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* When not being slammed for its blatant CreatorsPet issues and poor writing, as well as causing several lawsuits later on, Ken Penders' [[DorkAge infamous run]] on ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'' had some patently ridiculous storylines and plot elements, with such [[SarcasmMode brilliancy]] as Knuckles' complicated (and [[OnlySixFaces samey]]) family tree, Tails transforming into a buff giant and firing lasers, and a story where real-life children (modeled after Penders' own kin) get sucked into Mobius a la (and named after) ''Film/LastActionHero'', the latter of which wound up being [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0-AF_Ofaw reviewed]] in the [[MilestoneCelebration 100th episode]] of WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall.

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* When not being slammed for its blatant CreatorsPet issues and poor writing, as well as causing several lawsuits later on, Ken Penders' [[DorkAge [[AudienceAlienatingEra infamous run]] on ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'' had some patently ridiculous storylines and plot elements, with such [[SarcasmMode brilliancy]] as Knuckles' complicated (and [[OnlySixFaces samey]]) family tree, Tails transforming into a buff giant and firing lasers, and a story where real-life children (modeled after Penders' own kin) get sucked into Mobius a la (and named after) ''Film/LastActionHero'', the latter of which wound up being [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0-AF_Ofaw reviewed]] in the [[MilestoneCelebration 100th episode]] of WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall.
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** This is one of 13 things (adding up to 25 of his main videos to date) listed here that [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] has covered, and the fact that he clearly considers the very ''existence'' of this comic an abomination against nature makes it [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments one of the most hilarious reviews he's done yet]].
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* The old '70s Marvel book ''ComicBook/{{Champions|1975}}''. The roster was more or less cobbled together, resulting in ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules, ComicBook/BlackWidow, [[Franchise/XMen Angel, Iceman]], and ComicBook/GhostRider sharing a book (it was meant to be just the ''X-Men'' characters, but the development got messy). The team basically just wandered around LA getting into fights with either D-list antagonists from other rogues galleries, or the craziest things Tony Isabella and Bill Mantlo could come up with, including super-strong hobos, Amazons, and power-armored recession victims. Yet in spite of all that, it's kind of charming in how confused and messy it is, as a relic of the days when TheyFightCrime was enough to sell a book, the action and artwork is surprisingly decent, there's no small amount of HoYay, and it features the debut of Swarm, the Nazi made out of bees. The characters involved have referred to it with some frequency since then, [[OldShame usually ruefully]].

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* The old '70s Marvel book ''ComicBook/{{Champions|1975}}''. The roster was more or less cobbled together, resulting in ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules, ComicBook/BlackWidow, [[Franchise/XMen Angel, Iceman]], and ComicBook/GhostRider sharing a book (it was meant to be just the ''X-Men'' characters, but the development got messy). The team basically just wandered around LA getting into fights with either D-list antagonists from other rogues galleries, or the craziest things Tony Isabella and Bill Mantlo could come up with, including super-strong hobos, Amazons, and power-armored recession victims. Yet in spite of all that, it's kind of charming in how confused and messy it is, as a relic of the days when TheyFightCrime crime-fighting was enough to sell a book, the action and artwork is surprisingly decent, there's no small amount of HoYay, and it features the debut of Swarm, the Nazi made out of bees. The characters involved have referred to it with some frequency since then, [[OldShame usually ruefully]].
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* Likewise, fellow Marvel book ''U.S.-1'', a series in which a young trucker named [[AwesomeMcCoolname Ulysses Solomon]] [[FunWithAcronyms Archer]], after surviving a crash, has most of his skull replaced by a metal alloy skull that can pick up CB-radio waves. and his 18-wheeler's armed with smoke screens, oil slick, caltrops, and anti-aircraft mini-missiles that can be controlled by a remote in a silver dollar. One of his villains is a demonic trucker called the Highwayman, who tries to ''kill'' our hero. There is also a love triangle involving U.S., the blonde truck-stop waitress named "Mary [=McGrill=]," and [[FieryRedhead a red-haired female trucker]] named Taryn, complete with catfight-worthy taunts from the girls! And that's not mentioning the villainous blimp-obsessed baron (named Baron von Blimp) and aliens that speak solely in CB-slang.

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* Likewise, fellow Marvel book ''U.S.-1'', a series in which a young trucker named [[AwesomeMcCoolname Ulysses Solomon]] [[FunWithAcronyms Ulysses Solomon Archer]], after surviving a crash, has most of his skull replaced by a metal alloy skull that can pick up CB-radio waves. and his 18-wheeler's armed with smoke screens, oil slick, caltrops, and anti-aircraft mini-missiles that can be controlled by a remote in a silver dollar. One of his villains is a demonic trucker called the Highwayman, who tries to ''kill'' our hero. There is also a love triangle involving U.S., the blonde truck-stop waitress named "Mary [=McGrill=]," and [[FieryRedhead a red-haired female trucker]] named Taryn, complete with catfight-worthy taunts from the girls! And that's not mentioning the villainous blimp-obsessed baron (named Baron von Blimp) and aliens that speak solely in CB-slang.

