History TearJerker / Borderlands2

1st Dec '16 2:20:56 PM Archimedes
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*** The worst part? He's not entirely wrong. Pandora is a CrapsackWorld, the Vault Hunters (minus [[TokenGoodTeammate Maya]]) aren't exactly paragons, and for all of Hyperion's psychopathy over the course of the game, the areas they controlled were among the few civilized places in the world. Especially after the Pre-Sequel revealed his backstory, you can't help but wonder what might have been had Jack not gone careening over the slippery slope. He COULD have been the hero Pandora needed... but instead became one of its greatest villains.

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*** ** The worst part? He's not entirely wrong. Pandora is a CrapsackWorld, the Vault Hunters (minus [[TokenGoodTeammate Maya]]) aren't exactly don't always behave like paragons, and for all of Hyperion's psychopathy tyranny and brutality over the course of the game, the areas they controlled were among the few civilized places in the world. Especially after the Pre-Sequel revealed his backstory, you can't help but wonder what might have been had Jack not gone careening over the slippery slope. He COULD ''could'' have been the hero Pandora needed... but instead became one of its greatest villains.villain.
1st Dec '16 11:31:54 AM Archimedes
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* [[spoiler:Bloodwing's]] slag transformation and death. Handsome Jack's taunts throughout the fight make it even worse. You know what's going to happen to [[spoiler:her,]] and there's nothing you can do to stop it. [[spoiler:Mordecai's]] heartbreak and rage after that moment serve as the game's definitive "shit just got real" moment.

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* [[spoiler:Bloodwing's]] slag transformation and death. Handsome Jack's taunts throughout the fight make it even worse. You know what's going to happen to [[spoiler:her,]] her, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. [[spoiler:Mordecai's]] heartbreak and rage after that moment serve as the game's definitive "shit just got real" moment.
16th Sep '16 5:59:15 PM TravisTouchdown
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-->[[spoiler: '''Hansome Jack''': ''No, no, no... I can't die like this... Not when I'm so close... And not at the hands of a filthy bandit! I could have saved this planet! I could have actually restored order! And I wasn't supposed to die by the hands... of a CHILD KILLING PSYCHOPATH!! You're a savage! You're a maniac, you are a bandit, AND I AM THE GODDAMN HERO!!'']]

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-->[[spoiler: '''Hansome '''Handsome Jack''': ''No, no, no... I can't die like this... Not when I'm so close... And not at the hands of a filthy bandit! I could have saved this planet! I could have actually restored order! And I wasn't supposed to die by the hands... of a CHILD KILLING PSYCHOPATH!! You're a savage! You're a maniac, you are a bandit, AND I AM THE GODDAMN HERO!!'']]HERO!!'']]
*** The worst part? He's not entirely wrong. Pandora is a CrapsackWorld, the Vault Hunters (minus [[TokenGoodTeammate Maya]]) aren't exactly paragons, and for all of Hyperion's psychopathy over the course of the game, the areas they controlled were among the few civilized places in the world. Especially after the Pre-Sequel revealed his backstory, you can't help but wonder what might have been had Jack not gone careening over the slippery slope. He COULD have been the hero Pandora needed... but instead became one of its greatest villains.



* The Son of Crawmerax has a follow up to that story, and a tearjerker of it's own: Gaige's father apparently eluded the police and saved Gaige a second time; by killing the assassin who was Grace's uncle. He still has to go into hiding, but Gaige now knows that her father is still watching out for her. Gaige herself will tear up at the revelation.

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* ** The Son of Crawmerax has a follow up to that story, and a tearjerker of it's own: Gaige's father apparently eluded the police and saved Gaige a second time; by killing the assassin who was Grace's uncle. He still has to go into hiding, but Gaige now knows that her father is still watching out for her. Gaige herself will tear up at the revelation.


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** The Nomads occasionally spout lines that [[DeathSeeker drive home that, even for murderous, insane bandits, death is sometimes much more tempting than living another day on Pandora.]]
29th Jul '16 4:47:21 AM Comiccow6
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** Even [[spoiler: his death is sad. His last words come off as less of a MotiveRant and more of a broken man desperately trying to convince himself that he's right.]]
-->[[spoiler: '''Hansome Jack''': ''No, no, no... I can't die like this... Not when I'm so close... And not at the hands of a filthy bandit! I could have saved this planet! I could have actually restored order! And I wasn't supposed to die by the hands... of a CHILD KILLING PSYCHOPATH!! You're a savage! You're a maniac, you are a bandit, AND I AM THE GODDAMN HERO!!'']]
13th Jun '16 9:15:07 AM KaminoNeko
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**** One of the Campaign of Carnage missions corroborates this idea - he sends you to murder someone for copping a feel off of Moxxi...who later contacts you herself and asks you not to kill the guy, because it was a consensual hookup. In short, Scooter's kind of a tool.
13th Jun '16 9:00:07 AM KaminoNeko
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*** That first one is actually worse...he's asking them to let ''his husband'' go because of the Skull Shivers, but didn't care what they did to '''him'''. He's given up on himself, but he's going to use his last coherent words to try to protect his husband. And Dr Samuels tried to get them both removed until Jack brought up her wife.
16th Apr '16 2:31:58 AM dvorak
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* There's the lines spoken by the Hyperion engineers that imply that most of them are PunchClockVillains who are forced to fight you, such as "I never signed up for this!" and "[[{{Retirony}} I almost paid off the house...]]".
* Shade's implied backstory in the "Captain Scarlett" DLC. He's the soul survivor in Oasis due to everyone else either dying of thirst or from bandit attacks, and he's so desperate for companionship that he's [[OfCorpseHesAlive rigged up the corpses of the townsfolk with echo recorders]] so he can pretend to have conversations with them. What really makes him tragic is the way he treats the player: he's absolutely ''overjoyed'' to finally meet another real person who isn't trying to kill him, and he makes numerous blatant hints that he wants you to keep hanging around the town so he won't be alone anymore. It really makes you want to help the poor guy relocate to Sanctuary or something.

