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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Michael Alvarez finally outlined why people kept leaving in early 2020 after Brandon Busa called out Andrew for not giving him his drum gear back after he had left it with him, when he declared on Facebook that he was done with Andrew in every possible way and tore into him for his rude, selfish, ungrateful, and childish behavior and his habitual failure to pay people what he owed them (including money that Alvarez was owed for ''Feast'', which he never saw a penny of despite the album's solid sales). Allen Burton would go on to echo this, as he also said that while he was originally going to do their upcoming European tour as one final favor, the incident with Busa's gear, coupled with Andrew blaming him for catching felony charges in Texas (after a band-wide arrest that occurred due to [[WhatAnIdiot Andrew pulling an illegal U-turn in front of a police officer with a van that had expired tags and a bunch of weed and paraphernalia inside]]), was also his own personal last straw.

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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Michael Alvarez finally outlined why people kept leaving in early 2020 after Brandon Busa called out Andrew for not giving him his drum gear back after he had left it with him, when he declared on Facebook that he was done with Andrew in every possible way and tore into him for his rude, selfish, ungrateful, and childish behavior and his habitual failure to pay people what he owed them (including money that Alvarez was owed for ''Feast'', which he never saw a penny of despite the album's solid sales). Allen Burton would go on to echo this, as he also said that while he was originally going to do their upcoming European tour as one final favor, the incident with Busa's gear, coupled with Andrew blaming him for catching felony charges in Texas (after a band-wide arrest that occurred due to [[WhatAnIdiot Andrew pulling an illegal U-turn in front of a police officer with a van that had expired tags and a bunch of weed and paraphernalia inside]]), inside), was also his own personal last straw.
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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Michael Alvarez finally outlined why people kept leaving in early 2020, when he declared on Facebook that he was done with Andrew in every possible way and tore into him for his rude, selfish, ungrateful, and childish behavior and his habitual failure to pay people what he owed them (including money that Alvarez was owed for ''Feast'', which he never saw a penny of despite the album's solid sales). He also referenced the Gofundme that was ostensibly set up to help the entire band recover from a substantial financial hit on their fall 2019 tour (much of which was due to a band-wide arrest after [[WhatAnIdiot Andrew pulled an illegal U-turn in front of a Texas Highway Patrol officer with a van that had expired tags and was full of weed and paraphernalia plus other things that were illegal in Texas]]) that Andrew used to defraud fans by paying the band's merch bill, pocketing the rest, and then proceeding to sell the donors the merch that their donations had paid for. He also cited Andrew's failure to return Brandon Busa's drum gear (after Busa had left the tour due to a family emergency and had left the gear with Andrew with the intention of retrieving it later) and blocking and ghosting him after he bailed on the tour and only agreeing to return it due to people blowing up the band's page as the final straw. Allen Burton would go on to echo this, as he also said that while he was originally going to do their upcoming European tour as one final favor, the incident with Busa's gear, coupled with Andrew blaming him for catching felony charges in Texas, was also his own personal last straw.

