History TearJerker / Gargoyles

15th Sep '17 11:35:23 PM Kaltrope
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** Then there is Sevarius' reaction to the death of his 'son'. In the words of Hudson, "He almost makes me feel sorry for him."

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** Then there is Sevarius' reaction to the death of his 'son'. In the words of Hudson, "He almost makes me feel sorry for him."" Despite being utterly devastated, he still tried to maintain a reassuring, optimistic appearance for him in his last moments.
15th Sep '17 11:22:39 PM Kaltrope
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** [[CryForTheDevil There's another way to look at it:]] Thailog already knew of Goliath's altruistic views, hence knowing how to manipulate him, eagerly wanting to meet the one "father" who never exploited him. He was even going to share his profits with him, a considerable show of care given Thailog's values. Unfortunately, Goliath's shock and (understandable but misplaced) anger at discovering his clone shattered Thailog's hopes, who now felt rejected and hated simply for ''existing'', with Goliath's subsequent decision to release him done stating Xanatos was to blame, meaning he still thought of Thailog as a mistake. By the time Goliath approached Thailog to repair things, it was far too late for the composed but vindictive Thailog to see it the same way.

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** [[CryForTheDevil There's another way to look at it:]] Thailog already knew of Goliath's altruistic views, hence knowing how to manipulate him, eagerly wanting to meet the one "father" who never exploited him. He was even going to share his profits with him, a considerable show of care given Thailog's values. The way he first introduced himself to Goliath, you can really feel it in his voice that he wanted acceptance. Unfortunately, Goliath's shock and (understandable but misplaced) anger at discovering his clone shattered Thailog's hopes, who now felt rejected and hated simply for ''existing'', ''existing'' [[note]](while Goliath debated with Elisa, Thailog can be seen raging against his shackles with a furious expression; the shackles were revealed to be a ruse, the reaction wasn't)[[/note]]. Goliath's subsequent decision to release him was done stating Xanatos was to blame, meaning he still thought of Thailog as a mistake. By the time Goliath approached Thailog to repair things, it was far too late for the composed but vindictive Thailog to see it the same way.
4th Sep '17 8:44:03 PM Peteman
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** Brutally averted as she [[IgnoredEpiphany immediately went back into]] her NeverMyFault mentality.

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** Brutally averted Averted as she [[IgnoredEpiphany immediately went back into]] her NeverMyFault mentality.
30th Aug '17 12:59:21 PM ironballs16
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** Brutally averted as she immediately went back into her NeverMyFault mentality.

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** Brutally averted as she [[IgnoredEpiphany immediately went back into into]] her NeverMyFault mentality.
30th Aug '17 12:57:07 PM ironballs16
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** Perhaps the most tragic example is in "Vows" where Xanatos' wedding convinces Goliath to attend to it because it reminded him of how he and Demona made their own vows of eternal love. He goes to the wedding, probably intending to reconcile with her. Things go downhill when he brings the half of an amulet that Demona gave him when they made their vows, as the completed amulet can make the user travel in time. Demona uses this occasion to warn her younger self about the destruction of her clan, but ends up disgusting her thanks to her new personality. By the time Demona is restrained, Goliath attempts to give her past self advice to comfort her over the horrible future ahead of her. Once Goliath returns, Demona awakens and reveals that she remembered the advice that he gave her past self but doesn't care. The end of the episode has Goliath reminiscing about the love he and Demona shared but can never have again.

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** Perhaps the most tragic example is in "Vows" where Xanatos' wedding convinces Goliath to attend to it because it reminded him of how he and Demona made their own vows of eternal love. He goes to the wedding, probably intending to reconcile with her. Things go downhill when he brings the half of an amulet that Demona gave him when they made their vows, as the completed amulet can make the user travel in time. Demona uses this occasion to warn her younger self about the destruction of her clan, [[FutureMeScaresMe but ends up disgusting her thanks to her new personality.personality]]. By the time Demona is restrained, Goliath attempts to give her past self advice to comfort her over the horrible future ahead of her. Once Goliath returns, Demona awakens and reveals that she remembered the advice that he gave her past self but doesn't care. The end of the episode has Goliath reminiscing about the love he and Demona shared but can never have again.
3rd Jul '17 12:28:37 PM kyatollah
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[[caption-width-right:300:"More is the pity..."]]
13th Jan '17 3:43:33 AM Doug86
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* Your heart has to break for Gruoch, MacBeth's wife. She witnesses Canmore killing her husband and her son, Luach, taking on the crown of king of Scotland, MacBeth rises from the dead before her, and then must leave Scotland, and her, forever, as he's declared dead and his son is now king. Worse still is that historically, a year later, Luach dies in battle. [[WordOfGod According to Greg Weisman,]] Gruoch commits suicide after this. TraumaCongaLine doesn't begin to describe it.

