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* Imagine this: you are a lonely kid who is forced to act way more mature than you actually are and everyone criticizes you for not acting as they want you to and can't wait for you to "become your real self". Then one day someone comes along who actually treats you well, doesn't dismiss your capabilities and treats you as an actual person instead of a cheap version of the "real" you. You understandably become very attached to this person and would do ''[[UndyingLoyalty anything]]'' for their sake. [[spoiler: Then you find it out it is all a lie, that said person you care for and thought cared for you ''never even saw you as a person'' and, in fact, you are ''are'' a cheap copy of the real person. And you find that out when said person ''makes you destroy an entire town'' killing thousands of people.]] Thinking of it this way [[spoiler: makes the whole situation with Van and Luke a horrifying and cruel situation for such a young child to go through.]]
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** The direct aftermath of [[spoiler: Akzeriuth]] is bad, especially if you pay attention to the voice acting (and in the anime the animation makes it more clear): Luke is having a full on breakdown and considering later revelations [[spoiler: like him actually being seven]] it's obvious that he needs some kind of support...however, his NoSocialSkills and the freak out he's going through means everyone instead walks away from him. Leaving him alone except for Mieu...
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** [[spoiler: Tear's voice when she tells Luke he has to come home is worse when you can clearly hear in her voice that she's utterly distraught, considering she sounds like she's been crying, but there's not a tear on her face]].
** Her treatment of Luke hurts when you realise ''why'' she's the harshest to him of your other five members- [[spoiler: Anise is constantly trying to make the party hate traitors so they'll hate ''her'']].
** You also meet his mother later in the game. It's as depressing as you might imagine.
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* A small blink-and-you'll-miss-it around Belkend. Guy separates himself from the party, saying that he's going back [[spoiler: to where Luke is]]. Asch's initial reaction is "Guy... why?". It's subtle, but there's a definite ''hurt'' note in his voice at that moment. Asch is hurt by the fact that, someone whom he considered a friend of his, was actually choosing [[spoiler: the replica]].
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* A small blink-and-you'll-miss-it around Belkend. Guy separates himself from the party, saying that he's going back [[spoiler: to where Luke is]]. Asch's initial reaction is "Guy... why?". It's subtle, but there's a definite ''hurt'' note in his voice at that moment. Asch is hurt by the fact that, someone whom he considered a friend of his, was actually choosing [[spoiler: the replica]].replica]].
* Hell, the entire game from about the time Akzeriuth is destroyed to the end is just one big TearJerker after another, with little relenting between it all unless you're doing the sidequests. You could make a solid argument the game gave you Jade just to mitigate the emotional assault the game wreaks on you. To elaborate, if you don't do the sidequests, [[spoiler: After Azkeriuth is destroyed and Luke is totally abandoned by his friends, you find out Mohs is still trying to push the war by kidnapping Ion and Natalia. Once you rescue them, you then find out Guy wanted to kill Luke all along. Then you learn St Binah is sinking and it's entirely possible soon after that that you can kill Noelle's brother, Ginji. After a small breather, you find out Natalia isn't even the real princess and Anise is fired from protecting Ion, who she is in love with. When you get to Baticul, Natalia is rejected by her father and you are run out of the capital (but the townspeople love her enough to protect her with their lives, so this isn't exactly cheerful). Not too long after they make up, though, is the utter ''massacre'' at Sheridan and you find out that Tear is dying, which there's literally nothing anyone can do about. You kill the God-Genreals and Van and all is sunshine and bloody rainbows, but Van's sword's been nicked and Luke has zero self worth right now because the only person in the manor who likes him is his mother. Immediately after learning that none of the God-Generals died, Frings is killed BY MOHS, and as noted above this is even worse if you do his sidequest. Then the deadly Miasma is back, you learn Anise was blackmailed into betraying you, and Ion straight up dies, but at least Tear isn't dying anymore! Then you find out Largo is Natalia's father, but don't tell her, and then Sync shows up to be an ass and remind you Ion is dead! And you murder Arietta and you feel like you basically put someone out of their misery more than anything. THEN, after Luke has obtained self worth, he is essentially forced into sacrificing his life and he stains his hands with more blood. Then Natalia learns the truth of who her father is, Van is brought back, and you have to kill Natalia's father! Oh, and after that, you find out the Score of Prosperoty has foretold destruction all along. Then you murder Legretta which is hard on Tear, and then Asch dies! And then you kill Van, and Luke has to die for real this time! Almost nothing ''happy'' happens between all of that!]] This game doesn't want you to be happy, and I didn't even mention everything soul-crushing, like [[spoiler: the fact that Mohs made replicas of Guy's older sister, of Iemon, and General Frings just to be an asshole, and the piss-poor treatment of replicas, and the entire thing with Professor Nebilim]].
