History Theatre / MaratSade

25th Nov '15 3:50:21 AM JulianLapostat
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* ShownTheirWork: Historicalle Marquis de Sade (or Citizen Sade as he was called then) gave the eulogy for Marat's funeral ([[LargeHam He compared Marat to Jesus]]) and apparently he and Marat interacted a couple of times. Likewise, Sade was imprisoned in Charenton on one of Napoleon's whims and he ''did'' stage plays in the asylum as part of Coulmier's therapy.

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* ShownTheirWork: Historicalle Historically Marquis de Sade (or Citizen Sade as he was called then) gave the eulogy for Marat's funeral ([[LargeHam He compared Marat to Jesus]]) and apparently he and Marat interacted a couple of times. Likewise, Sade was imprisoned in Charenton on one of Napoleon's whims and he ''did'' stage plays in the asylum as part of Coulmier's therapy.
24th Nov '15 6:06:58 AM JulianLapostat
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* {{Minimalism}}: The play contains elements of this.

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* {{Minimalism}}: The play contains elements of this. Though the theatrical production's sets and direction are regarded as being highly intense and sensuous more than minimalist.


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* ShownTheirWork: Historicalle Marquis de Sade (or Citizen Sade as he was called then) gave the eulogy for Marat's funeral ([[LargeHam He compared Marat to Jesus]]) and apparently he and Marat interacted a couple of times. Likewise, Sade was imprisoned in Charenton on one of Napoleon's whims and he ''did'' stage plays in the asylum as part of Coulmier's therapy.
24th Apr '15 1:58:50 PM MarkLungo
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* UsefulNotes/{{Network Executive|s}}s: Coulmier.

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* UsefulNotes/{{Network Executive|s}}s: Executive|s}}: Coulmier.
24th Apr '15 1:58:34 PM MarkLungo
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24th Apr '15 1:58:20 PM MarkLungo
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--> ''Our play's chief aim has been to take to bits''
--> ''[[ValuesDissonance Great propositions and their opposites,]]''
--> ''See how they work, and [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind let them fight it out,]]''
--> ''To point some light on our eternal doubt.''
--> ''Marat and I both advocated force''
--> ''But in debate each took a different course.''
--> ''Both wanted changes, but his views and mine''
--> ''On using power never could combine.''
--> ''On the one side, he who thinks our lives''
--> ''Can be improved by axes and knives,''
--> ''Or he who, submerged in the imagination,''
--> ''Seeking a personal annihilation.''
---> [[Creator/MarquisDeSade de Sade]], [[WordOfGod explaining the play.]] [[MindScrew Maybe.]]

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--> ''Our ->''"Our play's chief aim has been to take to bits''
-->
bits''\\
''[[ValuesDissonance Great propositions and their opposites,]]''
-->
opposites,]]''\\
''See how they work, and [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind let them fight it out,]]''
-->
out,]]''\\
''To point some light on our eternal doubt.''
-->
''\\
''Marat and I both advocated force''
-->
force''\\
''But in debate each took a different course.''
-->
''\\
''Both wanted changes, but his views and mine''
-->
mine''\\
''On using power never could combine.''
-->
''\\
''On the one side, he who thinks our lives''
-->
lives''\\
''Can be improved by axes and knives,''
-->
knives,''\\
''Or he who, submerged in the imagination,''
-->
imagination,''\\
''Seeking a personal annihilation.''
---> [[Creator/MarquisDeSade de Sade]],
"''
-->--'''Creator/MarquisDeSade''',
[[WordOfGod explaining the play.]] [[MindScrew Maybe.]]



* NetworkExecutives: Coulmier.

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* NetworkExecutives: UsefulNotes/{{Network Executive|s}}s: Coulmier.
28th Dec '14 3:05:20 PM Quag15
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* CoolPeopleRebelAgainstAuthority: The film is about TheFrenchRevolution. Come on.

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* CoolPeopleRebelAgainstAuthority: The film is about TheFrenchRevolution.UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution. Come on.



* TheFrenchRevolution: The play-within-the-play deals with the aftermath of this.

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* TheFrenchRevolution: UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution: The play-within-the-play deals with the aftermath of this.



--> ''Woe to the man who is different, who tries to break down all the barriers. Woe to [[BornInTheWrongCentury the man who tries to stretch the imagination of Man]]. He shall be mocked. He shall be scourged by the blinkered guardians of morality. You wanted enlightenment and warmth and so you studied light and heat. You wondered how forces can be controlled so you studied electricity. You wanted to know what man is for so you asked yourself, "What is this soul this dump for hollow ideals and mangled morals?" You decided that the soul is in the brain, and that it can learn to think--For to you the soul is a practical thing a tool for ruling and mastering life. And you came one day to [[TheFrenchRevolution the Revolution]] because you saw the most important vision: That our circumstances must be changed fundamentally, and without these changes everything we try to do must fail.''

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--> ''Woe to the man who is different, who tries to break down all the barriers. Woe to [[BornInTheWrongCentury the man who tries to stretch the imagination of Man]]. He shall be mocked. He shall be scourged by the blinkered guardians of morality. You wanted enlightenment and warmth and so you studied light and heat. You wondered how forces can be controlled so you studied electricity. You wanted to know what man is for so you asked yourself, "What is this soul this dump for hollow ideals and mangled morals?" You decided that the soul is in the brain, and that it can learn to think--For to you the soul is a practical thing a tool for ruling and mastering life. And you came one day to [[TheFrenchRevolution [[UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution the Revolution]] because you saw the most important vision: That our circumstances must be changed fundamentally, and without these changes everything we try to do must fail.''



* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: This is discussed in depth, in regards to TheFrenchRevolution.

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* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: This is discussed in depth, in regards to TheFrenchRevolution.UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution.
11th Nov '14 4:15:46 PM Ingonyama
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* ActingForTwo: Sort of. In the prologue, the Herald introduces both the characters and the patients playing them, but blurs the line somewhat--for example, introducing Jacques Roux but not the actor playing him. And throughout the play, the actors slip in and out of 'character' (between the person they're playing, and the person that person is playing).

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* ActingForTwo: [[invoked]] Sort of. In the prologue, the Herald introduces both the characters and the patients playing them, but blurs the line somewhat--for example, introducing Jacques Roux but not the actor playing him. And throughout the play, the actors slip in and out of 'character' (between the person they're playing, and the person that person is playing).



* ExecutiveMeddling: One of the few times that this occurs ''during'' the actual play.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: [[invoked]] One of the few times that this occurs ''during'' the actual play.



* RealitySubtext: The Marquis de Sade actually did put on shows with the inmates when he was in Charenton.

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* RealitySubtext: The Marquis TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Marat and de Sade actually did put on trade these.
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Both Averted and played straight. Coulmier obviously is acting as the censor for the play, and in addition to being a Napoleonic lanky. Generally however, he is too dim to notice the amount of subversive messages both Marat and Sade can slip into their speeches. Throughout the course of the play the Herald must add various speeches praising how the masses must listen to the wise leader's advice so they won't become a mob. However, the end of the play
shows with the inmates when that for all of his faults, he was in Charenton.does have a somewhat legitimate point.



* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Marat and de Sade trade these.
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Both Averted and played straight. Coulmier obviously is acting as the censor for the play, and in addition to being a Napoleonic lanky. Generally however, he is too dim to notice the amount of subversive messages both Marat and Sade can slip into their speeches. Throughout the course of the play the Herald must add various speeches praising how the masses must listen to the wise leader's advice so they won't become a mob. However, the end of the play shows that for all of his faults, he does have a somewhat legitimate point.



* WordOfGod: Played with, seeing as [[Creator/MarquisDeSade the author]] [[WriterOnBoard is literally on board.]]

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* WordOfGod: [[invoked]] Played with, seeing as [[Creator/MarquisDeSade the author]] [[WriterOnBoard is literally on board.]]
11th Nov '14 4:11:58 PM Ingonyama
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* UnreasonableAuthorityFigure: Both Averted and played straight. Coulmier obviously is acting as the censor for the play, and in addition to being a Napoleonic lanky. Generally however, he is too dim to notice the amount of subversive messages both Marat and Sade can slip into their speeches. Throughout the course of the play the Herald must add various speeches praising how the masses must listen to the wise leader's advice so they won't become a mob. However, the end of the play shows that for all of his faults, he does have a somewhat legitimate point.

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* UnreasonableAuthorityFigure: ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Both Averted and played straight. Coulmier obviously is acting as the censor for the play, and in addition to being a Napoleonic lanky. Generally however, he is too dim to notice the amount of subversive messages both Marat and Sade can slip into their speeches. Throughout the course of the play the Herald must add various speeches praising how the masses must listen to the wise leader's advice so they won't become a mob. However, the end of the play shows that for all of his faults, he does have a somewhat legitimate point.
26th Oct '14 9:27:39 PM Angelus25
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* BreakingTheFourthWall: In ways you can't even imagine.

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* BreakingTheFourthWall: In ways you can't even imagine. Marat indirectly ends up mentioning to Atom Bomb.



* UnreasonableAuthorityFigure: Both Averted and played straight. The Warden obviously is acting as the censor for the play, and in addition to being a Napoleonic lanky. Generally however, he is too dim to notice the amount of subversive messages both Marat and Sade can slip into their speeches. Throughout the course of the play the Herald must add various speeches praising how the masses must listen to the wise leader's advice so they won't become a mob. However, the end of the play shows that for all of his faults, he does have a somewhat legitimate point.

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* UnreasonableAuthorityFigure: Both Averted and played straight. The Warden Coulmier obviously is acting as the censor for the play, and in addition to being a Napoleonic lanky. Generally however, he is too dim to notice the amount of subversive messages both Marat and Sade can slip into their speeches. Throughout the course of the play the Herald must add various speeches praising how the masses must listen to the wise leader's advice so they won't become a mob. However, the end of the play shows that for all of his faults, he does have a somewhat legitimate point.
17th Jan '14 10:56:46 PM EvilElitest
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*UnreasonableAuthorityFigure: Both Averted and played straight. The Warden obviously is acting as the censor for the play, and in addition to being a Napoleonic lanky. Generally however, he is too dim to notice the amount of subversive messages both Marat and Sade can slip into their speeches. Throughout the course of the play the Herald must add various speeches praising how the masses must listen to the wise leader's advice so they won't become a mob. However, the end of the play shows that for all of his faults, he does have a somewhat legitimate point.
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