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* The "[[ProductPlacement Adventures of Kool-Aid Man]]" comic from the early 80's. Featuring the [[{{mascot}} Kool-Aid Man]] as a [[ProductAsSuperhero super hero]] on call 24/7 who battles villains like the sun-shaped [[{{mooks}} Thirsties]] and Scorch [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]] and [[SignatureStyle frequently bursts through walls exclaiming '''OH YEAAHH!!!''']]

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* The "[[ProductPlacement Adventures of Kool-Aid Man]]" comic from the early 80's.'80s. Featuring the [[{{mascot}} Kool-Aid Man]] as a [[ProductAsSuperhero super hero]] on call 24/7 who battles villains like the sun-shaped [[{{mooks}} Thirsties]] and Scorch [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]] and [[SignatureStyle frequently bursts through walls exclaiming '''OH YEAAHH!!!''']]



** There's a story with a villain called Immortus, whose power is that he can summon up mythical and real historical figures to fight for him, like Merlin, Atilla the Hun, Goliath and... Paul Bunyan. Yes, the [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Executioner]] vs Paul Bunyan. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), Immortus was more toned down in later appearances, being known strictly as a time travelling villain.

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** There's a story with a villain called Immortus, whose power is that he can summon up mythical and real historical figures to fight for him, like Merlin, Atilla the Hun, Goliath Goliath, and... Paul Bunyan. Yes, the [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Executioner]] vs vs. Paul Bunyan. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), Immortus was more toned down in later appearances, being known strictly as a time travelling villain.



* The old 70s Marvel book ''ComicBook/{{Champions|1975}}''. The roster was more or less cobbled together, resulting in ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules, ComicBook/BlackWidow, [[Franchise/XMen Angel, Iceman]], and ComicBook/GhostRider sharing a book (it was meant to be just the ''X-Men'' characters, but the development got messy). The team basically just wandered around LA getting into fights with either D-list antagonists from other rogues galleries, or the craziest things Tony Isabella and Bill Mantlo could come up with, including super-strong hobos, Amazons, and power-armored recession victims. Yet in spite of all that, it's kind of charming in how confused and messy it is, as a relic of the days when TheyFightCrime was enough to sell a book, the action and artwork is surprisingly decent, there's no small amount of HoYay, and it features the debut of Swarm, the Nazi made out of bees. The characters involved have referred to it with some frequency since then, [[OldShame usually ruefully]].

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* The old 70s '70s Marvel book ''ComicBook/{{Champions|1975}}''. The roster was more or less cobbled together, resulting in ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules, ComicBook/BlackWidow, [[Franchise/XMen Angel, Iceman]], and ComicBook/GhostRider sharing a book (it was meant to be just the ''X-Men'' characters, but the development got messy). The team basically just wandered around LA getting into fights with either D-list antagonists from other rogues galleries, or the craziest things Tony Isabella and Bill Mantlo could come up with, including super-strong hobos, Amazons, and power-armored recession victims. Yet in spite of all that, it's kind of charming in how confused and messy it is, as a relic of the days when TheyFightCrime was enough to sell a book, the action and artwork is surprisingly decent, there's no small amount of HoYay, and it features the debut of Swarm, the Nazi made out of bees. The characters involved have referred to it with some frequency since then, [[OldShame usually ruefully]].



** Someone has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yc5bnOrSc made a dramatic reading of it]]! ... [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XZ1UECrRk0 And someone else edited it.]]

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** Someone has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yc5bnOrSc made a dramatic reading of it]]! ... [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XZ1UECrRk0 And someone else edited it.]]



--> [[Website/{{Superdickery}} This is ''so'' stupid that it swings all the way around the meter and winds up back in "unbelievably awesome" territory...]]

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--> [[Website/{{Superdickery}} -->[[Website/{{Superdickery}} This is ''so'' stupid that it swings all the way around the meter and winds up back in "unbelievably awesome" territory...]]
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* ''Marvel Team Up'' #74 featuring Franchise/SpiderMan teaming up with the old cast of ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' to defeat Silver Samurai. The cover is hilarious; it has John Belushi, in character as Samurai Fatuba, having a samurai swordfight with Silver Samurai.

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* ''Marvel Team Up'' ''ComicBook/MarvelTeamUp'' #74 featuring Franchise/SpiderMan teaming up with the old cast of ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' to defeat Silver Samurai. The cover is hilarious; it has John Belushi, in character as Samurai Fatuba, having a samurai swordfight with Silver Samurai.
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* ''ComicBook/BatmanOdyssey'', a 12-issue miniseries drawn by Neal Adams. Unfortunately, it's also ''written'' by Neal Adams, leading to bizarre dialogue (Alfred offers to murder somebody, because he "doesn't give a hydroelectric dam about all this flap"), a nonsensical plot (it eventually involves [[EverythingIsBetterWithDinosaurs dinosaurs]]), and general zanyness all around, leading to it becoming an incredibly impressive-looking trainwreck.

