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** If you travel to Sonne with Ryu’s party, you’ll find the landlord standing in front of Mami’s house, muttering to himself about Mami. It’s clear he regrets his actions.
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* The boar sacrificing itself to open a door for Fou-Lu. It's quite painful to watch the creature bashing it's head against the door, spurting blood with each hit, until it dies.

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* The massacre of the Chek inhabitants, which drives Ryu to pure rage and unlocks the power of the Kaiser Dragon.

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* The torturous massacre of the Chek inhabitants, which drives Ryu to pure rage and unlocks the power of the Kaiser Dragon.
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* The bad ending if you make the wrong choices in the verbal battle against Fou-Lu. It ends up with Fou-Lu being the more dominant personality and he decides to carry with his wish of wiping out humanity and Ryu's friends attempts to stop him... And unlike most examples '''''you''''' control the final boss and must kill your former friends. The sad thing is that Infini, the dragon controlled by you, is so immensely more powerful than them that it doesn't feel like a battle, it feels more like a slaughter.

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* The bad ending if you make the wrong choices in the verbal battle against Fou-Lu. It ends up with Fou-Lu being the more dominant personality and he decides to carry with his wish of wiping out humanity and Ryu's friends attempts to stop him... And unlike most examples '''''you''''' '''''[[RoleReversalBoss you]]''''' control the final boss and must kill your former friends. The sad thing is that Infini, the dragon controlled by you, is so immensely more powerful than them that it doesn't feel like a battle, it feels more like a slaughter.
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* The bad ending if you make the wrong choices in the verbal battle against Fou-Lu. It ends up with Fou-Lu being the more dominant personality and he decides to carry with his wish of wiping out humanity and Ryu's friends attempts to stop him... And unlike most examples '''''you''''' control the final boss and must kill your former friends. The sad thing is that Infini, the dragon controlled by you, is so immensely more powerful than them that it doesn't feel like a battle, it feels more like a slaughter.

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* Nina's sister / Cray's betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]] It causes quite the PlayerPunch for people who [[spoiler: have sisters in real life that they love dearly]]. Nina's narration of [[spoiler: "I knew that I would never see my sister again"]] only makes it worse.
* [[spoiler: Ershin's]] last stand against the forces of the Empire. [[spoiler: Yes, my tin-can friend... That was an appropriate time to laugh.]]
* [[spoiler: The massacre of the Chek inhabitants, which drives Ryu to pure rage and unlocks the power of the Kaiser Dragon.]]
* Mami. She's just a simple village girl in the backwater end of the Empire who finds Fou-Lu badly hurt after Yohm tries to kill him and nurses him back to health and takes care of him by claiming he's her cousin Ryong who talks funny. When the Empire finally catches him, Mami helps him escape and admits to him that all she wanted for them was to have a quiet happy life together and Fou-Lu leaves and second guesses doing so, but leaves anyway. [[spoiler: Mami is kidnapped by the Empire and brutally tortured to be used in the Carronade to try and kill Fou-Lu and although it fails, Fou-Lu snaps because he's so shocked that the Empire is that desperate and because he realized they used Mami when her bells land next to him. It does not get better from there.]]
** It doesn't help the Village theme from Sonne village (Landscape) changes from a song for a peaceful village to a [[spoiler: heartbreaking tone for Mami and Fou-Lu's tragic romance, during the scene where Mami's sacrifices herself to help Fou-Lu escape from the Empire]]

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* Nina's sister / Cray's betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]] It causes quite the PlayerPunch for people who [[spoiler: have sisters in real life that they love dearly]]. dearly. Nina's narration of [[spoiler: "I knew that I would never see my sister again"]] again" only makes it worse.
* [[spoiler: Ershin's]] Ershin's last stand against the forces of the Empire. [[spoiler: Yes, my tin-can friend... That was an appropriate time to laugh.]]
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* [[spoiler: The massacre of the Chek inhabitants, which drives Ryu to pure rage and unlocks the power of the Kaiser Dragon.]]
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* Mami. She's just a simple village girl in the backwater end of the Empire who finds Fou-Lu badly hurt after Yohm tries to kill him and nurses him back to health and takes care of him by claiming he's her cousin Ryong who talks funny. When the Empire finally catches him, Mami helps him escape and admits to him that all she wanted for them was to have a quiet happy life together and Fou-Lu leaves and second guesses doing so, but leaves anyway. [[spoiler: Mami is kidnapped by the Empire and brutally tortured to be used in the Carronade to try and kill Fou-Lu and although it fails, Fou-Lu snaps because he's so shocked that the Empire is that desperate and because he realized they used Mami when her bells land next to him. It does not get better from there.]]
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** It doesn't help the Village theme from Sonne village (Landscape) changes from a song for a peaceful village to a [[spoiler: a heartbreaking tone for Mami and Fou-Lu's tragic romance, during the scene where Mami's sacrifices herself to help Fou-Lu escape from the Empire]]Empire.



