History SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism / Film

1st Dec '16 2:55:47 PM fgenzo159
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Actually, ''Film/TheTrumanShow'' could be said to have even bigger dystopian cynical moments. And that's also forgetting Allie Fox, his most cynical hero, in ''Film/TheMosquitoCoast''

to:

** Actually, ''Film/TheTrumanShow'' could be said to have even bigger dystopian cynical moments. And that's also forgetting Allie Fox, his most cynical hero, in ''Film/TheMosquitoCoast''''Film/TheMosquitoCoast''.
1st Dec '16 2:54:08 PM fgenzo159
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Actually, ''Film/TheTrumanShow'' could be said to have even bigger dystopian cynical moments. And that's also forgetting Allie Fox, his most cynical hero, in ''Film/TheMosquitoCoast''
27th Nov '16 8:23:30 PM jedidarrick
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Villenueve's next film, ''Film/Arrival'' leans much more on the idealistic side of the scale.

to:

** Villenueve's next film, ''Film/Arrival'' ''Film/{{Arrival}}'' leans much more on the idealistic side of the scale. The protagonist [[spoiler: is able to save the day by using her ability to see future events.]]
27th Nov '16 8:21:40 PM jedidarrick
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

** Villenueve's next film, ''Film/Arrival'' leans much more on the idealistic side of the scale.
25th Oct '16 6:01:59 PM siberia82
Is there an issue? Send a Message


%% * ''Film/XMen'': You could call the trope: Xavier vs. Magneto.

to:

%% * ''Film/XMen'': You could call Throughout the trope: Xavier vs. Magneto.''Film/XMenFilmSeries'', Professor X and Magneto are traditionally at the opposite ends of this scale, but in ''Film/XMenApocalypse'''s denouement, they have both taken a step towards the middle. Xavier's actions during the FinalBattle are a subtle acknowledgement that in extreme circumstances, he'll do ''whatever'' it takes to SaveTheWorld, even if it means committing murder. Erik appreciates this new, hardened edge in his old friend, and his respect for Charles is even greater than in the original timeline. [[spoiler:Because they've reconciled,]] it hints that Magneto intends to tone down his warmongering and will be more open to negotiation with the Professor the next time there is a major incident between mutants and humans. From director Creator/BryanSinger's commentary:
-->"Well, the two men have never been more similar in their whole relationship as they have in this moment."
26th Jul '16 9:40:20 PM Premonition45
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Speaking of ''Creator/ChristopherNolan'', his most recent film, ''Film/{{Interstellar}}'' proved to be even more idealistic, given its themes of humanity solving its problems and the love of family. It certainly helps that the generally very idealistic ''Creator/StevenSpielberg'' was clearly an inspiration for much of the film.

to:

* Speaking of ''Creator/ChristopherNolan'', his most recent later film, ''Film/{{Interstellar}}'' proved to be even more idealistic, given its themes of humanity solving its problems and the love of family. It certainly helps that the generally very idealistic ''Creator/StevenSpielberg'' was clearly an inspiration for much of the film.
15th Jun '16 6:32:55 PM Doug86
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Film/ALeagueOfTheirOwn'', a Penny Marshall's film BasedOnATrueStory of women's baseball while the male players were out fighting in WorldWarII, is a cynical take on the gender role in the American society and as a result several absurd requirements for female players to place beauty over ability in the ballpark.

to:

* ''Film/ALeagueOfTheirOwn'', a Penny Marshall's film BasedOnATrueStory of women's baseball while the male players were out fighting in WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, is a cynical take on the gender role in the American society and as a result several absurd requirements for female players to place beauty over ability in the ballpark.
15th May '16 9:29:56 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The MarvelCinematicUniverse, as a whole, tends strongly to the idealistic side, which provides an interesting contrast to Creator/MarkMillar's very cynical [[TheUltimates Ultimates]] comic book run, which a lot of the movie continuity takes elements from. However, there are still some [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet moments]], if the endings for both ''Film/{{Thor}}'' and ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' are any proof.

to:

* The MarvelCinematicUniverse, Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, as a whole, tends strongly to the idealistic side, which provides an interesting contrast to Creator/MarkMillar's very cynical [[TheUltimates Ultimates]] comic book run, which a lot of the movie continuity takes elements from. However, there are still some [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet moments]], if the endings for both ''Film/{{Thor}}'' and ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' are any proof.
8th Mar '16 11:22:31 AM LongTallShorty64
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* The film ''Film/AForeignAffair'' lies somewhere in between. Since it's about postwar Berlin, it has its cynical view of American occupation, and the destroyed lives and city. But it shows its idealistic side; people are shown as resilient against the backdrop of hardship, and that their hardworking spirit lives on.
20th Feb '16 10:01:32 AM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** A major part of the conflict in ''Film/TheAvengers'' stems from Steve Rogers' "outdated and irrelevant" idealism clashing head on with Tony Stark's hedonistic and materialistic cynicism. Ironically, Steve and Howard (Tony's father) were friends and allies during World War II.

to:

** A major part of the conflict in ''Film/TheAvengers'' ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' stems from Steve Rogers' "outdated and irrelevant" idealism clashing head on with Tony Stark's hedonistic and materialistic cynicism. Ironically, Steve and Howard (Tony's father) were friends and allies during World War II.
This list shows the last 10 events of 115. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism.Film