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* ''ComicBook/BatmanOdyssey'', a 12-issue miniseries drawn by Neal Adams. Unfortunately, it's also ''written'' by Neal Adams, leading to bizarre dialogue (Alfred offers to murder somebody, because he "doesn't give a hydroelectric dam about all this flap"), a nonsensical plot (it eventually involves [[EverythingIsBetterWithDinosaurs dinosaurs]]), dinosaurs), and general zanyness all around, leading to it becoming an incredibly impressive-looking trainwreck.
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* ''ComicBook/BruteForce'', a four-issue mini series from Marvel in which a hippie scientist has his cyborg gorilla stolen by a group of mercenary clowns. He then makes a team of cyborg animals consisting of a kangaroo, an eagle, a bear, a dolphin, and a lion to fight the evil corporation behind the kidnapping and the destruction of the rainforest. Yes, seriously. Even [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] admitted that it's enjoyably weird and that you ''should'' try to pick it up, if only for the [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Robo-Bear Vs. Cyber-Gorilla fight]] (Which he set to Music/{{Nightwish|Band}}'s [[MemeticMutation "Ghost Love Score"]]), which he considered to be nearly as awesome as Neutro riding on top of a whale. Linkara cited this comic as why he loves comics: no other medium he's seen has moments as bizarrely awesome as clowns taking down a cyborg gorilla.

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* ''ComicBook/BruteForce'', ''ComicBook/{{Brute Force|MarvelComics}}'', a four-issue mini series from Marvel in which a hippie scientist has his cyborg gorilla stolen by a group of mercenary clowns. He then makes a team of cyborg animals consisting of a kangaroo, an eagle, a bear, a dolphin, and a lion to fight the evil corporation behind the kidnapping and the destruction of the rainforest. Yes, seriously. Even [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] admitted that it's enjoyably weird and that you ''should'' try to pick it up, if only for the [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Robo-Bear Vs. Cyber-Gorilla fight]] (Which he set to Music/{{Nightwish|Band}}'s [[MemeticMutation "Ghost Love Score"]]), which he considered to be nearly as awesome as Neutro riding on top of a whale. Linkara cited this comic as why he loves comics: no other medium he's seen has moments as bizarrely awesome as clowns taking down a cyborg gorilla.
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* The half-assed European ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' comics. Intentionally ludicrous translation aside, the plotlines tend to read like they were written by a six-year-old (Or the writers of these comics didn't get the memo to not dumb down the content) and the art seems to have been created by someone who had never seen anything of the show but the basic stock art character models and somehow manages to land squarely in the UncannyValley despite being a cartoon. The result is an almost absurdist take on the setting involving things like [[http://derpibooru.org/30431 the ponies playing soccer]], [[http://derpibooru.org/images/30232 Spike having the exact same expression all the time]], and [[http://derpibooru.org/30280 Pinkie Pie making "enchanted" cookies]].

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* The half-assed European ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' comics. Intentionally ludicrous translation aside, the plotlines tend to read like they were written by a six-year-old (Or the writers of these comics didn't get the memo to not dumb down the content) and the art seems to have been created by someone who had never seen anything of the show but the basic stock art character models and somehow manages to land squarely in the UncannyValley [[UnintentionalUncannyValley Uncanny Valley]] despite being a cartoon. The result is an almost absurdist take on the setting involving things like [[http://derpibooru.org/30431 the ponies playing soccer]], [[http://derpibooru.org/images/30232 Spike having the exact same expression all the time]], and [[http://derpibooru.org/30280 Pinkie Pie making "enchanted" cookies]].
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* ''ComicBook/BruteForce'', a four-issue mini series from Marvel in which a hippie scientist has his cyborg gorilla stolen by a group of mercenary clowns. He then makes a team of cyborg animals consisting of a kangaroo, an eagle, a bear, a dolphin, and a lion to fight the evil corporation behind the kidnapping and the destruction of the rainforest. Yes, seriously. Even [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] admitted that it's enjoyably weird and that you ''should'' try to pick it up, if only for the [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Robo-Bear Vs. Cyber-Gorilla fight]] (Which he set to Music/{{Nightwish}}'s [[MemeticMutation "Ghost Love Score"]]), which he considered to be nearly as awesome as Neutro riding on top of a whale. Linkara cited this comic as why he loves comics: no other medium he's seen has moments as bizarrely awesome as clowns taking down a cyborg gorilla.

