History ShipToShipCombat / LiveACtionTV

* ''Series/{{Ahsoka}}'' may as well be called ''Everybody Wants the Mandalorian'' in shipping: [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Sabine]] has been paired with just about every character she's shared screen time with. The two most popular are [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Ezra]] (carried over from ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' - beware as a chunk of ''Rebels'' fans will also consider it FandomHeresy to ship them, while the other half accuses anti-shippers of not having watched the same show and ''not'' shipping them is the true FandomHeresy[[labelnote:note]]yes this ''is'' basically a "two Popes excommunicate each other" situation[[/labelnote]]) and [[FoeYayShipping Shin]] [[LesYay Hatti]], but she's also been paired with [[MentorShip Ahsoka]], [[WarShip Baylan and Thrawn]], and even [[CrackShip one of the random]] [[InterspeciesRomance Noti]] (none of which are ''even [[NominalImportance given names]]'' in the series) or [[BestialityIsDepraved her howler]]. There's also a chunk of fans who believe Sabine is [[BrokenBird too traumatized from her losses during the war]] to have a healthy romantic relationship with ''anyone'', and a smaller chunk who believe she's an aromantic asexual and wouldn't ''want'' to be with anyone, and these two groups will band together to fight any of the shipping fans (who may or may not put aside their differences when returning fire). Basically, who the {{Deuteragonist}} ends up with is SeriousBusiness.

* ''Series/{{Degrassi}}'''s Season 9 movie seemed to spark this, as the canon pairing became Spinner/Emma which annoyed all Sean/Emma and Spinner/Jane fans. Before that, there was Sean/Emma vs. Sean/Ellie, Sean/Ellie vs. Craig/Ellie, Craig/'female character' vs. Craig/'female character' vs. ''[[HoYay Craig/'Male character']]'', Declan/Holly J vs. Spinner/Holly J, Declan/Holly J vs. Declan/Clare, Eli/Clare vs. K.C./Clare vs. Declan/Clare vs. [[LesYay Jenna/Clare]]...

** Most controversial is [[BroodingBoyGentleGirl Jughead]]/[[OppositesAttract Betty]], which seems to be the generally FanPreferredCouple with both the fandom and the creators/actors. However, it's also the subject of debate because it is “in the way” of other ships, that it is [[StrangledByTheRedString too pushy on the audience]] or because the [[ComicBook/ArchieComics2015 2015 reboot]] explicitly made Jughead asexual (whether or not he is aromantic is hotly debated in fandom, with Chip Zdarsky giving a ShrugOfGod) – leading to fans arguing about whether he is ace-spectrum in ''every'' continuity, if he ''should'' be, with many supporters of the ship arguing that he can remain ace ''and'' have romantic relationships, or that his relationships may lead him to discover he is ace [[note]]Many asexual-spectrum people do date and seek romantic or affectionate companionship, enjoying kissing and cuddling or other forms of romantic affection – they just generally don’t feel ''sexual'' attraction, which is different from ''romantic'' attraction - UsefulNotes/{{Asexuality}}[[/note]] With Jughead and Betty's ShipTease ramping up [[spoiler: and their becoming a [[OfficialCouple couple]] midway into the season]], things have gotten more heated, with some particularly venomous anti-fans calling those who enjoy the ship "scum", and taking to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings sending aggressive messages to the cast and crew]] to delete their accounts or "just die" on Twitter.[[note]]To make things more complicated, the comic that explicitly confirmed Jughead was ace came out ''after'' the CW had ordered the pilot in January 2016, and the show had been in production since 2013-2014, which makes it very probable that they already had all the major story beats written well before and would have had to go back into DevelopmentHell in order to rewrite much of Jughead's plot.[[/note]]

* ''Series/{{Bones}}'': Do not try to argue in favor of Brennan/Sully to a Booth/Brennan shipper. Ditto Booth/Cam, as she got a lot of hate during the brief period they dated onscreen. And Booth/Hannah as well.

