History SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism / Film

14th Jan '18 3:26:17 PM nombretomado
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* The major reason why ''[[LifeIsBeautiful La vita è bella]]'' was so critically acclaimed was thanks to its ability to keep a fluffy idealist tone ''in the middle of a freaking concentration camp''. It also sparked controversy for [[DudeNotFunny having a sympathetic protagonist trying to distract from the horrors of the Holocaust with slapstick]].

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* The major reason why ''[[LifeIsBeautiful ''[[Film/LifeIsBeautiful La vita è bella]]'' was so critically acclaimed was thanks to its ability to keep a fluffy idealist tone ''in the middle of a freaking concentration camp''. It also sparked controversy for [[DudeNotFunny having a sympathetic protagonist trying to distract from the horrors of the Holocaust with slapstick]].
10th Jan '18 6:57:14 PM 64SuperNintendo
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** In contrast ''Film/BatmanForever'' and ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' are heavily on the idealistic side

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** In contrast contrast, ''Film/BatmanForever'' and ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' are heavily on the idealistic side
6th Jan '18 6:36:56 PM costanton11
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* Films by JohnHughes are usually very cynical about something but are still feel-good or heartfelt movies with a warm emotional sentiment somewhere.

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* Films by JohnHughes Creator/JohnHughes are usually very cynical about something but are still feel-good or heartfelt movies with a warm emotional sentiment somewhere.
21st Nov '17 6:38:32 AM XenMon2
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* WWII ''Film/PlayDirty'' starts out with the (Allied) captain of a group of murderers and rapists being bribed by a general (who himself has the ethics of a sewer snake) to not [[UnfriendlyFire murder his commanding officer]] on his next mission. It only gets more cynical from there as the suicide mission they're sent on proves to be completely pointless mission is proved to be completely pointless, and chucks in a downbeat ending ending of casual brutality that just hammers home the point.

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* WWII ''Film/PlayDirty'' starts out with the (Allied) captain of a group of murderers and rapists being bribed by a general (who himself has the ethics of a sewer snake) to not [[UnfriendlyFire murder his commanding officer]] on his next mission. It only gets more cynical from there as the suicide mission they're sent on proves to be completely pointless mission is proved to be completely pointless, and chucks in a downbeat ending ending of casual brutality that just hammers home the point.point. It's the kind of war movie that could only have been made in the midst of the Vietnam War.
21st Nov '17 6:37:52 AM XenMon2
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* WWII ''Film/PlayDirty'' starts out with the (Allied) captain of a group of murderers and rapists being bribed by a general (who himself has the ethics of a sewer snake) to not [[UnfriendlyFire murder his commanding officer]] on his next mission. It only gets more cynical from there as the suicide mission they're sent on proves to be completely pointless mission is proved to be completely pointless, and chucks in a downbeat ending ending of casual brutality that just hammers home the point.
21st Nov '17 12:16:57 AM Robotnik
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* Most films by Creator/QuentinTarantino average out somwhere in the middle of the spectrum, leaning more towards, perhaps counterintuitively, the idealistic side; violence that would otherwise be very cynical becomes strangely idealistic through either absurd BlackComedy or righteous motivation, and characters who behave cynically nonetheless usually manage to achieve their goals and be "good" (relatively speaking); if they don't, they'll probably at least FaceDeathWithDignity. See ''Film/DjangoUnchained'' or ''Film/PulpFiction'' for examples.
18th Oct '17 6:48:59 PM Malady
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* CharlieKaufman 's work is usually cynical in tone, but surprisingly still optimistic at its core.
* Films by StevenSpielberg are usually full of optimism and wonder, even those that portray the harsh realities.
* RichardLinklater films differentiate on the scale, but several end on a believable HopeSpot.

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* CharlieKaufman 's Creator/CharlieKaufman's work is usually cynical in tone, but surprisingly still optimistic at its core.
* Films by StevenSpielberg Creator/StevenSpielberg are usually full of optimism and wonder, even those that portray the harsh realities.
* RichardLinklater Creator/RichardLinklater films differentiate on the scale, but several end on a believable HopeSpot.



* ''Film/TheHunt'' is critical of human behaviour and prejudice, particularly when it comes to assumptions and gossip. A little girl named Klara rapidly develops an [[{{Main/PrecociousCrush}} unhealthy obsession]] with her kindergarten teacher, Lucas. After she kisses him on the lips during school playtime, he is quick to rebuff her infatuation. [[{{Main/NotGoodWithRejection}} In a childish rage]], she unwittingly implies to the head teacher that he has sexually abused her. This lie begins to [[{{Main/SnowballLie}} mutate and grow]], and Lucas is ostracized by his community. Even though it's proven he's not a pedophile, and Klara eventually openly admits to making it up, he is still voraciously hated by some of his peers.

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* ''Film/TheHunt'' is critical of human behaviour and prejudice, particularly when it comes to assumptions and gossip. A little girl named Klara rapidly develops an [[{{Main/PrecociousCrush}} [[PrecociousCrush unhealthy obsession]] with her kindergarten teacher, Lucas. After she kisses him on the lips during school playtime, he is quick to rebuff her infatuation. [[{{Main/NotGoodWithRejection}} [[NotGoodWithRejection In a childish rage]], she unwittingly implies to the head teacher that he has sexually abused her. This lie begins to [[{{Main/SnowballLie}} [[SnowballLie mutate and grow]], and Lucas is ostracized by his community. Even though it's proven he's not a pedophile, and Klara eventually openly admits to making it up, he is still voraciously hated by some of his peers.
12th Oct '17 8:11:34 PM MackWylde
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* Films by JohnHughes are usually very cynical about something but are still feel-good or heartfelt movies with a warm emotional sentiment somewhere.
6th Oct '17 9:14:32 AM DecafGrub47393
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** Then came [[Film/TwentyEightWeeksLater the sequel]], [[spoiler: in which there is utterly no hope.]]

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** Then came [[Film/TwentyEightWeeksLater the sequel]], [[spoiler: in which there is utterly no hope.]]
21st Sep '17 7:10:36 PM MackWylde
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* CharlieKaufman 's work is usually cynical in tone, but surprisingly still optimistic at its core.
* Films by StevenSpielberg are usually full of optimism and wonder, even those that portray the harsh realities.
* RichardLinklater films differentiate on the scale, but several end on a believable HopeSpot.
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