* Hell, the entire game from about the time Akzeriuth is destroyed to the end is just one big TearJerker after another, with little relenting between it all unless you're doing the sidequests. You could make a solid argument the game gave you Jade just to mitigate the emotional assault the game wreaks on you. To elaborate, if you don't do the sidequests, [[spoiler: After Azkeriuth is destroyed and Luke is totally abandoned by his friends, you find out Mohs is still trying to push the war by kidnapping Ion and Natalia. Once you rescue them, you then find out Guy wanted to kill Luke all along. Then you learn St Binah is sinking and it's entirely possible soon after that that you can kill Noelle's brother, Ginji. After a small breather, you find out Natalia isn't even the real princess and Anise is fired from protecting Ion, who she is in love with. When you get to Baticul, Natalia is rejected by her father and you are run out of the capital (but the townspeople love her enough to protect her with their lives, so this isn't exactly cheerful). Not too long after they make up, though, is the utter ''massacre'' at Sheridan and you find out that Tear is dying, which there's literally nothing anyone can do about. You kill the God-Genreals and Van and all is sunshine and bloody rainbows, but Van's sword's been nicked and Luke has zero self worth right now because the only person in the manor who likes him is his mother. Immediately after learning that none of the God-Generals died, Frings is killed BY MOHS, and as noted above this is even worse if you do his sidequest. Then the deadly Miasma is back, you learn Anise was blackmailed into betraying you, and Ion straight up dies, but at least Tear isn't dying anymore! Then you find out Largo is Natalia's father, but don't tell her, and then Sync shows up to be an ass and remind you Ion is dead! And you murder Arietta and you feel like you basically put someone out of their misery more than anything. THEN, after Luke has obtained self worth, he is essentially forced into sacrificing his life and he stains his hands with more blood. Then Natalia learns the truth of who her father is, Van is brought back, and you have to kill Natalia's father! Oh, and after that, you find out the Score of Prosperoty has foretold destruction all along. Then you murder Legretta which is hard on Tear, and then Asch dies! And then you kill Van, and Luke has to die for real this time! Almost nothing ''happy'' happens between all of that!]] This game doesn't want you to be happy, and I didn't even mention everything soul-crushing, like [[spoiler: the fact that Mohs made replicas of Guy's older sister, of Iemon, and General Frings just to be an asshole, and the piss-poor treatment of replicas, and the entire thing with Professor Nebilim]].
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** How Tear acts as [[spoiler: Luke is about to make his sacrifice]] also qualifies when you consider how much she's usually in control of her emotions. [[spoiler: Despite promising Luke that she wouldn't interfere with his decision, when the moment actually comes her resolve breaks and she runs to try and stop him such that Guy, who incidentally was easily the most vocally opposed to Luke sacrificing himself, actually has to hold her back]]. It's really telling how important Luke has become to Tear that she would [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness lose control of herself so much despite having said before she would accept his decision]].
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***[[TakeAThirdOption There's also the third interpretation]] where [[spoiler:Asch and Luke have become one person. Both Lukes are able to live but have lost their individuality]].
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* There is a flashback in the anime where after being kidnapped to Choral Castle [[spoiler:Asch ventures home to his parents, only to be shooed away by the guards. He climbs up a fence wall to discover he was replaced by replica Luke]]. His heart just breaks.breaks.