** For a show that ended in the eighties, the Hawkeye/Trapper vs Hawkeye/BJ wars are still going. It doesn't help that the show itself had Trapper leave without a note and the trauma of that lasted until the finale, with BJ jealous any time Trapper is mentioned and Hawkeye feeling like he's worthless when it feels like BJ left without a note too.
** To a lesser extent, there's the question for Hawkeye/BJ shippers about what to do with BJ's canon wife Peg, with some saying she 'gets in the way' of Hawkeye/BJ and having her react rather homophobically to their relationship (which, to be fair, [[ValuesDissonance it WAS the fifties]]), and others thinking that she'd be compassionate enough to [[TriangRelations share BJ with Hawkeye]], if not [[OneTrueThreesome join in herself]].

* With their omnipresent [[LoveTriangle love triangles]] and [[SuperCouple super couples]], [[SoapOpera soaps]] are the source of some of the most heated shipping wars in existence, and the extremes that some shippers go to can get pretty damned creepy:
** ''Series/{{Passions}}'': Do NOT mention Sheridan and Luis to a Fancy and Luis fan and [[SeriousBusiness DEFINITELY DO NOT mention Fancy and Luis]] to a Sheridan and Luis fan.
** ''Series/AsTheWorldTurns'' has the Luke/Noah shippers vs. Luke/Reid shippers. Mention the Nuke's borderline DestructiveRomance or Reid's DrJerk persona and you'll be brutally attacked. [[DieForOurShip It doesn't end well for Reid.]]

** It was more of a case of "many ships against one ship" with the Danny/Lindsay ship ([[HoYay Danny/Flack]], Danny/Angell, Danny/Rikki, and Danny/anyone-but-Lindsay vs. Danny/Lindsay). Claims of no chemistry, lack of believability, excessive screentime, were among the arguments flung against Danny/Lindsay by the anti-D/L faction, compounded by their general dislike for Lindsay as a character.

** Rose vs. Martha vs. River bitchfights get ''epic'', complete with racism, classism, occasionally ageism and sometimes, hilariously, speciesism -- some fans are actually capable of arguing that other than the Doctor's true love, all other companions are goldfish to him. Or hamsters. And then some fans follow up on this argument and elevate Doctor/Master to somewhat distressing levels. At large, whenever finding any post at all that discusses the Doctor's love life, the only right response is "in before [[http://wiki.fandomwank.com/index.php/Doctor_Who Fandom Wank]]".
** Of course, there are all of the people who think that the Doctor is UsefulNotes/{{asexual}}, never mind that there was a one shot LoveInterest as early as in the episode "The Aztecs" in first season ever back in 1963 and the Third Doctor showed undisguised (if unrequited) interest in Jo Grant in the early 1970s. The [[BrokenBase base-obliterating]] decision to GenderSwap the Doctor in 2017 has empowered those who feel that all shipping is invalid because it, to them, has proven the Doctor's asexuality. Creating therefore ''another'' front in the shipping wars between this view and the view held by some that the Doctor is simply bisexual.
** There have also been a few arguments between fans of Nine/Rose and Ten/Rose (and yes, even Eleven/Rose). Daleks? Aim for the eyestalk. Sontarans? Back of the neck. Shippers? Run. Just run.
** Many fans ship Doctor/Companion no matter what, and god forbid anyone who dares to disrupt this. Mickey Smith, Joan Redfern (to a small degree), River Song, and Rory Williams are often victims of this, along with any companion who is not Rose.
** The Rose vs. Martha vitriol has some hilarious examples [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1111557.html here]], but they were [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/935985.html#cutid1 wanking even pre-Martha]], which can pretty much be summarized by [[http://i.imgur.com/I17zn.jpg this bingo scorecard]] a user named nostalgia drew up.

