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* SequelGap: Japanese viewers had to wait nearly two years between Season 1 last episode "Other Voices, Part 2" and Season 2 first episode "Aftermath" (season 1 ended in march 1998 and the re-branded season 2 plus season 3 "Beast Wars Metals" was not aired until October 1999) leaving japanese kids with a pretty inportant unresolved cliffhanger for quite a while. (For comparison, season 1 ended in america on april 1997 and season 2 started on october of the same year).

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* CreatorsPest: Played straight, but subverted later on. The writers hated Waspinator and his speech pattern, along with being required to appear regularly, so they took every opportunity that they had to write him out of episodes by [[TheChewToy blowing him to pieces]]. After a while, when the character became a fan-favorite and the writers' opinions softened on him, they eventually ''requested Hasbro'' spare him in Season 2's ending on the basis of his popularity.

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Played straight, but subverted later on. The writers hated Waspinator and his speech pattern, along with being required to appear regularly, so they took every opportunity that they had to write him out of episodes by [[TheChewToy blowing him to pieces]]. After a while, when the character became a fan-favorite and the writers' opinions softened on him, they eventually ''requested Hasbro'' spare him in Season 2's ending on the basis of his popularity.popularity.
** Played entirely straight with Tigerhawk. [[https://youtu.be/ugEpLBkQToE?feature=shared&t=103 According to Bob Forward at TFCon]], Tigerhawk's existence was a result of ExecutiveMeddling on the part of Hasbro considering making a toy for him, [[MerchandiseDriven and wanting the show to promote him]], and the writing staff didn't care for him at all. Since the show already wouldn't be getting its fourth season, the plans the staff had for the Vok MythArc, including Tigatron and Airazor, had to be scrapped in favor of making Tigerhawk into a combination of them, putting him in the show at the tail end... only for Hasbro to [[SerendipityWritesThePlot change their mind about making a toy for him and demand he be killed off.]] Notably, when Bob Forward proceeded to write the script for the 3H comic "Primeval Dawn" using the original ideas he had for the Vok MythArc and set ''after'' Season 3, Tigatron and Airazor were brought BackFromTheDead as themselves, while Tigerhawk was all but ignored.

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** The fourth season would've had the show leave Earth and go into space to chase Megatron after he escaped in the ''Nemesis'', with the series rechristened as ''Beast Hunters''. A planned subplot would've been the Maximals questioning if they can trust Tigerhawk since he was a Vok emissary, G1 Megatron's Spark trying to take control of his descendant's body, and the Coneheads being recurring villains.


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** One for the IDW tie-in comics: following ''The Gathering'' and ''The Ascending'', writer Simon Furman had an idea for ''The Revisiting'', which would have detailed a new timeline created when the Vok prevents Megatron's theft of the Golden Disc.

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** Originally, Waspinator was going to die at the beginning of the second season alongside [[spoiler:Scorponok]], while [[spoiler:Terrorsaur]] was going to survive and become a Transmetal. However, [[PopularityPower Waspinator's popularity]] as TheChewToy saved him, with [[spoiler:Terrorsaur]] dying instead [[note]] Waspinator didn't get Terrorsaur's planned Transmetal upgrade transplanted onto him, however, as such a power boost would have reduced his effectiveness as TheChewToy [[/note]]. [[spoiler:Scorponok]] was already planned to die, however, because [[spoiler:Inferno was a more entertaining character and would serve as TheDragon to Megatron even better]], giving him little reason to remain alive [[note]] Terrorsaur had been made similarly redundant by Tarantulas serving as a far more competent [[TheStarscream treacherous Predacon]] [[/note]]. Both characters who perished did so because the costly limitations of CGI at the time (which lead to a limited character count) meant that characters needed to be removed so that new ones could be introduced and [[MerchandiseDriven promote the toyline]], among other things. This might be why Waspinator is unusually competent in Aftermath, holding his own against *Transmetal* Cheeter -- that scene was likely written for Transmetal Terrorsaur originally. Incidentally, this also lead - in part - to the meticulous plotting of [[spoiler:Dinobot's redemptive StoryArc]], so some good came out of it all by the end.

