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* RefittedforSequel: Inverted, the idea of having the protagonist's [[CainandAbel biological older sibling becoming the main antagonist who opposes the protagonist for most of the movie]] and portrayed in a sympathetic manner was almost visited again during the development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013''.

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* RefittedforSequel: Inverted, the idea of having the protagonist's [[CainandAbel biological older sibling becoming the main antagonist who opposes the protagonist for most of the movie]] and portrayed in a sympathetic manner was almost visited again during the development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013''.''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' until the song "Let it Go", originally intended to be a VillainSong, was written.
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* RefittedforSequel: Inverted, the idea of having the protagonist's [[CainandAbel biological older sibling becoming the main antagonist who opposes the protagonist for most of the movie]] was almost visited again during the development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013''.

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* RefittedforSequel: Inverted, the idea of having the protagonist's [[CainandAbel biological older sibling becoming the main antagonist who opposes the protagonist for most of the movie]] and portrayed in a sympathetic manner was almost visited again during the development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013''.
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* RefittedforSequel: Inverted, the idea of having the protagonist's [[CainandAbel biological older sibling becoming the main antagonist who opposes the protagonist for most of the movie]] was almost visited again during the development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013''.
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* CreatorsFavoriteEpisode: [[https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10159205593951503&set=a.51926481502 Co-writer Tab Murphy is proud of the finished film, claming that he loved working on the story and the people behind the movie, and not caring what the critics said for giving a negative reception.]]
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* KidsMealToy: UsefulNotes/McDonalds had different Happy Meal tie-ins depending on the region;
** The US got action figures, including toys of the three brothers (Kenai, Denahi, and Sitka) that could transform from spirit animal to human.
** In Non-US markets, plushies were sold instead of figures.
** In Australia, the aforementioned transforming toys from the USA set were included alongside the European plushies of Koda and the Moose brothers.
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* SwanSong: This sadly was the first and only film credit for Jason Raize, best known for being the original adult Simba on Broadway. He hanged himself a year after the film was released after suffering from health problems.

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* SwanSong: This sadly was the first and only film credit for Jason Raize, best known for being the original adult Simba on Broadway. He hanged himself a year three months after the film was released after suffering from health problems.
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** The character Koda was originally written as an older, [[WesternAnimation/TheJungleBook1967 Baloo]]-esque Grizzly Bear named Griz ([[WesternAnimation/WeBareBears Yes, that's pretty]] HilariousInHindsight), who would have served as a big brother figure to Kenai. Creator/MichaelClarkeDuncan was cast, and even recorded some lines before the writers, having realised that Kenai was already the youngest brother with his real family, felt that Kenai himself had to learn to be an older brother. They were still so impressed with Duncan's performance that they wrote the character of Tug for him to play.

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** The character Koda was originally written as an older, [[WesternAnimation/TheJungleBook1967 Baloo]]-esque Grizzly Bear named Griz ([[WesternAnimation/WeBareBears Yes, that's pretty]] HilariousInHindsight), Griz, who would have served as a big brother figure to Kenai. Creator/MichaelClarkeDuncan was cast, and even recorded some lines before the writers, having realised that Kenai was already the youngest brother with his real family, felt that Kenai himself had to learn to be an older brother. They were still so impressed with Duncan's performance that they wrote the character of Tug for him to play.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Co-director Aaron Blaise loved Cas van de Pol's parody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHC520wVBeo&ab_channel=CasvandePol "The Ultimate Brother Bear Recap"]].

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* ApprovalOfGod: Co-director Aaron Blaise loved Cas van de Pol's WebAnimation/CasVanDePol's parody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHC520wVBeo&ab_channel=CasvandePol "The Ultimate Brother Bear Recap"]].
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The Mulan and Lilo and Stitch mentions are irrelevant to the entry. Besides, it had a budget of $46 million and made back $250 million, more than five times its budget. I also removed the last part for not being relevant to the example. Also, a comment when I asked is this an example: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100&page=898#comment-22428


* CreatorKiller: Unlike ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', ''Brother Bear'' ended up being a critical disappointment for Walt Disney Feature Animation's Florida studio at [[Ride/WaltDisneyWorld Disney-MGM Studios]] (today Disney's Hollywood Studios). The Floridian studio was shut down a few months after the movie's release as Disney began to turn to computer-animated films. It would also prove to be Disney's last commercially successful traditional animated film prior to their decision to switch to CGI animation for future films as the [[WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange next one]] would prove to be their last traditionally animated film until [[WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog five years later]].

