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*** To sum it up, Naomi reveals how she and Vamp should be dead, as they suffer from cancer. While she is doing this, she lets herself die from said cancer, all the while Otacon is weeping, helpless to stop her from killing herself, begging Naomi to not die. Naomi ignores this and pushes the Mk. III away from her, telling Snake, Otacon, and Raiden to go.
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*** To sum it up, Naomi reveals how she and Vamp should be dead, as they suffer she suffers from cancer.terminal cancer, and Vamp is basically a walking corpse kept going through his nanomachines. While she is doing this, she lets herself die from said cancer, all the while Otacon is weeping, helpless to stop her from killing herself, begging Naomi to not die. Naomi ignores this and pushes the Mk. III away from her, telling Snake, Otacon, and Raiden to go.
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** [[spoiler:It becomes harsher when it is revealed that EVA didn't die from her injuries but from a new strain of FOXDIE that Snake had contracted with, therefore, Snake essentially killed his mother. Even moreso, EVA knew about this but chooses to die with the knowledge that the Patriots' time is about to end.]]
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** [[spoiler:It becomes harsher when it is revealed that EVA didn't die from her injuries but from a new strain of FOXDIE that Snake had contracted with, therefore, Snake essentially killed his mother. Even moreso, EVA knew about this but chooses to die with the knowledge that the Patriots' time is about to end.]]]]
* Drebin's endgame musing to Otacon at Meryl's wedding that with the Patriots gone, the society will no longer be kept in check and warfare will continue to erupt as the result. As later spin-off VideoGame/MetalGearRising reveals, as long as there is injustice and unfairness, conflict will never cease to exist.
* Drebin's endgame musing to Otacon at Meryl's wedding that with the Patriots gone, the society will no longer be kept in check and warfare will continue to erupt as the result. As later spin-off VideoGame/MetalGearRising reveals, as long as there is injustice and unfairness, conflict will never cease to exist.
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** The secret tapes received after completing [=MGSV=] shed more light on Big Boss and Zero's relationship. After the attack on MSF, Zero used his remaining days of clarity to keep the comatose Snake as safe as humanely possible. The final time Zero sees Snake is when he visits him in Cypress, telling him his regrets while he thinks Snake can't hear. He sounds incredibly sad, and hopes Snake will recover and that he can forgive him. [[spoiler:After he leaves, the remaining seconds of silence on the tape are broken by the sound of Snake moving in bed, implying this was after he woke up (but before Venom) and heard everything.]] Consider how this parallels Big Boss discussing Zero with Old Snake while he's vegetative in a wheelchair.
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* The microwave room scene. The screen is split into section, one showing Snake and the other showing his allies fighting waves after waves of enemies. Already a dying old man, Snake slowly walk through the room, enduring the pain from the microwaves to the point the he is forced to crawl. Meanwhile, Johnny and Meryl continue fighting until they are run out of bullets, Raiden is overwhelmed too and the crew of the Missouri are outnumbered as well. Combined the the sad theme playing, one might expect that some of them to die but fortunately Snake succeeds.
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* The microwave room scene. The screen is split into section, one showing Snake and the other showing his allies fighting waves after waves of enemies. Already a dying old man, Snake slowly walk through the room, enduring the pain from the microwaves to the point the he is forced to crawl. Meanwhile, Johnny and Meryl continue fighting until they are run out of bullets, Raiden is overwhelmed too and the crew of the Missouri are outnumbered being attacked by numerous Dwarf Geckos and Metal Gear Rays as well. Combined the the sad theme playing, one might expect that some of them to die but fortunately Snake succeeds.succeeds.
* [[spoiler:Big Mama aka EVA's final moments in Act 3. While on the run from Raging Raven, EVA fell from her motorcycle and receives a similar injury that she had suffered 50 years ago during [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3 Operation Snake Eater]]. As she struggles to get up, she briefly sees Old Snake as Naked Snake, the man she never stop loving all these years. After reaching the docks and watched as Vamp throws the body Big Boss into a burned wrecked, EVA, in a futile attempt to rescue him, jumps into the fire and is then shot by Liquid. Big Mama eventually dies, in the arms of her son.]]
** [[spoiler:It becomes harsher when it is revealed that EVA didn't die from her injuries but from a new strain of FOXDIE that Snake had contracted with, therefore, Snake essentially killed his mother. Even moreso, EVA knew about this but chooses to die with the knowledge that the Patriots' time is about to end.]]
* [[spoiler:Big Mama aka EVA's final moments in Act 3. While on the run from Raging Raven, EVA fell from her motorcycle and receives a similar injury that she had suffered 50 years ago during [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3 Operation Snake Eater]]. As she struggles to get up, she briefly sees Old Snake as Naked Snake, the man she never stop loving all these years. After reaching the docks and watched as Vamp throws the body Big Boss into a burned wrecked, EVA, in a futile attempt to rescue him, jumps into the fire and is then shot by Liquid. Big Mama eventually dies, in the arms of her son.]]