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** Originally, Waspinator was going to die at the beginning of the second season alongside [[spoiler:Scorponok]], while [[spoiler:Terrorsaur]] was going to survive and become a Transmetal. However, [[PopularityPower Waspinator's popularity]] as TheChewToy saved him, with [[spoiler:Terrorsaur]] dying instead [[note]] Waspinator didn't get Terrorsaur's planned Transmetal upgrade transplanted onto him, however, as such a power boost would have reduced his effectiveness as TheChewToy [[/note]]. [[spoiler:Scorponok]] was already planned to die, however, because [[spoiler:Inferno was a more entertaining character and would serve as TheDragon to Megatron even better]], giving him little reason to remain alive [[note]] Terrorsaur had been made similarly redundant by Tarantulas serving as a far more competent [[TheStarscream treacherous Predacon]] [[/note]]. Both characters who perished did so because the costly limitations of CGI at the time (which lead to a limited character count) meant that characters needed to be removed so that new ones could be introduced and [[MerchandiseDriven promote the toyline]], among other things. This might be why Waspinator is unusually competent in Aftermath, holding his own against *Transmetal* ''Transmetal'' Cheeter during their confrontation -- that scene was likely written for Transmetal Terrorsaur originally. Incidentally, this also lead - in part - to the meticulous plotting of [[spoiler:Dinobot's redemptive StoryArc]], so some good came out of it all by the end.

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** Originally, Waspinator was going to die at the beginning of the second season alongside [[spoiler:Scorponok]], while [[spoiler:Terrorsaur]] was going to survive and become a Transmetal. However, [[PopularityPower Waspinator's popularity]] as TheChewToy saved him, with [[spoiler:Terrorsaur]] dying instead [[note]] Waspinator didn't get Terrorsaur's planned Transmetal upgrade transplanted onto him, however, as such a power boost would have reduced his effectiveness as TheChewToy [[/note]]. [[spoiler:Scorponok]] was already planned to die, however, because [[spoiler:Inferno was a more entertaining character and would serve as TheDragon to Megatron even better]], giving him little reason to remain alive [[note]] Terrorsaur had been made similarly redundant by Tarantulas serving as a far more competent [[TheStarscream treacherous Predacon]] [[/note]]. Both characters who perished did so because the costly limitations of CGI at the time (which lead to a limited character count) meant that characters needed to be removed so that new ones could be introduced and [[MerchandiseDriven promote the toyline]], among other things. Incidentally, this also lead - in part - to the meticulous plotting of [[spoiler:Dinobot's redemptive StoryArc]], so some good came out of it all by the end.

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** Originally, Waspinator was going to die at the beginning of the second season alongside [[spoiler:Scorponok]], while [[spoiler:Terrorsaur]] was going to survive and become a Transmetal. However, [[PopularityPower Waspinator's popularity]] as TheChewToy saved him, with [[spoiler:Terrorsaur]] dying instead [[note]] Waspinator didn't get Terrorsaur's planned Transmetal upgrade transplanted onto him, however, as such a power boost would have reduced his effectiveness as TheChewToy [[/note]]. [[spoiler:Scorponok]] was already planned to die, however, because [[spoiler:Inferno was a more entertaining character and would serve as TheDragon to Megatron even better]], giving him little reason to remain alive [[note]] Terrorsaur had been made similarly redundant by Tarantulas serving as a far more competent [[TheStarscream treacherous Predacon]] [[/note]]. Both characters who perished did so because the costly limitations of CGI at the time (which lead to a limited character count) meant that characters needed to be removed so that new ones could be introduced and [[MerchandiseDriven promote the toyline]], among other things. This might be why Waspinator is unusually competent in Aftermath, holding his own against *Transmetal* Cheeter -- that scene was likely written for Transmetal Terrorsaur originally. Incidentally, this also lead - in part - to the meticulous plotting of [[spoiler:Dinobot's redemptive StoryArc]], so some good came out of it all by the end.
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Just because their "father" wants to eat Cybertron doesn't neccesarily mean they agree with his plans.


** Similarly, Megatron refers to Tarantulas as "Unicron's Spawn" in "Nemesis Part 1." Bob Forward had intended it as a generic insult, the Cybertronian version of human insults centered around someone's parentage [[note]] i.e. "bastard" or "son of a bitch" [[/note]], but since the series' offered no other explanation for Tarantulas' nebulous origins, many fans took the remark literally. The comic "Primeval Dawn" ran with this and depicted Tarantulas as a creation of Unicron (never mind the fact that Unicron wants to eat Cybertron whereas Tarantulas and the Tripredacus Council want to ''rule'' Cybertron.

