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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: Why you could be tempted to call the trope "Schala Lives!" except for the detail [[spoiler:she ''is'' still alive, you just can't do anything about it until [[VideoGame/ChronoCross the sequel]].]]
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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: Why Many rumours were spoken of about non-existant content, most often about ways to allegedly save Schala from her unknown fate (''not'' helped by a line which originally meant "talk to your allies for help with sidequests" being translated as "someone close to you needs help... find this person, fast"). Why, you could be tempted to call the trope "Schala Lives!" (and indeed, we did for a while), except for the detail [[spoiler:she ''is'' still alive, you just can't do anything about it until [[VideoGame/ChronoCross the sequel]].]]
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** Massato Kato stated in his [[http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Crono.html CT Ultimania interview]] that he and Yuji Horii intended for Crono [[spoiler:to stay dead after the Ocean Palace scenario]]. The party would retrieve a version of him predating the Millennial Fair to complete the quest, and then return him to his home time, [[spoiler:bittersweetly knowing he would go on to die at the Ocean Palace]]. Square deemed this too depressing and had them [[spoiler:write the clone plot device to save him]].
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** Massato Masato Kato stated in his [[http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Crono.html CT Ultimania interview]] that he and Yuji Horii intended for Crono [[spoiler:to stay dead after the Ocean Palace scenario]]. The party would retrieve a version of him predating the Millennial Fair to complete the quest, and then return him to his home time, [[spoiler:bittersweetly knowing he would go on to die at the Ocean Palace]]. Square deemed this too depressing and had them [[spoiler:write the clone plot device to save him]].
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* FanSequel: The team behind ''VideoGame/CrimsonEchoes'', a fan-made {{interquel}} that connects this game with the events of ''Cross'', received a cease-and-desist from Square-Enix just as development of the game neared completion. Square-Enix's motives for doing so remain under speculation, but the game's ROM leaked despite the [=C&D=], so you can still play it.
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** There's yet ''another'' Mother Brain that's a major villain in ''Videogame/PhantasyStarIV'', also a supercomputer.
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** There's yet ''another'' Mother Brain that's a major villain in ''Videogame/PhantasyStarIV'', ''Videogame/PhantasyStarII'', also a supercomputer.
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* NamesTheSame: Mother Brain. No relation to Mother Brain of ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}}'' fame, although the pair would probably get along great.
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* NamesTheSame: NamesTheSame:
** Mother Brain. No relation to Mother Brain of ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}}'' fame, although the pair would probably get alonggreat.great.
** There's yet ''another'' Mother Brain that's a major villain in ''Videogame/PhantasyStarIV'', also a supercomputer.
** Mother Brain. No relation to Mother Brain of ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}}'' fame, although the pair would probably get along
** There's yet ''another'' Mother Brain that's a major villain in ''Videogame/PhantasyStarIV'', also a supercomputer.
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** It was actually confirmed that Gaspar, the Guru of Time, was going to be the final party member, not Schala as everyone believed.
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** It was actually confirmed that Gaspar, the Guru of Time, was going to be the final a party member, not Schala as everyone believed. was commonly theorized. May also have an (intentional?) OrphanedReference in the SNES translation: "If you really want to thank me, make me a member of your team!"
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* IKnewIt: Even before the NintendoDS remake, there was the occasional theory that Dalton was responsible for [[spoiler:Guardia's destruction between ''''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger and ''VideoGam/ChronoCross''.]]
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* IKnewIt: Even before the NintendoDS remake, there was the occasional theory that Dalton was responsible for [[spoiler:Guardia's destruction between ''''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger and ''VideoGam/ChronoCross''.''VideoGame/ChronoCross''.]]
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* BeamMeUpScotty: The iconic "GoodMorningCrono" appears on a bunch of wallpapers used to promote the DS remake, despite it being one of the lines that was altered in the new translation.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** It was actually confirmed that Gaspar, the Guru of Time, was going to be the final party member, not Schala as everyonebelieved.believed.
** Massato Kato stated in his [[http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Crono.html CT Ultimania interview]] that he and Yuji Horii intended for Crono [[spoiler:to stay dead after the Ocean Palace scenario]]. The party would retrieve a version of him predating the Millennial Fair to complete the quest, and then return him to his home time, [[spoiler:bittersweetly knowing he would go on to die at the Ocean Palace]]. Square deemed this too depressing and had them [[spoiler:write the clone plot device to save him]].
** It was actually confirmed that Gaspar, the Guru of Time, was going to be the final party member, not Schala as everyone
** Massato Kato stated in his [[http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Crono.html CT Ultimania interview]] that he and Yuji Horii intended for Crono [[spoiler:to stay dead after the Ocean Palace scenario]]. The party would retrieve a version of him predating the Millennial Fair to complete the quest, and then return him to his home time, [[spoiler:bittersweetly knowing he would go on to die at the Ocean Palace]]. Square deemed this too depressing and had them [[spoiler:write the clone plot device to save him]].
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The numerous fan sequels that received a cease and desist from Creator/SquareEnix, such as ''FanFic/CrimsonEchoes''.
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The numerous fan sequels that received a cease and desist from Creator/SquareEnix, such as ''FanFic/CrimsonEchoes''.''VideoGame/CrimsonEchoes''.
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* IKnewIt: Even before the DS remake, there was the occasional theory that Dalton was responsible for [[spoiler:Guardia's destruction between Trigger and Cross]].
* NoExportForYou: Up until the DS version, the game was never released in Europe. There's also the prototype version of ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' called ''Radical Dreamers''.
* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The numerous fan sequels that received a Cease & Desist from SquareEnix, such as ''FanFic/CrimsonEchoes''.
* TropeNamers: This game is the Trope Namer for:
** BarrierChangeBoss
** GoodMorningCrono
** NewGamePlus
** TechPoints
* NoExportForYou: Up until the DS version, the game was never released in Europe. There's also the prototype version of ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' called ''Radical Dreamers''.
* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The numerous fan sequels that received a Cease & Desist from SquareEnix, such as ''FanFic/CrimsonEchoes''.
* TropeNamers: This game is the Trope Namer for:
** BarrierChangeBoss
** GoodMorningCrono
** NewGamePlus
** TechPoints
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* IKnewIt: Even before the DS NintendoDS remake, there was the occasional theory that Dalton was responsible for [[spoiler:Guardia's destruction between Trigger ''''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger and Cross]].
''VideoGam/ChronoCross''.]]
