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** Alexander, upon defeat, states, "Just as quickly as it began, my long march finally comes to an end", as he wistfully looks to the side and sheaths his sword. These words become more poignant when you know that he died in his thirties despite his actions revolutionising the Hellenistic world.
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** Gandhi ''really'' tries to make you [[PlayerPunch feel guilty]] about [[YouBastard what you've just done]]: "You have defeated the innocent and the helpless." Ouch.

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** After you defeat France, Catherine de Medici calmly [[GracefulLoser accepts her defeat]] and [[FaceDeathWithDignity possible death]]. "I have lived long enough to know when I am defeated. Carry on." Even sadder if you know that, Catherine outlived her husband and most of her children.

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** After you defeat France, Catherine de Medici calmly [[GracefulLoser accepts her defeat]] and [[FaceDeathWithDignity possible death]]. "I have lived long enough to know when I am defeated. Carry on." Even sadder if you know that, that historically, Catherine outlived her husband and most of her children.

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* In ''Civ V'', the player gets to see unique "defeat" scenes for each civilization when you wipe them off the map, in which the civs' leaders react to their defeat and the loss of their empire. Some are stoic, some are angry and vengeful, aand some just... break down. Many of these are appropriately tragic as the leaders grieve for their losses, plus several of them have burning sounds and the sounds of screaming in the background and quite a few strongly imply (and in some cases outright state) that the leaders are about to be executed (and are well aware of this).
** In some cases this is especially so if one can appreciate the BilingualBonus, as what the leader is actually saying doesn't always line up with what the text gives you. For example, Genghis Khan's text has [[GracefulLoser him congratulating you on your victory,]] whereas he himself merely says "I await my execution" and hangs his head, totally dejected and resigned to his death. These also play when they're caught spying, which takes the edge off a bit, but they can still be quite emotional. Other particularly tragic ones include.
** We find Willem Van Oranje keening over his desk, praying to God for mercy on him and his people. This one hits especially hard because the voice actor does a very good job expressing his sadness; the guy sounds like he's about to burst into tears at any moment.
*** Even sadder if you know that these were reportedly his actual final words after being shot by an assassin.

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* When you declare war, most of the leaders react with some variation of "bring it on". And then there's Darius of Persia, who recoils in shock, accompanied by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXfq8BL36o8 the saddest war theme in the game]], as if he knows he has no way of winning. It's a bit of a contrast with his arrogant behavior before that point. It doesn't get any better if you're ''playing'' as Persia, either. Though they're no slouches at war, their bonuses are more focused around trade, culture, and golden ages. If you were going for a more peaceful victory condition but outside circumstances pushed you into war, Darius' theme can make you wonder [[HeelRealization whether something in your strategy has gone horribly wrong]].
* In ''Civ V'', the player gets to see unique "defeat" scenes for each civilization when you wipe them off the map, in which the civs' leaders react to their defeat and the loss of their empire. Some are stoic, some are angry and vengeful, aand and some just... break down. (These also play when they're caught spying, which takes the edge off a bit, but they can still be quite emotional.) Many of these are appropriately tragic as the leaders grieve for their losses, plus several of them have burning sounds and the sounds of screaming in the background and quite a few strongly imply (and in some cases outright state) that the leaders are about to be executed (and are well aware of this).
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their impending execution. In some cases this is especially so if one can appreciate the BilingualBonus, as many cases, what the leader is actually saying doesn't always line up with what the text gives you. For example, you're given, and [[BilingualBonus if you know the language they're speaking]] the moments tend to become that much sadder for it. Particularly tragic examples include:
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Genghis Khan's text has [[GracefulLoser him congratulating you on your victory,]] whereas he himself merely says "I await my execution" and hangs his head, totally dejected and resigned to his death. These also play when they're caught spying, which takes the edge off a bit, but they can still be quite emotional. Other particularly tragic ones include.
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** We find Willem Van Oranje keening over his desk, praying to God for mercy on him and his people. This one hits especially hard because These were reportedly his actual final words after being shot by an assassin, and the voice actor does a very good job expressing his deserves props for how well he expressed the sadness; the guy sounds like he's about to burst into tears at any moment.
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** Pacal of the Mayans spends much of his time claiming that his shamans have foreseen the apocalypse and that's it's coming soon. When you wipe him out, he falls to his knees and realizes that ''you'' are the cataclysm, [[YouBastard which has brought destruction to his lands and death to his people.]] He refers to you as "the path to the black storm," and says that with you comes the "pain which is always hot." Again, while the sounds of burning play in the background.

