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* CreatorBacklash: In his Facebook post discussing the band, Neige himself personally was more satisfied with ''Ruines Humaines'' than the debut, citing his favorite songs being "Bonheur amputé" and "Faiblesse des Sens".
* OldShame: Averted. While most people feel Neige and Fursy weren't happy with Amesoeurs due to the fact they rarely perform songs from it (the closest fans got to an "Amesoeurs reunion" was performances of "Gas in Veins", One ''can'' however argue that Neige can't perform Amesoeurs songs on Alcest shows due to it's radically different sound and image (Amesoeurs being depressing and melancholic while Alcest being optimistic and loving).

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In his Facebook post discussing the band, Neige himself personally was more satisfied with ''Ruines Humaines'' than the debut, citing his favorite songs being "Bonheur amputé" and "Faiblesse des Sens".
* OldShame: ** Averted. While most people feel Neige and Fursy weren't happy with Amesoeurs due to the fact they rarely perform songs from it (the closest fans got to an "Amesoeurs reunion" was performances of "Gas in Veins", One ''can'' however argue that Neige can't perform Amesoeurs songs on Alcest shows due to it's radically different sound and image (Amesoeurs being depressing and melancholic while Alcest being optimistic and loving).
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** Neige was also suppose to sing the song but instead let Audrey take a hold of it.

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** Neige was also suppose supposed to sing the song song, but instead let Audrey take a hold of it.
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* DoingItForTheArt: The band, especially Fursy were dedicated to making the debut album look like a masterpiece, and is actually the reason ''why'' the band got together despite Neige and Audrey's argument.
** Case and point, Fursy later on began to sell a poster version of the album cover, with his and Negie's signatures on it.
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* CreatorBacklash: In his Facebook post discussing the band, Neige himself personally was more satisfied with ''Ruines Humaines'' than the debut, citing his favorite songs being "Bonheur amputé" and "Faiblesse des Sens".
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** Neige later on confirmed [[https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1879316038767654&id=170674326298509 on a Facebook post]] that he didn't regret Amesoeurs and is quite proud of the music he made for the band, but rather it came from a dark place and dark time, hence his reluctance to reunite the band, if it were even possible for him]].

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** Neige later on confirmed [[https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1879316038767654&id=170674326298509 on a Facebook post]] that he didn't regret Amesoeurs and is quite proud of the music he made for the band, but rather it came from a dark place and dark time, hence his reluctance to reunite the band, if it were even possible for him]]. him.



* WordOfGod: Neige himself confirmed [[https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1879316038767654&id=170674326298509 on a Facebook post]] that the song "Video Girl" was actually based off the manga "Video Girl AI" and took inspiration from it.

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* WordOfGod: Neige himself confirmed [[https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1879316038767654&id=170674326298509 on a Facebook post]] that the song "Video Girl" was actually based off the manga "Video ''Video Girl AI" and took inspiration from it.AI''.

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* OldShame: Averted, but it is debated. Fursy and Neige rarely play Amesoeurs songs on their projects, the only surviving song they played together live was "Gas in Veins", but that's it. One ''can'' however argue that Neige can't perform Amesoeurs songs on Alcest shows due to it's radically different sound and image (Amesoeurs being depressing and melancholic while Alcest being optimistic and loving).

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* OldShame: Averted, but it is debated. Averted. While most people feel Neige and Fursy and Neige rarely play weren't happy with Amesoeurs due to the fact they rarely perform songs on their projects, the only surviving song they played together live from it (the closest fans got to an "Amesoeurs reunion" was performances of "Gas in Veins", but that's it. One ''can'' however argue that Neige can't perform Amesoeurs songs on Alcest shows due to it's radically different sound and image (Amesoeurs being depressing and melancholic while Alcest being optimistic and loving).



** Neige later on confirmed [[https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1879316038767654&id=170674326298509 on a Facebook post]] that he didn't regret Amesoeurs and is quite proud of the music he made for the band, but rather it came from a dark place and dark time, hence his reluctance to reunite the band, if it were even possible for him]].



* ShortLivedBigImpact: Amesoeurs lasted from 2004-2009 with one EP, a split with ''one'' song, and finally the debut, and yet they left a huge profounding impact within the black metal community, as well as launching even more the careers of Neige/Winterhalter, Fursy, and Audrey.

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* ShortLivedBigImpact: Amesoeurs lasted from 2004-2009 with one EP, a split with ''one'' song, and finally the debut, and yet they left a huge profounding impact within the black metal community, as well as launching even more the careers of Neige/Winterhalter, Fursy, and Audrey.community.



** Despite this, let's be honest: ''Whatever was planned for this band'', [[TearJerker And then some]].

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** Despite this, let's be honest: ''Whatever was planned for this band'', [[TearJerker And then some]].some]].
* WordOfGod: Neige himself confirmed [[https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1879316038767654&id=170674326298509 on a Facebook post]] that the song "Video Girl" was actually based off the manga "Video Girl AI" and took inspiration from it.

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* OldShame: ''Sort of''. Fursy and Neige rarely play Amesoeurs songs on their projects, the only surviving song they played together live was "Gas in Veins".
** This is mainly due to the fact Audrey sang about 95% of the songs (mainly on the debut, she sang one song on the ''Ruines humaines''). While one ''could'' say that Audrey Hadorn (secondary member of Fursy's band Les Discrets and arguably Fursy's girlfriend) could cover said songs if they were to perform live, but don't..