* A small blink-and-you'll-miss-it around Belkend. Guy separates himself from the party, saying that he's going back [[spoiler: to where Luke is]]. Asch's initial reaction is "Guy... why?". It's subtle, but there's a definite ''hurt'' note in his voice at that moment. Asch is hurt by the fact that, someone whom he considered a friend of his, was actually choosing [[spoiler: the replica]].
* A small blink-and-you'll-miss-it around Belkend. Guy separates himself from the party, saying that he's going back [[spoiler: to where Luke is]]. Asch's initial reaction is "Guy... why?". It's subtle, but there's a definite ''hurt'' note in his voice at that moment. Asch is hurt by the fact that, someone whom he considered a friend of his, was actually choosing [[spoiler: the replica]].
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** '''Luke:''' Tear told me not to keep anything from her anymore. Yeah, I guess. Now
that she's learned my biggest secret, I don't have anything...well, only one thing to hide from her. Thanks, Tear.
that she's learned my biggest secret, I don't have anything...well, only one thing to hide from her. Thanks, Tear.
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** '''Luke:''' Tear told me not to keep anything from her anymore. Yeah, I guess. Now
Now that she's learned my biggest secret, I don't have anything...well, only one thing to hide from her. Thanks, Tear.
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that she's learned my biggest secret, I don't have anything...well, only one
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thing to hide from her. Thanks, Tear.
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that she's learned my biggest secret, I don't have anything...well, only one
one thing to hide from her. Thanks, Tear.Tear.
* There is a flashback in the anime where after being kidnapped to Choral Castle [[spoiler:Asch ventures home to his parents, only to be shooed away by the guards. He climbs up a fence wall to discover he was replaced by replica Luke]]. His heart just breaks.
* There is a flashback in the anime where after being kidnapped to Choral Castle [[spoiler:Asch ventures home to his parents, only to be shooed away by the guards. He climbs up a fence wall to discover he was replaced by replica Luke]]. His heart just breaks.
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* The journal entries from Luke detailing his dilemna over [[spoiler: his impending death]].
** '''Luke:''' Tear told me not to keep anything from her anymore. Yeah, I guess. Now
that she's learned my biggest secret, I don't have anything...well, only one
thing to hide from her. Thanks, Tear.
* The journal entries from Luke detailing his dilemna over [[spoiler: his impending death]].
** '''Luke:''' Tear told me not to keep anything from her anymore. Yeah, I guess. Now
that she's learned my biggest secret, I don't have anything...well, only one
thing to hide from her. Thanks, Tear.
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* The ending. [[spoiler:First with "You have to come home. You have to! I'll be waiting... always" and then the happy tears after the credits.]]
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* Mingled NightmareFuel and this, but the fact that there are people who just accept deaths and especially the war because 'the Score said it would happen'.
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* Mingled NightmareFuel and this, but the fact that there are people who just accept deaths and especially the war because 'the Score said it would happen'.happen'.
* Luke's journal entry from the night before the final battle. [[spoiler: He almost decides to tell Tear that he loves her, but the fact that he doesn't have much time left stops him believing that all he'll do by telling her is break her heart when he does die.]]
** [[spoiler: And then she tells him she loves him right before she's forced to leave knowing that it's overwhelmingly likely that he'll die releasing Lorelei and she'll ever see him again.]]
* Luke's journal entry from the night before the final battle. [[spoiler: He almost decides to tell Tear that he loves her, but the fact that he doesn't have much time left stops him believing that all he'll do by telling her is break her heart when he does die.]]
** [[spoiler: And then she tells him she loves him right before she's forced to leave knowing that it's overwhelmingly likely that he'll die releasing Lorelei and she'll ever see him again.]]
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* Oh yeah, it's also on NightmareFuel page, but the kid in Akzeriuth who ''dies by sinking into the mud''.
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* Oh yeah, it's also on NightmareFuel page, but the kid in Akzeriuth who ''dies by sinking into the mud''.mud''.
* Mingled NightmareFuel and this, but the fact that there are people who just accept deaths and especially the war because 'the Score said it would happen'.