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** Pacal of the Mayans spends much of his time claiming that his shamans have foreseen the apocalypse and that's that it's coming soon. When you wipe him out, he falls to his knees and realizes that ''you'' are the cataclysm, [[YouBastard which has brought destruction to his lands and death to his people.]] He refers to you as "the path to the black storm," and says that with you comes the "pain which is always hot." Again, while the sounds of burning play in the background.



** When you declare war, most of the leaders react with some variation of "bring it on". And then there's Darius of Persia, who recoils in shock, accompanied by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXfq8BL36o8 the saddest war theme in the game]], as if he knows he has no way of winning. It's a bit of a contrast with his arrogant behavior before that point.
*** It doesn't get any better if you're ''playing'' as Persia, either. Though they're no slouches at war, their bonuses are more focused around trade, culture, and golden ages. If you were going for a more peaceful victory condition but outside circumstances pushed you into war, Darius' theme can make you wonder [[HeelRealization whether something in your strategy has gone horribly wrong]].



** After conquering The United States, Theodore Roosevelt congratulates you with the most defeated tone in his voice, making it seem like admitting defeat is the most painful thing he's ever done
** After you defeat France, Catherine de Medici calmly [[GracefulLoser accepts her defeat]] and [[FaceDeathWithDignity possible death]]. "I have lived long enough to know when I am defeated. Carry on." Even sadder if you know that, because she left long enough, Catherine outlived her husband and most of her children.

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** After you defeat France, Catherine de Medici calmly [[GracefulLoser accepts her defeat]] and [[FaceDeathWithDignity possible death]]. "I have lived long enough to know when I am defeated. Carry on." Even sadder if you know that, because she left long enough, Catherine outlived her husband and most of her children.



* Speaking of ''Civ VI'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnSyocyljzY Scythia's theme music]] stands out from the other civs' because even at its most powerful, there's a real sense of melancholy to it. Kind of underscores the fact that there isn't a Scythia anymore.

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* Speaking of ''Civ VI'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnSyocyljzY Scythia's theme music]] stands out from the other civs' because even at its most powerful, there's a real sense of melancholy to it. This also goes for the other two themes that can be heard during Scythian gameplay; neither of those are based from any surviving music, simply being labelled as "Duduk Improv 1" and "Duduk Improv 2" respectively. Kind of underscores the fact that there isn't a Scythia anymore.


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* ''Gathering Storm'' adds flooding mechanics to ''Civ VI''. As civilizations add pollution in the air, the ice caps will start melting and sea levels will rise; tiles that are too low are slowly submerged in water. While it is possible to build flood barriers to prevent this, and semi-flooded tiles surrounded by a barrier can be repaired, it is always disheartening if you simply don't get the barrier done in time before the tile is swallowed up whole (at which point it cannot be recovered). Even Wonders and/or Districts and all the Great Works held within could be lost forever this way. (That said, settlers and cities will always see which tiles would be at risk of flooding, so good city planning can lessen the tragedy somewhat).
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* Speaking of ''Civ VI'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnSyocyljzY Scythia's theme music]] stands out from the other civs' because even at its most powerful, there's a real sense of melancholy to it. Kind of underscores the fact that there isn't a Scythia anymore. Fuck those ossetians.

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* Speaking of ''Civ VI'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnSyocyljzY Scythia's theme music]] stands out from the other civs' because even at its most powerful, there's a real sense of melancholy to it. Kind of underscores the fact that there isn't a Scythia anymore. Fuck those ossetians.
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* Speaking of ''Civ VI'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnSyocyljzY Scythia's theme music]] stands out from the other civs' because even at its most powerful, there's a real sense of melancholy to it. Kind of underscores the fact that there isn't a Scythia anymore.