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* Your heart has to break for Gruoch, MacBeth's [=MacBeth=]'s wife. She witnesses Canmore killing her husband and her son, Luach, taking on the crown of king of Scotland, MacBeth [=MacBeth=] rises from the dead before her, and then must leave Scotland, and her, forever, as he's declared dead and his son is now king. Worse still is that historically, a year later, Luach dies in battle. [[WordOfGod According to Greg Weisman,]] Gruoch commits suicide after this. TraumaCongaLine doesn't begin to describe it.
1st Nov '16 8:29:04 PM Scabbard
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* No mention of how [[spoiler: The Gargoyles are revealed to the world at large... and thought to be a menace? Especially Angela's reaction]]

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* No mention of how [[spoiler: The Gargoyles are revealed to the world at large... and thought to be a menace? Especially Angela's reaction]]reaction]].
1st Nov '16 8:27:09 PM Scabbard
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*** The differences between Demona's feelings for Goliath can be seen when she and her past self interact with each other. For example, when both versions of Demona travel in time with Goliath, they both have opposite reactions when they see him on the ground: !Past Demona wants to help him but Demona runs to the recovering Goliath...[[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown and kicks him right in the face, knocking him unconscious.]] It borders on NightmareFuel for !Past Demona. Imagine watching your significant other be callously hurt by none other than yourself. Poor Goliath barely lifted his head before Demona's foot caught him on the chin rather than have her extend her hand to help him.

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*** The differences between Demona's feelings for Goliath can be seen when she and her past self interact with each other. For example, when both versions of Demona travel in time with Goliath, they both have opposite reactions when they see him on the ground: !Past Demona Past!Demona wants to help him but Demona runs to the recovering Goliath...[[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown and kicks him right in the face, knocking him unconscious.]] It borders on NightmareFuel for !Past Demona.Past!Demona. Imagine watching your significant other be callously hurt by none other than yourself. Poor Goliath barely lifted his head before Demona's foot caught him on the chin rather than have her extend her hand to help him.
11th Oct '16 1:41:16 PM ShorinBJ
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--> '''Thailog''': I considered caring about you. It took some effort, but I arranged for you to join this party because I planned to share the money with you. But our little ''family reunion'' disappointed me ''father''. [[HeelFaceDoorSlam So I've decided to hate you too.]]
** [[CryForTheDevil There's another way to look at it:]] Thailog already knew of Goliath's altruistic views hence knowing how to manipulate him, eagerly wanting to meet the one "father" who never exploited him. He was even going to share his profits with him, a considerable show of care given Thailog's values. Unfortunately, Goliath's shock and (understandable but misplaced) anger at discovering his clone shattered Thailog's hopes, who now felt rejected and hated simply for ''existing'', with Goliath's subsequent decision to release him done stating Xanatos was to blame, meaning he still thought of Thailog as a mistake. By the time Goliath approached Thailog to repair things, it was far too late for the composed but vindictive Thailog to see it the same way.
-->"Well, I should have known no copy could live up to the original."
-->"That ''copy'' was a living being...and we all failed him." - '''Xanatos''' and '''Goliath'''

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--> '''Thailog''': I considered caring about you. It took some effort, but I arranged for you to join this party because I planned to share the money with you. But our little ''family reunion'' disappointed me ''father''.me, ''Father''. [[HeelFaceDoorSlam So I've decided to hate you too.]]
** [[CryForTheDevil There's another way to look at it:]] Thailog already knew of Goliath's altruistic views views, hence knowing how to manipulate him, eagerly wanting to meet the one "father" who never exploited him. He was even going to share his profits with him, a considerable show of care given Thailog's values. Unfortunately, Goliath's shock and (understandable but misplaced) anger at discovering his clone shattered Thailog's hopes, who now felt rejected and hated simply for ''existing'', with Goliath's subsequent decision to release him done stating Xanatos was to blame, meaning he still thought of Thailog as a mistake. By the time Goliath approached Thailog to repair things, it was far too late for the composed but vindictive Thailog to see it the same way.
-->"Well, -->'''Xanatos''': Well, I should have known no copy could live up to the original."
-->"That
original.
-->'''Goliath''': That
''copy'' was a living being...and we all failed him." - '''Xanatos''' and '''Goliath'''
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