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* ''ComicBook/BruteForce'', a four-issue mini series from Marvel in which a hippie scientist has his cyborg gorilla stolen by a group of mercenary clowns. He then makes a team of cyborg animals consisting of a kangaroo, an eagle, a bear, a dolphin, and a lion to fight the evil corporation behind the kidnapping and the destruction of the rainforest. Yes, seriously. Even [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] admitted that it's enjoyably weird and that you ''should'' try to pick it up, if only for the [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Robo-Bear Vs. Cyber-Gorilla fight]] (Which he set to Music/{{Nightwish}}'s Music/{{Nightwish|Band}}'s [[MemeticMutation "Ghost Love Score"]]), which he considered to be nearly as awesome as Neutro riding on top of a whale. Linkara cited this comic as why he loves comics: no other medium he's seen has moments as bizarrely awesome as clowns taking down a cyborg gorilla.
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* ''ComicBook/America2017'' was a solo book for the popular [[ComicBook/YoungAvengers America Chavez]], meant to elevate her character to new heights and give her exposure. Unfortunately, the book was riddled with issues: the author admitted to not reading comics, knew nothing about the character beforehand, had no experience writing for comics, and barely spoke Spanish, despite the characters constantly speaking Spanish, leading to horrible grammar and illogical statements. On top of this, the author would frequently have characters [[AuthorFilibuster say things they wouldn't normally say]] to promote the author's beliefs. The story itself was incoherent, full of plot holes, featured art that was frequently OffModel, and phrases like "Holy menstruation!" that would quickly go viral. All of America's appearances after this book would go on to ignore or outright contradict everything introduced here.
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* Although Creator/ValiantComics produced a number of series that were good enough to stand up on their own merits, Bloodshot certainly counts as this. A basic NinetiesAntiHero ClicheStorm, where the creative staff couldn't decide which direction they wanted to go in, so they went in all of them at once. "He's like Batman! Now he's like The Punisher! Now he's Wolverine!" The result being an experimental super solder created by a Japanese corporation, out of the body of a betrayed Mafia hitman, who wanders the streets of New York in a [[BadassLongcoat trench coat]]. The plots are completely illogical; he gets on a plane, battles assassins and terrorists, falls out, and lands in the jungles of South East Asia, where he goes all Rambo on some random guerrillas. Also random crossovers. A lot of them.

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* Although Creator/ValiantComics produced a number of series that were good enough to stand up on their own merits, Bloodshot ''ComicBook/{{Bloodshot}}'' certainly counts as this. A basic NinetiesAntiHero ClicheStorm, where the creative staff couldn't decide which direction they wanted to go in, so they went in all of them at once. "He's like Batman! Now he's like The Punisher! Now he's Wolverine!" The result being an experimental super solder created by a Japanese corporation, out of the body of a betrayed Mafia hitman, who wanders the streets of New York in a [[BadassLongcoat trench coat]]. The plots are completely illogical; he gets on a plane, battles assassins and terrorists, falls out, and lands in the jungles of South East Asia, where he goes all Rambo on some random guerrillas. Also random crossovers. A lot of them.



* The old 70s Marvel book ''Champions''. The roster was more or less cobbled together, resulting in ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules, ComicBook/BlackWidow, [[Franchise/XMen Angel, Iceman]], and ComicBook/GhostRider sharing a book (it was meant to be just the ''X-Men'' characters, but the development got messy). The team basically just wandered around LA getting into fights with either D-list antagonists from other rogues galleries, or the craziest things Tony Isabella and Bill Mantlo could come up with, including super-strong hobos, Amazons, and power-armored recession victims. Yet in spite of all that, it's kind of charming in how confused and messy it is, as a relic of the days when TheyFightCrime was enough to sell a book, the action and artwork is surprisingly decent, there's no small amount of HoYay, and it features the debut of Swarm, the Nazi made out of bees. The characters involved have referred to it with some frequency since then, [[OldShame usually ruefully.]]

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* The old 70s Marvel book ''Champions''.''ComicBook/{{Champions|1975}}''. The roster was more or less cobbled together, resulting in ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules, ComicBook/BlackWidow, [[Franchise/XMen Angel, Iceman]], and ComicBook/GhostRider sharing a book (it was meant to be just the ''X-Men'' characters, but the development got messy). The team basically just wandered around LA getting into fights with either D-list antagonists from other rogues galleries, or the craziest things Tony Isabella and Bill Mantlo could come up with, including super-strong hobos, Amazons, and power-armored recession victims. Yet in spite of all that, it's kind of charming in how confused and messy it is, as a relic of the days when TheyFightCrime was enough to sell a book, the action and artwork is surprisingly decent, there's no small amount of HoYay, and it features the debut of Swarm, the Nazi made out of bees. The characters involved have referred to it with some frequency since then, [[OldShame usually ruefully.]]ruefully]].



* Lobo's entire reason for existing is that he's so ridiculously over the top that it's hilarious.

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* Lobo's ComicBook/{{Lobo}}'s entire reason for existing is that he's so ridiculously over the top that it's hilarious.



* Speaking of Superman, the comic ''Superman's Pal ComicBook/JimmyOlsen'' was always a goldmine of "so bad it's good." But the comic ''was'' responsible for ''The ComicBook/NewGods'', so it wasn't ''all'' bad.
** So was ''Superman's Girlfriend ComicBook/LoisLane'', except without the New Gods.