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* OldShame: ''Sort of''. Averted, but it is debated. Fursy and Neige rarely play Amesoeurs songs on their projects, the only surviving song they played together live was "Gas in Veins".
Veins", but that's it. One ''can'' however argue that Neige can't perform Amesoeurs songs on Alcest shows due to it's radically different sound and image (Amesoeurs being depressing and melancholic while Alcest being optimistic and loving).
** This is mainly due to the fact Audrey sang about 95% of the songs (mainly on the debut, she sang one song on the ''Ruines humaines''). While one ''could'' say that Audrey Hadorn (secondary member of Fursy's band Les Discrets and arguably Fursy's girlfriend) could cover said songs if they were to perform live, but don't.. it seems that's out of the question. Especially odd considering Fursy has shown interest and hope in seeing the project revived.



** Thankfully averted with the debut. Production was planned but then Neige and Audrey had their spat and the band was ceased. It wasn't until ''thankfully'' enough they decided to make the debut their last and make it "special" as a result of what we got.

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** Thankfully averted with the debut. Production was planned but then Neige and Audrey had their spat and the band was ceased. It wasn't until ''thankfully'' enough they decided to make the debut their last and make it "special" as a result of what we got.got.
** Despite this, let's be honest: ''Whatever was planned for this band'', [[TearJerker And then some]].
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** Neige was also suppose to sing the song but instead let Audrey take a hold of it.

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** Neige was also suppose to sing the song but instead let Audrey take a hold of it.it.
** Thankfully averted with the debut. Production was planned but then Neige and Audrey had their spat and the band was ceased. It wasn't until ''thankfully'' enough they decided to make the debut their last and make it "special" as a result of what we got.
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** This is mainly due to the fact Audrey sang about 95% of the songs (mainly on the debut, she sang one song on the ''Ruines humaines'). While one ''could'' say that Audrey Hadorn (secondary member of Fursy's band Les Discrets and arguably Fursy's girlfriend) could cover said songs if they were to perform live, but don't..

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** This is mainly due to the fact Audrey sang about 95% of the songs (mainly on the debut, she sang one song on the ''Ruines humaines').humaines''). While one ''could'' say that Audrey Hadorn (secondary member of Fursy's band Les Discrets and arguably Fursy's girlfriend) could cover said songs if they were to perform live, but don't..
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** This is mainly due to the fact Audrey sang about 95% of the songs (mainly on the debut, she sang one song on the ''Ruines humaines'). While one ''could'' say that Audrey Hadorn (secondary member of Fursy's band Les Discrets and arguably Fursy's girlfriend) could cover said songs if they were to perform live, but don't..
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* OldShame: ''Sort of''. Fursy and Neige rarely play Amesoeurs songs on their projects, the only surviving song they played together live was "Gas in Veins".
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Neige originally wrote the song "Faiblesse Des Sens" as a Morfetia song, but they said it was "gay". He used the song for Amesoeurs's EP ''Ruines Humaines'' instead.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Neige originally wrote the song "Faiblesse Des Sens" as a Morfetia Mortifera song, but they said it was "gay". He used the song for Amesoeurs's EP ''Ruines Humaines'' instead.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Neige originally wrote the song "Faiblesse Des Sens" as Morfetia song, but they said it was "gay". He used the song for Amesoeurs's EP ''Ruines Humaines'' instead.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Neige originally wrote the song "Faiblesse Des Sens" as a Morfetia song, but they said it was "gay". He used the song for Amesoeurs's EP ''Ruines Humaines'' instead.
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* ShortLivedBigImpact: Amesoeurs lasted from 2004-2009 with one EP, a split with ''one'' song, and finally the debut, and yet they left a huge profounding impact within the black metal community, as well as launching even more the careers of Neige/Winterhalter, Fursy, and Audrey.

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* ShortLivedBigImpact: Amesoeurs lasted from 2004-2009 with one EP, a split with ''one'' song, and finally the debut, and yet they left a huge profounding impact within the black metal community, as well as launching even more the careers of Neige/Winterhalter, Fursy, and Audrey.Audrey.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Neige originally wrote the song "Faiblesse Des Sens" as Morfetia song, but they said it was "gay". He used the song for Amesoeurs's EP ''Ruines Humaines'' instead.
** Neige was also suppose to sing the song but instead let Audrey take a hold of it.
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* ShortLivedBigImpact: Amesoeurs lasted from 2004-2009 with one EP, a split with ''one'' song, and finally the debut, and yet they left a huge profounding impact within the black metal community, as well as launching even more the careers of Neige/Winterhaunter, Fursy, and Audrey.

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* ShortLivedBigImpact: Amesoeurs lasted from 2004-2009 with one EP, a split with ''one'' song, and finally the debut, and yet they left a huge profounding impact within the black metal community, as well as launching even more the careers of Neige/Winterhaunter, Neige/Winterhalter, Fursy, and Audrey.
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* ShortLivedBigImpact: Amesoeurs lasted from 2004-2009 and yet they left a huge profounding impact within the black metal community, as well as launching even more the careers of Neige/Winterhaunter, Fursy, and Audrey.

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* ShortLivedBigImpact: Amesoeurs lasted from 2004-2009 with one EP, a split with ''one'' song, and finally the debut, and yet they left a huge profounding impact within the black metal community, as well as launching even more the careers of Neige/Winterhaunter, Fursy, and Audrey.
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** Case and point, Fursy later on began to sell a poster version of the album cover, with his and Negie's signatures on it.
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* DoingItForTheArt: The band, especially Fursy were dedicated to making the debut album look like a masterpiece, and is actually the reason ''why'' the band got together despite Neige and Audrey's argument.
* TroubledProduction: Planning of the album was a mess and due to complications with Neige and Audrey, the band broke up. It wasn't until DoingItForTheArt came in that they decided to make the self titled.
* ShortLivedBigImpact: Amesoeurs lasted from 2004-2009 and yet they left a huge profounding impact within the black metal community, as well as launching even more the careers of Neige/Winterhaunter, Fursy, and Audrey.

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