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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Michael Alvarez finally outlined why people kept leaving in early 2020, 2020 after Brandon Busa called out Andrew for not giving him his drum gear back after he had left it with him, when he declared on Facebook that he was done with Andrew in every possible way and tore into him for his rude, selfish, ungrateful, and childish behavior and his habitual failure to pay people what he owed them (including money that Alvarez was owed for ''Feast'', which he never saw a penny of despite the album's solid sales). He also referenced the Gofundme that was ostensibly set up to help the entire band recover from a substantial financial hit on their fall 2019 tour (much of which was due to a band-wide arrest after [[WhatAnIdiot Andrew pulled an illegal U-turn in front of a Texas Highway Patrol officer with a van that had expired tags and was full of weed and paraphernalia plus other things that were illegal in Texas]]) that Andrew used to defraud fans by paying the band's merch bill, pocketing the rest, and then proceeding to sell the donors the merch that their donations had paid for. He also cited Andrew's failure to return Brandon Busa's drum gear (after Busa had left the tour due to a family emergency and had left the gear with Andrew with the intention of retrieving it later) and blocking and ghosting him after he bailed on the tour and only agreeing to return it due to people blowing up the band's page as the final straw. Allen Burton would go on to echo this, as he also said that while he was originally going to do their upcoming European tour as one final favor, the incident with Busa's gear, coupled with Andrew blaming him for catching felony charges in Texas, Texas (after a band-wide arrest that occurred due to [[WhatAnIdiot Andrew pulling an illegal U-turn in front of a police officer with a van that had expired tags and a bunch of weed and paraphernalia inside]]), was also his own personal last straw.
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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Michael Alvarez finally outlined why people kept leaving in early 2020, when he declared on Facebook that he was done with Andrew in every possible way and tore into him for his rude, selfish, ungrateful, and childish behavior and his habitual failure to pay people what he owed them (including money that Alvarez was owed for ''Feast'', which he never saw a penny of despite the album's solid sales). He also referenced the Gofundme that was ostensibly set up to help the entire band recover from a substantial financial hit on their fall 2019 tour (much of which was due to a band-wide arrest after [[WhatAnIdiot Andrew pulled an illegal U-turn in front of a Texas Ranger with a van that had expired tags and was full of weed and paraphernalia plus other things that were illegal in Texas]]) that Andrew used to defraud fans by paying the band's merch bill, pocketing the rest, and then proceeding to sell the donors the merch that their donations had paid for. He also cited Andrew's failure to return Brandon Busa's drum gear (after Busa had left the tour due to a family emergency and had left the gear with Andrew with the intention of retrieving it later) and blocking and ghosting him after he bailed on the tour and only agreeing to return it due to people blowing up the band's page as the final straw. Allen Burton would go on to echo this, as he also said that while he was originally going to do their upcoming European tour as one final favor, the incident with Busa's gear, coupled with Andrew blaming him for catching felony charges in Texas, was also his own personal last straw.

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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Michael Alvarez finally outlined why people kept leaving in early 2020, when he declared on Facebook that he was done with Andrew in every possible way and tore into him for his rude, selfish, ungrateful, and childish behavior and his habitual failure to pay people what he owed them (including money that Alvarez was owed for ''Feast'', which he never saw a penny of despite the album's solid sales). He also referenced the Gofundme that was ostensibly set up to help the entire band recover from a substantial financial hit on their fall 2019 tour (much of which was due to a band-wide arrest after [[WhatAnIdiot Andrew pulled an illegal U-turn in front of a Texas Ranger Highway Patrol officer with a van that had expired tags and was full of weed and paraphernalia plus other things that were illegal in Texas]]) that Andrew used to defraud fans by paying the band's merch bill, pocketing the rest, and then proceeding to sell the donors the merch that their donations had paid for. He also cited Andrew's failure to return Brandon Busa's drum gear (after Busa had left the tour due to a family emergency and had left the gear with Andrew with the intention of retrieving it later) and blocking and ghosting him after he bailed on the tour and only agreeing to return it due to people blowing up the band's page as the final straw. Allen Burton would go on to echo this, as he also said that while he was originally going to do their upcoming European tour as one final favor, the incident with Busa's gear, coupled with Andrew blaming him for catching felony charges in Texas, was also his own personal last straw.
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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Michael Alvarez finally outlined why people kept leaving in early 2020, when he declared on Facebook that he was done with Andrew in every possible way and tore into him for his rude, selfish, ungrateful, and childish behavior and his habitual failure to pay people what he owed them (including money that Alvarez was owed for ''Feast'', which he never saw a penny of despite the album's solid sales). He also referenced the Gofundme that was ostensibly set up to help the entire band recover from a substantial financial hit on their fall 2019 tour (much of which was due to a band-wide arrest after [[WhatAnIdiot Andrew pulled an illegal U-turn in front of a Texas Ranger with a van that had expired tags and was full of weed and paraphernalia plus other things that were illegal in Texas]]) that Andrew used to defraud fans by paying their merch bill, pocketing the rest, and then proceeding to sell the donors the merch that their donations had paid for. He also cited Andrew's failure to return Brandon Busa's drum gear (after Busa had left the tour due to a family emergency and had left the gear with Andrew with the intention of retrieving it later) and blocking and ghosting him after he bailed on the tour and only agreeing to return it due to people blowing up the band's page as the final straw. Allen Burton would go on to echo this, as he also said that while he was originally going to do their upcoming European tour as one final favor, the incident with Busa's gear, coupled with Lamb blaming him for catching felony charges in Texas, was also his own personal last straw.