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* Speaking of ''Civ VI'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnSyocyljzY Scythia's theme music]] stands out from the other civs' because even at its most powerful, there's a real sense of melancholy to it. Kind of underscores the fact that there isn't a Scythia anymore. Fuck those ossetians.
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** Doesn't get any less heart-wrenching in the intro for the Rise and Fall DLC, with the Father eventually succumbing to the Black Death all while poignantly talking about how just one disaster can unravel a great people. Although, like the base game it swiftly rebounds into heartwarming.
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** After you defeat France, Catherine de Medici calmly [[GracefulLoser accepts her defeat]] and [[FaceDeathWithDignity possible death]]. "I have lived long enough to know when I am defeated. Carry on." Even sadder if you know that, because she left long enough, Catherine outlived her husband and most of her children.
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** All those scenes are consolidated by a tiny detail. What's the text of the only dialog box you can click? Goodbye.
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** After conquering The United States, Theodore Roosevelt congratulates you with the most defeated tone in his voice, making it seem like admitting defeat is the most painful thing he's ever done
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* During the intro cinematic of ''Civ VI'', we are treated to the story of a pair of seemingly immortal father and daughter. For most of the cinematic, we get to see the father as he joins various war campaigns throughout the ages, eventually meeting his end during a air battle during World War 2. The way the windows in his cockpit shatter and the camera pan down to a picture of his daughter is a heartbreaking sight to see

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* Civ VI once again brings back the animated and voiced defeat scenes, and with the far more expressive and animated leaders, they are even more of a TearJerker than ever.
** Much like Willem Van Oranje in Civ V, a defeated Pedro II says his actual last words: "May God grant me these last wishes; peace and prosperity for Brazil."

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* Civ VI ''Civ VI'' once again brings back the animated and voiced defeat scenes, and with the far more expressive and animated leaders, they are even more of a TearJerker than ever.
** Much like Willem Van Oranje in Civ V, ''Civ V'', a defeated Pedro II says his actual last words: "May God grant me these last wishes; peace and prosperity for Brazil."


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* Speaking of ''Civ VI'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnSyocyljzY Scythia's theme music]] stands out from the other civs' because even at its most powerful, there's a real sense of melancholy to it. Kind of underscores the fact that there isn't a Scythia anymore.
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* Civ VI once again brings back the animated and voiced defeat scenes, and with the far more expressive and animated leaders, they are even more of a TearJerker than ever.
** Much like Willem Van Oranje in Civ V, a defeated Pedro II says his actual last words: "May God grant me these last wishes; peace and prosperity for Brazil."
** Montezuma of all people sounds truly heartbroken when he is defeated, asking his gods for forgiveness that he was not strong enough to serve them.
** After you defeat Spain, the [[BreakTheHaughty normally haughty and self-righteous Phillip II]] staggers, drops his sword in shock, raises his hand to the heavens and asks, "Why, Lord? Why have you abandoned us?"
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* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions--but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode. This comment by Mikuro sums it all up:

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* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II ''Civ II'' game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions--but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode. This comment by Mikuro sums it all up:
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** In some cases this is especially so if one can appreciate the BilingualBonus, as what the leader is actually saying doesn't always line up with what the text gives you - for example, Genghis Khan's text has [[GracefulLoser him congratulating you on your victory,]] whereas he himself merely says "I await my execution" and hangs his head, totally dejected and resigned to his death. These also play when they're caught spying, which takes the edge off a bit, but they can still be quite emotional. Other particularly tragic ones include.
** We find Willem Van Oranje keening over his desk, praying to God for mercy on him and his people. This one hits especially hard because the voice actor does a very good job expressing his sadness - the guy sounds like he's about to burst into tears at any moment.

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** In some cases this is especially so if one can appreciate the BilingualBonus, as what the leader is actually saying doesn't always line up with what the text gives you - for you. For example, Genghis Khan's text has [[GracefulLoser him congratulating you on your victory,]] whereas he himself merely says "I await my execution" and hangs his head, totally dejected and resigned to his death. These also play when they're caught spying, which takes the edge off a bit, but they can still be quite emotional. Other particularly tragic ones include.
** We find Willem Van Oranje keening over his desk, praying to God for mercy on him and his people. This one hits especially hard because the voice actor does a very good job expressing his sadness - sadness; the guy sounds like he's about to burst into tears at any moment.



* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions - but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode. This comment by Mikuro sums it all up:

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* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions - but proportions--but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode. This comment by Mikuro sums it all up:

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* In Civ V, the player gets to see unique "defeat" scenes for each civilization when you wipe them off the map, in which the civs' leaders react to their defeat and the loss of their empire. Some are stoic, some are angry and vengeful, aand some just... break down. Many of these are appropriately tragic as the leaders grieve for their losses, plus several of them have burning sounds and the sounds of screaming in the background and quite a few strongly imply (and in some cases outright state) that the leaders are about to be executed (and are well aware of this). In some cases this is especially so if one can appreciate the BilingualBonus, as what the leader is actually saying doesn't always line up with what the text gives you - for example, Genghis Khan's text has [[GracefulLoser him congratulating you on your victory,]] whereas he himself merely says "I await my execution" and hangs his head, totally dejected and resigned to his death. These also play when they're caught spying, which takes the edge off a bit, but they can still be quite emotional. Other particularly tragic ones include.