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* Speaking of Superman, the comic ''Superman's Pal ComicBook/JimmyOlsen'' ''ComicBook/SupermansPalJimmyOlsen'' was always a goldmine of "so bad it's good." But the comic ''was'' responsible for ''The ComicBook/NewGods'', so it wasn't ''all'' bad.
** So was ''Superman's Girlfriend ComicBook/LoisLane'', ''ComicBook/SupermansGirlFriendLoisLane'', except without the New Gods.
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* ''ComicBook/BruteForce'', a four-issue mini series from Marvel in which a hippie scientist has his cyborg gorilla stolen by a group of mercenary clowns. He then makes a team of cyborg animals consisting of a kangaroo, an eagle, a bear, a dolphin, and a lion to fight the evil corporation behind the kidnapping and the destruction of the rainforest. Yes, seriously. Even [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] addressed that it's a SoBadItsGood comic and that you ''should'' try to pick it up, if only for the [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Robo-Bear Vs. Cyber-Gorilla fight]] (Which he set to Music/{{Nightwish}}'s [[MemeticMutation "Ghost Love Score"]]), which he considered to be nearly as awesome as Neutro riding on top of a whale. Linkara cited this comic as why he loves comics: no other medium he's seen has moments as bizarrely awesome as clowns taking down a cyborg gorilla.

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* ''ComicBook/BruteForce'', a four-issue mini series from Marvel in which a hippie scientist has his cyborg gorilla stolen by a group of mercenary clowns. He then makes a team of cyborg animals consisting of a kangaroo, an eagle, a bear, a dolphin, and a lion to fight the evil corporation behind the kidnapping and the destruction of the rainforest. Yes, seriously. Even [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] addressed admitted that it's a SoBadItsGood comic enjoyably weird and that you ''should'' try to pick it up, if only for the [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Robo-Bear Vs. Cyber-Gorilla fight]] (Which he set to Music/{{Nightwish}}'s [[MemeticMutation "Ghost Love Score"]]), which he considered to be nearly as awesome as Neutro riding on top of a whale. Linkara cited this comic as why he loves comics: no other medium he's seen has moments as bizarrely awesome as clowns taking down a cyborg gorilla.
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* ''Godzilla vs. Charles Barkley''. [[http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/11/11/10-worst-athlete-merchandising-mistakes/GodzillaGotBusy.jpg This picture sums it up nicely.]]

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* ''Godzilla vs. Charles Barkley''. [[http://cdn2.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20150802132734/http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/11/11/10-worst-athlete-merchandising-mistakes/GodzillaGotBusy.jpg This picture sums it up nicely.]]
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* Likewise, fellow Marvel book ''U.S.-1'', a series in which a young trucker named [[AwesomeMcCoolname Ulysses Solomon]] [[FunWithAcronyms Archer]], after surviving a crash, has most of his skull replaced by a metal alloy skull that can pick up CB-radio waves. One of his villains is a demonic trucker called the Highwayman, who tries to ''kill'' our hero. There is also a love triangle involving U.S., the blonde truck-stop waitress named "Mary [=McGrill=]," and [[FieryRedhead a red-haired female trucker]] named Taryn, complete with catfight-worthy taunts from the girls!

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* Likewise, fellow Marvel book ''U.S.-1'', a series in which a young trucker named [[AwesomeMcCoolname Ulysses Solomon]] [[FunWithAcronyms Archer]], after surviving a crash, has most of his skull replaced by a metal alloy skull that can pick up CB-radio waves. and his 18-wheeler's armed with smoke screens, oil slick, caltrops, and anti-aircraft mini-missiles that can be controlled by a remote in a silver dollar. One of his villains is a demonic trucker called the Highwayman, who tries to ''kill'' our hero. There is also a love triangle involving U.S., the blonde truck-stop waitress named "Mary [=McGrill=]," and [[FieryRedhead a red-haired female trucker]] named Taryn, complete with catfight-worthy taunts from the girls!girls! And that's not mentioning the villainous blimp-obsessed baron (named Baron von Blimp) and aliens that speak solely in CB-slang.
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** While attempting to read the comics cold is not recommended (being about as close to a BrownNote as is possible in RealLife), [[http://comicsalliance.com/batman-odyssey-neal-adams-insane/ this "deconstruction"]] can serve as a good starting point. In addition, dramatic readings of the first five isuues can be found [[https://www.youtube.com/user/DavidXanitos/videos here]] ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YJHCekr8CE first issue]]). If nothing else, check out [[https://p.dreamwidth.org/06ad5995f5d7/-/www.abload.de/img/66wzxe.jpg these]] [[http://i.imgur.com/30AsS.jpg excerpts]], showing Robin's reaction after he discovered the identity of his parents's murderer, [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext by looking it up on Wikipedia, while riding a giant bat]].

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** While attempting to read the comics cold is not recommended (being about as close to a BrownNote as is possible in RealLife), [[http://comicsalliance.com/batman-odyssey-neal-adams-insane/ this "deconstruction"]] can serve as a good starting point. In addition, dramatic readings of the first five isuues issues can be found [[https://www.youtube.com/user/DavidXanitos/videos here]] ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YJHCekr8CE first issue]]). If nothing else, check out [[https://p.dreamwidth.org/06ad5995f5d7/-/www.abload.de/img/66wzxe.jpg these]] [[http://i.imgur.com/30AsS.jpg excerpts]], showing Robin's reaction after he discovered the identity of his parents's murderer, [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext by looking it up on Wikipedia, while riding a giant bat]].
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* ''Franchise/{{Superman}} vs. Muhammed Ali''. 'Nuff said. Art's nice though.

