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* Arianna [[MakeTheDogTestify examining Luscinia]] is cute and silly, but [[MoodWhiplash then]] the bird [[spoiler:innocently asks where Ardyn went]]...
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* The DownerEnding in itself is deeply depressing, despite the fact that it was already made clear exactly [[ForegoneConclusion how it would end]] from the start.

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* Church's speech to [[spoiler:C.E.C.E.]] about identity and the choice his team was hit with in the endgame investigation.
-->"I'm not the Alpha anymore, and I haven't been for a long time. I've been told by several people that there's no real point in my wondering who the Alpha was, what he was like. Because I'm not him. Because I'm Leonard Church, and people love me just the way I am."

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* [[spoiler: Church]] is so distraught over [[spoiler: Ardyn's]] death that he, in his grief-stricken fury, [[spoiler: tells Choromatsu to kill himself the same way he killed Ardyn. Choromatsu complies, because he was contemplating killing himself ever since he murdered Ardyn, who had done his best to serve as an emotional rock for the other Champions, and even thinks that he should have done it sooner, only held back by his fear of DyingAlone. His last moments are spent pleading assurance from the survivors that they'll make it through to the end before the last of the medicine works its way through his system.]]

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* [[spoiler: Church]] is so distraught over [[spoiler: Ardyn's]] death that he, in his grief-stricken fury, [[spoiler: tells [[spoiler:tells Choromatsu to kill himself the same way he killed Ardyn. Choromatsu complies, because he was contemplating killing himself ever since he murdered Ardyn, who had done his best to serve as an emotional rock for the other Champions, and even thinks that he should have done it sooner, only held back by his fear of DyingAlone. His last moments are spent pleading assurance from the survivors that they'll make it through to the end before the last of the medicine works its way through his system.]]



* Arianna was a [[HopeBringer consistently bright spot]] in round 2... and this round seems intent on [[TraumaCongaLine making sure]] that [[BreakTheCutie won't happen again]]. As early as week two she breaks hearts by [[spoiler:sitting next to Yuuri's body and holding her hand]], then there's her disastrous attempt to hold a meeting, then [[spoiler:Varric kills Togami]] out of distrust when she's blaming herself for not being able to get the Champions from different rounds to trust each other. Then she starts to show signs of improving... [[HopeSpot right at the beginning of the Week of Terror]], which ends with [[spoiler:Clarith dying in front of her despite frantic use of her order skills]], the culprit turning out to be someone she trusted, and the afterparty replaced by a chaotic WhamEpisode where no one has time to comfort her. [[FromBadToWorse After that]] comes some of the most horrifying motives yet, an even greater emphasis on [[FishOutOfTemporalWater technology she doesn't understand]], and two cases in a row where [[spoiler:both victim and culprit are her remaining close CR from round 2]]. By the end, threads featuring what was once the most unfailingly optimistic character in the game sometimes [[ContentWarnings warn]] for [[DrivenToSuicide suicide ideation]].

