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** From a meta standpoint, this was also during a time when the original SNK was on the verge of bankruptcy, with their doors closing for good by 2001. Fortunately, they'd rebound eventually with ''KOF 2003'' as SNK Playmore... and then they nearly go bankrupt ''again'' after ''XIII'' only to be reborn once more as the original SNK with ''XIV''. Talk about a rough history.
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[[caption-width-right:350:And [[RetGone no one will ever know]] what he did or [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed]] other than her...]]
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* The Orochi team's motivations for carrying out their lord's will are heavily called into question in ''XV'', especially with their Awakened selves' story and interactions. It starts when a man, who is steadily revealed to be none other than a resurrected Goenitz, receives a call from Yashiro about how the Four Heavenly Kings have suddenly come back to life. Goenitz correctly deduces that Yashiro is undergoing emotional turmoil over both his resurrection and his purpose, as it's clear that he and his teammates have grown to enjoy aspects of human life even though their ultimate mission will lead to humanity's destruction. Though the conversation ultimately ends with Goenitz and Yashiro agreeing that their destiny is forever tied to Orochi and their duty to the clan is still important, the post-credits scene of the Awakened Orochi team's questionably-canon ending implies that even if they succeed in their mission, the three [[AndThenWhat are left]] [[VictoryIsBoring somewhat empty]] [[TragicVillain inside]] due to the loss of human culture.
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** This was rectified, however, in ''XV'' where both are participants in the events of the storyline, as shown by the fact that they have their own teams now. They also have their own unique Story Mode cutscene and musical theme for rival battles. And as expected, their canon reunion in the ''KOF'' timeline is not a pleasant one, as Rock swears to make Geese pay for [[MurderByInaction abandoning his own wife and Rock's mother Marie to die]]. Geese's response is to note how coincidental their meeting is and then solemnly remark that maybe it's his fate to meet his end (in this timeline at least) at the hands of his own flesh and blood, indicating that perhaps after all this time and how far he's come in his never-ending quest for more power, he still did care for Marie on some level.
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** This was rectified, however, rectified in ''XV'' where both are participants by virtue of Rock now canonically taking part in the events of the storyline, story as well as Geese, as shown by the fact that they both have their own teams now.teams. They also have their own unique Story Mode cutscene and musical theme for rival battles. And as expected, their canon reunion in the ''KOF'' timeline is not a pleasant one, as Rock swears to make Geese pay for [[MurderByInaction abandoning his own wife and Rock's mother Marie to die]]. Geese's response is to snidely note how coincidental their meeting is and then solemnly suddenly remark in a rather cathartic and somber manner that maybe it's [[LaserGuidedKarma his fate fate]] to meet his end (in this timeline at least) at the hands of his own flesh and blood, indicating that perhaps after all this time and how far he's come in his never-ending quest for more absolute power, he Geese still did care for Marie on some level.
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** This was rectified, however, in ''XV'' where both are participants in the events of the storyline, as shown by the fact that they have their own teams now. They also have their own unique Story Mode cutscene and musical theme for rival battles. And as expected, their canon reunion in the ''KOF'' timeline is not a pleasant one, as Rock swears to make Geese pay for [[MurderByInaction abandoning his own wife and Rock's mother Marie to die]]. Geese's response is to note how coincidental their meeting is and then solemnly remark that maybe it's his fate to meet his end (in this timeline at least) at the hands of his own flesh and blood, indicating that perhaps on some level he still did care for Marie after all this time.
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** This was rectified, however, in ''XV'' where both are participants in the events of the storyline, as shown by the fact that they have their own teams now. They also have their own unique Story Mode cutscene and musical theme for rival battles. And as expected, their canon reunion in the ''KOF'' timeline is not a pleasant one, as Rock swears to make Geese pay for [[MurderByInaction abandoning his own wife and Rock's mother Marie to die]]. Geese's response is to note how coincidental their meeting is and then solemnly remark that maybe it's his fate to meet his end (in this timeline at least) at the hands of his own flesh and blood, indicating that perhaps on some level after all this time and how far he's come in his never-ending quest for more power, he still did care for Marie after all this time.on some level.
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** This was rectified, however, in ''XV'' where both are participants in the events of the storyline, as shown by the fact that they have their own teams now. They also have their own unique Story Mode cutscene and musical theme for rival battles. And as expected, their canon reunion in the ''KOF'' timeline is not a pleasant one, as Rock swears to make Geese pay for [[MurderByInaction abandoning his own wife and Rock's mother Marie to die]]. Geese's response is to note how coincidental their meeting is and then solemnly remark that maybe it's his fate to meet his end (in this timeline at least) at the hands of his own flesh and blood, indicating that perhaps on some level he still did care for Marie after all this time.
--> '''Rock:''' You abandoned my mother...I will have my revenge!\\
'''Geese:''' Quite a coincidence meeting you here. Perhaps this, too, is fate.
--> '''Rock:''' You abandoned my mother...I will have my revenge!\\
'''Geese:''' Quite a coincidence meeting you here. Perhaps this, too, is fate.
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* Nameless's fate in ''KOF All-Star'''s 2002 Story ending. Knowing full well that [[HeroicSacrifice he'll most likely die]] aborting Igniz's attempted self-destruction of the Deimos base to destroy the world, he rips off his PowerLimiter and does it anyway. He then quietly gives both his thanks and apologies to Isolde as he [[TogetherInDeath succumbs to his wounds]].
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* Nameless's fate in ''KOF All-Star'''s 2002 Story ending. Knowing full well that [[HeroicSacrifice he'll most likely die]] aborting Igniz's attempted self-destruction of the Deimos base to destroy and subsequent destruction of the world, he rips off his PowerLimiter and does it anyway. He then quietly gives both his thanks and apologies to Isolde as he [[TogetherInDeath succumbs to his wounds]]. The music accompanying it does ''not'' help.
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* Nameless's fate in ''KOF All-Star'''s 2002 Story ending. Knowing full well that [[HeroicSacrifice he'll most likely die]] aborting Igniz's attempted self-destruction of the Deimos base to destroy the world, he rips off his PowerLimiter and does it anyway. He then quietly gives both his thanks and apologies to Isolde as he [[TogetherInDeath succumbs to his wounds]].
