History TearJerker / MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots

28th Jul '16 4:39:04 AM TypeProton
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[spoiler: It's the wish of The Boss]] [[WarIsHell realized in the most inhumane way imaginable.]]

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[spoiler: It's The reason? Someone misinterpreted The Boss' will, taking away the wish of The Boss]] [[WarIsHell realized reason for war but managed nothing in return.]] For all the most inhumane way imaginable.]]inventions and future human has made, this is a truly horrifying and sad sight to see.
2nd May '16 6:32:12 PM Usagi1992
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** [[spoiler:"This is good... isn't it?"]]



** [[spoiler:"This is good... isn't it?"]]



* Ultimately Philanthropy fails miserably at its role of destroying the Metal Gear derivatives throughout the world. Why is this a tear jerker? because this was the task that gave Solid Snake back his reason to live, the reason why he stopped being the PTSD driven alcoholic mess that he became in the wake of Zanzibar, the reason why he still fights and goes as far in 2 as to claim that it is his legacy to future generations due to the fact that he can not have children of his own. And yet as we see in Revengeance he failed. Maybe he did succeed in finding another reason to live like he claimed at the end of 4; but it is still sad that the life's dream of one of history's greatest men went so unfulfilled.

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* Ultimately Philanthropy fails miserably at its role of destroying the Metal Gear derivatives throughout the world. Why is this a tear jerker? because this was the task that gave Solid Snake back his reason to live, the reason why he stopped being the PTSD driven alcoholic mess that he became in the wake of Zanzibar, Zanzibar Land, the reason why he still fights and goes as far in 2 as to claim that it is his legacy to future generations due to the fact that he can not have children of his own. And yet as we see in Revengeance he failed. Maybe he did succeed in finding another reason to live like he claimed at the end of 4; but it is still sad that the life's dream of one of history's greatest men went so unfulfilled.
15th Mar '16 6:56:56 AM TypeProton
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[WarIsHell It's the wish of The Boss realized in the most inhumane way imaginable.]]

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[WarIsHell [[spoiler: It's the wish of The Boss Boss]] [[WarIsHell realized in the most inhumane way imaginable.]]
15th Mar '16 6:55:06 AM TypeProton
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* Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening. Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these is not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[WarIsHell It's the wish of The Boss realized in the most inhumane way imaginable.]]

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3Ey_pPlXk Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening. opening.]] Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these is are (ultimately) not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[WarIsHell It's the wish of The Boss realized in the most inhumane way imaginable.]]
15th Mar '16 6:53:53 AM TypeProton
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* Snake's "War has changed" monologue in the opening. Soldiers fight and die like flies. Cities get blown to bits. All these is not because of food, resources, belief, ideology or religion. War Economy has encompassed over the society for the sake of... keeping this systematic killing going and ''nothing more''. [[WarIsHell It's the wish of The Boss realized in the most inhumane way imaginable.]]
28th Feb '16 5:08:05 PM followerofcake
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* The return to Shadow Moses Island: The depressing and dark mood in which the flashbacks are presented is just gut-wrenching. Yes, even "A surveillance camera...?". The strangely emotional part is the flashing images of [=MGS1=] graphics, and after it? The camera... falls off its support and shatters on the ground. Poignant.\\
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That moment carries out an absolutely brutal assault on the heart of anyone with feelings. To think that ten years ago (almost literally if you've been playing since the advent of the ''Solid'' series or before) you stood on this spot and there was so much to come, and now it's all rusted-out, decayed, cold, dead. You don't feel any closer to Snake than in that moment because it sums up his personal journey so well.

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* The return to Shadow Moses Island: The depressing and dark mood in which the flashbacks are presented is just gut-wrenching. Yes, even "A surveillance camera...?". The strangely emotional part is the flashing images of [=MGS1=] graphics, and after it? The camera... falls off its support and shatters on the ground. Poignant.\\
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Poignant.
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That moment carries out an absolutely brutal assault on the heart of anyone with feelings. To think that ten years ago (almost literally if you've been playing since the advent of the ''Solid'' series or before) you stood on this spot and there was so much to come, and now it's all rusted-out, decayed, cold, dead. You don't feel any closer to Snake than in that moment because it sums up his personal journey so well.
5th Feb '16 4:40:10 PM moongalleon22
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** Relating to this, the fact that Snake is far too young to actually look like that, and his obvious discomfort at it. Her breakdown is perfectly understandable...and throughout the scene, he's quietly standing by looking incredibly upset himself at how his looks alone are enough to bring a woman to tears. In general, the deterioration of his appearance and health becomes incredibly sad when put into the context that, at 42, he's far too young to be experiencing this.
23rd Dec '15 11:32:54 PM terriblefate
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* Naomi's breakdown after seeing the damage to Snake's body firsthand.

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* Naomi's breakdown after seeing the damage to Snake's body firsthand.firsthand.
* The final battle between Snake and Liquid is this for many fans as well. This is THE cumulative battle between the series' main characters, and a fitting ending for [[spoiler: one of them]], Liquid injects Snake full of nanomachines, in potentially fatal doses, in order to have one last fight with his brother. Even then, about a quarter of the way through, [[spoiler: Liquid reveals his new arm.]] From that point, the music becomes much more morose and sad. Liquid's fighting style matches [[spoiler: the combat techniques utilized by Liquid Snake and/or Ocelot in MGS1-3, with accompanying music]], and in the end? Their final battle becomes a drawn out, worn down, brawl between two tired, old men, yearning to be free from their inhuman lives.
** [[spoiler: Emphasized by a point about three-fourths through, when Snake and Ocelot, near DEATH, collapse against each other on top of Outer Haven. Two nanomachine syringes fall out of Liquid's pockets, and each Snake grabs one. Right when it seems like they're going to use them on themselves, they swing their arms forward and use them on each other in PERFECT SYNC. This really shows how much they want this battle to go on, so that they can fulfill their purposes one last time. ]]
*** [[spoiler: And then when you realize it's a near perfect replica of Liquid's fight atop REX in MGS1...]]
23rd Dec '15 8:44:06 PM paulson
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** "Father and Son." That is all.

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** "Father and Son." That is all.all.
** The subdued "Old Snake" leitmotif too.
* Naomi's breakdown after seeing the damage to Snake's body firsthand.
6th Nov '15 11:48:04 PM ShorinBJ
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** What absolutely seals it, however, is Otacon's next line, which is probably ''one of the most simple and honest statements'' in a series built around lies and deception. [[spoiler: "Snake... Had a hard life. He needs some time to rest."]] Cue the ManlyTears, from both Otacon and the player. This is made even worse by the fact that [[spoiler: as far as we know, Snake didn't contact Otacon after meeting Big Boss and going off the grid to live a normal life.]] As far as Otacon is concerned, [[spoiler: Snake committed suicide.]]

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** What absolutely seals it, however, is Otacon's next line, which is probably ''one of the most simple and honest statements'' in a series built around lies and deception. [[spoiler: "Snake... Had a hard life. He needs some time to rest."]] Cue the ManlyTears, from both Otacon and the player. This is made even worse by the fact that [[spoiler: as far as we know, Snake didn't contact Otacon after meeting Big Boss and going off the grid to live a normal life.]] As far as Otacon is concerned, [[spoiler: Snake committed suicide.]]
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