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** Similarly, Megatron refers to Tarantulas as "Unicron's Spawn" in "Nemesis Part 1." Bob Forward had intended it as a generic insult, the Cybertronian version of human insults centered around someone's parentage [[note]] i.e. "bastard" or "son of a bitch" [[/note]], but since the series' offered no other explanation for Tarantulas' nebulous origins, many fans took the remark literally. The comic "Primeval Dawn" ran with this and depicted Tarantulas as a creation of Unicron (never mind the fact that (although Unicron wants to eat Cybertron whereas Tarantulas and the Tripredacus Council want to ''rule'' Cybertron.Cybertron- but they could be AntagonisticOffspring).

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** Similarly, Megatron refers to Tarantulas as "Unicron's Spawn" in "Nemesis Part 1." Bob Forward had intended it as a generic insult, the Cybertronian version of human insults centered around someone's parentage [[note]] i.e. "bastard" or "son of a bitch" [[/note]], but since the series' offered no other explanation for Tarantulas' nebulous origins, many fans took the remark literally. The comic "Primeval Dawn" ran with this and depicted Tarantulas as a creation of Unicron.

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** Similarly, Megatron refers to Tarantulas as "Unicron's Spawn" in "Nemesis Part 1." Bob Forward had intended it as a generic insult, the Cybertronian version of human insults centered around someone's parentage [[note]] i.e. "bastard" or "son of a bitch" [[/note]], but since the series' offered no other explanation for Tarantulas' nebulous origins, many fans took the remark literally. The comic "Primeval Dawn" ran with this and depicted Tarantulas as a creation of Unicron.Unicron (never mind the fact that Unicron wants to eat Cybertron whereas Tarantulas and the Tripredacus Council want to ''rule'' Cybertron.



* CreatorBacklash: Hirofumi Ichikawa described Yoshikazu Iwanami's take on the Japanese dub, which he considers it as a {{Macekre}} that removes the sci-fi seriousness in the original English version.

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* CreatorBacklash: Hirofumi Ichikawa described Yoshikazu Iwanami's take on the Japanese dub, which he considers it as a {{Macekre}} that removes the sci-fi seriousness in the original English version. As such, his version of Optimus Primal and Blackarachnia in ''Alternity'' are from a version of the U.S. version instead of the Japanese version.


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** In "Master Blaster", David Sobolov replaces Casey Kasem as Teletraan One.
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* HeAlsoDid: Yoshikazu Iwanami is a rather polarizing figure in both the ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' franchise and in the Anime industry in general. This is largely due to his reputation for turning productions into {{Gag Dub}}s, which not only includes later entries like ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', but his dub work for ''WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries'' and films such as ''Film/ThePerfectStorm'', ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse'' and ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. He is also well known (and derided) as sound effects designer for plenty of notable anime titles including ''Anime/Berserk2016'', ''Anime/KillLaKill'', most of Creator/PolygonPictures' library and the entire anime runs of ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' and ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer''; along with both ''Anime/TransformersArmada'' and ''Anime/TransformersEnergon''.

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* HeAlsoDid: Yoshikazu Iwanami is a rather polarizing figure in both the ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' franchise and in the Anime industry in general. This is largely due to his reputation for turning productions into {{Gag Dub}}s, which not only includes later entries like ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', but his dub work for ''WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries'' and films such as ''Film/ThePerfectStorm'', ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse'' and ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. He is also well known (and derided) as sound effects designer for plenty of notable anime titles including ''Anime/Berserk2016'', ''Anime/KillLaKill'', most of Creator/PolygonPictures' library and the entire anime runs of ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', ''Literature/SwordArtOnline'', ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' and ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer''; along with both ''Anime/TransformersArmada'' and ''Anime/TransformersEnergon''.
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* FakeAmerican: Quickstrike has a very obvious "Southwestern" styled accent, fitting in with his {{Cowboy}} personality.

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* FakeAmerican: Quickstrike has a very obvious "Southwestern" styled accent, fitting in with his {{Cowboy}} {{cowboy}} personality.