* NoExportForYou: Up until the DS version, the game was never released in Europe. There's also the prototype version of''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' ''Chrono Cross'' called ''Radical Dreamers''.
* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The numerous fan sequels that received aCease & Desist cease and desist from SquareEnix, Creator/SquareEnix, such as ''FanFic/CrimsonEchoes''.
* TropeNamers: This game is theTrope Namer trope namer for:
**BarrierChangeBoss
BarrierChangeBoss.
**GoodMorningCrono
GoodMorningCrono.
**NewGamePlus
NewGamePlus.
**TechPointsTechPoints.
* NoExportForYou: Up until the DS version, the game was never released in Europe. There's also the prototype version of
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: It was actually confirmed that Gaspar, the guru Guru of time, Time, was going to be the final party member, not Schala as everyone believed.
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* IKnewIt: Even before the DS remake, there was the occasional theory that Dalton was responsible for [[spoiler:Guardia's destruction between Trigger and Cross]].
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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: Why you could be tempted to call the trope "Schala Lives!" except for the detail [[spoiler:she ''is'' still alive, you just can't do anything about it until [[ChronoCross [[VideoGame/ChronoCross the sequel]].]]
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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: Why you could be tempted to call the trope "Schala Lives!" except for the detail [[spoiler:she ''is'' still alive, you just can't do anything about it until the sequel.]]
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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: Why you could be tempted to call the trope "Schala Lives!" except for the detail [[spoiler:she ''is'' still alive, you just can't do anything about it until [[ChronoCross the sequel.sequel]].]]
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* Original Timeline "before" Crono's changes.
** Changes made due to Crono's party.
*** Additional changes made "later" to Time-Space.
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'''65 Million B.C.'''
* The Reptites are winning against the hairless apes known as humans. Ayla survives her battle with Azala and becomes Marle's ancestor. Lavos crashes into Tyranno Lair, killing Azala and plunging the world into a 64,988,000-year-long ice age. The Reptites cannot adapt to the environmental damage and die off; humanity ekes out a living for many millions of years to come.
** Crono and crew beat Azala, and witness the descent of Lavos anyways. All of the other stuff happens too.
'''12000 B.C. aka Antiquity'''
* Humanity survives the cold, and some actually discover how to tap into the energy that Lavos gives off; they use this for "magic." The [[{{Utopia}} Kingdom of Zeal]] is formed, with magic-users living lives of luxury in {{Floating Continent}}s above the ground, while the magic-less are slaves to serve in caves in the bitter cold below. The Queen of this country has her Three Gurus fashion a device that will better tap the source of their power deep underground, the Mammon Machine. When it is completed, she becomes DrunkOnTheDarkSide and becomes a despot. The Gurus also develop other equipment from the Mammon Machine: a Pendant that can affect time and space as well as a Sword that can drain such power; however these are fused with dream spirits to prevent the same effect the Mammon Machine has. The Gurus and Queen Zeal's children, Schala and Janus, try to stop Queen Zeal, but she activates the Mammon Machine. Lavos twitches in its sleep, and the resulting space-time writhing sends Melchior to 1000, Belthasar to 2300, and Gaspar to the End of Time. Janus is sent to circa 570. The Ocean Palace stays underwater. Presumably Queen Zeal and Schala die.
** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos (big surprise) and Crono is killed by the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Ocean Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is teleported off to who-cares-where by his own failed summoning Gate. Melchior is pulled into a time gate with Janus, and it is unknown where/when they turn up, as the circumstances are different from when it happened in the original timeline. Schala's fate is unknown...
*** Another incursion occurs to [[TrickedOutTime trade Crono with a Doll that looks like him]] through using the Chrono Trigger.
'''600 A.D.'''
* Janus from the original timeline gets sent here. Janus is found by the Fiend Ozzy. Ozzy raises Janus to become the scourge of humanity and Janus goes along with this in order to gain sufficient power to learn how to summon and kill Lavos. Janus, now called Magus, rises to lead the Fiends against humanity. He kills Hero Cyrus and curses Glenn into becoming Frog, also destroying the Masamune which had a negative effect on his own Lavos-related powers. Right before the Fiends are about to win, Magus attempts to summon Lavos. All that is known is that he didn't succeed and Magus vanishes from history.
** Crono and company beat back the Fiends and interrupt Magus's summoning ritual. Lavos twitches, Crono and company are sent to 65,000,000 B.C., and Magus is sent to Antiquity. At this point, there are two Maguses. One becomes the Prophet and is either killed by Crono's party or joins them, while the "original" vanished.
'''1000 A.D.'''
* Crono's time. Guardia is the primary superpower on the continent due to Porre to the south being too poor in resources due to the desert and its mayor being too miserly to care about development. The relationship between Guardia's king and princess is strained, but this means little in the long term. The Pendant of Dreamstone has been passed down throughout the Guardia family since Antiquity. Melchior from the original timeline gets sent here, where he sets up trade as a weapons merchant, and eventually repairs the broken Masamune.
** Due to changes that Crono's party makes, Porre is now surrounded by lush forest, and has a philanthropic mayor.
'''1999 A.D.'''
* Lavos ascends, and destroys the Earth.
** Lavos does ''not'' destroy the Earth; Lavos has been destroyed.
'''2300 A.D.'''
* The destroyed Future. Only a handful of what once lived still exists; Lavos orbits the Planet and continues to feed off the dying embers, while propagating its spawn. Robots have become sentient and under the Mother Brain project are becoming the new dominant life-form. Belthasar arrives via Gate to this time period and, with what ruined technology he can work with, builds a time machine and some other stuff.
** Lavos is dead; in one of the endings Robo is shown in the future Leene Square running into his girlfriend Atropos. Happy Endings all around.
'''End of Time'''
* Gaspar from the original timeline arrives here and eventually becomes the Old Man. Also, Spekkio gets here one way or another and sets up shop teaching strong time travelers to use magic.
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* Original Timeline "before" Crono's changes.
** Changes made due to Crono's party.
*** Additional changes made "later" to Time-Space.
'''For clarity, this article contains unmarked spoilers.'''
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'''65 Million B.C.'''
* The Reptites are winning against the hairless apes known as humans. Ayla survives her battle with Azala and becomes Marle's ancestor. Lavos crashes into Tyranno Lair, killing Azala and plunging the world into a 64,988,000-year-long ice age. The Reptites cannot adapt to the environmental damage and die off; humanity ekes out a living for many millions of years to come.