* Mingled NightmareFuel and this, but the fact that there are people who just accept deaths and especially the war because 'the Score said it would happen'.
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** [[spoiler: Florian, another of Ion's replicas, is very heartwarming, specially in his relationship with Anise, but it can be quite the player punch seeing him acting like a child and using Ion's clothes, especially since, unlike [[{{Jerkass}} Sync]], you never forget he is just like Ion, just a lot more naïve.]]
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*** Even worse is the timing. [[spoiler:Luke finally realizes his own self-worth, and truly wants to live, and keep on living... and learns, righ at that moment, that he is going to die. Slowly, but inevitably, and before his time]].
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*** Even worse is the timing. [[spoiler:Luke finally realizes his own self-worth, and truly wants to live, and keep on living... and learns, righ right at that moment, that he is going to die. Slowly, but inevitably, and before his time]].
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* The death of [[spoiler:Arietta]] wasn't so bad when playing the game. In the anime, it was absolutely heartbreaking as [[spoiler:Arietta hallucinates Ion and her animal family with her, reaching out to them, and then dies at that moment. It's even sadder by the fact she died without ever knowing the Ion she knew and loved was already dead.]]
** [[spoiler:"You're the only Ion that matters to me."]] She's a real asshole to Luke after Akzeriuth, but when the chips are down, Anise is a good person. Guy also deserves a mention for one of his lines during the handful of introspective scenes he has with Luke in Aramis Springs: [[spoiler:"Replica or not, you're real to me."]]
** [[spoiler:"You're the only Ion that matters to me."]] She's a real asshole to Luke after Akzeriuth, but when the chips are down, Anise is a good person. Guy also deserves a mention for one of his lines during the handful of introspective scenes he has with Luke in Aramis Springs: [[spoiler:"Replica or not, you're real to me."]]
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* The death of [[spoiler:Arietta]] wasn't so bad when playing the game. [[spoiler:Arietta]]. In the anime, it was absolutely it's even ''more'' heartbreaking as [[spoiler:Arietta hallucinates Ion and her animal family with her, reaching out to them, and then dies at that moment. It's even sadder by the fact she died without ever knowing the Ion she knew and loved was already dead.]]
** * [[spoiler:"You're the only Ion that matters to me."]] She's a real asshole to Luke after Akzeriuth, but when the chips are down, Anise is a good person. Guy also deserves a mention for one of his lines during the handful of introspective scenes he has with Luke in Aramis Springs: [[spoiler:"Replica or not, you're real to me."]]
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* [[spoiler:Frings']] death. It's bad enough as mandated by the plotline, but you have the option of spending an entire long sidequest chain [[spoiler:getting him together with General Cecille.]] To have done all that work for them, and seen the honest joy [[spoiler:as they overcame the obstacle of being in opposite armies, to talk to Cecille who is ''so happy'' that she and Frings are going to be able to marry...]] it makes his death really hit that much harder.
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* [[spoiler:Frings']] death. It's bad enough as mandated by the plotline, but you have the option of spending an entire long sidequest chain [[spoiler:getting him together with General Cecille.]] To have done all that work for them, and seen the honest joy [[spoiler:as they overcame the obstacle of being in opposite armies, to talk to Cecille who is ''so happy'' that she and Frings are going to be able to marry...]] it makes his death really hit that much harder.harder.
* Oh yeah, it's also on NightmareFuel page, but the kid in Akzeriuth who ''dies by sinking into the mud''.
* Oh yeah, it's also on NightmareFuel page, but the kid in Akzeriuth who ''dies by sinking into the mud''.
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* The death of [[spoiler:Arietta]] wasn't so bad when playing the game. In the anime, it was absolutely heartbreaking as [[spoiler:Arietta hallucinates Ion and her animal family with her, reaching out to them, and then dies at that moment.]]
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* The death of [[spoiler:Arietta]] wasn't so bad when playing the game. In the anime, it was absolutely heartbreaking as [[spoiler:Arietta hallucinates Ion and her animal family with her, reaching out to them, and then dies at that moment. It's even sadder by the fact she died without ever knowing the Ion she knew and loved was already dead.]]