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* Arianna was a [[HopeBringer consistently bright spot]] in round 2... and this round seems intent on [[TraumaCongaLine making sure]] that [[BreakTheCutie won't happen again]]. As early as week two she breaks hearts by [[spoiler:sitting next to Yuuri's body and holding She loses her hand]], then there's loved ones constantly, sometimes at the hands of each other, her disastrous attempt attempts to hold a meeting, then [[spoiler:Varric kills Togami]] out of distrust when she's blaming herself for not being able to get lead the other Champions from different rounds to trust each other. Then just end in being shot down, and she starts to show signs of improving... [[HopeSpot right at the beginning of the Week of Terror]], which ends with [[spoiler:Clarith dying in front of her despite frantic use of her order skills]], the culprit turning out to be someone she trusted, and the afterparty replaced by a chaotic WhamEpisode where no one has time to comfort her. [[FromBadToWorse After that]] comes some of the most horrifying motives yet, an even greater emphasis on feels very lost [[FishOutOfTemporalWater technology she doesn't understand]], and two cases in a row where [[spoiler:both victim and culprit are her remaining close CR from round 2]]. space-oriented future]]. By the end, threads featuring what was once the most unfailingly optimistic character in the game sometimes [[ContentWarnings warn]] for [[DrivenToSuicide suicide ideation]].suicidal ideation]].
* [[spoiler:PAL FightingFromTheInside and struggling and failing to undo his 7.0 upgrade.]]
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* Arianna was a [[HopeBringer consistently bright spot]] in round 2... and this round seems intent on [[TraumaCongaLine making sure]] that [[BreakTheCutie won't happen again]]. As early as week two she breaks hearts by [[spoiler:sitting next to Yuuri's body and holding her hand]], then there's her disastrous attempt to hold a meeting, then [[spoiler:Varric kills Togami]] out of distrust when she's blaming herself for not being able to get the Champions from different rounds to trust each other. Then she starts to show signs of improving... [[HopeSpot right at the beginning of the Week of Terror]], which ends with [[spoiler:Clarith dying in front of her despite frantic use of her order skills]], the culprit turning out to be someone she trusted, and the afterparty replaced by a chaotic WhamEpisode where no one has time to comfort her. [[FromBadToWorse After that]] comes some of the most horrifying motives yet, an even greater emphasis on [[FishOutOfTemporalWater technology she doesn't understand]], and two cases in a row where [[spoiler:both victim and culprit are her remaining close CR from round 2]]. By the end, threads featuring what was once the most unfailingly optimistic character in the game sometimes [[ContentWarnings warn]] for [[DrivenToSuicide suicide ideation]].
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* Junpei's blackout poetry for Yuuri.
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* [[spoiler: Church]] is so distraught over [[spoiler: Ardyn's]] death that he, in his grief-stricken fury, [[spoiler: tells Choromatsu to kill himself the same way he killed Ardyn. Choromatsu complies, because he was contemplating killing himself ever since he murdered Ardyn, who had done his best to serve as an emotional rock for the other Champions, and even thinks that he should have done it sooner, only held back by his fear of DyingAlone. His last moments are spent pleading assurance from the survivors that they'll make it through to the end before the last of the medicine works its way through his system.]]
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* The responses to the first ''real'' motive of the round are pretty upsetting, considering it's a hostage motive...and a lot of the hostages are in later season to begin with.

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* The entire Week of Terror. The characters awake to memories of emotionally draining cases that left them unsure of who to trust, Jane discovers evidence that Xander was the Champion Mystery, the motive has their captors kill one MIA Champion every day on a live stream, Xander's mental conditioning rejecting the claims that he's their amnesiac friend starts to take a harsh toll on his mind and body, and [[spoiler:the final hostage? Jamie and C.E.C.E., with their CollectiveIdentity as Lady Consequence revealed just as they're killed and Xander's amnesia finally breaks. Whatever E.P. did to Xander gives him a PsychicNosebleed and eventually makes him faint as he fights back.]] And that's all ''before'' the murder.

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* Case 3. Just... [[TraumaCongaLine Case 3]]. [[spoiler:Those poor Matsuno brothers...]]

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** [[spoiler:Zombina's]] letters she wrote shortly before her death are sad enough, but then [[spoiler:her letter to Karamatsu has her confessing that she's in love with him. We only find this out after he already [[MercyKill helped her kill herself]].]] And thanks to certain events, [[spoiler:he never even gets to read it...]]
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-->'''Rox:''' [[spoiler: Have you broken any rules I missed? Broken a camera, attacked me or Dudely? No? '''[[BreakThemByTalking Then I have no reason to kill you, Osomatsu Matsuno]]]].'''