* ''Series/NineOneOne'': [[MrFanservice Buck and Eddie]]-related ships become an ugly warzone because both of them are the only two main characters who haven't had a conclusive love interest for five (four for Eddie) seasons. [[note]] [[TeamDad Bobby]] and [[TeamMom Athena]] get married in Season 2 finale, [[ComicRelief Chimney]] and [[ShrinkingViolet Maddie]] starts dating each other in the same episode and have a child in Season 3 finale, [[TheSmartGirl Hen]] is already married to [[BlackAndNerdy Karen]] for years from the first episode, and the show makes a good distiction on why the "rivals" of these established couples are not good relationships leaving no doubt that the three pairings are meant to be together so no ship wars for them.[[/note]] However, a lot of these combats mostly involve those who ship Buck and Eddie with each other ([[PortmanteauCoupleName Buddie]]). Non Buddie shippers usually accuse shippers of fetishizing two attractive men, [[ShippingGoggles exaggerating]] close bonds between two men as something romantic, and saying Buck and Eddie are better off as friendship which is something rare. Meanwhile, Buddie shippers usually retaliate by saying that [[HeterosexualLifePartners male friendhip]] is the most common trope in media that saying it's rare is a flimsy excuse for homophobia and both of them receive too much scenes that are usually given to slowburn couples for the two to be platonic. [[note]]For reference, Buck clawing through mud when Eddie gets buried in a well is a reminicense of [[Series/TheRookie Chenford]] and [[Series/{{Bones}} Booth x Brennan]], Eddie's shooting is a reminiscense of [[Series/{{Castle}} Caskett]] and Booth x Brennan ''again'' etc etc.[[/note]]

* ''Series/NineOneOne'': [[MrFanservice Buck and Eddie]]-related ships become an ugly warzone because both of them are the only two main characters who haven't had a conclusive love interest for five (four for Eddie) seasons. [[note]] [[TeamDad Bobby]] and [[TeamMom Athena]] get married in Season 2 finale, [[ComicRelief Chimney]] and [[TheChick Maddie]] starts dating each other in the same episode and have a child in Season 3 finale, [[TheSmartGirl Hen]] is already married to [[TheChick Karen]] for years from the first episode, and the show makes a good distiction on why the "rivals" of these established couples are not good relationships leaving no doubt that the three pairings are meant to be together so no ship wars for them.[[/note]] However, a lot of these combats mostly involve those who ship Buck and Eddie with each other ([[PortmanteauCoupleName Buddie]]). Non Buddie shippers usually accuse shippers of fetishizing two attractive men, [[ShippingGoggles exaggerating]] close bonds between two men as something romantic, and saying Buck and Eddie are better off as friendship which is something rare. Meanwhile, Buddie shippers usually retaliate by saying that [[HeterosexualLifePartners male friendhip]] is the most common trope in media that saying it's rare is a flimsy excuse for homophobia and both of them receive too much scenes that are usually given to slowburn couples for the two to be platonic. [[note]]For reference, Buck clawing through mud when Eddie gets buried in a well is a reminicense of [[Series/TheRookie Chenford]] and [[Series/{{Bones}} Booth x Brennan]], Eddie's shooting is a reminiscense of [[Series/{{Castle}} Caskett]] and Booth x Brennan ''again'' etc etc.[[/note]]

* This broke out in ''Series/{{CSINY}}'' fandom, though it was more of a case of "many ships against one ship" in the case of the Danny/Lindsay ship ([[HoYay Danny/Flack]], Danny/Angell, Danny/Rikki, and Danny/anyone-but-Lindsay vs. Danny/Lindsay). Claims of no chemistry, lack of believability, excessive screentime, were among the arguments flung against Danny/Lindsay by the anti-D/L faction, compounded by their general dislike for Lindsay as a character.
** Mac is also in the middle of this, with Mac/Jo vs. Mac/Stella vs. Mac/Christine vs. Mac remaining single, eternally mourning Claire. Mac/Peyton is the exception because Peyton is generally regarded as TheScrappy. There is a Mac/Lindsay faction, plus the inevitable slash ships, but the four previously mentioned groups are the primary combatants.

* Series/TheVampireDiariesUniverse:

** The various shipper groups in the ''Smallville'' fandom have also been known to fight in proxy wars on behalf of ships that serve as ShipMates to their own OneTruePairing. For instance, Clois shippers were often allies with the Chimmy shippers from Seasons 6 through 8 because it kept Chloe away from Clark, so it felt right to support Chimmy (the Chimmy shippers didn't always reciprocate the good will though. Some Chloe supporters shipped Chimmy merely because they felt that Clark--the future ''{{Superman}}''--didn't "deserve" the supposedly-saintly Chloe). Similarly, some Chlark shippers supported Lollie because it got Lois away from Clark.