* [[spoiler: The massacre of the Chek inhabitants was bad enough in the game, but in the manga adaption, some of the apprentices have warmed up to Ryu a lot and he grows fond of them. Their deaths trigger Ryu's HeroicBSOD and his breakdown before, during and afterwards is just tragic.]]
* [[spoiler: Mami's fate, being used for the Carronade to try and kill Fou-Lu. It sets off Fou-Lu's WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.]]
* Mixed with SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments, [[spoiler: Ryu beating Fou-Lu in their BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind by showing him Mami's bells that she had in her hair.]]

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* [[spoiler: * The massacre of the Chek inhabitants was bad enough in the game, but in the manga adaption, some of the apprentices have warmed up to Ryu a lot and he grows fond of them. Their deaths trigger Ryu's HeroicBSOD and his breakdown before, during and afterwards is just tragic.]]
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Mami's fate, being used for the Carronade to try and kill Fou-Lu. It sets off Fou-Lu's WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.]]
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* Mixed with SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments, [[spoiler: Ryu beating Fou-Lu in their BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind by showing him Mami's bells that she had in her hair.]]
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** It doesn't help the Village theme from Sonne village changes from a song for a peaceful village to a [[spoiler: heartbreaking tone for Mami and Fou-Lu's tragic romance during the scene where Mami's sacrifces herself to help Fou-Lu escape from the Empire]]

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** It doesn't help the Village theme from Sonne village (Landscape) changes from a song for a peaceful village to a [[spoiler: heartbreaking tone for Mami and Fou-Lu's tragic romance romance, during the scene where Mami's sacrifces sacrifices herself to help Fou-Lu escape from the Empire]]
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** It doesn't help that the music during [[spoiler: Mami's sacrifce to help Fou Lu escape the village from the Empire]] transforms a simple and peaceful village theme into a [[spoiler: sad and tragic tone.]]

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** It doesn't help that the music during [[spoiler: Mami's sacrifce to help Fou Lu escape the Village theme from Sonne village changes from the Empire]] transforms a simple and song for a peaceful village theme into to a [[spoiler: sad heartbreaking tone for Mami and Fou-Lu's tragic tone.]] romance during the scene where Mami's sacrifces herself to help Fou-Lu escape from the Empire]]
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**It doesn't help that the music during [[spoiler: Mami's sacrifce to help Fou Lu escape the village from the Empire]] transforms a simple and peaceful village theme into a [[spoiler: sad and tragic tone.]]

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* Nina's sister/Cray's betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]] It causes quite the PlayerPunch for people who [[spoiler:have sisters in real life that they love dearly]]. Nina's narration of [[spoiler:"I knew that I would never see my sister again"]] only makes it worse.
* [[spoiler: Ershin's]] last stand against the forces of the Empire. [[spoiler: Yes, my tin-can friend...that was an appropriate time to laugh.]]
* [[spoiler:The massacre of the Chek inhabitants, which drives Ryu to pure rage and unlocks the power of the Kaiser Dragon.]]
* Mami. She's just a simple village girl in the backwater end of the Empire who finds Fou-lu badly hurt after Yohm tries to kill him and nurses him back to health and takes care of him by claiming he's her cousin Ryong who talks funny. When the Empire finally catches him, Mami helps him escape and admits to him that all she wanted for them was to have a quiet happy life together and Fou-lu leaves and second guesses doing so, but leaves anyway. [[spoiler: Mami is kidnapped by the Empire and brutally tortured to be used in the Carronade to try and kill Fou-lu and although it fails, Fou-lu snaps because he's so shocked that the Empire is that desperate and because he realized they used Mami when her bells land next to him. It does not get better from there.]]