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* ''Franchise/{{Superman}} vs. Muhammed Ali''. 'Nuff said.An alien-depowered Supes [[https://www.cracked.com/article_16031_the-5-most-insane-celebrity-comic-book-cameos.html vs]] an overly egotistical and smartass Ali. But they never actually fight. And Ali figures out Supes' identity. Somehow. Art's nice though.
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* When not being slammed for its blatant CreatorsPet issues and poor writing, as well as causing several lawsuits later on, Ken Penders' [[DorkAge infamous run]] on ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'' had some patently ridiculous storylines and plot elements, with such [[SarcasmMode brilliancy]] as Knuckles' complicated (and [[OnlySixFaces samey]]) family tree, Tails transforming into a buff giant and firing lasers, and a story where real-life children (modeled after Penders' own kin) get sucked into Mobius a la (and named after) ''Film/LastActionHero'', the latter of which wound up being [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0-AF_Ofaw reviewed]] in the [[MilestoneCelebration 100th episode]] of WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall.

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* When not being slammed for its blatant CreatorsPet issues and poor writing, as well as causing several lawsuits later on, Ken Penders' [[DorkAge infamous run]] on ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'' ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'' had some patently ridiculous storylines and plot elements, with such [[SarcasmMode brilliancy]] as Knuckles' complicated (and [[OnlySixFaces samey]]) family tree, Tails transforming into a buff giant and firing lasers, and a story where real-life children (modeled after Penders' own kin) get sucked into Mobius a la (and named after) ''Film/LastActionHero'', the latter of which wound up being [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0-AF_Ofaw reviewed]] in the [[MilestoneCelebration 100th episode]] of WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall.
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* When not being slammed for it's blatant CreatorsPet issues and poor writing, as well as causing several lawsuits later on, Ken Penders' [[DorkAge infamous run]] on ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'' had some patently ridiculous storylines and plot elements, with such [[SarcasmMode brilliancy]] as Knuckles' complicated (and [[OnlySixFaces samey]]) family tree, Tails transforming into a buff giant and firing lasers, and a story where real-life children (modeled after Penders' own kin) get sucked into Mobius a la (and named after) ''Film/LastActionHero'', the latter of which wound up being [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0-AF_Ofaw reviewed]] in the [[MilestoneCelebration 100th episode]] of WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall.

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* When not being slammed for it's its blatant CreatorsPet issues and poor writing, as well as causing several lawsuits later on, Ken Penders' [[DorkAge infamous run]] on ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'' had some patently ridiculous storylines and plot elements, with such [[SarcasmMode brilliancy]] as Knuckles' complicated (and [[OnlySixFaces samey]]) family tree, Tails transforming into a buff giant and firing lasers, and a story where real-life children (modeled after Penders' own kin) get sucked into Mobius a la (and named after) ''Film/LastActionHero'', the latter of which wound up being [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0-AF_Ofaw reviewed]] in the [[MilestoneCelebration 100th episode]] of WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall.
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The trope is for for a single troper's opinion, it requires outside consensus that the work is bad. Ultimate Avengers's reviews in Good Reads have an average of 3.2 of 5, see https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12843527-ultimate-comics-avengers-by-mark-millar-omnibus


* Though Mark Millar's ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'' and its first sequel are generally seen as good (if somewhat poorly-aging), his eventual followup ''Ultimate Comics: Avengers'' falls pretty squarely into this. The heroes, meant to be a skilled covert team, are [[DesignatedHero completely incompetent and utterly amoral]], the dialogue is often bizarrely laughable, DarkerAndEdgier runs amock, and [[MoodWhiplash the tone shoots wildly back and forth]] between po-faced plotting and high-concept insanity, including such things as power-armored vampires, a black genius Hulk drug dealer, Nick Fury cheating on his wife with every woman in her phonebook, and Tony Stark's secret twin brother who's better in every way. A fair number of readers have pondered if it was a StealthParody, perhaps best described by a quote by Hawkeye after watching the team level multiple city blocks in broad daylight.
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->''"And really, is there anything more awesome than seeing ''Creator/BruceCampbell'' taking out zombie superheroes? Well, okay, yes, but it's hard to top [[ComicBook/BruteForce Robo-Bear versus Cyber-Gorilla]]."''



--> -- '''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]''', on ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies vs ComicBook/ArmyOfDarkness'' and the ''Game Boy'' comics


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* ''ComicBook/BatmanOdyssey'', a 12-issue miniseries drawn by Neal Adams. Unfortunately, it's also ''written'' by Neal Adams, leading to {{OOC}} dialogue (Alfred offers to murder somebody, because he "doesn't give a hydroelectric dam about all this flap"), a nonsensical plot (it eventually involves [[EverythingIsBetterWithDinosaurs dinosaurs]]), and general zanyness all around, leading to it becoming an incredibly impressive-looking trainwreck.