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-->'''Rox:''' [[spoiler: Have you broken any rules I missed? Broken a camera, attacked me or Dudely? No? '''[[BreakThemByTalking '''[[CruelMercy Then I have no reason to kill you, you,]] [[BreakThemByTalking Osomatsu Matsuno]]]].'''
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* Case 3. Just... [[TraumaCongaLine Case 3]]. [[spoiler:Those poor Matsuno brothers...]]
** TheReveal at the afterparty. [[spoiler:Let's just say that TwinSwitch was involved...]]
** [[HateSink Rox]] brutally [[KickTheDog kicking them while they're still down]] by [[spoiler:basically forcing the now deceased Osomatsu's champion title onto [[AngstySurvivingTwin Karamatsu]].]] And then there's this...
-->'''[[spoiler:[[BreakTheCutie Karamatsu]]]]:''' Y-you...you can't do this to me. ''Please,'' you can't... [[spoiler:I am '''Karamatsu,''' the [[CerebusCallBack p-painful, narcissistic, guilty guy with the long title that e-everyone wants to go away!]] I killed Zombina! You... [[DespairEventHorizon you have to kill me!]]]]
-->'''Rox:''' [[spoiler: Have you broken any rules I missed? Broken a camera, attacked me or Dudely? No? '''[[BreakThemByTalking Then I have no reason to kill you, Osomatsu Matsuno]]]].'''
** And if that wasn't bad enough, we're also unlucky enough to see [[spoiler:[[https://titularly.dreamwidth.org/5019.html?thread=111515#cmt111515 the events leading up to the twin swap.]]]] It's just as heartbreaking as you'd expect.
-->'''[[spoiler:Osomatsu]]:''' [[spoiler:L-Listen, Karamatsu... you don't deserve to die for what you did. You were just trying to save everyone and Wan-chan, and I've... a-all I've done is make everyone mad and make a mess of everything. I.. I-I'm just a [[CerebusCallBack waste of space]], but I don't want to be anymore. So.. switch places with me. Let me prove t-to you, and everyone else that I can be useful for once. [...] I-I... I can't.. I-I don't want to live if I-I have to watch one of my p-precious little brothers die. P-please just... just let me do this for you. ''Please....'']]
** Not to mention [[spoiler:Choromatsu watching this all unfold back at home and completely breaking down.]]
** And the worst part? [[spoiler:It's AllForNothing. Karamatsu ends up dying horribly the very next week.]] ''Ouch.''
* The aftermath of Case 4 has just about everybody having some kind of [[HeroicBSOD breakdown]]. Especially poor [[spoiler: Akira and Kaiba]].
* [[spoiler:Akira]] making his final goodbyes.
* The final case is ultimately kickstarted by [[spoiler:AccidentalMurder]] with a heaping case of [[spoiler:TakingTheBullet and ATragedyOfImpulsiveness]].
** The final trial, where [[KillEmAll almost everyone dies.]] The fact it's a ForegoneConclusion doesn't make it any better.
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* The motive for week 4 is hard enough to consider: the chance to change a single past event, preventing it entirely. Then Pyrrha ends up getting a [[spoiler:Penny doll]] out of the gacha...
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* Jane admitting that [[WistfulAmnesia something]] is keeping her from hating Xander like she "ought to," even if her memory of him is blocked.
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* The DownerEnding in itself is deeply depressing, despite the fact that it was already made clear exactly[[ForegoneConclusion how it would end]] from the start.

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* The captured Champions comforting each other and swearing they they'll get through whatever comes next together as TrueCompanions... just before [[LaserGuidedAmnesia the application for round 5 went up]].

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* [[spoiler: “I think I am going to go to sleep now...

Master will wake me up when he comes back.”]]

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now... Master will wake me up when he comes back.”]]
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* [[spoiler: “I think I am going to go to sleep now...