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* In Civ V, ''Civ V'', the player gets to see unique "defeat" scenes for each civilization when you wipe them off the map, in which the civs' leaders react to their defeat and the loss of their empire. Some are stoic, some are angry and vengeful, aand some just... break down. Many of these are appropriately tragic as the leaders grieve for their losses, plus several of them have burning sounds and the sounds of screaming in the background and quite a few strongly imply (and in some cases outright state) that the leaders are about to be executed (and are well aware of this). this).
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In some cases this is especially so if one can appreciate the BilingualBonus, as what the leader is actually saying doesn't always line up with what the text gives you - for example, Genghis Khan's text has [[GracefulLoser him congratulating you on your victory,]] whereas he himself merely says "I await my execution" and hangs his head, totally dejected and resigned to his death. These also play when they're caught spying, which takes the edge off a bit, but they can still be quite emotional. Other particularly tragic ones include.



** Pacal of the Mayans spends much of his time claiming that his shamans have forseen the apocalyse and that's it's coming soon. When you wipe him out, he falls to his knees and realizes that ''you'' are the cataclysm, [[YouBastard which has brought destruction to his lands and death to his people.]] He refers to you as "the path to the black storm," and says that with you comes the "pain which is always hot." Again, while the sounds of burning play in the background.

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** Pacal of the Mayans spends much of his time claiming that his shamans have forseen foreseen the apocalyse apocalypse and that's it's coming soon. When you wipe him out, he falls to his knees and realizes that ''you'' are the cataclysm, [[YouBastard which has brought destruction to his lands and death to his people.]] He refers to you as "the path to the black storm," and says that with you comes the "pain which is always hot." Again, while the sounds of burning play in the background.



* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions - but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode. This comment by Mikuro sums it all up:

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* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions - but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeded.succeeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode. This comment by Mikuro sums it all up:



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** Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon has some amusingly unhinged lines, but his defeat quote is just depressing: "It is over. Perhaps now I shall have peace, at last." Whatever's going on in his head can't be pleasant.
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** HeWhoFightsMonsters's at its finest.

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** HeWhoFightsMonsters's HeWhoFightsMonsters at its finest.
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*** It doesn't get any better if you're ''playing'' as Persia, either. Though they're no slouches at war, their bonuses are more focused around trade, culture, and golden ages. If you were going for a more peaceful victory condition but outside circumstances pushed you into war, Darius' theme can make you wonder [[HeelRealization whether something in your strategy has gone horribly wrong]].
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*** Even sadder if you know that these were reportedly his actual final words after being shot by an assassin.

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--> My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how.
** HeWhoFightsMonsters's at its finest.

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--> --> My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how.
** HeWhoFightsMonsters's at its finest.



-->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.]]

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-->[[spoiler: -->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.]]


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* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions - but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode.
This comment by Mikuro sums it all up:

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* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions - but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode.
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--> My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how.

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--> --> My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how.



-->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.]]

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-->[[spoiler: -->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.]]

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** HeWhoFightsMonsters's at its finest.



--> My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how.

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--> --> My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how.
** HeWhoFightsMonsters's at its finest.



-->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.]]

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-->[[spoiler: -->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.]]
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters at its finest.

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters ** HeWhoFightsMonsters's at its finest.



--> My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how.

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--> --> My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how.



-->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.]]

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-->[[spoiler: -->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.]]

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* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions - but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode. This comment by Mikuro sums it all up:

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* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions - but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode. WhamEpisode.
* HeWhoFightsMonsters at its finest.
This comment by Mikuro sums it all up:
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I done goofed.


-->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.[[/spoiler]]

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-->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.[[/spoiler]]
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** When you declare war, most of the leaders react with some variation of "bring it on". And then there's Darius of Persia, who recoils in shock, accompanied by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXfq8BL36o8 the saddest war theme in the game]], as if he knows he has no way of winning. It's a bit of a contrast with his arrogant behavior before that point.