** [[spoiler:It becomes harsher when it is revealed that EVA didn't die from her injuries but from a new strain of FOXDIE that Snake had contracted with, therefore, Snake essentially killed his mother. Even moreso, EVA knew about this but chooses to die with the knowledge that the Patriots' time is about to end.]]
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* The microwave room scene. The screen is split into section, one showing Snake and the other showing his allies fighting waves after waves of enemies. Already a dying old man, Snake slowly walk through the room, enduring the pain from the microwaves to the point the he is forced to crawl. Meanwhile, Johnny and Meryl continue fighting until they are run out of bullets, Raiden is overwhelmed too and the crew of the Missouri are outnumbered as well. Combined the the sad theme playing, one might aspect that some of them to die but fortunately Snake succeeds.
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* The microwave room scene. The screen is split into section, one showing Snake and the other showing his allies fighting waves after waves of enemies. Already a dying old man, Snake slowly walk through the room, enduring the pain from the microwaves to the point the he is forced to crawl. Meanwhile, Johnny and Meryl continue fighting until they are run out of bullets, Raiden is overwhelmed too and the crew of the Missouri are outnumbered as well. Combined the the sad theme playing, one might aspect expect that some of them to die but fortunately Snake succeeds.
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*** [[spoiler: And then when you realize it's a near perfect replica of Liquid's fight atop REX in [=MGS1=]...]]
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*** [[spoiler: And then when you realize it's a near perfect replica of Liquid's fight atop REX in [=MGS1=]...]]]]
* The microwave room scene. The screen is split into section, one showing Snake and the other showing his allies fighting waves after waves of enemies. Already a dying old man, Snake slowly walk through the room, enduring the pain from the microwaves to the point the he is forced to crawl. Meanwhile, Johnny and Meryl continue fighting until they are run out of bullets, Raiden is overwhelmed too and the crew of the Missouri are outnumbered as well. Combined the the sad theme playing, one might aspect that some of them to die but fortunately Snake succeeds.
* The microwave room scene. The screen is split into section, one showing Snake and the other showing his allies fighting waves after waves of enemies. Already a dying old man, Snake slowly walk through the room, enduring the pain from the microwaves to the point the he is forced to crawl. Meanwhile, Johnny and Meryl continue fighting until they are run out of bullets, Raiden is overwhelmed too and the crew of the Missouri are outnumbered as well. Combined the the sad theme playing, one might aspect that some of them to die but fortunately Snake succeeds.
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** [[spoiler:Naomi]]'s reaction when she checks up on his current body, considering that [[spoiler:she [[{{Videogame/MetalGearSolid}} did this to him]]]].
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** [[spoiler:Naomi]]'s reaction Naomi's breakdown after seeing the damage to Snake's body firsthand.
** Relating to this, the fact that Snake is far too young to actually look like that, and his obvious discomfort at it. Her breakdown is perfectly understandable...and throughout the scene, he's quietly standing by looking incredibly upset himself at how his looks alone are enough to bring a woman to tears. In general, the deterioration of his appearance and health becomes incredibly sad whenshe checks up on his current body, considering that [[spoiler:she [[{{Videogame/MetalGearSolid}} did this put into the context that, at 42, he's far too young to him]]]].be experiencing this.
** Relating to this, the fact that Snake is far too young to actually look like that, and his obvious discomfort at it. Her breakdown is perfectly understandable...and throughout the scene, he's quietly standing by looking incredibly upset himself at how his looks alone are enough to bring a woman to tears. In general, the deterioration of his appearance and health becomes incredibly sad when
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* Naomi's breakdown after seeing the damage to Snake's body firsthand.
** Relating to this, the fact that Snake is far too young to actually look like that, and his obvious discomfort at it. Her breakdown is perfectly understandable...and throughout the scene, he's quietly standing by looking incredibly upset himself at how his looks alone are enough to bring a woman to tears. In general, the deterioration of his appearance and health becomes incredibly sad when put into the context that, at 42, he's far too young to be experiencing this.
** Relating to this, the fact that Snake is far too young to actually look like that, and his obvious discomfort at it. Her breakdown is perfectly understandable...and throughout the scene, he's quietly standing by looking incredibly upset himself at how his looks alone are enough to bring a woman to tears. In general, the deterioration of his appearance and health becomes incredibly sad when put into the context that, at 42, he's far too young to be experiencing this.
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** Sigint was tortured to death way back in [=MGS1=].
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** Sigint sided with Zero against Big Boss despite their friendship. And it turns out he was the DARPA chief, the guy tortured to death way back in [=MGS1=].[=MGS1=].
** Sweet Para-Medic, who loved movies, also sided with Zero, and performed unethical and inhumane experiments on Frank Jaeger, and was likewise killed.