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* Nina's sister/Cray's sister / Cray's betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]] It causes quite the PlayerPunch for people who [[spoiler:have [[spoiler: have sisters in real life that they love dearly]]. Nina's narration of [[spoiler:"I [[spoiler: "I knew that I would never see my sister again"]] only makes it worse.
* [[spoiler: Ershin's]] last stand against the forces of the Empire. [[spoiler: Yes, my tin-can friend...that That was an appropriate time to laugh.]]
* [[spoiler:The [[spoiler: The massacre of the Chek inhabitants, which drives Ryu to pure rage and unlocks the power of the Kaiser Dragon.]]
* Mami. She's just a simple village girl in the backwater end of the Empire who finds Fou-lu Fou-Lu badly hurt after Yohm tries to kill him and nurses him back to health and takes care of him by claiming he's her cousin Ryong who talks funny. When the Empire finally catches him, Mami helps him escape and admits to him that all she wanted for them was to have a quiet happy life together and Fou-lu Fou-Lu leaves and second guesses doing so, but leaves anyway. [[spoiler: Mami is kidnapped by the Empire and brutally tortured to be used in the Carronade to try and kill Fou-lu Fou-Lu and although it fails, Fou-lu Fou-Lu snaps because he's so shocked that the Empire is that desperate and because he realized they used Mami when her bells land next to him. It does not get better from there.]]

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* [[spoiler: Ershin's]] last stand against the forces of the Empire, which is UpToEleven. [[spoiler: Yes, my tin-can friend...that was an appropriate time to laugh.]]



* [[spoiler: Mami's fate, being used for the Carronade to try and kill Fou-lu. It sets off Fou-Lu's WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.]]
* Mixed with CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, [[spoiler: Ryu beating Fou-Lu in their BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind by showing him Mami's bells that she had in her hair.]]

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* [[spoiler: Mami's fate, being used for the Carronade to try and kill Fou-lu.Fou-Lu. It sets off Fou-Lu's WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.]]
* Mixed with CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments, [[spoiler: Ryu beating Fou-Lu in their BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind by showing him Mami's bells that she had in her hair.]]
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** [[spoiler:And the massacre of the Chek inhabitants, which drives Ryu to pure rage and unlocks the power of the Kaiser Dragon.]]

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** [[spoiler:And the * [[spoiler:The massacre of the Chek inhabitants, which drives Ryu to pure rage and unlocks the power of the Kaiser Dragon.]]

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* Nina's sister/Cray's betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]]
** It causes quite the PlayerPunch for people who [[spoiler: ''have'' sisters in real life that they love dearly]]. Nina's narration of [[spoiler: "I knew that I would never see my sister again"]] nearly broke this Troper.

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* Nina's sister/Cray's betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]]
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]] It causes quite the PlayerPunch for people who [[spoiler: ''have'' [[spoiler:have sisters in real life that they love dearly]]. Nina's narration of [[spoiler: "I [[spoiler:"I knew that I would never see my sister again"]] nearly broke this Troper.only makes it worse.
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* [[spoiler: Mami's fate, being used for the Carronade to try and kill Fou-lu. It sets off Fou-Lu's WoobieDestoryerOfWorlds.]]
* Mixed with CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, [[spoiler: Ryu beating Fou-Lu in their BattleOfTheCenterOfTheMind by showing him Mami's bells that she had in her hair.]]

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* [[spoiler: Mami's fate, being used for the Carronade to try and kill Fou-lu. It sets off Fou-Lu's WoobieDestoryerOfWorlds.WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.]]
* Mixed with CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, [[spoiler: Ryu beating Fou-Lu in their BattleOfTheCenterOfTheMind BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind by showing him Mami's bells that she had in her hair.]]
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** There is also Fou-Lu's companions, who all die in one shape or another to help him escape from The Empire. [[spoiler: The boar who bludgeons itself against a rock blocking a secret passage was pretty moving. But the farm girl who tended to Fou-Lu when he collapsed in her village and blocked the door and stalled for time when soldiers investigated her home to give Fou-Lu time to escape was really bad. Then they captured and sacrificed her to powerup a nuke they droppped on him. Aww man.]]
** [[spoiler: Ershin's]] last stand against the forces of the Empire. [[spoiler: Yes, my tin-can friend...that was an appropriate time to laugh.]]
** [[spoiler:And the massacre of the Chek inhabitants, especially in the manga adaptation.]]