** Crono and crew beat Azala, and witness the descent of Lavos anyways. All of the other stuff happens too.
'''12000 B.C. aka Antiquity'''
* Humanity survives the cold, and some actually discover how to tap into the energy that Lavos gives off; they use this for "magic." The [[{{Utopia}} Kingdom of Zeal]] is formed, with magic-users living lives of luxury in {{Floating Continent}}s above the ground, while the magic-less are slaves to serve in caves in the bitter cold below. The Queen of this country has her Three Gurus fashion a device that will better tap the source of their power deep underground, the Mammon Machine. When it is completed, she becomes DrunkOnTheDarkSide and becomes a despot. The Gurus also develop other equipment from the Mammon Machine: a Pendant that can affect time and space as well as a Sword that can drain such power; however these are fused with dream spirits to prevent the same effect the Mammon Machine has. The Gurus and Queen Zeal's children, Schala and Janus, try to stop Queen Zeal, but she activates the Mammon Machine. Lavos twitches in its sleep, and the resulting space-time writhing sends Melchior to 1000, Belthasar to 2300, and Gaspar to the End of Time. Janus is sent to circa 570. The Ocean Palace stays underwater. Presumably Queen Zeal and Schala die.
** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos (big surprise) and Crono is killed by the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Ocean Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is teleported off to who-cares-where by his own failed summoning Gate. Melchior is pulled into a time gate with Janus, and it is unknown where/when they turn up, as the circumstances are different from when it happened in the original timeline. Schala's fate is unknown...
*** Another incursion occurs to [[TrickedOutTime trade Crono with a Doll that looks like him]] through using the Chrono Trigger.
'''600 A.D.'''
* Janus from the original timeline gets sent here. Janus is found by the Fiend Ozzy. Ozzy raises Janus to become the scourge of humanity and Janus goes along with this in order to gain sufficient power to learn how to summon and kill Lavos. Janus, now called Magus, rises to lead the Fiends against humanity. He kills Hero Cyrus and curses Glenn into becoming Frog, also destroying the Masamune which had a negative effect on his own Lavos-related powers. Right before the Fiends are about to win, Magus attempts to summon Lavos. All that is known is that he didn't succeed and Magus vanishes from history.
** Crono and company beat back the Fiends and interrupt Magus's summoning ritual. Lavos twitches, Crono and company are sent to 65,000,000 B.C., and Magus is sent to Antiquity. At this point, there are two Maguses. One becomes the Prophet and is either killed by Crono's party or joins them, while the "original" vanished.
'''1000 A.D.'''
* Crono's time. Guardia is the primary superpower on the continent due to Porre to the south being too poor in resources due to the desert and its mayor being too miserly to care about development. The relationship between Guardia's king and princess is strained, but this means little in the long term. The Pendant of Dreamstone has been passed down throughout the Guardia family since Antiquity. Melchior from the original timeline gets sent here, where he sets up trade as a weapons merchant, and eventually repairs the broken Masamune.
** Due to changes that Crono's party makes, Porre is now surrounded by lush forest, and has a philanthropic mayor.
'''1999 A.D.'''
* Lavos ascends, and destroys the Earth.
** Lavos does ''not'' destroy the Earth; Lavos has been destroyed.
'''2300 A.D.'''
* The destroyed Future. Only a handful of what once lived still exists; Lavos orbits the Planet and continues to feed off the dying embers, while propagating its spawn. Robots have become sentient and under the Mother Brain project are becoming the new dominant life-form. Belthasar arrives via Gate to this time period and, with what ruined technology he can work with, builds a time machine and some other stuff.
** Lavos is dead; in one of the endings Robo is shown in the future Leene Square running into his girlfriend Atropos. Happy Endings all around.
'''End of Time'''
* Gaspar from the original timeline arrives here and eventually becomes the Old Man. Also, Spekkio gets here one way or another and sets up shop teaching strong time travelers to use magic.
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** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos (big surprise) and Crono is killed by the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Ocean Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is teleported off to who-cares-where by his own failed summoning Gate. Melchior is pulled into a time gate with Janus, and it is unknown where/when they turn up, as the circumstances are different from when it happened in the original timeline. Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead.
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** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos (big surprise) and Crono is killed by the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Ocean Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is teleported off to who-cares-where by his own failed summoning Gate. Melchior is pulled into a time gate with Janus, and it is unknown where/when they turn up, as the circumstances are different from when it happened in the original timeline. Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead.unknown...
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** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos (big surprise) and Crono is killed by the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Ocean Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is teleported off to who-cares-where by his own failed summoning Gate. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users, which is now everybody. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead.
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** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos (big surprise) and Crono is killed by the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Ocean Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is teleported off to who-cares-where by his own failed summoning Gate. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society is pulled into a time gate with Janus, and it is unknown where/when they turn up, as the non-Magic Users, which is now everybody. (At this point, there circumstances are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during different from when it happened in the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and original timeline. Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead.
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* The Reptites are winning against the hairless apes known as humans. Whether or not Ayla survives the individual battle with Azala, however, the Reptites are killed off by Lavos landing on their capital before digging into the Earth and ushering in the next ice age. The Reptites cannot adapt to the environmental damage and die off; humanity ekes out a survival the next several million years.
** Crono and crew beat Azala, and witness the descent of Lavos anyways. Ayla and Kino definitely survive, but [[InSpiteOfANail nothing changes the timeline due to this change.]]
** Crono and crew beat Azala, and witness the descent of Lavos anyways. Ayla and Kino definitely survive, but [[InSpiteOfANail nothing changes the timeline due to this change.]]
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* The Reptites are winning against the hairless apes known as humans. Whether or not Ayla survives the individual her battle with Azala, however, the Reptites are killed off by Azala and becomes Marle's ancestor. Lavos landing on their capital before digging crashes into Tyranno Lair, killing Azala and plunging the Earth and ushering in the next world into a 64,988,000-year-long ice age. The Reptites cannot adapt to the environmental damage and die off; humanity ekes out a survival the next several million years.living for many millions of years to come.