Master will wake me up when he comes back.”]]
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* Choromatsu's tearful [[YouKilledMyFather confrontation]] with Rox.
-->"I’LL KILL YOU! I’LL FUCKING KILL YOU!! ''GIVE THEM BACK TO ME!'' GIVE OSOMATSU-NIISAN AND KARAMATSU-NIISAN BACK TO ME!!!"
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* The many tearful reunions when Rad opens the channel to talk to the dead, followed by [[spoiler:deadland being shut down]].
* The deadland interns' [[spoiler:capture. Rad comes in prepared, but she's disarmed by what appears to be E.P. [[ShapeshifterGuiltTrip as Blaze Dudely]].]]
* The revelation that [[spoiler:Jaycee was forced to betray the survivors and lead them into a trap]].
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** Prompto's DeathWail/SayMyName at the execution and [[AchillesInHisTent habit of going off to sulk in the aftermath]].
* Luna regains her FairytaleWeddingDress. She misses Noct and doesn't know if she'll ever see him again, so she goes up to the diner in the gown and starts dancing all by herself to the jukebox. The most painful part? Noctis is watching the reruns at home, and after everything he's already seen, this is the point where he can't take it anymore.
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* The entire round is one - every person watching in the survivor pool knows that only two people survive, and there are a ''lot'' of castmates to the survivors in this round. They're watching how the people they love suffered, after realising they never even knew they were gone long before their seasons even aired.
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* Both of the case 1 murders were entirely accidental - with one culprit desperately trying to save their victim and the other having no recollection of the event, let alone the fact they weren't even human when they did it. While the double case itself was already upsetting enough, the reveal of how the culprits are punished with two victims of circumstance was just as bad.
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* The responses to the first ''real'' motive of the round are pretty upsetting, considering it's a hostage motive...and a lot of the hostages are in later season to begin with.
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* In the finale, [[spoiler:Noctis has to MercyKill Blaze Dudely, who's just revealed that he was forced to work for IG7 in a desperate attempt to save what was left of his people. He stabs him through the heart just as Blaze did to Shirou, the round's first PC death.]]
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* Case 3. The culprit killed five people [[spoiler: to bring back his kids, who he just remembered were dead that week.]]
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* The deaths of the SacrificialLamb [=NPCs=] are surprisingly painful, even if the viewers only knew them a week.
* The viewing log during the pirates' invasion. Jane has a HeroicBSOD recognizing Blaze Dudely as her own world's version, and when Church starts jesting about it and Ardyn calls him out on it, he snaps and stalks off with another reminder that Church doesn't care one bit about the Round 1 or 3 cast and doesn't want to.
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* The survivors' rescue mission is mostly action and silliness... but in the aftermath C.E.C.E. reveals that [[spoiler: she doesn't remember Yl'lb]], and there's a messy argument over how to respond to [[spoiler:Yl'lb's offer to let the survivors stay with him]], leading to Clarith [[AchillesInHisTent running away thinking everyone hates her]] and Arianna [[PleaseDontLeaveMe panicking over the thought of the round 2 survivors breaking up]].
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* The fact that most of the murders were sympathetic and usually unintentional, the Champions become GenreSavvy enough to try to prevent them to the point that rules had to be put down to keep that from becoming a GameBreaker, and the cast has endgame-level solidarity and hope ''halfway through the game'' -- and they keep on dying anyway.

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* The fact that most of the murders were sympathetic and usually unintentional, the Champions become GenreSavvy enough to try to prevent them to the point that rules had to be put down to keep that from becoming a GameBreaker, and the cast has endgame-level solidarity and hope ''halfway through the game'' -- and they keep on dying anyway.



* During the power swap motive, Ardyn loses [[spoiler: the [[HatePlague Starscourge]] and turns human, becoming the AllLovingHero he originally was. The tearjerking part is that [[ForegoneConclusion he knows it can't last]] and he'll turn back into a CompleteMonster. ]]

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* During the power swap motive, Ardyn loses [[spoiler: the [[HatePlague Starscourge]] and turns human, becoming the AllLovingHero he originally was. The tearjerking part is that [[ForegoneConclusion he knows it can't last]] and he'll turn back into a CompleteMonster. to evil.]]

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