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*** Even worse is the timing. [[spoiler:Luke finally realizes his own self-worth, and truly wants to live, and keep on living... and learns, righ at that moment, that he is going to die. Slowly, but inevitably, and before his time]].
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* At Luke's lowest point he finds out [[spoiler:he's a [[CloningBlues clone]] and his childhood that he thought he forgot never happened., the person he respected and admired the most had been lying and deceiving him all along, he killed ''ten thousand'' people, everyone hates him, they prefer the original over him and the only person who might care is having her doubts.]] The sum of all this caused this troper to not only burst into tears, but somehow felt as if everyone around him hated him Luke's feeling of guilt hitting way to close to home.
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* At Luke's lowest point he finds out [[spoiler:he's a [[CloningBlues clone]] and his childhood that he thought he forgot never happened., the person he respected and admired the most had been lying and deceiving him all along, he killed ''ten thousand'' people, everyone hates him, they prefer the original over him and the only person who might care is having her doubts.]] The sum of all this caused this troper to not only burst into tears, but somehow felt as if everyone around him hated him Luke's feeling of guilt hitting way to close to home.]]
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** The part before the Tower that gets this troper each time is the conversation with Jade, who has just [[spoiler:proposed that Luke commit mass suicide, rather than Asch]]. Luke asks Jade if that's really what he thinks is best, expecting a 'yes'. Jade does say yes, and then...
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** The part before the Tower that gets this troper each time is the conversation with Jade, Jade before the Tower, who has just [[spoiler:proposed that Luke commit mass suicide, rather than Asch]]. Luke asks Jade if that's really what he thinks is best, expecting a 'yes'. Jade does say yes, and then...
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* [[spoiler:Frings']] death. It's bad enough as mandated by the plotline, but you have the option of spending an entire long sidequest chain [[spoiler:getting him together with General Cecille.]] To have done all that work for them, and seen the honest joy [[spoiler:as they overcame the obstacle of being in opposite armies, to talk to Cecille who is ''so happy'' that she and Frings are going to be able to marry...]] it makes his death really hit that much harder. This troper nearly had a HeroicBSOD upon realizing that it was for real.
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* [[spoiler:Frings']] death. It's bad enough as mandated by the plotline, but you have the option of spending an entire long sidequest chain [[spoiler:getting him together with General Cecille.]] To have done all that work for them, and seen the honest joy [[spoiler:as they overcame the obstacle of being in opposite armies, to talk to Cecille who is ''so happy'' that she and Frings are going to be able to marry...]] it makes his death really hit that much harder. This troper nearly had a HeroicBSOD upon realizing that it was for real.
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** [[spoiler: Ion's Memorial Service. Anise asks Tear to sing her Fonic Hymns, saying that Ion loved them, and the rest of the party convinces her that her songs can be a prayer to the departed. She agrees, even though she doesn't fully understand all of the parts of Yulia's hymn. Leads to a heartwarming moment, as Tear finishes singing, the voice of Ion thanks her and unlocks the Fifth Fonic Hymn: Judgment for Tear.]]
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*** Hearing Jade actually saying [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness "I'm sorry."]], even admitting that he is a "rather cold person" to Luke. [[WhamLine Never saw that one coming.]] Tears will be ''shed''.
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** [[spoiler:The scene when Tear confronts Luke about his condition and the following skit caused this troper to, no pun intended, tear up when Luke is afraid of being treated differently because of he's eventually going to disappear and Tear is angry at herself for being powerless to help Luke.]]
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** [[spoiler:The scene when Tear confronts Luke about his condition and the following skit caused this troper to, no pun intended, tear up skit: when Luke is afraid of being treated differently because of he's eventually going to disappear and Tear is angry at herself for being powerless to help Luke.]]
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** That ending actually affects this troper more than anything else she's played; [[spoiler:depending on how you interpret it, it's a big case of DownerEnding or BittersweetEnding because Luke ''dies.'' The contamination sidequest reveals will choke you up when Jade says the only things that will be left of Luke are his ''memories.'' It doesn't help that after the credits, everyone's happy (save for Jade, whose really ambigous expression can be interpreted as happy or not so much) and thinks it really IS Luke.]]