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* There's the lines spoken by the Hyperion engineers that imply that most of them are PunchClockVillains who are forced to fight you, such as "I never signed up for this!" this!", "Stop fighting back, you're gonna get me fired!" and "[[{{Retirony}} I almost paid off the house...]]".
* Shade's implied backstory in the "Captain Scarlett" DLC. He's the soul sole survivor in Oasis due to everyone else either dying of thirst or from bandit attacks, and he's so desperate for companionship that he's [[OfCorpseHesAlive rigged up the corpses of the townsfolk with echo recorders]] so he can pretend to have conversations with them. What really makes him tragic is the way he treats the player: he's absolutely ''overjoyed'' to finally meet another real person who isn't trying to kill him, and he makes numerous blatant hints that he wants you to keep hanging around the town so he won't be alone anymore. It really makes you want to help the poor guy relocate to Sanctuary or something.
27th Jan '16 8:14:19 AM acdc827
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-->'''Lilith:''' Who would do this to [[spoiler:their own daughter?]]\\
'''Roland:''' The kind of man who deserves to die.

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-->'''Lilith:''' Who What kind of person would do this to [[spoiler:their own daughter?]]\\
'''Roland:''' The kind of man guy who deserves to die.
28th Dec '15 1:18:28 PM acdc827
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---'''Lilith:''' Who would do this to [[spoiler:their own daughter?]]\\

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---'''Lilith:''' -->'''Lilith:''' Who would do this to [[spoiler:their own daughter?]]\\
28th Dec '15 1:16:25 PM acdc827
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*** "[[spoiler: Roland's dead?]] Thank you f- thank you for telling me. Please go now." "Here. I was saving this for a rainy day, but maybe you can use it to take down Jack. Please go now." Her voice is completely devoid of any life or enthusiasm.

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*** "[[spoiler: -->'''Tina:''' ''(In a voice completely devoid of her usual life and enthusiasm)'' [[spoiler: Roland's dead?]] Thank you f- thank for... Thank you for telling me. Please go now." "Here. Here. I was saving this for a rainy day, but maybe you can use it to take down Jack. Please go now." Her voice is completely devoid of any life or enthusiasm.



-->'''Tiny Tina''': ''Best [[spoiler:tea party]] ever...''

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-->'''Tiny Tina''': ''Best ''(Completely deadpan)'' Best [[spoiler:tea party]] ever...''



---'''Lilith:''' Who would do this to [[spoiler:their own daughter?]]\\
'''Roland:''' The kind of man who deserves to die.



* In the Caustic Caverns, you can collect ECHO recordings where you learn that the crystalisks were docile, intelligent, and friendly to humans until Dahl ordered them hunted for their valuable crystals. When Booth, the security chief, refused to begin hunting them and actually led a rebellion, the Dahl mining chief shot her dead. To add insult to injury, there's a pickaxe embedded in Booth's headstone, since the last thing she did before getting shot was point out that the mining team only had pickaxes to face off against the security team's guns. The recorder where this is played is on her grave. But the real kicker? The crystalisks apparently not only began attacking the Dahl personnel and humanity in general, but there's a dozen of them on the path leading to said grave, and those crystalisks are implied to be ''guarding'' that grave.

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* In the Caustic Caverns, you can collect ECHO recordings where you learn that the crystalisks were docile, intelligent, and friendly to humans until Dahl ordered them hunted for their valuable crystals. When Booth, the security chief, refused to begin hunting them and actually led a rebellion, the Dahl mining chief shot her dead. To add insult to injury, there's a pickaxe embedded in Booth's headstone, since the last thing she did before getting shot was point out that the mining team only had pickaxes to face off against the security team's guns. The recorder where this is played is on her grave. But the real kicker? The crystalisks apparently not only began attacking the Dahl personnel and humanity in general, but there's a dozen of them on the path leading to said grave, and those crystalisks are implied to be ''guarding'' that grave. Talk about WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.
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