* The ''Series/StrangerThings'' fandom has always seen some tension between Mileven (Mike x Eleven) and Byler (Mike x Will) shippers, but things hit a fever pitch following the premiere of Season 4, which not only focuses on both relationships being strained in light of Eleven and the Byers moving away, but also includes hints that Will might be gay and have feelings for Mike. Both sides fervently argue about which relationship is healthier, has more chemistry, and/or makes more narrative sense. That Mileven has been an OfficialCouple since the first season is only further fuel to the fire.

** There are often fights between shippers of Whouffle or Whouffaldi (Doctor/Clara) and Yowzah (Doctor/River), over the Doctor's 11th and 12th incarnations. This was cranked UpToEleven when River Song, despite having been BackForTheDead ''and'' PutOnABus ''and'' KilledOffForReal in Series 7, suddenly returned in the 2015 Christmas Special, "The Husbands of River Song", which resulted in a romantic interlude with her husband, the Twelfth Doctor. Which was all fine if not for the fact said episode aired three weeks after the conclusion of an epic and tragic romance - that had played out since River's apparent fadeout - between the Doctor (Eleventh and Twelfth) and Clara Oswald. Coupled with ageism from those who felt that it was more appropriate for 50-something Peter Capaldi to romance 50-something Alex Kingston on screen than late-20s Jenna Coleman, and a bit of speciesism given that River is said to be half Time-Lord and long-lived, whereas Clara was merely human, with a regular life span (well, until the Doctor made her immortal, at least). Not only did the two rival ships' fans go to full-scale war over who the Doctor loved more, this carried over for ''a full year'' and beyond when the 2016 Christmas special invoked River, not Clara. (Despite this being due to the fact the show established that the Doctor had undergone a voluntary MindRape and lost all memory of having been in love with Clara, and both the 2015 and 2016 specials containing subtle hints that Clara's influence carried over into the Doctor's interactions with and regarding River.) The announcement that the series was going to GenderSwap the Thirteenth Doctor appears to have little impact, given that both River and Clara (as Oswin) were established as having attractions to women in the very first episodes they appeared in. Twelve's swansong only fanned the flames when [[spoiler: River was omitted totally and the last person the Doctor saw before he underwent his GenderSwap was Clara, his memories fully restored of her at the end.]]

* ''Series/ICarly'' has "Creddie" [[JustFriends Carly/Freddie]] vs. "Seddie" [[SlapSlapKiss Sam/Freddie]], which at the time was Nickelodeon's biggest shipping war since [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Kataraang VS Zutara]]. A huge war began in Season 2 when the Sam/Freddie pairing shared their FirstKiss, after Freddie had openly pined for Carly prior to that point. Both sides declared that WordOfGod secretly shipped their OTP, that WordOfGod was [[PanderingToTheBase pandering]] to one side before making the other canon, what color each ship 'owns', timing to the second how long various kisses lasted, thinking too much into freeze-frames. The height of the conflict extended over a dozen websites and was notable for the ''entire'' fandom shifting from Website/LiveJournal over to Website/{{tumblr}} and restarting the war there. [[LesYay Carly/Sam also has a significant following]] that is hated on because they're both girls. It was such an integral part of the fandom that it was turned into an actual war, by the writers, in the episode ''iStart A Fan War'', featuring groups of supporters for the named ships fighting each other InUniverse.

* ''Series/ICarly'' has "Creddie" [[JustFriends Carly/Freddie]] vs. "Seddie" [[SlapSlapKiss Sam/Freddie]]. A huge war began in Season 2 when the Sam/Freddie pairing shared their FirstKiss, after Freddie had openly pined for Carly prior to that point. Both sides declared that WordOfGod secretly shipped their OTP, that WordOfGod was [[PanderingToTheBase pandering]] to one side before making the other canon, what color each ship 'owns', timing to the second how long various kisses lasted, thinking too much into freeze-frames. The height of the conflict extended over a dozen websites and was notable for the ''entire'' fandom shifting from Website/LiveJournal over to Website/{{tumblr}} and restarting the war there. [[LesYay Carly/Sam also has a significant following]] that is hated on because they're both girls. It was such an integral part of the fandom that it was turned into an actual war, by the writers, in the episode ''iStart A Fan War'', featuring groups of supporters for the named ships fighting each other InUniverse.