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* CreatorKiller: Unlike ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', ''Brother Bear'' ended up being a critical disappointment for Walt Disney Feature Animation's Florida studio at [[Ride/WaltDisneyWorld Disney-MGM Studios]] (today Disney's Hollywood Studios). The Floridian studio was shut down a few months after the movie's release as Disney began to turn to computer-animated films. It would also prove to be Disney's last commercially successful traditional animated film prior to their decision to switch to CGI animation for future films as the [[WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange next one]] would prove to be their last traditionally animated film until [[WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog five years later]].
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* CreatorKiller: Unlike ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', ''Brother Bear'' ended up being a critical disappointment for Walt Disney Feature Animation's Florida studio at [[Ride/WaltDisneyWorld Disney-MGM Studios]] (today Disney's Hollywood Studios). The Floridian studio was shut down a few months after the movie's release as Disney began to turn to computer-animated films. It would also prove to be Disney's last commercially successful traditional animated film prior to their decision to switch to CGI animation for future films as the [[WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange next one]] would prove to be their last traditonal animated film until [[WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog five years later]].

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* CreatorKiller: Unlike ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', ''Brother Bear'' ended up being a critical disappointment for Walt Disney Feature Animation's Florida studio at [[Ride/WaltDisneyWorld Disney-MGM Studios]] (today Disney's Hollywood Studios). The Floridian studio was shut down a few months after the movie's release as Disney began to turn to computer-animated films. It would also prove to be Disney's last commercially successful traditional animated film prior to their decision to switch to CGI animation for future films as the [[WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange next one]] would prove to be their last traditonal traditionally animated film until [[WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog five years later]].
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* DVDCommentary: Not by the filmmakers but by [[ThoseTwoGuys Rutt and Tuke]] as AnimatedActors, which earns some funny moments during the movie, like one of them asking for a pizza. Not only that, but the two moose also share some nonsensical conversations, like at one point when [[spoiler:Kenai turns back into a human]] and they start talking about moose turning into lions in ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994''.

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* DVDCommentary: Not by the filmmakers but by [[ThoseTwoGuys Rutt and Tuke]] as AnimatedActors, which earns some funny moments during the movie, like one of them asking for a pizza. Not only that, but the two moose also share some nonsensical conversations, like at one point when [[spoiler:Kenai turns back into a human]] and they start talking about moose turning into lions in ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994''.''WesternAnimation/{{The Lion King|1994}}''.



* ReleaseDateChange: The film was originally slated for a spring 2004 release; it was moved to the fall of 2003 so it could be promoted on the Platinum Edition re-release of [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing another animal-based Disney film]].

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* ReleaseDateChange: The film was originally slated for a spring 2004 release; it was moved to the fall of 2003 so it could be promoted on the Platinum Edition re-release of [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 another animal-based Disney film]].

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* HarpoDoesSomethingFunny: Creator/RickMoranis and Creator/DaveThomas were given free rein to improvise, which is appropriate since the characters they were playing were riffs on [[Series/{{SCTV}} Bob & Doug McKenzie]], whose sketches were ''also'' heavily improvised.




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* VoicesInOneRoom: Technically they weren't in the same ''room'', but Creator/RickMoranis and Creator/DaveThomas recorded all their lines together via audio hook-up, allowing them to freely improvise and riff off each other.
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Misuse and YMMV


* IKnewIt: [[spoiler:Once Koda explains that he's been separated from his mother, many people saw the revelation of his mother being the bear Kenai killed coming.]]
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* CreatorKiller: Unlike ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', ''Brother Bear'' ended up being a critical disappointment for Walt Disney Feature Animation's Florida studio at [[Ride/WaltDisneyWorld Disney-MGM Studios]] (today Disney's Hollywood Studios). The Floridian studio was shut down a few months after the movie's release as Disney began to turn to computer-animated films. It would also prove to be Disney's last commercially successful traditional animated film prior to their decision to switch to CGI animation for future films as the [[WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange next one]] would prove to be their last traditonal animated film until [[WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog seven years later]].

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* CreatorKiller: Unlike ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', ''Brother Bear'' ended up being a critical disappointment for Walt Disney Feature Animation's Florida studio at [[Ride/WaltDisneyWorld Disney-MGM Studios]] (today Disney's Hollywood Studios). The Floridian studio was shut down a few months after the movie's release as Disney began to turn to computer-animated films. It would also prove to be Disney's last commercially successful traditional animated film prior to their decision to switch to CGI animation for future films as the [[WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange next one]] would prove to be their last traditonal animated film until [[WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog seven five years later]].
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No longer Trivia. See the X Source Cleanup thread.