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* Humanity survives the cold, and some actually discover how to tap into the energy that Lavos gives off; this becomes "magic." The [[{{Utopia}} Kingdom of Zeal]] is formed, with magic-users living lives of luxury in {{Floating Continent}}s above the ground, while the magic-less are slaves to serve in caves in the bitter cold below. The Queen of this country has her Three Gurus fashion a device that will better tap the source of their power deep underground, the Mammon Machine. When it is completed, she becomes DrunkOnTheDarkSide and becomes a despot. The Gurus also develop other equipment from the Mammon Machine: a Pendant that can affect time and space as well as a Sword that can drain such power; however these are fused with dream spirits to prevent the same effect the Mammon Machine has. The Gurus and Queen Zeal's children, Schala and Janus, try to stop Queen Zeal, but she activates the Mammon Machine. Lavos twitches in its sleep, and the resulting space-time writhing sends Melchior to 1000, Belthasar to 2300, and Gaspar to the End of Time. Janus is sent to just before 600. The Ocean Palace stays underwater. Presumably Queen Zeal dies. Schala, the Mammon Machine, and Lavos interact in such a way that this event is etched into Space/Time.
** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos and Crono dies against the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Ocean Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is sent into a reversed Summoning Gate to Porre in the year 1000+. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead.
** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos and Crono dies against the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Ocean Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is sent into a reversed Summoning Gate to Porre in the year 1000+. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead.
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* Humanity survives the cold, and some actually discover how to tap into the energy that Lavos gives off; they use this becomes for "magic." The [[{{Utopia}} Kingdom of Zeal]] is formed, with magic-users living lives of luxury in {{Floating Continent}}s above the ground, while the magic-less are slaves to serve in caves in the bitter cold below. The Queen of this country has her Three Gurus fashion a device that will better tap the source of their power deep underground, the Mammon Machine. When it is completed, she becomes DrunkOnTheDarkSide and becomes a despot. The Gurus also develop other equipment from the Mammon Machine: a Pendant that can affect time and space as well as a Sword that can drain such power; however these are fused with dream spirits to prevent the same effect the Mammon Machine has. The Gurus and Queen Zeal's children, Schala and Janus, try to stop Queen Zeal, but she activates the Mammon Machine. Lavos twitches in its sleep, and the resulting space-time writhing sends Melchior to 1000, Belthasar to 2300, and Gaspar to the End of Time. Janus is sent to just before 600.circa 570. The Ocean Palace stays underwater. Presumably Queen Zeal dies. Schala, the Mammon Machine, and Lavos interact in such a way that this event is etched into Space/Time.
Schala die.
** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos (big surprise) and Cronodies against is killed by the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Ocean Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is sent into a reversed Summoning Gate teleported off to Porre in the year 1000+. who-cares-where by his own failed summoning Gate. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users.Users, which is now everybody. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead.
** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos (big surprise) and Crono
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* Crono's time. Guardia is the primary superpower on the continent due to Porre to the south being too poor in resources due to the desert and its mayor being too miserly to care about development. The relationship between Guardia's king and princess are strained, but this means little in the long term. The Pendant of Dreamstone has been passed down throughout the Guardia family since Antiquity. Melchior from the original timeline gets sent here, where he sets up trade as a weapons merchant, and eventually repairs the broken Masamune.
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* Crono's time. Guardia is the primary superpower on the continent due to Porre to the south being too poor in resources due to the desert and its mayor being too miserly to care about development. The relationship between Guardia's king and princess are is strained, but this means little in the long term. The Pendant of Dreamstone has been passed down throughout the Guardia family since Antiquity. Melchior from the original timeline gets sent here, where he sets up trade as a weapons merchant, and eventually repairs the broken Masamune.
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** Lavos does ''not'' destroy the Earth; this timeline of Lavos is destroyed.
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** Lavos does ''not'' destroy the Earth; this timeline of Lavos is has been destroyed.
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* The destroyed Future. Only a handful of what once lived still exists; Lavos orbits the Planet and continues to feed off the dying embers, while propogating its spawn. Robots have become sentient and under the Mother Brain project are becoming the new dominant life-form. Belthasar arrives via Gate to this time period and, with what ruined technology he can work with, builds a time machine.
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* The destroyed Future. Only a handful of what once lived still exists; Lavos orbits the Planet and continues to feed off the dying embers, while propogating propagating its spawn. Robots have become sentient and under the Mother Brain project are becoming the new dominant life-form. Belthasar arrives via Gate to this time period and, with what ruined technology he can work with, builds a time machine.machine and some other stuff.
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** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos and Crono dies against the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Underwater Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is sent into a reversed Summoning Gate to Porre in the year 1000+. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead.
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** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos and Crono dies against the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Underwater Ocean Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is sent into a reversed Summoning Gate to Porre in the year 1000+. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead.
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** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos and Crono dies against the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Underwater Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is sent into a reversed Summoning Gate to Porre in the year 1000+. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead. Even though things are "changed", though, Schala and Lavos fusing with the Mammon Machine still "happens" in No Time. While the physical existance of Lavos continues its threat to this timeline, the Devourer borne of Schala/Lavos will threaten all of Existence "later."
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** Crono and company interfere with events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos and Crono dies against the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Underwater Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is sent into a reversed Summoning Gate to Porre in the year 1000+. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead. Even though things are "changed", though, Schala and Lavos fusing with the Mammon Machine still "happens" in No Time. While the physical existance of Lavos continues its threat to this timeline, the Devourer borne of Schala/Lavos will threaten all of Existence "later."
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* Humanity survives the cold, and some actually discover how to tap into the energy that Lavos gives off; this becomes "magic." The [[{{Utopia}} Kingdom of Zeal]] is formed, with magic-users living lives of luxury in {{Floating Continent}}s above the ground, while the magic-less are slaves to serve in caves in the bitter cold below. The Queen of this country has her Three Gurus fashion a device that will better tap the source of their power deep underground, the Mammon Machine. When it is completed, she becomes DrunkOnTheDarkSide and becomes a despot. The Gurus also develop other equipment from the Mammon Machine: a Pendant that can affect time and space as well as a Sword that can drain such power; however these are fused with dream spirits to prevent the same effect the Mammon Machine has. The Gurus and Queen Zeal's children, Schala and Janus, try to stop Queen Zeal, but she activates the Mammon Machine. Lavos twitches in its sleep, and the resulting space-time writhing sends Melchior to 1000, Belthasar to 2300, and Gaspar to the End of Time. Janus is sent to just before 600. The Underwater Palace stays underwater. Presumably Queen Zeal dies. Schala, the Mammon Machine, and Lavos interact in such a way that this event is etched into Space/Time. '''Even if this timeline were to change or be destroyed, this synergetic reaction would continue to exist, even in the [[PlaceBeyondTime Nothing Beyond Time.]]''' (This is important. It is this first timeline, this first temporal incursion, that results in the Devourer in ''ChronoCross.'')