* ''{{Series/Firefly}}'' shippers of [[MentorShip River/Mal]] and [[FoeYay River/Jayne]] are locked solidly at each others' throats, if only because both of them have about the exact same amount of canon support for their respective ships, and it's probably a good idea to keep both sides isolated from the [[BrotherSisterIncest River/Simon]] shippers.

** ''Series/KamenRiderOOO'': Eiji/Hina vs [[FoeYay Ankh/Hina]] vs [[VitriolicBestBuds Ankh/Eiji]][[note]]Adding a potentially uncomfortable aspect to this, Ankh's human form comes from [[BrotherSisterIncest Hina's brother Shingo]][[/note]]. There's also some conflict between those who think [[CreepyChild Mezool]]/[[PsychopathicManchild Gamel]] would be adorable, and those who find it creepy since Mezool is a pre-teen girl in her human form.

** The fandom was divided in [[HoYay slash]] and het camps -- those who thought [[HeterosexualLifePartners Merlin and Arthur]] were [[BecauseDestinySaysSo fated to be]], and those who didn't. The het camp was mainly comprised (in the beginning) by [[SlapSlapKiss Arthur/Morgana]], [[FoeYay Merlin/Morgana]], and a smaller faction of [[KnightInShiningArmor Lancelot/Gwen]] shippers, and all these factions were relatively civil to each other. However, [[ThePowersThatBe the writers]] did not help matters any by giving the characters' relationships a drastic turn-around in series two and declaring most of these ships DoomedByCanon via the inclusion of the (mostly non-existent in series 1) Arthur/Gwen ship, complete with TrueLovesKiss and everything. This resulted in most of the other shipping camps putting down not only this ship but ''[[TheyChangedItNowItSucks the show as a whole]]'' for reasons varying from "bad writing," to "feels forced," to TPTB [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks not being bold enough to deviate from the original Arthurian myth]]. Arthur/Gwen shippers, not to be deterred, [[ArmedWithCanon armed themselves with canon]] to defend their ship, making the ship debates hark back to times OlderThanPrint.

* ''Series/{{Victorious}}'': Early on in the fandom, Beck/Tori shippers and Beck/Jade shippers were known to get to arguments over which ship was better. This did settle down after most of the ShipTease between Beck and Tori was mostly dropped from the show, and Beck/Jade apparently won. However when [[FoeYay Jade/Tori]] exploded in popularity during season 2, and became just as, if not more, popular than Bade, Bade shippers started to feud with them. Jade/Tori shippers often painting Beck as a horrible boyfriend, while pointing out that Tori is usually the one to help Jade when she's upset. Meanwhile Beck/Jade shippers like to portray Tori as a BitchInSheepsClothing, who is not talented enough for Jade, and using arguments of how Nickelodeon would never allow it to become canon. Though mellowing out a bit since the show ended, it was somewhat reignited after the show was put on Netflix.

* ''Series/{{Bones}}'': Do not try to argue in favor of Brennan/Sully to a Booth/Brennan shipper.

** Strangely enough, if you ship Wash/Zoe you're safe from all sides. Probably because they were the only canon ship prior to the Simon/Kaylee RelationshipUpgrade in the movie,and Joss gave them very lovely scenes together which left a lot of viewers pleased with that ship.

** Good Lord, where to begin? Thanks to the LoveDodecahedron nature of the show, any given character will have a fair number of onscreen relationships (both actual romances and [[HoYay subtext]]). ALL of which have their diehard supporters who will raise hell if their favorite pairing is broken up (or never started at all in the case of subtext). A particularly nasty ship war that comes to mind was in the second season between [[SchoolgirlLesbians Brittany/Santana]] and [[GiveGeeksAChance Brittany/Artie]], complete with accusations of ButNotTooGay for making Brittany date a boy, ButNotTooBi for making her stay with Santana in the end, and UnfortunateImplications for how Santana convinced Brittany to cheat on Artie with her, and whether or not Artie was justified in lashing out at Brittany which caused her to break up with him. This is but ''one'' example of the bitchfights between shippers. The forum battles get epic.