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** There is also Fou-Lu's companions, who all die in one shape or another to help him escape from The Empire. [[spoiler: The boar who bludgeons itself against a rock blocking a secret passage was pretty moving. But the farm girl who tended to Fou-Lu when he collapsed in her village and blocked the door and stalled for time when soldiers investigated her home to give Fou-Lu time to escape was really bad. Then they captured and sacrificed her to powerup a nuke they droppped on him. Aww man.]]
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* [[spoiler: Ershin's]] last stand against the forces of the Empire. [[spoiler: Yes, my tin-can friend...that was an appropriate time to laugh.]]
** [[spoiler:And the massacre of the Chek inhabitants, especially in which drives Ryu to pure rage and unlocks the manga adaptation.power of the Kaiser Dragon.]]
* Mami. She's just a simple village girl in the backwater end of the Empire who finds Fou-lu badly hurt after Yohm tries to kill him and nurses him back to health and takes care of him by claiming he's her cousin Ryong who talks funny. When the Empire finally catches him, Mami helps him escape and admits to him that all she wanted for them was to have a quiet happy life together and Fou-lu leaves and second guesses doing so, but leaves anyway. [[spoiler: Mami is kidnapped by the Empire and brutally tortured to be used in the Carronade to try and kill Fou-lu and although it fails, Fou-lu snaps because he's so shocked that the Empire is that desperate and because he realized they used Mami when her bells land next to him. It does not get better from there.]]
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* ''BreathOfFireIV''. Nina's sister/Cray's betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]]

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* ''BreathOfFireIV''. Nina's sister/Cray's betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]]

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* ''BreathOfFireIV''. Nina's sister/Cray's betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger from this Troper. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]]

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* ''BreathOfFireIV''. Nina's sister/Cray's betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger from this Troper.anger. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]]



** Oh god, just reading that made this troper cover his eyes.
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* As above, finding out what happened to Elina and her fate.
* [[spoiler: Ershin's]] last stand against the forces of the Empire, which is UpToEleven. [[spoiler: Yes, my tin-can friend...that was an appropriate time to laugh.]]
* [[spoiler: The massacre of the Chek inhabitants was bad enough in the game, but in the manga adaption, some of the apprentices have warmed up to Ryu a lot and he grows fond of them. Their deaths trigger Ryu's HeroicBSOD and his breakdown before, during and afterwards is just tragic.]]
* [[spoiler: Mami's fate, being used for the Carronade to try and kill Fou-lu. It sets off Fou-Lu's WoobieDestoryerOfWorlds.]]
* Mixed with CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, [[spoiler: Ryu beating Fou-Lu in their BattleOfTheCenterOfTheMind by showing him Mami's bells that she had in her hair.]]
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** Oh god, just reading that made this troper cover his eyes.
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** It's even worse for people who [[spoiler: ''have'' sisters in real life that they love dearly]]. Nina's narration of [[spoiler: "I knew that I would never see my sister again"]] nearly broke this Troper.

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** It's even worse It causes quite the PlayerPunch for people who [[spoiler: ''have'' sisters in real life that they love dearly]]. Nina's narration of [[spoiler: "I knew that I would never see my sister again"]] nearly broke this Troper.
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** It's even worse for people who [[spoiler: ''have'' sisters in real life that they love dearly]]. Nina's narration of [[spoiler: "I knew that I would never see my sister again"]] nearly broke this Troper.
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** [[spoiler:And the massacre of the Chek inhabitants, especially in the manga adaptation.]]
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* ''BreathOfFireIV''. Nina's sister/Cray's betrothed. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger from this Troper. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]]

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* ''BreathOfFireIV''. Nina's sister/Cray's betrothed.betrothed, Princess Elina. [[spoiler: Thanks to many nasty experiments, she's been turned into a god-like monster. It's not perfect though, and she's in extreme pain. You start a quest to find the only weapon that can injure gods, and Cray has to mercy kill her. Combined with the MadScientist pulling a KarmaHoudini and you've got tears and anger from this Troper. It's even worse when you realize this (probably) is a prequel, where the MadScientist perfected his work, and BigBad IS a god-like monster.]]
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** [[spoiler: Ershin's]] last stand against the forces of the Empire. [[spoiler: Yes, my tin-can friend...that was an appropriate time to laugh.]]

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