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* Humanity survives the cold, and some actually discover how to tap into the energy that Lavos gives off; this becomes "magic." The [[{{Utopia}} Kingdom of Zeal]] is formed, with magic-users living lives of luxury in {{Floating Continent}}s above the ground, while the magic-less are slaves to serve in caves in the bitter cold below. The Queen of this country has her Three Gurus fashion a device that will better tap the source of their power deep underground, the Mammon Machine. When it is completed, she becomes DrunkOnTheDarkSide and becomes a despot. The Gurus also develop other equipment from the Mammon Machine: a Pendant that can affect time and space as well as a Sword that can drain such power; however these are fused with dream spirits to prevent the same effect the Mammon Machine has. The Gurus and Queen Zeal's children, Schala and Janus, try to stop Queen Zeal, but she activates the Mammon Machine. Lavos twitches in its sleep, and the resulting space-time writhing sends Melchior to 1000, Belthasar to 2300, and Gaspar to the End of Time. Janus is sent to just before 600. The Underwater Ocean Palace stays underwater. Presumably Queen Zeal dies. Schala, the Mammon Machine, and Lavos interact in such a way that this event is etched into Space/Time. '''Even if this timeline were to change or be destroyed, this synergetic reaction would continue to exist, even in the [[PlaceBeyondTime Nothing Beyond Time.]]''' (This is important. It is this first timeline, this first temporal incursion, that results in the Devourer in ''ChronoCross.'')\n
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* Janus from the original timeline gets sent here. Janus is found by the Fiend Ozzy. Ozzy raises Janus to become the scourge of humanity and Janus goes along with this in order to gain sufficient power to learn how to summon and kill Lavos. Janus, now called Magus, rises to lead the Fiends against humanity, kill Hero Cyrus and curse Glenn into becoming Frog, also destroying the Masamune which had a negative effect on his own Lavos-related powers. Right before the Fiends are about to win, Magus attempts to summon Lavos. All that is known is that he didn't succeed and Magus vanishes from history.
** Crono and company beat back the Fiends and interrupt Magus's summoning ritual. Lavos twitches, Crono and company are sent to 65,000,000 B.C., and Magus is sent to Antiquity. At this point, there are two Maguses. One becomes the Prophet and is either killed by Crono's party or joins them, while the "original" vanished. (In the new DS content, a Magus separate from the one the party encounters gets sent to the Darkness Beyond Time and gets mindwiped by Schala, presumably to become [[ChronoCross Guile]]. Whether this is that Magus or an entirely different timeline one isn't known.)
** Crono and company beat back the Fiends and interrupt Magus's summoning ritual. Lavos twitches, Crono and company are sent to 65,000,000 B.C., and Magus is sent to Antiquity. At this point, there are two Maguses. One becomes the Prophet and is either killed by Crono's party or joins them, while the "original" vanished. (In the new DS content, a Magus separate from the one the party encounters gets sent to the Darkness Beyond Time and gets mindwiped by Schala, presumably to become [[ChronoCross Guile]]. Whether this is that Magus or an entirely different timeline one isn't known.)
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* Janus from the original timeline gets sent here. Janus is found by the Fiend Ozzy. Ozzy raises Janus to become the scourge of humanity and Janus goes along with this in order to gain sufficient power to learn how to summon and kill Lavos. Janus, now called Magus, rises to lead the Fiends against humanity, kill humanity. He kills Hero Cyrus and curse curses Glenn into becoming Frog, also destroying the Masamune which had a negative effect on his own Lavos-related powers. Right before the Fiends are about to win, Magus attempts to summon Lavos. All that is known is that he didn't succeed and Magus vanishes from history.
** Crono and company beat back the Fiends and interrupt Magus's summoning ritual. Lavos twitches, Crono and company are sent to 65,000,000 B.C., and Magus is sent to Antiquity. At this point, there are two Maguses. One becomes the Prophet and is either killed by Crono's party or joins them, while the "original"vanished. (In the new DS content, a Magus separate from the one the party encounters gets sent to the Darkness Beyond Time and gets mindwiped by Schala, presumably to become [[ChronoCross Guile]]. Whether this is that Magus or an entirely different timeline one isn't known.)
vanished.
** Crono and company beat back the Fiends and interrupt Magus's summoning ritual. Lavos twitches, Crono and company are sent to 65,000,000 B.C., and Magus is sent to Antiquity. At this point, there are two Maguses. One becomes the Prophet and is either killed by Crono's party or joins them, while the "original"
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* Crono's time. Guardia is the primary superpower on the continent due to Porre to the south being too poor in resources due to the desert and its mayor being too miserly to care about development the rest of the country. The relationship between Guardia's king and princess are strained, but this means little in the long term of things. The Pendant of Dreamstone has been passed down throughout the Guardia family since Antiquity. Melchior from the original timeline gets sent here, where he sets up trade as a weapon merchant, and eventually repairs the broken Masamune.
** Due to changes that Crono's party makes, Porre is now surrounded by lush forest, and has a philanthrope mayor. Lucca's inventions skyrocket in popularity and they become a major consumer of her technological products.
*** In 1000+ Dalton arrives via Gate and finds a surprisingly powerful nation that can bend to his will. He influences Porre to wage war with Guardia.
** Due to changes that Crono's party makes, Porre is now surrounded by lush forest, and has a philanthrope mayor. Lucca's inventions skyrocket in popularity and they become a major consumer of her technological products.
*** In 1000+ Dalton arrives via Gate and finds a surprisingly powerful nation that can bend to his will. He influences Porre to wage war with Guardia.
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* Crono's time. Guardia is the primary superpower on the continent due to Porre to the south being too poor in resources due to the desert and its mayor being too miserly to care about development the rest of the country. development. The relationship between Guardia's king and princess are strained, but this means little in the long term of things.term. The Pendant of Dreamstone has been passed down throughout the Guardia family since Antiquity. Melchior from the original timeline gets sent here, where he sets up trade as a weapon weapons merchant, and eventually repairs the broken Masamune.
** Due to changes that Crono's party makes, Porre is now surrounded by lush forest, and has aphilanthrope mayor. Lucca's inventions skyrocket in popularity and they become a major consumer of her technological products.
*** In 1000+ Dalton arrives via Gate and finds a surprisingly powerful nation that can bend to his will. He influences Porre to wage war with Guardia.
philanthropic mayor.