** EVA and Ocelot die as well.
** Big Boss never really got over the Boss's death or his role in it. He created two Metal Gears and attempted to start a military nation, not realizing that he was going too far, endangering the world to create a nation where soldiers got the honor they deserved. In any case, he failed, and his life was wasted fighting.
** Sweet Para-Medic, who loved movies, also sided with Zero, and performed unethical and inhumane experiments on Frank Jaeger, and was likewise killed.
** EVA and Ocelot die as well.
** Big Boss never really got over the Boss's death or his role in it. He created two Metal Gears and attempted to start a military nation, not realizing that he was going too far, endangering the world to create a nation where soldiers got the honor they deserved. In any case, he failed, and his life was wasted fighting.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more'' [[spoiler:by taking away the reason for war and leaving behind a world ''where conflict is a status quo''. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Something that The Patriot members]] [[GoneHorriblyRight realized too late]].]] For all the inventions and future human has made, this is a truly horrifying and sad sight to see.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy The war economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more'' [[spoiler:by taking away the reason for war and leaving behind a world ''where conflict is a status quo''. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Something that The Patriot members]] [[GoneHorriblyRight realized too late]].]] For all the inventions and future human humankind has made, this is a truly horrifying and sad sight to see.
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* CQC hug. That is all I have to say.
* Raiden[[spoiler:'s HeroicSacrifice at the end of Act 4 and then screaming Rose's name, despite acting not to care for her]]. [[spoiler:Thankfully, he survives.]]
* Raiden[[spoiler:'s HeroicSacrifice at the end of Act 4 and then screaming Rose's name, despite acting not to care for her]]. [[spoiler:Thankfully, he survives.]]
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* CQC hug. That is all I have to say.
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* Raiden[[spoiler:'s HeroicSacrifice at the end of Act 4 and then screaming Rose's name, despiteacting pretending to not to care for her]]. [[spoiler:Thankfully, he survives.]]
* Raiden[[spoiler:'s HeroicSacrifice at the end of Act 4 and then screaming Rose's name, despite
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** That moment carries out an absolutely brutal assault on the heart of anyone with feelings. To think that ten years ago (almost literally if you've been playing since the advent of the ''Solid'' series or before) you stood on this spot and there was so much to come, and now it's all rusted-out, decayed, cold, dead. You don't feel any closer to Snake than in that moment because it sums up his personal journey so well.
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** That moment carries out an absolutely brutal assault on the heart of anyone with feelings. To think that ten nine years ago (almost literally if you've been playing since the advent of the ''Solid'' series or before) you stood on this spot and there was so much to come, and now it's all rusted-out, decayed, cold, dead. You don't feel any closer to Snake than in that moment because it sums up his personal journey so well.
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-->'''Otacon:''' [[spoiler: Snake... Is is sick. So, he went on a trip to help him get better.]]
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** What absolutely seals it, however, is Otacon's next line, which is probably ''one of the most simple and honest statements'' in a series built around lies and deception. [[spoiler: "Snake... Had a hard life. He needs some time to rest."]] Cue the ManlyTears, from both Otacon and the player.
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** What absolutely seals it, however, is Otacon's next line, which is probably ''one of the most simple and honest statements'' in a series built around lies and deception. [[spoiler: "Snake... Had had a hard life. He needs some time to rest."]] Cue the ManlyTears, from both Otacon and the player.
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** The sad meeting between Big Boss and Old Snake from beginning to end is just pure TearJerker. Basically, when you take it into account from EVERY Metal Gear game up to this point. Everything that was done, every action taken behind the scenes. Every step and word uttered lead up to the eventual meeting between two legends. Big Boss slightly and coldly never considers Old Snake his "son". Instead, he refers to him as a fellow brother. A man. Tall, heroic, proud and destined to overcame great odds because of their fighting spirits. To hear Big Boss explain himself with every ounce of strength he has left on the earth is truly heart wrenching to say the least.
* Snake and Raiden's relationship as mentor/student and later comrades takes a turn for the tragic when Raiden declares [[spoiler: he has NOTHING left to live for except for following Snake and his vision for freedom for themselves. Snake, knowing he'll die soon tries to discourage Raiden from following him, but Raiden drags himself along the floor and desperately clutches Snake's leg, begging him not to leave him alone after having lost his parents, his innocence due to his child soldier days, his love and his child. After cursing his birth, Snake then tells Raiden, "You were the lightning in that rain."]] It hammered home that in many ways, Snake is the closest thing Raiden had to a real father. Manly tears were formed after that scene.
* Snake and Raiden's relationship as mentor/student and later comrades takes a turn for the tragic when Raiden declares [[spoiler: he has NOTHING left to live for except for following Snake and his vision for freedom for themselves. Snake, knowing he'll die soon tries to discourage Raiden from following him, but Raiden drags himself along the floor and desperately clutches Snake's leg, begging him not to leave him alone after having lost his parents, his innocence due to his child soldier days, his love and his child. After cursing his birth, Snake then tells Raiden, "You were the lightning in that rain."]] It hammered home that in many ways, Snake is the closest thing Raiden had to a real father. Manly tears were formed after that scene.