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** That ending actually affects this troper more than anything else she's played; ending, [[spoiler:depending on how you interpret it, it's a big case of DownerEnding or BittersweetEnding because Luke ''dies.'' The contamination sidequest reveals will choke you up when Jade says the only things that will be left of Luke are his ''memories.'' It doesn't help that after the credits, everyone's happy (save for Jade, whose really ambigous expression can be interpreted as happy or not so much) and thinks it really IS Luke.]]
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** [[spoiler:Asch's]] reveal is made even worse in the anime as you watch Luke [[spoiler: relive all the hints leading up to his shattered identity as a replica - being unable to regain his memories, Legretta calling him a defective thing - in the middle of a total [[HeroicBSOD meltdown]].
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** [[spoiler:Asch's]] reveal is made even worse in the anime as you watch Luke [[spoiler: relive all the hints leading up to his shattered identity as a replica - being unable to regain his memories, Legretta calling him a defective thing - in the middle of a total [[HeroicBSOD meltdown]].meltdown]]]].
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* Ion's death is enough to bring tears to even the most [[TheStoic stoic]] troper.
* Asch's death. After killing every soldier in front of him, he just collapses to the ground and with his last energy, gives Luke his last words.
--> Asch: It looks like I had a little trouble...the rest is up to you.
--> It's much more bloody in the anime though.
* Arietta's death in the anime, it brought tears to many viewer's eyes.
* Asch's death. After killing every soldier in front of him, he just collapses to the ground and with his last energy, gives Luke his last words.
--> Asch: It looks like I had a little trouble...the rest is up to you.
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* Arietta's death in the anime, it brought tears to many viewer's eyes.
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--> Legretta: [[spoiler: This happened because you civilians insisted on meddling where you don't belong.]]
--> Legretta: [[spoiler: This happened because you civilians insisted on meddling where you don't belong.]]
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* At Luke's lowest point he finds out [[spoiler:he's a [[CloningBlues clone]] and his childhood that he thought he forgot never happened., the person he respected and admired the most had been lying and deceiving him all along, he killed ''ten thousand'' people, everyone hates him, they prefer the original over him and the only person who might care is having her doubts.]] The incident at Sheridan sum of all this caused this troper to not only burst into tears, but somehow felt as if everyone around him hated him Luke's feeling of guilt hitting way to close to home.
** [[spoiler:Asch's]] reveal is made even worse in the anime as you watch Luke [[spoiler:where relive all the hints leading up to his shattered identity as a replica - being unable to regain his memories, Legretta calling him a defective thing - in the middle of a total [[HeroicBSOD meltdown]].
** The worst part is probably playing a second playthrough and knowing what's going to happen but not being able to do anything about it.
** If that part of Abyss makes you cry, then...well...here's hoping you didn't get attached to some of the other characters.
* [[spoiler:Ion's death]]. If you can believe it, it's even ''worse'' in the anime - at least in the game, [[spoiler:Mohs is right there for you - and theOracle Knights kill Iemon, Tamara party - to focus their UnstoppableRage upon. In the anime, he leaves without taking the chance to gloat, letting the event [[PlayerPunch hit you in the gut]] with all the force of a sledgehammer]].
* The Tower of Rem. This Tower's arguably worse than ''Symphonia''.
** Not just the Tower of Rem, but the scenes preceding andother citizens. Even Legretta seems sad at this tragedy...following it, as well. [[spoiler:Tear is heartbroken knowing that Luke is going to die and then Asch tells Luke to die in his place. After realizing that he wants to live, Luke finds out that he's actually dying; the hyperresonance created such a tremendous strain on his body that his fonons are separating and he will eventually fade out of existence. He doesn't want anyone to know because he's afraid that they'll treat him differently.]]