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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Michael Alvarez finally outlined why people kept leaving in early 2020, when he declared on Facebook that he was done with Andrew in every possible way and tore into him for his rude, selfish, ungrateful, and childish behavior and his habitual failure to pay people what he owed them (including money that Alvarez was owed for ''Feast'', which he never saw a penny of despite the album's solid sales). He also referenced the Gofundme that was ostensibly set up to help the entire band recover from a substantial financial hit on their fall 2019 tour (much of which was due to a band-wide arrest after [[WhatAnIdiot Andrew pulled an illegal U-turn in front of a Texas Ranger with a van that had expired tags and was full of weed and paraphernalia plus other things that were illegal in Texas]]) that Andrew used to defraud fans by paying their the band's merch bill, pocketing the rest, and then proceeding to sell the donors the merch that their donations had paid for. He also cited Andrew's failure to return Brandon Busa's drum gear (after Busa had left the tour due to a family emergency and had left the gear with Andrew with the intention of retrieving it later) and blocking and ghosting him after he bailed on the tour and only agreeing to return it due to people blowing up the band's page as the final straw. Allen Burton would go on to echo this, as he also said that while he was originally going to do their upcoming European tour as one final favor, the incident with Busa's gear, coupled with Lamb Andrew blaming him for catching felony charges in Texas, was also his own personal last straw.
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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Also subverted with Mike Alvarez, as he was just burned out from touring and needed to tend to his personal life, and Flub was also looking at some great opportunities.

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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Also subverted with Mike Alvarez, as Michael Alvarez finally outlined why people kept leaving in early 2020, when he declared on Facebook that he was just burned out done with Andrew in every possible way and tore into him for his rude, selfish, ungrateful, and childish behavior and his habitual failure to pay people what he owed them (including money that Alvarez was owed for ''Feast'', which he never saw a penny of despite the album's solid sales). He also referenced the Gofundme that was ostensibly set up to help the entire band recover from touring a substantial financial hit on their fall 2019 tour (much of which was due to a band-wide arrest after [[WhatAnIdiot Andrew pulled an illegal U-turn in front of a Texas Ranger with a van that had expired tags and needed was full of weed and paraphernalia plus other things that were illegal in Texas]]) that Andrew used to tend defraud fans by paying their merch bill, pocketing the rest, and then proceeding to sell the donors the merch that their donations had paid for. He also cited Andrew's failure to return Brandon Busa's drum gear (after Busa had left the tour due to a family emergency and had left the gear with Andrew with the intention of retrieving it later) and blocking and ghosting him after he bailed on the tour and only agreeing to return it due to people blowing up the band's page as the final straw. Allen Burton would go on to echo this, as he also said that while he was originally going to do their upcoming European tour as one final favor, the incident with Busa's gear, coupled with Lamb blaming him for catching felony charges in Texas, was also his own personal life, and Flub was also looking at some great opportunities.last straw.
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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb's control freak diva behavior caused him to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances without being an asshole. While he has long since made amends with Monte Barnard and Gabe Seeber and never really fell out of favor with Mikey Wilson, Rusty Cornell and Michael Zamora still hate him and refuse to have anything to do with him. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Also subverted with Mike Alvarez, as he was just burned out from touring and needed to tend to his personal life.

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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb's control freak diva behavior caused him Lamb managed to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances without being an asshole. While he has long since made amends with Monte Barnard and Gabe Seeber and never really fell out of favor with Mikey Wilson, Rusty Cornell and Michael Zamora still hate him and refuse to have anything to do with him.in a healthier manner. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Also subverted with Mike Alvarez, as he was just burned out from touring and needed to tend to his personal life.life, and Flub was also looking at some great opportunities.
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* OneOfUs: Andrew Lamb and Michael Alvarez are avid gamers, and the fact that they named themselves after ''Videogame/AlteredBeast'' should have clued you in to begin with.
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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb's control freak diva behavior caused him to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances without being an asshole. While he has long since made amends with Monte Barnard and Gabe Seeber and never really fell out of favor with Mikey Wilson, Rusty Cornell and Michael Zamora still hate him and refuse to have anything to do with him. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them.