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** When you declare war, most of the leaders react with some variation of "bring it on". And then there's Darius of Persia, who recoils in shock, accompanied by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXfq8BL36o8 the saddest war theme in the game]], as if he knows he has no way of winning. It's a bit of a contrast with his arrogant behavior before that point.point.
* Meta-wise, we have the story of the Eternal War also covered on the Awesome page. A player called Lycerius wrote about how he had continued his Civ II game for ten years as an experiment, the result being a CrapsackWorld of massive proportions - but he was determined to bring it all to an end. After sharing the save file with other players, some succeded. Then, one year after the original post, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/ came an update from Lycerius himself]] which served as a huge WhamEpisode. This comment by Mikuro sums it all up:
--> Look over the past year and reflect on yourself, Lycerius.

--> One year ago, you wanted peace and happiness for your people. You said:

--> My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how.

--> And now?

-->[[spoiler: what need would there be for my glorious Celtic Communist state to exist in a world at peace? How would I justify to the masses the need for brutal dictatorship and big brother’s watchful eye if there is no longer an external threat to protect them from? I couldn't. And so the external threat must be maintained of course.[[/spoiler]]

--> What ''happened'' to you, Lycerius? ''We trusted you!''
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** We find Willem Van Oranje keening over his desk, praying to God for mercy on him and his people. This one hits especially hard because the voice actor does a very good job expressing his sadness - the guy sounds like he's about the burst into tears at any moment.

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** We find Willem Van Oranje keening over his desk, praying to God for mercy on him and his people. This one hits especially hard because the voice actor does a very good job expressing his sadness - the guy sounds like he's about the to burst into tears at any moment.
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** Pacal of the Mayans spends much of his time claiming that his shamans have forseen the apocalyse and that's it's coming soon. When you wipe him out, he falls to his knees and realizes that ''you'' are the cataclysm, [[YouBastard which has brought destruction to his lands and death to his people.]] He refers to you as "the path to the black storm," and says that with you comes the "pain which is always hot." Again, while the sounds of burning play in the background.

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** Pacal of the Mayans spends much of his time claiming that his shamans have forseen the apocalyse and that's it's coming soon. When you wipe him out, he falls to his knees and realizes that ''you'' are the cataclysm, [[YouBastard which has brought destruction to his lands and death to his people.]] He refers to you as "the path to the black storm," and says that with you comes the "pain which is always hot." Again, while the sounds of burning play in the background.background.
** When you declare war, most of the leaders react with some variation of "bring it on". And then there's Darius of Persia, who recoils in shock, accompanied by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXfq8BL36o8 the saddest war theme in the game]], as if he knows he has no way of winning. It's a bit of a contrast with his arrogant behavior before that point.
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* In Civ V, the player gets to see unique "defeat" scenes for each civilization when you wipe them off the map, in which the civs' leaders react to their defeat and the loss of their empire. Some are stoic, some are angry and vengeful, aand some just... break down. Many of these are appropriately tragic as the leaders grieve for their losses, plus several of them have burning sounds and the sounds of screaming in the background and quite a few strongly imply (and in some cases outright state) that the leaders are about to be executed (and are well aware of this). In some cases this is especially so if one can appreciate the BilingualBonus, as what the leader is actually saying doesn't always line up with what the text gives you - for example, Genghis Khan's text has [[GracefulLoser him congratulating you on your victory,]] whereas he himself merely says "I await my execution" and hangs his head, totally dejected and resigned to his death. These also play when they're caught spying, which takes the edge off a bit, but they can still be quite emotional. Other particularly tragic ones include.
** We find Willem Van Oranje keening over his desk, praying to God for mercy on him and his people. This one hits especially hard because the voice actor does a very good job expressing his sadness - the guy sounds like he's about the burst into tears at any moment.
** Shaka of the Zulu, surprisingly. Upon being defeated, the Civ series' quintessential ProudWarriorRaceGuy throws down his weapons and breaks down, [[FatherToHisMen for if his soldiers have failed then that must mean that he, in turn, has failed them.]]
** Pacal of the Mayans spends much of his time claiming that his shamans have forseen the apocalyse and that's it's coming soon. When you wipe him out, he falls to his knees and realizes that ''you'' are the cataclysm, [[YouBastard which has brought destruction to his lands and death to his people.]] He refers to you as "the path to the black storm," and says that with you comes the "pain which is always hot." Again, while the sounds of burning play in the background.

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