History TearJerker / Gargoyles

3rd Jul '17 12:28:37 PM kyatollah
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[[caption-width-right:300:"More is the pity..."]]
13th Jan '17 3:43:33 AM Doug86
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* Your heart has to break for Gruoch, MacBeth's wife. She witnesses Canmore killing her husband and her son, Luach, taking on the crown of king of Scotland, MacBeth rises from the dead before her, and then must leave Scotland, and her, forever, as he's declared dead and his son is now king. Worse still is that historically, a year later, Luach dies in battle. [[WordOfGod According to Greg Weisman,]] Gruoch commits suicide after this. TraumaCongaLine doesn't begin to describe it.

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* Your heart has to break for Gruoch, MacBeth's [=MacBeth=]'s wife. She witnesses Canmore killing her husband and her son, Luach, taking on the crown of king of Scotland, MacBeth [=MacBeth=] rises from the dead before her, and then must leave Scotland, and her, forever, as he's declared dead and his son is now king. Worse still is that historically, a year later, Luach dies in battle. [[WordOfGod According to Greg Weisman,]] Gruoch commits suicide after this. TraumaCongaLine doesn't begin to describe it.
1st Nov '16 8:29:04 PM Scabbard
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* No mention of how [[spoiler: The Gargoyles are revealed to the world at large... and thought to be a menace? Especially Angela's reaction]]

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* No mention of how [[spoiler: The Gargoyles are revealed to the world at large... and thought to be a menace? Especially Angela's reaction]]reaction]].
1st Nov '16 8:27:09 PM Scabbard
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*** The differences between Demona's feelings for Goliath can be seen when she and her past self interact with each other. For example, when both versions of Demona travel in time with Goliath, they both have opposite reactions when they see him on the ground: !Past Demona wants to help him but Demona runs to the recovering Goliath...[[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown and kicks him right in the face, knocking him unconscious.]] It borders on NightmareFuel for !Past Demona. Imagine watching your significant other be callously hurt by none other than yourself. Poor Goliath barely lifted his head before Demona's foot caught him on the chin rather than have her extend her hand to help him.

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*** The differences between Demona's feelings for Goliath can be seen when she and her past self interact with each other. For example, when both versions of Demona travel in time with Goliath, they both have opposite reactions when they see him on the ground: !Past Demona Past!Demona wants to help him but Demona runs to the recovering Goliath...[[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown and kicks him right in the face, knocking him unconscious.]] It borders on NightmareFuel for !Past Demona.Past!Demona. Imagine watching your significant other be callously hurt by none other than yourself. Poor Goliath barely lifted his head before Demona's foot caught him on the chin rather than have her extend her hand to help him.
11th Oct '16 1:41:16 PM ShorinBJ
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--> '''Thailog''': I considered caring about you. It took some effort, but I arranged for you to join this party because I planned to share the money with you. But our little ''family reunion'' disappointed me ''father''. [[HeelFaceDoorSlam So I've decided to hate you too.]]
** [[CryForTheDevil There's another way to look at it:]] Thailog already knew of Goliath's altruistic views hence knowing how to manipulate him, eagerly wanting to meet the one "father" who never exploited him. He was even going to share his profits with him, a considerable show of care given Thailog's values. Unfortunately, Goliath's shock and (understandable but misplaced) anger at discovering his clone shattered Thailog's hopes, who now felt rejected and hated simply for ''existing'', with Goliath's subsequent decision to release him done stating Xanatos was to blame, meaning he still thought of Thailog as a mistake. By the time Goliath approached Thailog to repair things, it was far too late for the composed but vindictive Thailog to see it the same way.
-->"Well, I should have known no copy could live up to the original."
-->"That ''copy'' was a living being...and we all failed him." - '''Xanatos''' and '''Goliath'''

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--> '''Thailog''': I considered caring about you. It took some effort, but I arranged for you to join this party because I planned to share the money with you. But our little ''family reunion'' disappointed me ''father''.me, ''Father''. [[HeelFaceDoorSlam So I've decided to hate you too.]]
** [[CryForTheDevil There's another way to look at it:]] Thailog already knew of Goliath's altruistic views views, hence knowing how to manipulate him, eagerly wanting to meet the one "father" who never exploited him. He was even going to share his profits with him, a considerable show of care given Thailog's values. Unfortunately, Goliath's shock and (understandable but misplaced) anger at discovering his clone shattered Thailog's hopes, who now felt rejected and hated simply for ''existing'', with Goliath's subsequent decision to release him done stating Xanatos was to blame, meaning he still thought of Thailog as a mistake. By the time Goliath approached Thailog to repair things, it was far too late for the composed but vindictive Thailog to see it the same way.
-->"Well, -->'''Xanatos''': Well, I should have known no copy could live up to the original."
-->"That
original.
-->'''Goliath''': That
''copy'' was a living being...and we all failed him." - '''Xanatos''' and '''Goliath'''
11th Oct '16 1:38:10 PM ShorinBJ
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** Their interactions in the present contain heartbreaking echoes of their former love. Goliath can never forget what he felt for her. Demona, meanwhile, sometimes tries to enslave him or brainwash him to make him "see the light" and hate humans. Not to mention her insane jealousy toward Elisa. Neither has one hundred percent let go of the hope that they could be together again.
7th Sep '16 4:12:48 AM aigooooo
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*** Demona's [[BelievingTheirOwnLies deep denial]] over her part in what happened to the gargoyles practically counts as a tearjerker in itself, especially considering how borderline hysterical she gets when confronted about it.
---> '''Goliath:''' Don't you see? None of this would have happened if it weren't for you.
---> '''Demona:''' ''DON'T SAY THAT!''
2nd Sep '16 2:52:57 PM aigooooo
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* How paranoid Goliath is when he first meets Elisa. He's constantly questioning her motives, cautious to meet her somewhere away from the castle, and desperately trying to hide that they turn into stone during the day. Of course, Goliath's reasons for doing so are painfully obvious, but it's still heartbreaking in hindsight when you think about how he's acting towards ''Elisa'', of all people.

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* How paranoid Goliath is when he first meets Elisa. He's constantly questioning her motives, cautious to meet her somewhere away from the castle, and desperately trying to hide that they turn into stone during the day. Of course, Goliath's reasons for doing so are painfully obvious, obvious and understandable, but it's still heartbreaking in hindsight when you think about how he's acting towards ''Elisa'', of all people.
2nd Sep '16 2:45:13 PM aigooooo
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* How paranoid Goliath is when he first meets Elisa. He's constantly questioning her motives, cautious to meet her somewhere away from the castle, and desperately trying to hide that they turn into stone during the day. Of course, Goliath's reasons for doing so are painfully obvious, but it's still heartbreaking in hindsight when you think about how he's acting towards ''Elisa'', of all people.
--> '''Elisa''': Tomorrow's my day off, I'll meet you in the afternoon at-
--> '''Goliath''': After dark.
--> '''Elisa''': Heh. Why am I not surprised? Okay, here after dark.
--> '''Goliath''': No. Not here. [points at far away building] Over there, on that rooftop.
--> '''Elisa''': Why there?
--> '''Goliath''': Why were ''you'' sneaking into the castle?
--> '''Elisa''': A good detective trusts no one.
--> '''Goliath''': ''That'' is one thing we have in common.
22nd May '16 6:27:19 AM WalexCampledom
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*** Upon getting the angst out of his system with the above line, Goliath just slumps down onto his knees, as if he really has no idea what he can do now.
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