue or {{sickly green|Glow}}. To elaborate further, the change from the Scrapper/Hero system to Guardian system was made because then you'd have to worry less about people just trying to play the meter and instead make their own choices.

* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: Gametrailers.com mistakenly labeled [[Disney/{{Fantasia}} Yen Sid]] as [[Disney/TheSwordInTheStone Merlin]]. This was later corrected in the pop-up version of the opening cinematic. Not to mention how many people mistook the game as ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII'' when it first debuted.

* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Despite Disney's CrazyAwesome status listed in the YMMV tab, the finished game was originally supposed to be a late 2011/December 2011 release, but cut the development time by a full year, therefore the game technically '''isn't finished''', which explains [[CameraScrew most of]] [[LoveItOrHateIt the problems]].

* Oswald was also originally going to be the main antagonist of the game before he was made in to an anti-hero by Warren Specor when he was brought on as director, since Spector wanted people to love Oswald again, not hate or fear him.

* AscendedFanon: At a panel, Warren Spector mentioned that he limited the references to other Creator/{{Disney}} films up to Disney/TheJungleBook in order to prevent himself from going overboard. Creator/PeterDavid, on the same panel, mentioned that Disney/TheJungleBook was, incidentally, the last film Creator/WaltDisney had a direct hand in making, so Warren Spector said that was the official reason from now on.

* PlayingAgainstType: OK, raise your hand if you expected the creator of VideoGame/DeusEx to helm a Mickey Mouse game before this was announced. Chances are, only a few actually did. Less of a surprise if you were aware of WarrenSpector's work on SteveJacksonGames' classic ''Toon!'' RPG.
* PromotedFanboy: Warren Spector is a pretty big Disney fan. And now he gets to write for the WesternAnimation/DuckTales comic book after he's begged to make a WesternAnimation/DuckTales video game.

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The "Scrapper" mechanic (where [[MickeyMouse Mickey's]] appearance would change to reflect the player's moral decisions) has been... ''[[{{Pun}} scrapped.]]'' Spector said that [[SeriousBusiness people didn't like having Mickey's iconic appearance tampered with]]. Instead, now his {{Fairy Companion}}s turn blue or {{sickly green|Glow}}.
** To elaborate further, the change from the Scrapper/Hero system to Guardian system was made because then you'd have to worry less about people just trying to play the meter and instead make their own choices.
*** WordOfGod is that the leaked concept art was made of ideas rejected because they were ''too'' edgy for Spector.
** An Alice in Wonderland level based on Alice's Curious Labyrinth from [[Ride/DisneyThemeParks Disneyland Paris]] was planned but scrapped to avoid confusion with the Creator/TimBurton film. It can still be seen in Yen Sid's model of the Wasteland.
*** When Mickey spills the thinner into the Wasteland, one can see the Labyrinth model sinking away into nothingness, further explaining why it never appears in the game.
** [[http://hamilton74.deviantart.com/art/Epic-Mickey-Attacking-193974282 These]] [[http://hamilton74.deviantart.com/art/Epic-Mickey-Storm-Blot-193975504 concept]] [[http://hamilton74.deviantart.com/art/Thinner-Mickey-193969166 arts]] [[http://hamilton74.deviantart.com/art/Thinner-Mickey-Sketch-194737327 say]] [[http://hamilton74.deviantart.com/art/Epic-Mickey-s-powers-193972562 it]] [[http://hamilton74.deviantart.com/art/The-Blot-confronting-Mickey-193972968 all]].
*** In specific, this art shows the unused Scrapper mechanic, as well as the "Storm Blot", a mixture of Oswald and The Shadow Blot.
*** Oswald was also originally going to be the main antagonist of the game before he was made in to an anti-hero by Warren Specor when he was brought on as director, since Spector wanted people to love Oswald again, not hate or fear him.

** A larger example comes from the decision why the game is a Wii exclusive. It was originally a XBOX 360/[=PS3=] game, but when he was asked about a Wii version, Warren Spector decided he didn't want to it to make it a bogged-down port. [[FridgeLogic So, they decided to make it a Wii exclusive...]](It should also be noted that he's also a big Nintendo fan.)

* AscendedFanon: At a panel, Warren Spector mentioned that he limited the references to other Creator/{{Disney}} films up to Disney/TheJungleBook in order to prevent himself from going overboard. Creator/PeterDavid, on the same panel, mentioned that Disney/TheJungleBook was, incidentally, the last film WaltDisney had a direct hand in making, so Warren Spector said that was the official reason from now on.

* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: Gametrailers.com mistakenly labeled [[Disney/{{Fantasia}} Yen Sid]] as [[Disney/TheSwordInTheStone Merlin]]. This was later corrected in the pop-up version of the opening cinematic. Not to mention how many people mistook the game as ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts III'' when it first debuted.