** Due to changes that Crono's party makes, Porre is now surrounded by lush forest, and has a
*** In 1000+ Dalton arrives via Gate and finds a surprisingly powerful nation that can bend to his will. He influences Porre to wage war with Guardia.
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** Lavos does ''not'' destroy the Earth; this timeline of Lavos is destroyed. But it still exists because it existed in the First Timeline. Because Lavos absorbed Schala, it can adapt even to the Nothing Beyond Time; so casualty no longer matters to it. Kill it in as many timelines as one wants, The Devourer exists and will eventually destroy ''everything''.
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** Lavos does ''not'' destroy the Earth; this timeline of Lavos is destroyed. But it still exists because it existed in the First Timeline. Because Lavos absorbed Schala, it can adapt even to the Nothing Beyond Time; so casualty no longer matters to it. Kill it in as many timelines as one wants, The Devourer exists and will eventually destroy ''everything''.
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* The destroyed Future. Only a handful of what once lived still exists; Lavos orbits the Planet and continues to feed off the dying embers, while propogating its spawn. Robots have become sentient and under the Mother Brain project are becoming the new dominant life-form. Belthasar arrives via Gate to this time period and, with what ruined technology he can work with, builds a time machine.
** Lavos is dead. The future lives; the Mother Brain project is put on hold. Belthasar arrives in a future of prosperity, and is able to develop his time technology much sooner. He learns of the threat of the Devourer, and comes up with a plan that will result in innumerable deaths and differing timelines at war with each other, but it just might save all of existence. [[ChronoCross But that is another tale.]]
** Lavos is dead. The future lives; the Mother Brain project is put on hold. Belthasar arrives in a future of prosperity, and is able to develop his time technology much sooner. He learns of the threat of the Devourer, and comes up with a plan that will result in innumerable deaths and differing timelines at war with each other, but it just might save all of existence. [[ChronoCross But that is another tale.]]
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* The destroyed Future. Only a handful of what once lived still exists; Lavos orbits the Planet and continues to feed off the dying embers, while propogating its spawn. Robots have become sentient and under the Mother Brain project are becoming the new dominant life-form. Belthasar arrives via Gate to this time period and, with what ruined technology he can work with, builds a time machine.
machine.
** Lavos isdead. The dead; in one of the endings Robo is shown in the future lives; Leene Square running into his girlfriend Atropos. Happy Endings all around.
'''End of Time'''
*Gaspar from theMother Brain project is put on hold. Belthasar original timeline arrives in a future of prosperity, here and is able to develop his time technology much sooner. He learns of eventually becomes the threat of the Devourer, and comes up with a plan that will result in innumerable deaths and differing timelines at war with each other, but it just might save all of existence. [[ChronoCross But that is Old Man. Also, Spekkio gets here one way or another tale.]]
and sets up shop teaching strong time travelers to use magic.
** Lavos is
'''End of Time'''
*Gaspar from the
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The numerous fan sequels that received a Cease & Desist from SquareEnix, such as ''CrimsonEchoes''.
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The numerous fan sequels that received a Cease & Desist from SquareEnix, such as ''CrimsonEchoes''.''FanFic/CrimsonEchoes''.
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* NoExportForYou: Up until the DS version, the game was never released in Europe. There's also the prototype version of ''ChronoCross'' called ''Radical Dreamers''.
* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The numerous fan sequels that received a Cease & Desist from SquareEnix, such as ''CrimsonEchoes''.
* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The numerous fan sequels that received a Cease & Desist from SquareEnix, such as ''CrimsonEchoes''.
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* The Reptites are winning against the hairless apes known as humans. Whether or not Ayla survives the individual battle with Azala; however; the Reptites are killed off by Lavos landing on their capital before digging into the Earth and ushering in the next ice age. The Reptites cannot adapt to the environmental damage and die off; humanity ekes out a survival the next several million years.
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* The Reptites are winning against the hairless apes known as humans. Whether or not Ayla survives the individual battle with Azala; however; Azala, however, the Reptites are killed off by Lavos landing on their capital before digging into the Earth and ushering in the next ice age. The Reptites cannot adapt to the environmental damage and die off; humanity ekes out a survival the next several million years.
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* Humanity survives the cold, and some actually discover how to tap into the energy that Lavos gives off; this becomes "magic." The [[{{Utopia}} Kingdom of Zeal]] is formed, with magic-users living lives of luxury in {{Floating Continent}}s above the ground, while the magic-less are slaves to serve in caves in the bitter cold below. The Queen of this country has her Three Gurus fashion a device that will better tap the source of their power deep underground, the Mammon Machine. When it is completed, she becomes DrunkOnTheDarkSide and becomes a despot. The Gurus also develop other equipment from the Mammon Machine; a Pendant that can affect time and space as well as a Sword that can drain such power; however these are fused with dream spirits to prevent the same effect the Mammon Machine has. The Gurus and Queen Zeal's children; Schala and Janus; try to stop Queen Zeal, but she activates the Mammon Machine. Lavos twitches in its sleep, and the resulting space-time writhing sends Melchior to 1000, Belthasar to 2300, and Gaspar to the End of Time. Janus is sent to just before 600. The Underwater Palace stays underwater. Presumably Queen Zeal dies. Schala, the Mammon Machine, and Lavos interact in such a way that this event is etched into Space/Time. '''Even if this timeline were to change or be destroyed, this synergetic reaction would continue to exist, even in the [[PlaceBeyondTime Nothing Beyond Time.]]''' (This is important. It is this first timeline, this first temporal incursion, that results in the Devourer in ''ChronoCross.'')
** Crono and company interfere with events; but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos and Crono dies against the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Underwater Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is sent into a reversed Summoning Gate to Porre in the year 1000+. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead. Even though things are "changed", though, Schala and Lavos fusing with the Mammon Machine still "happens" in No Time. While the physical existance of Lavos continues its threat to this timeline, the Devourer borne of Schala/Lavos will threaten all of Existence "later."
** Crono and company interfere with events; but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos and Crono dies against the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Underwater Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is sent into a reversed Summoning Gate to Porre in the year 1000+. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead. Even though things are "changed", though, Schala and Lavos fusing with the Mammon Machine still "happens" in No Time. While the physical existance of Lavos continues its threat to this timeline, the Devourer borne of Schala/Lavos will threaten all of Existence "later."