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** The sad meeting between Big Boss and Old Snake from beginning to end is just pure TearJerker. Basically, when you take it into account from EVERY Metal Gear game up to this point. Everything that was done, every action taken behind the scenes. Every step and word uttered lead up to the eventual meeting between two legends. Big Boss slightly and coldly never considers Old Snake his "son". Instead, he refers to him as a fellow brother. A man. Tall, heroic, proud and destined to overcame great odds because of their fighting spirits. To hear Big Boss explain himself with every ounce of strength he has left on the earth Earth is truly heart wrenching heartwrenching to say the least.
* Snake and Raiden's relationship as mentor/student and later comrades takes a turn for the tragic when Raiden declares [[spoiler: he has NOTHING left to live for except for following Snake and his vision for freedom for themselves. Snake, knowing he'll diesoon soon, tries to discourage Raiden from following him, but Raiden drags himself along the floor and desperately clutches Snake's leg, begging him not to leave him alone after having lost his parents, his innocence due to his child soldier days, his love and his child. After cursing his birth, Snake then tells Raiden, "You were the lightning in that rain."]] It hammered home that in many ways, Snake is the closest thing Raiden had to a real father. Manly tears were formed after that scene.
* Snake and Raiden's relationship as mentor/student and later comrades takes a turn for the tragic when Raiden declares [[spoiler: he has NOTHING left to live for except for following Snake and his vision for freedom for themselves. Snake, knowing he'll die
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* The end of [=MGS4,=] [[spoiler: when Big Boss "sends Zero back to nothing." Yes the guy was the BigBad, but in the end, he was just an oblivious old man in a wheelchair, completely unaware of all the things he had done, convulsing as his air supply was cut off, while flashbacks of the good man he used to be appear on the screen.]]
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* The end of [=MGS4,=] [=MGS4=], [[spoiler: when Big Boss "sends Zero back to nothing." Yes the guy was the BigBad, but in the end, he was just an oblivious old man in a wheelchair, completely unaware of all the things he had done, convulsing as his air supply was cut off, while flashbacks of the good man he used to be appear on the screen.]]
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** During Act 3, [[spoiler: when Eva is talking about Big Boss's death at Zanzibar Land she talks about Zero's reaction to it. "For Zero, more than anyone else... your.... father.... was an irreplaceable icon." And then she comes right back and speaks the truth. "No... the truth is... for Zero.... he was an irreplaceable friend". And while this is happening, you can see a picture of Zero; it's hard to make it out, but he looks utterly distraught in sorrow.]]
* [[spoiler: "Let it go, my son. I'm not here to fight. Or should I call you, brother? It's over, time for you to put aside the gun, and live."]]
* The microwave corridor. [[spoiler: Raiden is being overpowered by [=FROGs=], Meryl and Johnny are running out of ammunition and taking a few bullets, the ''Missouri'' is being overrun by Scarabs... and all the while Snake is slowly being cooked by radiation - he's literally dragging himself along as bits of his suit (along with the Solid Eye) explode, Rose and Campbell turn away from their screen, unable to watch, and Otacon is ''begging'' Snake not to give up. And if you die... Otacon's agonized scream of "'''SNAAAAKE!!'''"]].
* [[spoiler: "Let it go, my son. I'm not here to fight. Or should I call you, brother? It's over, time for you to put aside the gun, and live."]]
* The microwave corridor. [[spoiler: Raiden is being overpowered by [=FROGs=], Meryl and Johnny are running out of ammunition and taking a few bullets, the ''Missouri'' is being overrun by Scarabs... and all the while Snake is slowly being cooked by radiation - he's literally dragging himself along as bits of his suit (along with the Solid Eye) explode, Rose and Campbell turn away from their screen, unable to watch, and Otacon is ''begging'' Snake not to give up. And if you die... Otacon's agonized scream of "'''SNAAAAKE!!'''"]].
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** During Act 3, [[spoiler: when Eva is talking about Big Boss's death at Zanzibar Land she talks about Zero's reaction to it. "For Zero, more than anyone else... your.... your father.... was an irreplaceable icon." And then she comes right back and speaks the truth. "No... the truth is... is, for Zero.... he was an irreplaceable friend". And while this is happening, you can see a picture of Zero; it's hard to make it out, but he looks utterly distraught in sorrow.]]
* The realization of what happened to the entire cast of [=MGS3=].
** Zero, as discussed above, grew power-hungry and corrupt, then nearly destroyed the world.
** Sigint was tortured to death way back in [=MGS1=].
* [[spoiler: "Let it go, my son. I'm not here to fight. Or should I callyou, you brother? It's over, time for you to put aside the gun, and live."]]