* DuelingGames: ''Very'' broadly. The simple fact that it's a rather "unorthodox" Creator/{{Disney}} game that features Mickey Mouse being cooler than you remember is getting it compared to the ''KingdomHearts'' series. [[FanDumb "Fans"]] occasionally bring in an "East vs. West" mentality to arguments over which is superior, to complicate matters further.

** The Phantom Blot would have appeared as a separate character from the Shadow Blot, but it was decided to only have the Shadow Blot because of concerns that players would be confused as to which Blot the characters are talking about.

** A larger example comes from the decision why the game is a Wii exclusive. It was originally a XBOX 360/PS3 game, but when he was asked about a Wii version, Warren Spector decided he didn't want to it to make it a bogged-down port. [[FridgeLogic So, they decided to make it a Wii exclusive...]](It should also be noted that he's also a big Nintendo fan.)

* HeyItsThatVoice:
** Creator/FrankWelker is {{Oswald|TheLuckyRabbit}}. Given his penchant for doing roars, he might be [[BigBad The Shadow Blot]] as well. [[spoiler: Both of them.]]
** Creator/DaveWittenberg is the Mad Doctor.
** Cary Elwes ([[Film/ThePrincessBride Westley]]) is Gus Gremlin in the second game.

** Creator/FrankWelker is {{Oswald|TheLuckyRabbit}}.

* NoExportForYou: The game had a long while before it was released in Japan, which is pretty odd, considering [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff how much the Japanese love Oswald]]. The Japanese release was finally set for August 4th, 2011 (nearly a year after the original release date), with Nintendo taking over publishing duties.

*** Oswald was also originally going to be the main antagonist of the game before he was made in to an anti-hero.

* AscendedFanon: At a panel, Warren Spector mentioned that he limited the references to other {{Disney}} films up to Disney/TheJungleBook in order to prevent himself from going overboard. Creator/PeterDavid, on the same panel, mentioned that Disney/TheJungleBook was, incidentally, the last film WaltDisney had a direct hand in making, so Warren Spector said that was the official reason from now on.

* DuelingGames: ''Very'' broadly. The simple fact that it's a rather "unorthodox" {{Disney}} game that features Mickey Mouse being cooler than you remember is getting it compared to the ''KingdomHearts'' series. [[FanDumb "Fans"]] occasionally bring in an "East vs. West" mentality to arguments over which is superior, to complicate matters further.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Seemingly averted. Interestingly, {{Disney}}'s support of the game style is rumored to be related to the business-savvy observation that the company's biggest profits in {{video game}}s come from ones willing to adopt a semi-dark style, as well as genuinely trying to revamp Mickey as a genuinely useful (and marketable) character.
* ExecutiveVeto: Granted, they've vetoed some minor elements along the way, but considering how over-protective {{Disney}}'s been regarding the Mouse (remember the ''WesternAnimation/RunawayBrain'' fiasco?), this could actually be a good thing by the company.

* NoExportForYou: Inverted as the game has yet to be released in Japan, which is pretty odd, considering [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff how much the Japanese love Oswald]].
** A Japanese release has finally been set for August 4th, 2011, with Nintendo taking over publishing duties, something they have done with other Western-developed Wii games, with the subtitle of ''Mickey and the Magic Brush'' and [[RegionalBonus some fixes to the camera issues]].

* ExecutiveVeto: Granted, they've vetoed some minor elements along the way, but considering how over-protective {{Disney}}'s been regarding the Mouse recently (remember the ''WesternAnimation/RunawayBrain'' fiasco?), this could actually be a good thing by the company.

** An Alice in Wonderland level based on Alice's Curious Labyrinth from [[DisneyThemeParks Disneyland Paris]] was planned but scrapped to avoid confusion with the Creator/TimBurton film. It can still be seen in Yen Sid's model of the Wasteland.

** A larger example comes from the decision why the game is a Wii exclusive. It was originally a XBOX 360/PS3 game, but when he was asked about a Wii version, Warren Spector decided he didn't want to it to make it a bogged-down port. [[FridgeLogic So, they decided to make it a Wii exclusive...]](It should also be noted that he's also a big Nintendo fan.)

** DaveWittenberg is the Mad Doctor.

* NoExportForYou: Inverted as the game has yet to be released in Japan, which is pret You can bet your left foot that most people who are aware of Oswald's existence owe it to the series Epic Mickey (which was intentionally made as a comeback vehicle for both him and his brother, and the games at least acknowledge Oswald's original cartoons). Adding to the issue is that while half of his cartoons are available on DVD, said set only got a limited release, and wasn't released in other countries.ty odd, considering [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff how much the Japanese love Oswald]].