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* Humanity survives the cold, and some actually discover how to tap into the energy that Lavos gives off; this becomes "magic." The [[{{Utopia}} Kingdom of Zeal]] is formed, with magic-users living lives of luxury in {{Floating Continent}}s above the ground, while the magic-less are slaves to serve in caves in the bitter cold below. The Queen of this country has her Three Gurus fashion a device that will better tap the source of their power deep underground, the Mammon Machine. When it is completed, she becomes DrunkOnTheDarkSide and becomes a despot. The Gurus also develop other equipment from the Mammon Machine; Machine: a Pendant that can affect time and space as well as a Sword that can drain such power; however these are fused with dream spirits to prevent the same effect the Mammon Machine has. The Gurus and Queen Zeal's children; children, Schala and Janus; Janus, try to stop Queen Zeal, but she activates the Mammon Machine. Lavos twitches in its sleep, and the resulting space-time writhing sends Melchior to 1000, Belthasar to 2300, and Gaspar to the End of Time. Janus is sent to just before 600. The Underwater Palace stays underwater. Presumably Queen Zeal dies. Schala, the Mammon Machine, and Lavos interact in such a way that this event is etched into Space/Time. '''Even if this timeline were to change or be destroyed, this synergetic reaction would continue to exist, even in the [[PlaceBeyondTime Nothing Beyond Time.]]''' (This is important. It is this first timeline, this first temporal incursion, that results in the Devourer in ''ChronoCross.'')
** Crono and company interfere withevents; events, but Janus/Magus has already come back in time ahead of them and is expecting them. In an attempt to stop the first catastrophe from happening, he orders the Gurus imprisoned and attempts to maneuver the Queen so that he can attack Lavos when it comes forth. He fails at stopping Lavos and Crono dies against the EldritchAbomination as well. Queen Zeal survives and raises the Underwater Palace to become the Black Omen. Dalton is sent into a reversed Summoning Gate to Porre in the year 1000+. Melchior survives and stays to help rebuild society with the non-Magic Users. (At this point, there are two Melchiors. The "first" Melchior was sent to 1000 during the first timeline.) The other two Gurus of this timeline are likely dead (although their first timeline selves are still in 2300 and the End of Time) and Schala's fate is unknown; she is probably dead. Even though things are "changed", though, Schala and Lavos fusing with the Mammon Machine still "happens" in No Time. While the physical existance of Lavos continues its threat to this timeline, the Devourer borne of Schala/Lavos will threaten all of Existence "later."
** Crono and company interfere with
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* Janus from the original timeline gets sent here. Janus is found by the Fiend Ozzy. Ozzy raises Janus to become the scourge of humanity and Janus goes along with this in order to gain sufficient power to learn how to summon and kill Lavos. Janus, now called Magus rises to lead the Fiends against humanity; and kill Hero Cyrus and curses Glenn into becoming Frog; also destroying the Masamune which had a negative effect on his own Lavos-related powers. Right before the Fiends are about to win; Magus attempts to summon Lavos. All that is known is that he didn't succeed and Magus vanishes from history.
** Crono and company beat back the Fiends and interrupt Magus's summoning ritual. Lavos twitches and Crono and company are sent to 65,000,000 and Magus is sent to Antiquity. At this point, there are two Magus's. One becomes the Prophet and is either killed by Crono's party or joins them; while the "original" vanished. (In the new DS content, a Magus separate from the one the party encounters gets sent to the Darkness Beyond Time and gets mindwiped by Schala; presumably to become [[ChronoCross Guile]]. Whether this is that Magus or an entirely different timeline one isn't known.)
** Crono and company beat back the Fiends and interrupt Magus's summoning ritual. Lavos twitches and Crono and company are sent to 65,000,000 and Magus is sent to Antiquity. At this point, there are two Magus's. One becomes the Prophet and is either killed by Crono's party or joins them; while the "original" vanished. (In the new DS content, a Magus separate from the one the party encounters gets sent to the Darkness Beyond Time and gets mindwiped by Schala; presumably to become [[ChronoCross Guile]]. Whether this is that Magus or an entirely different timeline one isn't known.)
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* Janus from the original timeline gets sent here. Janus is found by the Fiend Ozzy. Ozzy raises Janus to become the scourge of humanity and Janus goes along with this in order to gain sufficient power to learn how to summon and kill Lavos. Janus, now called Magus Magus, rises to lead the Fiends against humanity; and humanity, kill Hero Cyrus and curses curse Glenn into becoming Frog; Frog, also destroying the Masamune which had a negative effect on his own Lavos-related powers. Right before the Fiends are about to win; win, Magus attempts to summon Lavos. All that is known is that he didn't succeed and Magus vanishes from history.
** Crono and company beat back the Fiends and interrupt Magus's summoning ritual. Lavostwitches and twitches, Crono and company are sent to 65,000,000 B.C., and Magus is sent to Antiquity. At this point, there are two Magus's. Maguses. One becomes the Prophet and is either killed by Crono's party or joins them; them, while the "original" vanished. (In the new DS content, a Magus separate from the one the party encounters gets sent to the Darkness Beyond Time and gets mindwiped by Schala; Schala, presumably to become [[ChronoCross Guile]]. Whether this is that Magus or an entirely different timeline one isn't known.)
** Crono and company beat back the Fiends and interrupt Magus's summoning ritual. Lavos
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* Crono's time. Guardia is the primary superpower on the continent due to Porre to the south being too poor in resources due to the desert and its mayor being too miserly to care about development the rest of the country. The relationship between Guardia's king and princess are strained, but this means little in the long term of things. The Pendant of Dreamstone has been passed down throughout the Guardia family since Antiquity. Melchior from the original timeline gets sent here. Melchior sets up trade as a weapon merchant, eventually repairs the broken Masamune.
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* Crono's time. Guardia is the primary superpower on the continent due to Porre to the south being too poor in resources due to the desert and its mayor being too miserly to care about development the rest of the country. The relationship between Guardia's king and princess are strained, but this means little in the long term of things. The Pendant of Dreamstone has been passed down throughout the Guardia family since Antiquity. Melchior from the original timeline gets sent here. Melchior here, where he sets up trade as a weapon merchant, and eventually repairs the broken Masamune.
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** Lavos does ''not'' destroy the Earth; this timeline of Lavos is destroyed. But it still exists because it existed in the First Timeline. Because Lavos absorbed Schala, it can adapt to even the Nothing Beyond Time; so causality no longer matters to it. Kill it in as many timelines as one wants, The Devourer exists and will eventually destroy ''everything''.