* The microwave corridor. [[spoiler: Raiden is being overpowered by [=FROGs=], Meryl and Johnny are running out of ammunition and taking a few bullets, the ''Missouri'' is being overrun by Scarabs... and all the while Snake is slowly being cooked by radiation - he's literally dragging himself along as bits of his suit (along with the Solid Eye) explode, Rose and Campbell turn away from their screen, unable to watch, and Otacon is ''begging'' Snake not to give up. And if you die... Otacon's agonized scream of "'''SNAAAAKE!!'''"]]."]]
* The realization of what happened to the entire cast of [=MGS3=].
** Zero, as discussed above, grew power-hungry and corrupt, then nearly destroyed the world.
** Sigint was tortured to death way back in [=MGS1=].
* [[spoiler: "Let it go, my son. I'm not here to fight. Or should I call
* The microwave corridor. [[spoiler: Raiden is being overpowered by [=FROGs=], Meryl and Johnny are running out of ammunition and taking a few bullets, the ''Missouri'' is being overrun by Scarabs... and all the while Snake is slowly being cooked by radiation - he's literally dragging himself along as bits of his suit (along with the Solid Eye) explode, Rose and Campbell turn away from their screen, unable to watch, and Otacon is ''begging'' Snake not to give up. And if you die... Otacon's agonized scream of "'''SNAAAAKE!!'''"]].
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** [[spoiler:Naomi]]'s reaction when she checks up on his current body, considering that [[spoiler:she [[{{Videogame/MetalGearSolid}} did this to him]]]].
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*FOXDIE virus in Solid Snake's body [[spoiler:is going out of control due to Snake's weakening body, slowly turning him into a walking biological weapon that will kill ''indiscriminately'' in the future. You think his life sucks? Now how about having to erase his own existence so that the world he's trying to protect ''all his life'' is truly safe?]]
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-->'''Sunny:''' [[spoiler: ..[[spoiler: ...I wonder if I'll ever see him again.]]
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** From the same scene, [[spoiler: Snake removing his bandage to expose his freshly burnt face and declaring: "Raiden, look at me. I have no future.".]] The delivery of the line and the worn expression on Snake's face are truly saddening.
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** From the same scene, [[spoiler: Snake removing his bandage to expose his freshly burnt face and declaring: "Raiden, look at me. I have no future.".]] "]] The delivery of the line and the worn expression on Snake's face are truly saddening.
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** Perhaps just as sad is [[spoiler: Big Boss holding his old friend as he dies; it's been forty years since they were last together, and they will never truly be able to reconcile. The scene becomes an even bigger punch when we later find that the Patriots and their war economy were never designed this way, and that Zero's last fully-functioning years were spent desperately attempting to reverse the pieces he had set in motion including XOF, Cipher, and the AI's he had commissioned; Sadder still is the fact that Zero's condition ''isn't'' natural, not the onset of dementia or old age, but the result of an attack on him by an embittered former ally]].
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** Perhaps just as sad is [[spoiler: Big Boss holding his old friend as he dies; it's been forty years since they were last together, and they will never truly be able to reconcile. The scene becomes an even bigger punch when we later find that the Patriots and their war economy were never designed this way, and that Zero's last fully-functioning years were spent desperately attempting to reverse the pieces he had set in motion motion, including XOF, Cipher, and the AI's [=AIs=] he had commissioned; Sadder still is the fact that Zero's condition ''isn't'' natural, not the onset of dementia or old age, but the result of an attack on him by an embittered former ally]].
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** All the cutscenes with the Beauties. Seeing them struggling to get up and walk, powerless, insane and reduced to shadows of their formerly-powerful selves... Especially Crying Beauty, given that she's nearly-naked and spends a while trying to get up and walk, on a frozen island while it's snowing.
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** All the cutscenes with the Beauties. Seeing them struggling to get up and walk, powerless, insane and reduced to shadows of their formerly-powerful selves... Especially Crying Beauty, given that she's nearly-naked and spends a while trying to get up and walk, on a frozen island island, while it's snowing.
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* The final battle between Snake and Liquid is this for many fans as well. This is THE cumulative battle between the series' main characters, and a fitting ending for [[spoiler: one of them]], Liquid injects Snake full of nanomachines, in potentially fatal doses, in order to have one last fight with his brother. Even then, about a quarter of the way through, [[spoiler: Liquid reveals his new arm.]] From that point, the music becomes much more morose and sad. Liquid's fighting style matches [[spoiler: the combat techniques utilized by Liquid Snake and/or Ocelot in [=MGS1=]-3, with accompanying music]], and in the end? Their final battle becomes a drawn out, worn down, brawl between two tired, old men, yearning to be free from their inhuman lives.