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* ''ComicBook/BatmanOdyssey'', a 12-issue miniseries drawn by Neal Adams. Unfortunately, it's also ''written'' by Neal Adams, leading to {{OOC}} bizarre dialogue (Alfred offers to murder somebody, because he "doesn't give a hydroelectric dam about all this flap"), a nonsensical plot (it eventually involves [[EverythingIsBetterWithDinosaurs dinosaurs]]), and general zanyness all around, leading to it becoming an incredibly impressive-looking trainwreck.
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* Creator/FrankMiller's ''[[ComicBook/AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder All-Star Batman & Robin]]'' (a.k.a. "ASBAR"). ASBAR is an attempt at retelling Batman's earliest adventures with Robin... except Miller writes Batman as a complete and total lunatic who calls himself "the goddamn Batman" and whose actions make no sense. Meanwhile, the Joker is humorless, Robin eats rats, Superman is a bumbling idiot, and Wonder Woman is a StrawFeminist extremist who calls men sperm banks and advocates castrating all men. The first chapter has three pages of gratuitous close-ups of Vicki Vale wearing pink lingerie while gushing over how hot Bruce Wayne is. Green Lantern gets to deliver the immortal line "Damn you AND your lemonade!" Also, Frankie would like to remind you that Dick Grayson, age 12, is in fact 12 years old. He reminds you of this ''[[RunningGag every time Dick's name appears in print]].'' [[http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox7/ Vicariously]] [[http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox20/ witness]] it in all [[http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox30/default.php its glory.]] It also doesn't have a timeline as much as a time-mess. Because, if the time given is to be believed, Batman apparently drives around for days considering that Superman is shown seeing Dick's FaceOnAMilkCarton (yes, apparently they still have milk cartons and people put faces on them in Metropolis) while Batman was still driving around with Dick in the car.

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* Creator/FrankMiller's ''[[ComicBook/AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder All-Star Batman & Robin]]'' (a.k.a. "ASBAR"). ASBAR is an attempt at retelling Batman's earliest adventures with Robin... except Miller writes Batman as a complete and total lunatic who calls himself "the goddamn Batman" and whose actions make no sense. Meanwhile, the Joker is humorless, Robin eats rats, Superman is a bumbling idiot, and Wonder Woman is a StrawFeminist extremist who calls men sperm banks and advocates castrating all men. The first chapter has three pages of gratuitous close-ups of Vicki Vale wearing pink lingerie while gushing over how hot Bruce Wayne is. Green Lantern gets to deliver the immortal line "Damn you AND your lemonade!" Also, Frankie would like to remind you that Dick Grayson, age 12, is in fact 12 years old. He reminds you of this ''[[RunningGag ''[[ViewersAreGoldfish every time Dick's name appears in print]].'' [[http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox7/ Vicariously]] [[http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox20/ witness]] it in all [[http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox30/default.php its glory.]] It also doesn't have a timeline as much as a time-mess. Because, if the time given is to be believed, Batman apparently drives around for days considering that Superman is shown seeing Dick's FaceOnAMilkCarton (yes, apparently they still have milk cartons and people put faces on them in Metropolis) while Batman was still driving around with Dick in the car.
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* ''ComicBook/SupermanAtEarthsEnd'' is a perfect example of an attempt to make a character DarkerAndEdgier that fails. ''Completely''. It combines bizarre homages to the Adam West Batman TV show (Thousand year atomic batteries? A gun on display labeled "the gun that killed my parents"?) with strange attempts to be ''every cliché of the UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks'' (Motorcycle riding child gangs? Superman growing a ridiculously huge beard? Story taking place after not one, but ''two'' apocalypses?) And the villains: TWIN CLONES OF HITLER (made by WAYNE LABORATORIES!) Why?... It's not explained.

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* ''ComicBook/SupermanAtEarthsEnd'' is a perfect example of an attempt to make a character DarkerAndEdgier that fails. ''Completely''. It combines bizarre homages to the Adam West Batman TV show (Thousand year atomic batteries? A gun on display labeled "the gun that killed my parents"?) with strange attempts to be ''every cliché of the UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks'' (Motorcycle riding child gangs? Superman growing a ridiculously huge beard? Story taking place after not one, but ''two'' apocalypses?) apocalypses?). And the villains: TWIN CLONES OF HITLER (made by WAYNE LABORATORIES!) LABORATORIES)! Why?... It's not explained.
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* ''ComicBook/JohnnyTurbo''. It's cheesy video game propaganda at its finest, and very silly and over the top because of how seriously it takes itself.