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** Lavos does ''not'' destroy the Earth; this timeline of Lavos is destroyed. But it still exists because it existed in the First Timeline. Because Lavos absorbed Schala, it can adapt to even to the Nothing Beyond Time; so causality casualty no longer matters to it. Kill it in as many timelines as one wants, The Devourer exists and will eventually destroy ''everything''.
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* The destroyed Future. Only a handful of what once lived still exists, Lavos orbits the Planet and continues to feed off the dying embers, while propogating its spawn. Robots have become sentient and under the Mother Brain project; are becoming the new dominant life form. Belthasar arrives via Gate to this time period, and with what ruined technology he can work with; builds a time machine.
** Lavos is dead. The future lives; the Mother Brain project is put on hold. Belthasar arrives in a future of prosperity, and is able to develop his time technology much sooner. He learns of the threat of the Devourer; and comes up with a plan that will result in innumerable deaths and differing timelines at war with each other; but it just might save all of existence. [[ChronoCross But that is another tale.]]
** Lavos is dead. The future lives; the Mother Brain project is put on hold. Belthasar arrives in a future of prosperity, and is able to develop his time technology much sooner. He learns of the threat of the Devourer; and comes up with a plan that will result in innumerable deaths and differing timelines at war with each other; but it just might save all of existence. [[ChronoCross But that is another tale.]]
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* The destroyed Future. Only a handful of what once lived still exists, exists; Lavos orbits the Planet and continues to feed off the dying embers, while propogating its spawn. Robots have become sentient and under the Mother Brain project; project are becoming the new dominant life form. life-form. Belthasar arrives via Gate to this time period, and period and, with what ruined technology he can work with; with, builds a time machine.
** Lavos is dead. The future lives; the Mother Brain project is put on hold. Belthasar arrives in a future of prosperity, and is able to develop his time technology much sooner. He learns of the threat of theDevourer; Devourer, and comes up with a plan that will result in innumerable deaths and differing timelines at war with each other; other, but it just might save all of existence. [[ChronoCross But that is another tale.]]
** Lavos is dead. The future lives; the Mother Brain project is put on hold. Belthasar arrives in a future of prosperity, and is able to develop his time technology much sooner. He learns of the threat of the
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* Humanity survives the cold, and some actually discover how to tap into the energy that Lavos gives off; this becomes "magic." The [[{{Utopia}} Kingdom of Zeal]] is formed, with magic-users living lives of luxury in {{Floating Continent}}s above the ground, while the magic-less are slaves to serve in caves in the bitter cold below. The Queen of this country has her Three Gurus fashion a device that will better tap the source of their power deep underground, the Mammon Machine. When it is completed, she becomes DrunkOnTheDarkSide and becomes a despot. The Gurus also develop other equipment from the Mammon Machine; a Pendant that can affect time and space as well as a Sword that can drain such power; however these are fused with dream spirits to prevent the same effect the Mammon Machine has. The Gurus and Queen Zeal's children; Schala and Janus; try to stop Queen Zeal, but she activates the Mammon Machine. Lavos twitches in its sleep, and the resulting space-time writhing sends Melchior to 1000, Belthasar to 2300, and Gaspar to the End of Time. Janus is sent to just before 600. The Underwater Palace stays underwater. Presumably Queen Zeal dies. Schala, the Mammon Machine, and Lavos interact in such a way that this event is etched into Space/Time. '''Even if this timeline were to change or be destroyed; this synergetic reaction would continue to exist; even in the [[PlaceBeyondTime Nothing Beyond Time.]]''' (This is important. It is this first timeline; this first temporal incursion, that results in the Devourer in ''ChronoCross.'')
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* Humanity survives the cold, and some actually discover how to tap into the energy that Lavos gives off; this becomes "magic." The [[{{Utopia}} Kingdom of Zeal]] is formed, with magic-users living lives of luxury in {{Floating Continent}}s above the ground, while the magic-less are slaves to serve in caves in the bitter cold below. The Queen of this country has her Three Gurus fashion a device that will better tap the source of their power deep underground, the Mammon Machine. When it is completed, she becomes DrunkOnTheDarkSide and becomes a despot. The Gurus also develop other equipment from the Mammon Machine; a Pendant that can affect time and space as well as a Sword that can drain such power; however these are fused with dream spirits to prevent the same effect the Mammon Machine has. The Gurus and Queen Zeal's children; Schala and Janus; try to stop Queen Zeal, but she activates the Mammon Machine. Lavos twitches in its sleep, and the resulting space-time writhing sends Melchior to 1000, Belthasar to 2300, and Gaspar to the End of Time. Janus is sent to just before 600. The Underwater Palace stays underwater. Presumably Queen Zeal dies. Schala, the Mammon Machine, and Lavos interact in such a way that this event is etched into Space/Time. '''Even if this timeline were to change or be destroyed; destroyed, this synergetic reaction would continue to exist; exist, even in the [[PlaceBeyondTime Nothing Beyond Time.]]''' (This is important. It is this first timeline; timeline, this first temporal incursion, that results in the Devourer in ''ChronoCross.'')
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Removed some bad information. Dreamstone is naturally occuring, it's just a CONDUCTOR for Lavos's extreme power. The Frozen Flame was the shard of Lavos, not dreamstone. Ironically, the Frozen Flame WAS Dreamstone in Radical Dreamers, but in this case, the Frozen Flame isn't the shard of Lavos. (The shard of Lavos in Chrono Trigger is just an "icky rock" a caveman mentions offhandedly.)
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* Shards of Lavos called the "Dreamstone" land on the Planet before he does. This material can be imbued with both positive and negative abilities, but it is not native to Earth. The Reptites are winning against the hairless apes known as humans. Whether or not Ayla survives the individual battle with Azala; however; the Reptites are killed off by Lavos landing on their capital before digging into the Earth and ushering in the next ice age. The Reptites cannot adapt to the environmental damage and die off; humanity ekes out a survival the next several million years.
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* Shards of Lavos called the "Dreamstone" land on the Planet before he does. This material can be imbued with both positive and negative abilities, but it is not native to Earth. The Reptites are winning against the hairless apes known as humans. Whether or not Ayla survives the individual battle with Azala; however; the Reptites are killed off by Lavos landing on their capital before digging into the Earth and ushering in the next ice age. The Reptites cannot adapt to the environmental damage and die off; humanity ekes out a survival the next several million years.