** [[spoiler: Emphasized by a point about three-fourths through, when Snake and Ocelot, near DEATH, collapse against each other on top of Outer Haven. Two nanomachine syringes fall out of Liquid's pockets, and each Snake grabs one. Right when it seems like they're going to use them on themselves, they swing their arms forward and use them on each other in PERFECT SYNC. This really shows how much they want this battle to go on, so that they can fulfill their purposes one last time. ]]
** [[spoiler: Emphasized by a point about three-fourths through, when Snake and Ocelot, near DEATH, collapse against each other on top of Outer Haven. Two nanomachine syringes fall out of Liquid's pockets, and each Snake grabs one. Right when it seems like they're going to use them on themselves, they swing their arms forward and use them on each other in PERFECT SYNC. This really shows how much they want this battle to go on, so that they can fulfill their purposes one last time. ]]
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* The final battle between Snake and Liquid is this for many fans as well. This is THE cumulative battle between the series' main characters, and a fitting ending for [[spoiler: one of them]], Liquid injects Snake full of nanomachines, healing drug, in potentially fatal doses, in order to have one last fight with his brother. Even then, about a quarter of the way through, [[spoiler: Liquid reveals his new arm.]] From that point, the music becomes much more morose and sad. Liquid's fighting style matches [[spoiler: the combat techniques utilized by Liquid Snake and/or Ocelot in [=MGS1=]-3, with accompanying music]], and in the end? Their final battle becomes a drawn out, worn down, brawl between two tired, old men, yearning to be free from their inhuman lives.
** [[spoiler: Emphasized by a point about three-fourths through, when Snake and Ocelot, near DEATH, collapse against each other on top of Outer Haven. Twonanomachine syringes fall out of Liquid's pockets, and each Snake grabs one. Right when it seems like they're going to use them on themselves, they swing their arms forward and use them on each other in PERFECT SYNC. This really shows how much they want this battle to go on, so that they can fulfill their purposes one last time. ]]
** [[spoiler: Emphasized by a point about three-fourths through, when Snake and Ocelot, near DEATH, collapse against each other on top of Outer Haven. Two
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* The final battle between Snake and Liquid is this for many fans as well. This is THE cumulative battle between the series' main characters, and a fitting ending for [[spoiler: one of them]], Liquid injects Snake full of nanomachines, in potentially fatal doses, in order to have one last fight with his brother. Even then, about a quarter of the way through, [[spoiler: Liquid reveals his new arm.]] From that point, the music becomes much more morose and sad. Liquid's fighting style matches [[spoiler: the combat techniques utilized by Liquid Snake and/or Ocelot in MGS1-3, with accompanying music]], and in the end? Their final battle becomes a drawn out, worn down, brawl between two tired, old men, yearning to be free from their inhuman lives.
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* The final battle between Snake and Liquid is this for many fans as well. This is THE cumulative battle between the series' main characters, and a fitting ending for [[spoiler: one of them]], Liquid injects Snake full of nanomachines, in potentially fatal doses, in order to have one last fight with his brother. Even then, about a quarter of the way through, [[spoiler: Liquid reveals his new arm.]] From that point, the music becomes much more morose and sad. Liquid's fighting style matches [[spoiler: the combat techniques utilized by Liquid Snake and/or Ocelot in MGS1-3, [=MGS1=]-3, with accompanying music]], and in the end? Their final battle becomes a drawn out, worn down, brawl between two tired, old men, yearning to be free from their inhuman lives.
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*** [[spoiler: And then when you realize it's a near perfect replica of Liquid's fight atop REX in MGS1...]]
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*** [[spoiler: And then when you realize it's a near perfect replica of Liquid's fight atop REX in MGS1...[=MGS1=]...]]
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[spoiler: The reason? Someone misinterpreted The Boss' will, taking away the reason for war but managed nothing in return.]] For all the inventions and future human has made, this is a truly horrifying and sad sight to see.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[spoiler: The reason? Someone misinterpreted The Boss' will, more'' [[spoiler:by taking away the reason for war but managed nothing in return.and leaving behind a world ''where conflict is a status quo''. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Something that The Patriot members]] [[GoneHorriblyRight realized too late]].]] For all the inventions and future human has made, this is a truly horrifying and sad sight to see.
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** From the same scene, [[spoiler: Snake removing his bandage to expose his freshly burnt face and declaring: "Raiden, look at me. I have no future.".]] The delivery of the line and the worn expression on Snake's face are truly saddening.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[spoiler: It's the wish of The Boss]] [[WarIsHell realized in the most inhumane way imaginable.]]
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[spoiler: It's The reason? Someone misinterpreted The Boss' will, taking away the wish of The Boss]] [[WarIsHell realized reason for war but managed nothing in return.]] For all the most inhumane way imaginable.]]inventions and future human has made, this is a truly horrifying and sad sight to see.
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* Ultimately Philanthropy fails miserably at its role of destroying the Metal Gear derivatives throughout the world. Why is this a tear jerker? because this was the task that gave Solid Snake back his reason to live, the reason why he stopped being the PTSD driven alcoholic mess that he became in the wake of Zanzibar, the reason why he still fights and goes as far in 2 as to claim that it is his legacy to future generations due to the fact that he can not have children of his own. And yet as we see in Revengeance he failed. Maybe he did succeed in finding another reason to live like he claimed at the end of 4; but it is still sad that the life's dream of one of history's greatest men went so unfulfilled.