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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb's control freak diva behavior caused him to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances without being an asshole. While he has long since made amends with Monte Barnard and Gabe Seeber and never really fell out of favor with Mikey Wilson, Rusty Cornell and Michael Zamora still hate him and refuse to have anything to do with him. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them. Also subverted with Mike Alvarez, as he was just burned out from touring and needed to tend to his personal life.
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* CreatorBacklash: Andrew Lamb is not a fan of ''Immortal''. As far as he's concerned, it's a GBAA album, not really an Alterbeast album, and while he still stands behind several tracks and regularly plays material from it live, he is significantly happier with ''Feast''.
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* FanCommunityNicknames: They have referred to their fanbase on social media as the "Wolf-Tang Clan".
* OneOfUs: Andrew Lamb and Michael Alvarez are avid gamers, and the fact that they named themselves after ''Videogame/AlteredBeast'' should have clued you in to begin with.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: This very well may have been one of the things that saved the band. The initial plan for ''Feast'' was to cobble together just enough people (most likely just Lamb plus Cam Rogers and Alex Bent) to record what was going to be an EP of their remaining unrecorded material, then formally call it quits. When Lamb presented this proposal to Unique Leader Records, he was told that they wouldn't accept an EP and that he had to present them with a full album; this, coupled with the unwavering fan support, was more than likely what led Lamb to keep the band going during the uncertain period instead of just putting out a swansong release.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: This very well may have been one of the things that saved the band. The initial plan for ''Feast'' after the band collapsed in 2015 was to cobble together just enough people (most likely just Lamb plus Cam Rogers and Alex Bent) to record what was going to be an EP of their remaining unrecorded material, then formally call it quits. When Lamb presented this proposal to Unique Leader Records, he was told that they wouldn't accept an EP and that he had to present them with a full album; this, coupled with the unwavering fan support, was more than likely what led Lamb to keep the band going during the uncertain period instead of just putting out a swansong release.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: This very well may have been one of the things that saved the band. The initial plan for ''Feast'' was to cobble together just enough people (most likely just Lamb plus Cam Rogers and Alex Bent) to record what was going to be an EP of their remaining unrecorded material, then formally call it quits. When Lamb presented this proposal to Unique Leader Records, he was told that they wouldn't accept an EP and that he had to present them with a full album; this, coupled with the unwavering fan support, was more than likely what led Lamb to keep the band going during the uncertain period instead of just putting out a swansong release.
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* CreativeDifferences: Andrew Lamb's control freak diva behavior caused him to lose his entire band after the 2015 Devastation on the Nation tour, and a good deal of the year or so that followed was devoted to becoming a better person and learning how to handle adverse circumstances without being an asshole. While he has long since made amends with Monte Barnard and Gabe Seeber and never really fell out of favor with Mikey Wilson, Rusty Cornell and Michael Zamora still hate him and refuse to have anything to do with him. Dylan Walker's aborted live stint with the band, meanwhile, was strictly creative; while a very talented drummer, he is far better at improvisation and technical playing than he is at blasting, and one practice session with Alterbeast made it painfully clear that he was not a good fit for them.
* DevelopmentHell: The four-year gap between ''Immortal'' and ''Feast'' was due to a multitude of factors; while most of the record had been written as early as 2015, the departure of literally the entire band save for Andrew Lamb put a stop to their hopes of immediately running into the studio after Devastation on the Nation. Lamb then almost just gave up and called it quits altogether before he decided to slowly rebuild the band while mostly working on himself, and even after he had a new lineup, he had to get them up to speed live before he could finish recording the album. The album was finally done in the summer of 2017 and was ready to go then and there, but Unique Leader chose to have them wait until the beginning of 2018.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Cam was originally supposed to track vocals on ''Feast'' before it fell through, and "The Maggot's Ascension" was originally titled "Sharpening Archaic Rust" and had different lyrics from Monte's time in the band.

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