** Of course, there are all of the people who think that the Doctor is {{asexual}}, never mind that there was a one shot LoveInterest as early as in the episode "The Aztecs" in first season ever back in 1963 and the Third Doctor showed undisguised (if unrequited) interest in Jo Grant in the early 1970s. The [[BrokenBase base-obliterating]] decision to GenderSwap the Doctor in 2017 has empowered those who feel that all shipping is invalid because it, to them, has proven the Doctor's asexuality. Creating therefore ''another'' front in the shipping wars between this view and the view held by some that the Doctor is simply bisexual.

** Most controversial is [[BroodingBoyGentleGirl Jughead]]/[[OppositesAttract Betty]], which seems to be the generally FanPreferredCouple with both the fandom and the creators/actors. However, it's also the subject of debate because it is “in the way” of other ships, that it is [[StrangledByTheRedString too pushy on the audience]] or because the [[ComicBook/ArchieComics2015 2015 reboot]] explicitly made Jughead asexual (whether or not he is aromantic is hotly debated in fandom, with Chip Zdarsky giving a ShrugOfGod) – leading to fans arguing about whether he is ace-spectrum in ''every'' continuity, if he ''should'' be, with many supporters of the ship arguing that he can remain ace ''and'' have romantic relationships, or that his relationships may lead him to discover he is ace [[note]]Many asexual-spectrum people do date and seek romantic or affectionate companionship, enjoying kissing and cuddling or other forms of romantic affection – they just generally don’t feel ''sexual'' attraction, which is different from ''romantic'' attraction - see the UsefulNotes for {{Asexuality}}[[/note]] With Jughead and Betty's ShipTease ramping up [[spoiler: and their becoming a [[OfficialCouple couple]] midway into the season]], things have gotten more heated, with some particularly venomous anti-fans calling those who enjoy the ship "scum", and taking to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings sending aggressive messages to the cast and crew]] to delete their accounts or "just die" on Twitter.[[note]]To make things more complicated, the comic that explicitly confirmed Jughead was ace came out ''after'' the CW had ordered the pilot in January 2016, and the show had been in production since 2013-2014, which makes it very probable that they already had all the major story beats written well before and would have had to go back into DevelopmentHell in order to rewrite much of Jughead's plot.[[/note]]

** Not to the extent of its parent series, but the fandom still gets in a few shipping wars. These mainly happen between [[OfficialCouple Hope/Landon]] shippers and [[FanPreferredCouple Hope/Josie]] shippers. The two sides will often come to blows when the question of whom Hope should end up with comes up. Hope/Landon shippers will often point out that the show is built around the pair's bond, while Josie and Hope's crushes on each other are very much in the past, and in the present, they have a more sister-like bond. Hope/Josie shippers will often point to their actresses' approval as the reason that their ship should be endgame, while portraying Landon as a toxic influence on Hope, who constantly gives up on her.
** * Hope/Josie and Hope/Lizzie shippers tend to get into huge debates over which of the twins deserve Hope more, often ignoring Hope already having a canon love interest, Landon. Hope/Josie shippers like to point out that there is no evidence that Lizzie is even into girls, while painting Lizzie as a {{Jerkass}} who is needlessly cruel to Hope and often minimizing or outright ignoring Lizzie's legit mental issues to paint her as worse than she is. Meanwhile, Hope/Lizzie shippers will try to paint Josie as a BitchInSheepsClothing, taking every wrong thing she does as painting her as abusive to both Hope and Lizzie, ignoring the times she has put both of them above her wellbeing and happiness. Hope/Lizzie shippers will also often feud with Hope/Landon shippers, portraying him as a toxic influence for Lizzie to save Hope from.

** ''Series/{{Legacies}}'': Not to the extent of its parent series, but the fandom still gets in a few shipping wars. These mainly happen between [[OfficialCouple Hope/Landon]] shippers and [[FanPreferredCouple Hope/Josie]] shippers. The two sides will often come to blows when the question of whom Hope should end up with comes up. Hope/Landon shippers will often point out that the show is built around the pair's bond, while Josie and Hope's crushes on each other are very much in the past, and in the present, they have a more sister-like bond. Hope/Josie shippers will often point to their actresses' approval as the reason that their ship should be endgame, while portraying Landon as a toxic influence on Hope, who constantly gives up on her.