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* Ultimately Philanthropy fails miserably at its role of destroying the Metal Gear derivatives throughout the world. Why is this a tear jerker? because this was the task that gave Solid Snake back his reason to live, the reason why he stopped being the PTSD driven alcoholic mess that he became in the wake of Zanzibar, Zanzibar Land, the reason why he still fights and goes as far in 2 as to claim that it is his legacy to future generations due to the fact that he can not have children of his own. And yet as we see in Revengeance he failed. Maybe he did succeed in finding another reason to live like he claimed at the end of 4; but it is still sad that the life's dream of one of history's greatest men went so unfulfilled.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[WarIsHell [[spoiler: It's the wish of The Boss Boss]] [[WarIsHell realized in the most inhumane way imaginable.]]
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening. opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these is are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[WarIsHell It's the wish of The Boss realized in the most inhumane way imaginable.]]
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* Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening. Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these is not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[WarIsHell It's the wish of The Boss realized in the most inhumane way imaginable.]]
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* The return to Shadow Moses Island: The depressing and dark mood in which the flashbacks are presented is just gut-wrenching. Yes, even "A surveillance camera...?". The strangely emotional part is the flashing images of [=MGS1=] graphics, and after it? The camera... falls off its support and shatters on the ground. Poignant.\\
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That moment carries out an absolutely brutal assault on the heart of anyone with feelings. To think that ten years ago (almost literally if you've been playing since the advent of the ''Solid'' series or before) you stood on this spot and there was so much to come, and now it's all rusted-out, decayed, cold, dead. You don't feel any closer to Snake than in that moment because it sums up his personal journey so well.
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That moment carries out an absolutely brutal assault on the heart of anyone with feelings. To think that ten years ago (almost literally if you've been playing since the advent of the ''Solid'' series or before) you stood on this spot and there was so much to come, and now it's all rusted-out, decayed, cold, dead. You don't feel any closer to Snake than in that moment because it sums up his personal journey so well.
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* The return to Shadow Moses Island: The depressing and dark mood in which the flashbacks are presented is just gut-wrenching. Yes, even "A surveillance camera...?". The strangely emotional part is the flashing images of [=MGS1=] graphics, and after it? The camera... falls off its support and shatters on the ground. Poignant.\\
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** That moment carries out an absolutely brutal assault on the heart of anyone with feelings. To think that ten years ago (almost literally if you've been playing since the advent of the ''Solid'' series or before) you stood on this spot and there was so much to come, and now it's all rusted-out, decayed, cold, dead. You don't feel any closer to Snake than in that moment because it sums up his personal journey so well.
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** That moment carries out an absolutely brutal assault on the heart of anyone with feelings. To think that ten years ago (almost literally if you've been playing since the advent of the ''Solid'' series or before) you stood on this spot and there was so much to come, and now it's all rusted-out, decayed, cold, dead. You don't feel any closer to Snake than in that moment because it sums up his personal journey so well.
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** Relating to this, the fact that Snake is far too young to actually look like that, and his obvious discomfort at it. Her breakdown is perfectly understandable...and throughout the scene, he's quietly standing by looking incredibly upset himself at how his looks alone are enough to bring a woman to tears. In general, the deterioration of his appearance and health becomes incredibly sad when put into the context that, at 42, he's far too young to be experiencing this.
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* The final battle between Snake and Liquid is this for many fans as well. This is THE cumulative battle between the series' main characters, and a fitting ending for [[spoiler: one of them]], Liquid injects Snake full of nanomachines, in potentially fatal doses, in order to have one last fight with his brother. Even then, about a quarter of the way through, [[spoiler: Liquid reveals his new arm.]] From that point, the music becomes much more morose and sad. Liquid's fighting style matches [[spoiler: the combat techniques utilized by Liquid Snake and/or Ocelot in MGS1-3, with accompanying music]], and in the end? Their final battle becomes a drawn out, worn down, brawl between two tired, old men, yearning to be free from their inhuman lives.
** [[spoiler: Emphasized by a point about three-fourths through, when Snake and Ocelot, near DEATH, collapse against each other on top of Outer Haven. Two nanomachine syringes fall out of Liquid's pockets, and each Snake grabs one. Right when it seems like they're going to use them on themselves, they swing their arms forward and use them on each other in PERFECT SYNC. This really shows how much they want this battle to go on, so that they can fulfill their purposes one last time. ]]
*** [[spoiler: And then when you realize it's a near perfect replica of Liquid's fight atop REX in MGS1...]]
* The final battle between Snake and Liquid is this for many fans as well. This is THE cumulative battle between the series' main characters, and a fitting ending for [[spoiler: one of them]], Liquid injects Snake full of nanomachines, in potentially fatal doses, in order to have one last fight with his brother. Even then, about a quarter of the way through, [[spoiler: Liquid reveals his new arm.]] From that point, the music becomes much more morose and sad. Liquid's fighting style matches [[spoiler: the combat techniques utilized by Liquid Snake and/or Ocelot in MGS1-3, with accompanying music]], and in the end? Their final battle becomes a drawn out, worn down, brawl between two tired, old men, yearning to be free from their inhuman lives.