*** The second, called "Bitch Wars" (which was ''hopefully'' just a working title), would have had Airazor and Blackarachnia leaving their factions, then teaming up and [[StartMyOwn start their own all-female faction]]. It was not made because the writers had no idea how to deal with the concept realistically.

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*** The second, called "Bitch Wars" (which was ''hopefully'' just a working title), would have had Airazor and Blackarachnia leaving their respective factions, then teaming up and [[StartMyOwn start starting their own all-female faction]]. It was not made because the writers had no idea how to deal with the concept realistically.
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* RealitySubtext: Roughly a year before the episode ''[[LastStand Code of Hero]]'' aired, Dinobot's toy had been discontinued. With no Transmetal upgrade in sight, Dinobot was written out of the show in spectacular fashion. Megatron's final taunt to him even alludes to this.
--->'''Megatron:''' Oh, please! Face it, Dinobot! You're old technology, obsolete. What could ''you'' possibly do?
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* RelationshipVoiceActor: Creator/DavidKaye is a fearsome badass, while Don Brown is his somewhat more comedic second-in-command - not only here, but in ''Anime/InuYasha''.
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** Speaking of Megatron and Creator/GaryChalk, he originally auditioned for ''this'' show's version of Megatron. The role went to Creator/DavidKaye, however, and Chalk ended up voicing Optimus Primal instead.

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** Speaking of Megatron and Creator/GaryChalk, he originally auditioned for ''this'' show's version of Megatron. The role went to Creator/DavidKaye, however, and Chalk ended up voicing Optimus Primal and the original Megatron instead.
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* NamesTheSame: ''Beast Wars'' reused a few names from the previous year's ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeExtreme'', which was also designed by Kenner. The recycled names are Inferno, Rampage, and Quickstrike (spelled "[[XtremeKoolLetterz Quick Stryke]]" in ''Extreme'').
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** The reason why there are so few characters [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters compared to G1]] is because CGI was quite expensive when it was created (the first season alone cost an estimated $18 million to produce), forcing the creators to limit the number of characters on each side. This even led to several characters being bumped off to keep costs down (most prominently, season 2 started with Terrorsaur, Scorponok, Tigatron, and Airazor being written out to make room for Silverbolt, Quickstrike, and the Transmetal upgrades, as well as the close proximity of Rampage's introduction and Dinobot's death). Of course, fewer characters meant a stronger focus on the characterization of the existing characters, so it wasn't all bad.

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** The reason why there are so few characters [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters compared to G1]] G1 is because CGI was quite expensive when it was created (the first season alone cost an estimated $18 million to produce), forcing the creators to limit the number of characters on each side. This even led to several characters being bumped off to keep costs down (most prominently, season 2 started with Terrorsaur, Scorponok, Tigatron, and Airazor being written out to make room for Silverbolt, Quickstrike, and the Transmetal upgrades, as well as the close proximity of Rampage's introduction and Dinobot's death). Of course, fewer characters meant a stronger focus on the characterization of the existing characters, so it wasn't all bad.
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* AscendedFanNickname: Megatron is named "Megs" a handful of times, Megs being a common shorthand for his (and eventually all the other Megatrons') name.
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** A few of the voices would not return for the ''Beast Wars: Transmetals'' game, resulting in Rhinox, Quickstrike, Blackarachnia, Tigatron and Ravage to be recast. The latter three being replaced by [[CrossRegionalVoiceActing Toronto actors]] Janet Laine Green and Martin Roach, while (respectively) Alec Willows and Creator/IanJamesCorlett subbed in for the first two roles.
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* CharacterSpecificPages: [[Characters/BeastWarsMegatron Megatron]]
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*** In this very same episode, when Ravage transforms in cassette mode, the original [[ThemeTune Transfomers cartoon theme song]] was meant to be played. However, copyright issues complicated things so the idea was scrapped.

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*** In this very same episode, when Ravage transforms in cassette mode, the original [[ThemeTune Transfomers cartoon theme song]] was meant to be played. However, copyright issues complicated things so the idea was scrapped.scrapped (however, they ''did'' have Ravage use [[SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound the original G1 transformation noise]] when he transformed).
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* FanNickname: Dinobot '''is''' [[MemeticMutation Raptor Jesus!]]

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