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** InAnotherMansShoes.
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* SwanSong: This sadly was the first and only film credit for Jason Raize, best known for being the original adult Simba on Broadway. He hung himself a year after the film was released after suffering from health problems.

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* SwanSong: This sadly was the first and only film credit for Jason Raize, best known for being the original adult Simba on Broadway. He hung hanged himself a year after the film was released after suffering from health problems.
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* ReferencedBy: In ''Literature/TheresMoreThanOneWayHome'', Anna remembers seeing ''Brother Bear'' with Jack.
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* CastTheExpert: Disney went to Angayuqaq Oscar Kawagley for advice on the Inuit language. They liked the way he spoke Inukituk so much, they created a narrator role for him.

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* CastTheExpert: Disney went to Angayuqaq Oscar Kawagley for advice on the Inuit language. They liked the way he spoke Inukituk Inuktitut so much, they created a narrator role for him.
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* ReleaseDateChange: The film was originally slated for a spring 2004 release; it was moved to the fall of 2003 so it could be promoted on the Platinum Edition re-release of [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing another animal-based Disney film]].
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** There were [[http://animatedviews.com/2013/o-brother-bear-where-art-thou-why-disney-channel-turned-down-brother-bear-the-series/ plans for a Brother Bear cartoon series]] that took place between the first and second film that never got off the ground.

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** There were [[http://animatedviews.com/2013/o-brother-bear-where-art-thou-why-disney-channel-turned-down-brother-bear-the-series/ plans for a Brother Bear cartoon spin-off TV series]] that took place between the first and second film that film, but it never got off the ground.
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Moved to the YMMV page.


* SpecialEffectsFailure: During the scene where Kenai is coming clean to Koda, Koda's animation briefly doesn't match with the movement of the CG background, leading to the mostly still Koda awkwardly sliding across the rock he's supposed to be standing on.
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* SwanSong: This sadly was the first and only film credit for Jason Raize, best known for being the original adult Simba on Broadway. He died by suicide by hanging a year after the film was released after suffering from health problems.

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* SwanSong: This sadly was the first and only film credit for Jason Raize, best known for being the original adult Simba on Broadway. He died by suicide by hanging hung himself a year after the film was released after suffering from health problems.
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** The Japanese dub features actor and former Shonentai vocalist Noriyuki Higashiyama as Kenai.
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* CreatorKiller: Unlike ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', ''Brother Bear'' ended up being a critical disappointment for Walt Disney Feature Animation's Florida studio at [[Ride/WaltDisneyWorld Disney-MGM Studios]] (today Disney's Hollywood Studios). The Floridian studio was shut down a few months after the movie's release as Disney began to turn to computer-animated films.

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* CreatorKiller: Unlike ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', ''Brother Bear'' ended up being a critical disappointment for Walt Disney Feature Animation's Florida studio at [[Ride/WaltDisneyWorld Disney-MGM Studios]] (today Disney's Hollywood Studios). The Floridian studio was shut down a few months after the movie's release as Disney began to turn to computer-animated films. It would also prove to be Disney's last commercially successful traditional animated film prior to their decision to switch to CGI animation for future films as the [[WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange next one]] would prove to be their last traditonal animated film until [[WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog seven years later]].

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No longer the page image. Also, both of the latter were revealed by Aaron Blaise in livestreams.


** BigBrotherInstinct.



* RealitySubtext: Kenai loses his brother, kickstarting the plot. His voice actor, Creator/JoaquinPhoenix, also lost his [[Creator/RiverPhoenix brother]] at an early age.

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Kenai loses his brother, kickstarting the plot. His voice actor, Creator/JoaquinPhoenix, also lost his [[Creator/RiverPhoenix brother]] at an early age.age.
** While the film was in production, there was a heightened amount of xenophobia towards Middle Easterns caused by 9/11, which ended up having a major influence on the film's themes.




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** Creator/JustinLong auditioned for the voice of Kenai at one point.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Co-director Aaron Blaise loved Cas van de Pol's parody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHC520wVBeo&ab_channel=CasvandePol "The Ultimate Brother Bear Recap"]].
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** Originally, the story Kenai tells Koda was going to be heard in its entirety. This scene was actually fully animated, and a shot appeared in the trailer, but the writers decided it was best to let the song tell it.

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** Originally, the story Kenai tells Koda [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-seKkTsCeE was going to be heard in its entirety. entirety.]] This scene was actually fully animated, mostly animated though uncolored, and a shot appeared in the trailer, but the writers decided it was best to let the song tell it.

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