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* The old 70s Marvel book ''Champions''. The roster was more or less cobbled together, resulting in ComicBook/{{Hercules}}, ComicBook/BlackWidow, [[Franchise/XMen Angel, Iceman]], and ComicBook/GhostRider sharing a book (it was meant to be just the ''X-Men'' characters, but the development got messy). The team basically just wandered around LA getting into fights with either D-list antagonists from other rogues galleries, or the craziest things Tony Isabella and Bill Mantlo could come up with, including super-strong hobos, Amazons, and power-armored recession victims. Yet in spite of all that, it's kind of charming in how confused and messy it is, as a relic of the days when TheyFightCrime was enough to sell a book, the action and artwork is surprisingly decent, there's no small amount of HoYay, and it features the debut of Swarm, the Nazi made out of bees. The characters involved have referred to it with some frequency since then, [[OldShame usually ruefully.]]

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* The old 70s Marvel book ''Champions''. The roster was more or less cobbled together, resulting in ComicBook/{{Hercules}}, ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules, ComicBook/BlackWidow, [[Franchise/XMen Angel, Iceman]], and ComicBook/GhostRider sharing a book (it was meant to be just the ''X-Men'' characters, but the development got messy). The team basically just wandered around LA getting into fights with either D-list antagonists from other rogues galleries, or the craziest things Tony Isabella and Bill Mantlo could come up with, including super-strong hobos, Amazons, and power-armored recession victims. Yet in spite of all that, it's kind of charming in how confused and messy it is, as a relic of the days when TheyFightCrime was enough to sell a book, the action and artwork is surprisingly decent, there's no small amount of HoYay, and it features the debut of Swarm, the Nazi made out of bees. The characters involved have referred to it with some frequency since then, [[OldShame usually ruefully.]]
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* The old 70s Marvel book ''Champions''. The roster was more or less cobbled together, resulting in ComicBook/{{Hercules}}, ComicBook/BlackWidow, [[Franchise/XMen Angel, Iceman]], and ComicBook/GhostRider sharing a book (it was meant to be just the ''X-Men'' characters, but the development got messy). The team basically just wandered around LA getting into fights with either D-list antagonists from other rogues galleries, or the craziest things Tony Isabella and Bill Mantlo could come up with, including super-strong hobos, Amazons, and power-armored recession victims. Yet in spite of all that, it's kind of charming in how confused and messy it is, as a relic of the days when TheyFightCrime was enough to sell a book, the action and artwork is surprisingly decent, there's no small amount of HoYay, and it features the debut of Swarm, the Nazi made out of bees. The characters involved have referred to it with some frequency since then, [[OldShame usually ruefully.]]
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* Though Mark Millar's ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'' and its first sequel are generally seen as good (if somewhat poorly-aging), his eventual followup ''Ultimate Comics: Avengers'' falls pretty squarely into this. The heroes, meant to be a skilled covert team, are [[DesignatedHero completely incompetent and utterly amoral]], the dialogue is often bizarrely laughable, DarkerAndEdgier runs amock, and [[MoodWhiplash the tone shoots wildly back and forth]] between po-faced plotting and high-concept insanity, including such things as power-armored vampires, a black genius Hulk drug dealer, Nick Fury cheating on his wife with every woman in her phonebook, and Tony Stark's secret twin brother who's better in every way. A fair number of readers have pondered if it was a StealthParody, perhaps best described by a quote by Hawkeye after watching the team level multiple city blocks in broad daylight.
-->"My god. We're supposed to be black ops."
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* Likewise, fellow Marvel book ''U.S.-1'', a series in which a young trucker, after surviving a crash, has most of his skull replaced by a metal alloy skull that can pick up CB-radio waves. One of his villains is a demonic trucker called the Highwayman, who tries to ''kill'' our hero. There is also a love triangle involving U.S., the blonde truck-stop waitress named "Mary [=McGrill=]," and [[FieryRedhead a red-haired female trucker]] named Taryn, complete with catfight-worthy taunts from the girls!

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* Likewise, fellow Marvel book ''U.S.-1'', a series in which a young trucker, trucker named [[AwesomeMcCoolname Ulysses Solomon]] [[FunWithAcronyms Archer]], after surviving a crash, has most of his skull replaced by a metal alloy skull that can pick up CB-radio waves. One of his villains is a demonic trucker called the Highwayman, who tries to ''kill'' our hero. There is also a love triangle involving U.S., the blonde truck-stop waitress named "Mary [=McGrill=]," and [[FieryRedhead a red-haired female trucker]] named Taryn, complete with catfight-worthy taunts from the girls!
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* ''ComicBook/America2017'', stars America Chavez in [[BreakoutCharacter her first solo issue.]] Unfortunately, the writer of the book was Gabby Rivera, a woman who proudly admits to never reading comics and hating straight white people. What results is a story that is filled with [[AuthorTract Author Tracts]] where every straight white character (except the editor-mandated Kate Bishop cameo) is unambiguously evil, nearly every character is a lesbian or bisexual, and the writer has slipped in ''multiple'' self-insert characters for herself. In terms of story quality, the plot is [[RandomEventsPlot incoherent]] and full of plot holes, GratuitousSpanish is thrown about despite the author doesn't actually ''know'' Spanish, there are multiple instances of spelling mistakes and art errors, nearly every character is OutOfCharacter, And Kate Bishop is reduced to a lesbian-obsessed sidekick who goes on a long speech about loving lesbians.

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