History Theatre / Oliver

10th Jun '17 1:28:52 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Fagin seems to dislike Bill Sikes's penchant for violence and his treatment of Nancy. The thieves and pickpockets under his care also react with horror when Sikes beats Nancy in front of them. Also, [[spoiler:when Sikes tells the gang that he murdered Nancy, Fagin is visibly horrified and refuses to help him escape]].



* EvenEvilHasStandards: Fagin seems to dislike Bill Sikes's penchant for violence and his treatment of Nancy. The thieves and pickpockets under his care also react with horror when Sikes beats Nancy in front of them. Also, [[spoiler:when Sikes tells the gang that he murdered Nancy, Fagin is visibly horrified and refuses to help him escape]].
9th Jun '17 9:59:21 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* BerserkButton: [[BewareTheNiceOnes Do not insult Oliver's dead mother.]] Or call him a liar for that matter, doesn't matter whether you are a "work ass" calling jerkass or Bill BigBad Sikes himself, you will make an ugly scene.

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* BerserkButton: [[BewareTheNiceOnes Do not insult Oliver's dead mother.]] Or call him a liar for that matter, doesn't matter whether you are a "work ass" calling jerkass {{jerkass}} or Bill BigBad Sikes himself, you will make an ugly scene.



** Fagin, de-emphasizing his GreedyJew characterization in the original. Particularly notable is Ron Moody's cheerfully hammy performance in the 1968 film version. (He even stands up for Oliver on two occasions.)

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** Fagin, de-emphasizing [[AdaptationalHeroism de-emphasizing]] his GreedyJew characterization in the original. Particularly notable is Ron Moody's cheerfully hammy performance in the 1968 film version. (He even stands up for Oliver on two occasions.)
9th Jun '17 9:57:12 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* AffablyEvil: Fagin and Dodger, who, while genuinely pleasant to the kids under their care, actively look for children to recruit using many of the same criteria as modern cults. [[spoiler: Fagin, however, after seeing how Nancy and Bill turned out, has something of a change of heart and, after some soul-searching and the destruction of his operation, resolves to turn over a new leaf.]]



* AffablyEvil: Fagin and Dodger, who, while genuinely pleasant to the kids under their care, actively look for children to recruit using many of the same criteria as modern cults. [[spoiler: Fagin, however, after seeing how Nancy and Bill turned out, has something of a change of heart and, after some soul-searching and the destruction of his operation, resolves to turn over a new leaf.]]



* UnholyMatrimony: Subverted with the Bumbles. In their early scenes, they flirt a lot and get a whole silly love song to themselves, but by the end of the play when they reappear, having finally tied the knot, it's clear that, being awful people, they have only managed to make one another miserable.

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* UnholyMatrimony: Subverted with the Bumbles. In their early scenes, they flirt a lot and get a whole silly love song to themselves, but by the end of the play when they reappear, having finally tied the knot, it's clear that, being awful people, they have only managed to [[AwfulWeddedLife make one another miserable.miserable]].
27th Apr '17 6:38:32 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* ArtfulDodger: Well of course. In fact even more so than in the book.

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* ArtfulDodger: TheArtfulDodger: Well of course. In fact even more so than in the book.
17th Apr '17 3:35:31 AM dieseldragons
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* CheerfulChild: Oliver brings out the best in nearly everyone he meets, even Fagin. The exceptions to this [[HumansAreBastards are the completely heartless]].
17th Apr '17 3:27:21 AM dieseldragons
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* BerserkButton: [[BewareTheNiceOnes Do not insult Oliver's dead mother.]]

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* BerserkButton: [[BewareTheNiceOnes Do not insult Oliver's dead mother.]]]] Or call him a liar for that matter, doesn't matter whether you are a "work ass" calling jerkass or Bill BigBad Sikes himself, you will make an ugly scene.


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* ContrivedCoincidence: Oliver witnesses and initially gets blamed for Dodger pick-pocketing, [[spoiler: his own great uncle, no less.]]
26th Feb '17 12:06:34 AM PaulA
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24th Feb '17 1:59:22 PM Berrenta
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10th Aug '16 5:32:21 PM MrCaptainA
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* KnightOfCerebus: Bill Sykes. The show gets ''much'' darker once he shows up.
25th Jun '16 9:26:50 PM PaulA
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