--> Legretta: ** The part before the Tower that gets this troper each time is the conversation with Jade, who has just [[spoiler:proposed that Luke commit mass suicide, rather than Asch]]. Luke asks Jade if that's really what he thinks is best, expecting a 'yes'. Jade does say yes, and then...
-->'''Jade:''' That's what I would say if I was an emperor, with a country and people to look after. As your [[TrueCompanions friend]]... I feel compelled to stop you.
*** Hearing Jade actually saying [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness "I'm sorry."]], even admitting that he is a "rather cold person" to Luke. [[WhamLine Never saw that one coming.]] Tears will be ''shed''.
* The ending. [[spoiler:First with "You have to come home. You have to! I'll be waiting... always" and then the happy tears after the credits.]]
** That ending actually affects this troper more than anything else she's played; [[spoiler:depending on how you interpret it, it's a big case of DownerEnding or BittersweetEnding because Luke ''dies.'' The contamination sidequest reveals will choke you up when Jade says the only things that will be left of Luke are his ''memories.'' It doesn't help that after the credits, everyone's happy (save for Jade, whose really ambigous expression can be interpreted as happy or not so much) and thinks it really IS Luke.]]
*** The ending is a different flavor of [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet]] depending on how you interpret [[spoiler:This happened the identity of the person- if it's 100% Asch, then Natalia gets her beloved back, but Tear doesn't. If it's 100% Luke or Luke's mind in Asch's body (the most common), Tear gets her beloved back while Natalia doesn't. Either way, his existence will serve as a constant reminder of what might have been to the girl who loses out- especially sad for Natalia if you went with the last one.]]
** Luke's turning point, especially the part where [[spoiler:he realizes everyone prefers the original over him. "It's no wonder everyone got sick of me and left me behind."]] The start of a nasty inferiority complex for Luke...and one that can resonate with some people - and so, Luke's decision and the resulting ImportantHaircut leads to a [[HeartwarmingMoments very touching moment]].
** [[spoiler: Asch's death. Even after spending the entire game blaming Luke for taking over his life, he STILL ends up sacrificing himself so that his replica can move forward. He finally accepts Luke for who he is, and puts his faith in him as he's dying ("Looks like I had a little trouble... The rest is... up to you.)]]
** [[spoiler:The scene when Tear confronts Luke about his condition and the following skit caused this troper to, no pun intended, tear up when Luke is afraid of being treated differently because of he's eventually going to disappear and Tear is angry at herself for being powerless to help Luke.]]
* "Class M and Class I's [[spoiler:first and final cooperation together.]]" Made all the worse in the anime.
* The death of [[spoiler:Arietta]] wasn't so bad when playing the game. In the anime, it was absolutely heartbreaking as [[spoiler:Arietta hallucinates Ion and her animal family with her, reaching out to them, and then dies at that moment.]]
** [[spoiler:"You're the only Ion that matters to me."]] She's a real asshole to Luke after Akzeriuth, but when the chips are down, Anise is a good person. Guy also deserves a mention for one of his lines during the handful of introspective scenes he has with Luke in Aramis Springs: [[spoiler:"Replica or not, you're real to me."]]
* [[spoiler:Frings']] death. It's bad enough as mandated by the plotline, but youcivilians insisted on meddling where you don't belong.]]have the option of spending an entire long sidequest chain [[spoiler:getting him together with General Cecille.]] To have done all that work for them, and seen the honest joy [[spoiler:as they overcame the obstacle of being in opposite armies, to talk to Cecille who is ''so happy'' that she and Frings are going to be able to marry...]] it makes his death really hit that much harder. This troper nearly had a HeroicBSOD upon realizing that it was for real.
** [[spoiler:Asch's]] reveal is made even worse in the anime as you watch Luke [[spoiler:
** The worst part is probably playing a second playthrough and knowing what's going to happen but not being able to do anything about it.
** If that part of Abyss makes you cry, then...well...here's hoping you didn't get attached to some of the other characters.
* [[spoiler:Ion's death]]. If you can believe it, it's even ''worse'' in the anime - at least in the game, [[spoiler:Mohs is right there for you - and the
* The Tower of Rem. This Tower's arguably worse than ''Symphonia''.