** [[spoiler: Emphasized by a point about three-fourths through, when Snake and Ocelot, near DEATH, collapse against each other on top of Outer Haven. Two nanomachine syringes fall out of Liquid's pockets, and each Snake grabs one. Right when it seems like they're going to use them on themselves, they swing their arms forward and use them on each other in PERFECT SYNC. This really shows how much they want this battle to go on, so that they can fulfill their purposes one last time. ]]
*** [[spoiler: And then when you realize it's a near perfect replica of Liquid's fight atop REX in MGS1...]]
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** "Father and Son." That is all.
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** "Father and Son." That is all.all.
** The subdued "Old Snake" leitmotif too.
* Naomi's breakdown after seeing the damage to Snake's body firsthand.
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* Naomi's breakdown after seeing the damage to Snake's body firsthand.
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** What absolutely seals it, however, is Otacon's next line, which is probably ''one of the most simple and honest statements'' in a series built around lies and deception. [[spoiler: "Snake... Had a hard life. He needs some time to rest."]] Cue the ManlyTears, from both Otacon and the player. This is made even worse by the fact that [[spoiler: as far as we know, Snake didn't contact Otacon after meeting Big Boss and going off the grid to live a normal life.]] As far as Otacon is concerned, [[spoiler: Snake committed suicide.]]
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** What absolutely seals it, however, is Otacon's next line, which is probably ''one of the most simple and honest statements'' in a series built around lies and deception. [[spoiler: "Snake... Had a hard life. He needs some time to rest."]] Cue the ManlyTears, from both Otacon and the player. This is made even worse by the fact that [[spoiler: as far as we know, Snake didn't contact Otacon after meeting Big Boss and going off the grid to live a normal life.]] As far as Otacon is concerned, [[spoiler: Snake committed suicide.]]
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** Perhaps just as sad is [[spoiler: Big Boss holding his old friend as he dies; it's been forty years since they were last together, and they will never truly be able to reconcile. The scene becomes an even bigger punch when we later find that the Patriots and their war economy were never designed this way, and that Zero's last fully-functioning years were spent desperately attempting to reverse the pieces he had set in motion including XOF, Cipher, and the AI's he had commissioned; Sadder still is the fact that Zero's condition ''isn't'' natural, not the onset of dementia or old age, but the result of an attack on him by an embittered former ally]].
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* After [[spoiler:the AIs are destroyed]] in the end of [=MGS4=], the soldiers from the Missouri pull the surviving FROGS out of the water, who are suffering mental breakdown without the nanomachines suppressing their fears and stress. In one of the boats an exhausted mercenary is holding her comrade, patting her head. You shot these bitches by the dozen, but they probably just got pulled into this entire mess like everyone else.
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* After [[spoiler:the AIs [=AIs=] are destroyed]] in the end of [=MGS4=], the soldiers from the Missouri pull the surviving FROGS out of the water, who are suffering mental breakdown without the nanomachines suppressing their fears and stress. In one of the boats an exhausted mercenary is holding her comrade, patting her head. You shot these bitches by the dozen, but they probably just got pulled into this entire mess like everyone else.
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** It would be a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments heartwarming]] if not for the context...
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** What absolutely seals it, however, is Otacon's next line, which is probably ''one of the most simple and honest statements'' in a series built around lies and deception. [[spoiler: "Snake... Had a hard life. He needs some time to rest."]] Cue the ManlyTears, from both Otacon and the player.
*** IIRC, this is made even worse by the fact that [[spoiler: as far as we know, Snake didn't contact Otacon after meeting Big Boss and going off the grid to live a normal life.]] As far as Otacon is concerned, [[spoiler: Snake committed suicide.]]
*** IIRC, this is made even worse by the fact that [[spoiler: as far as we know, Snake didn't contact Otacon after meeting Big Boss and going off the grid to live a normal life.]] As far as Otacon is concerned, [[spoiler: Snake committed suicide.]]
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** What absolutely seals it, however, is Otacon's next line, which is probably ''one of the most simple and honest statements'' in a series built around lies and deception. [[spoiler: "Snake... Had a hard life. He needs some time to rest."]] Cue the ManlyTears, from both Otacon and the player.
*** IIRC, thisplayer. This is made even worse by the fact that [[spoiler: as far as we know, Snake didn't contact Otacon after meeting Big Boss and going off the grid to live a normal life.]] As far as Otacon is concerned, [[spoiler: Snake committed suicide.]]
*** IIRC, this
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As the {{Grand Finale}} for [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid Solid Snake's story]], you can tell that the fourth sequel will calls call for {{Manly Tears}} or [[TearJerker just tears in general.]]