** Not just the Tower of Rem, but the scenes preceding and
-->'''Jade:''' That's what I would say if I was an emperor, with a country and people to look after. As your [[TrueCompanions friend]]... I feel compelled to stop you.
*** Hearing Jade actually saying [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness "I'm sorry."]], even admitting that he is a "rather cold person" to Luke. [[WhamLine Never saw that one coming.]] Tears will be ''shed''.
* The ending. [[spoiler:First with "You have to come home. You have to! I'll be waiting... always" and then the happy tears after the credits.]]
** That ending actually affects this troper more than anything else she's played; [[spoiler:depending on how you interpret it, it's a big case of DownerEnding or BittersweetEnding because Luke ''dies.'' The contamination sidequest reveals will choke you up when Jade says the only things that will be left of Luke are his ''memories.'' It doesn't help that after the credits, everyone's happy (save for Jade, whose really ambigous expression can be interpreted as happy or not so much) and thinks it really IS Luke.]]
*** The ending is a different flavor of [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet]] depending on how you interpret [[spoiler:
** Luke's turning point, especially the part where [[spoiler:he realizes everyone prefers the original over him. "It's no wonder everyone got sick of me and left me behind."]] The start of a nasty inferiority complex for Luke...and one that can resonate with some people - and so, Luke's decision and the resulting ImportantHaircut leads to a [[HeartwarmingMoments very touching moment]].
** [[spoiler: Asch's death. Even after spending the entire game blaming Luke for taking over his life, he STILL ends up sacrificing himself so that his replica can move forward. He finally accepts Luke for who he is, and puts his faith in him as he's dying ("Looks like I had a little trouble... The rest is... up to you.)]]
** [[spoiler:The scene when Tear confronts Luke about his condition and the following skit caused this troper to, no pun intended, tear up when Luke is afraid of being treated differently because of he's eventually going to disappear and Tear is angry at herself for being powerless to help Luke.]]
* "Class M and Class I's [[spoiler:first and final cooperation together.]]" Made all the worse in the anime.
* The death of [[spoiler:Arietta]] wasn't so bad when playing the game. In the anime, it was absolutely heartbreaking as [[spoiler:Arietta hallucinates Ion and her animal family with her, reaching out to them, and then dies at that moment.]]
** [[spoiler:"You're the only Ion that matters to me."]] She's a real asshole to Luke after Akzeriuth, but when the chips are down, Anise is a good person. Guy also deserves a mention for one of his lines during the handful of introspective scenes he has with Luke in Aramis Springs: [[spoiler:"Replica or not, you're real to me."]]
* [[spoiler:Frings']] death. It's bad enough as mandated by the plotline, but you
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* If you think that the guy who [[spoiler: came back was Asch]], then Tear's tears at the end can totally be considered this as she realized that [[spoiler: Luke really is dead, and she'll never see him again.]]
* The incident at Sheridan [[spoiler: where Legretta and the Oracle Knights kill Iemon, Tamara and other citizens. Even Legretta seems sad at this tragedy...]]
--> Legretta: [[spoiler: This happened because you civilians insisted on meddling where you don't belong.]]
* The incident at Sheridan [[spoiler: where Legretta and the Oracle Knights kill Iemon, Tamara and other citizens. Even Legretta seems sad at this tragedy...]]
--> Legretta: [[spoiler: This happened because you civilians insisted on meddling where you don't belong.]]
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*If you think that the guy who [spoiler: came back was Asch], then Tear's tears at the end can totally be considered this as she realized that [spoiler: Luke is gone forever, and she'll never see him again.]
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* Asch's death. After killing every soldier in front of him, he just collapses to the ground and with his last energy, gives Luke his last words.
--> Asch: It looks like I had a little trouble...the rest is up to you.
--> It's much more bloody in the anime though.
* Arietta's death in the anime, it brought tears to many viewer's eyes.
--> Asch: It looks like I had a little trouble...the rest is up to you.
--> It's much more bloody in the anime though.
* Arietta's death in the anime, it brought tears to many viewer's eyes.
