History ShipToShipCombat / AnimeAndManga

30th Mar '16 11:08:41 PM IniuriaTalis
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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' had a perfect storm of many, many popular pairings involving [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters many characters]], and very ambiguous romantic development over a long period of time. It got very bloody as relationships developed. Even after the series ended and canon was decided, you still see scuffles between Naruto/Sakura, Naruto/Hinata, Naruto/Sasuke, and Sasuke/Sakura, not to mention smaller pairings with more minor characters like Sai/Ino vs. Shikamaru/Ino vs. Shikamaru/Temari.

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' had a perfect storm of many, many popular pairings involving [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters many characters]], and very subdued and ambiguous romantic development over [[LongRunner a long period of time.time]]. It got very bloody as relationships developed. Even after the series ended and canon was decided, you can still see scuffles between Naruto/Sakura, Naruto/Hinata, Naruto/Sasuke, any combination of [[JustFriends Naruto/Sakura]], [[PatientChildhoodLoveInterest Naruto/Hinata]], [[HoYay Naruto/Sasuke]], and Sasuke/Sakura, not to mention [[LoveMartyr Sasuke/Sakura]]. Even smaller pairings with involving more minor characters can go to war, like Sai/Ino vs. Shikamaru/Ino vs. Shikamaru/Temari.the battles among [[OppositesAttract Sai/Ino]], [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Shikamaru/Ino]], and [[BelligerentSexualTension Shikamaru/Temari]].
28th Mar '16 9:10:06 AM ObsidianFire
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* The ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' franchise has the battles between the Nanoha/Fate and Nanoha/Yuuno factions, which is not helped by the creators [[GenreSavvy knowing about it and fueling both sides]] with loads of ShipTease to keep the flames burning. There even seems to be a division in the lesser ranks of the production themselves; for example the [[FourthWallMailSlot Megami Sound Stages]] seem to support Nanoha/Yuuno; while the actresses who play [[Creator/YukariTamura Nanoha]] and [[Creator/NanaMizuki Fate]] are convinced they're a couple. These flames, however, while apparently violent, tend to be pretty friendly overall (perhaps due to the theme of the show itself), and people who take it as SeriousBusiness are routinely mocked in the fandom.

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* The ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' franchise has the battles between the Nanoha/Fate and Nanoha/Yuuno factions, which is not helped by the creators [[GenreSavvy knowing about it and fueling both sides]] sides with loads of ShipTease to keep the flames burning. There even seems to be a division in the lesser ranks of the production themselves; for example the [[FourthWallMailSlot Megami Sound Stages]] seem to support Nanoha/Yuuno; while the actresses who play [[Creator/YukariTamura Nanoha]] and [[Creator/NanaMizuki Fate]] are convinced they're a couple. These flames, however, while apparently violent, tend to be pretty friendly overall (perhaps due to the theme of the show itself), and people who take it as SeriousBusiness are routinely mocked in the fandom.
23rd Mar '16 6:49:56 AM Willbyr
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* ''VampireKnight'', with Zero/Yuuki vs. Kaname/Yuuki in particular. Is Kaname a creepy [[spoiler: and incestuous]] BastardBoyfriend who wants to dominate Yuuki's life? Is Zero a wangsty moron who gets in between Kaname and Yuuki's True Love? Is Yuuki a "CanonSue", thus "undeserving" of both guys? This whole ship war between both ships is the reason some fans stopped reading the manga altogether.

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* ''VampireKnight'', ''Manga/VampireKnight'', with Zero/Yuuki vs. Kaname/Yuuki in particular. Is Kaname a creepy [[spoiler: and incestuous]] BastardBoyfriend who wants to dominate Yuuki's life? Is Zero a wangsty moron who gets in between Kaname and Yuuki's True Love? Is Yuuki a "CanonSue", thus "undeserving" of both guys? This whole ship war between both ships is the reason some fans stopped reading the manga altogether.
15th Feb '16 11:47:31 AM Scabbard
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** The whole Alucard/Integra vs. Alucard/(insert other character here) wars is taken to an even further extent when one takes [[WordOfGod ot3f Kouta Hirano]] into consideration. Those who support the former pairing point to evidence that there's some sort of hidden romantic attitudes/sexual tension between the two. Those who support the latter pairing point out that the relationship between Alucard and Integra is purely "Master & Servant". And then there are those who believe the relationship is purely ambiguous...yeah...

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** The whole Alucard/Integra vs. Alucard/(insert other character here) wars is taken to an even further extent when one takes [[WordOfGod ot3f Kouta Hirano]] into consideration. Those who support the former pairing point to evidence that there's some sort of hidden romantic attitudes/sexual tension between the two. Those who support the latter pairing point out that the relationship between Alucard and Integra is purely "Master & and Servant". And then there are those who believe the relationship is purely ambiguous...yeah...



** [[HugeGuyTinyGirl Ira/Mako]] became a popular ship after the Naturals Election. To put it lightly, the disagreements between Ryuko/Mako and Ira/Mako in particular are... not pretty. ''Especially'' after the series ended with [[spoiler: Ryuko & Mako going on a date, and Mako even kissing her... but then the epilogue shows Satsuki tagging along, and then it cuts to a nervous Gamagoori dressed in a suit holding flowers with Mako approaching.]] The amount of bile between the two factions exploded, primarily driven by HetIsEw.

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** [[HugeGuyTinyGirl Ira/Mako]] became a popular ship after the Naturals Election. To put it lightly, the disagreements between Ryuko/Mako and Ira/Mako in particular are... not pretty. ''Especially'' after the series ended with [[spoiler: Ryuko & and Mako going on a date, and Mako even kissing her... but then the epilogue shows Satsuki tagging along, and then it cuts to a nervous Gamagoori dressed in a suit holding flowers with Mako approaching.]] The amount of bile between the two factions exploded, primarily driven by HetIsEw.
29th Jan '16 10:24:45 AM Willbyr
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* It's still pretty quiet for now but shipping wars are pretty common in ''AmagamiSS.'' Even though every single girl gets 4 episodes an arc. It's gotten to the point that the shippers are ''getting withdrawals'' due to the fact that they can't bash somebody due to the fact that they're not the love interest of that arc.

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* It's still pretty quiet for now but shipping wars are pretty common in ''AmagamiSS.''VideoGame/{{Amagami}}.'' Even though every single girl gets 4 episodes an arc. It's gotten to the point that the shippers are ''getting withdrawals'' due to the fact that they can't bash somebody due to the fact that they're not the love interest of that arc.
28th Jan '16 2:00:16 PM Willbyr
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* On the flip-side, in some series, [[HetIsEw you must beware any pairing that blasphemes against the]] HoYay. There's a reason that ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'', ''KingdomHearts'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' are shipping minefields.

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* On the flip-side, in some series, [[HetIsEw you must beware any pairing that blasphemes against the]] HoYay. There's a reason that ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'', ''KingdomHearts'', ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' are shipping minefields.
26th Jan '16 10:30:44 AM Willbyr
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* Amongst ''ShugoChara'' fans, there is definitely animosity between the Tadase/Amu and Ikuto/Amu factions, with the expected DieForOurShip mentalities.

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* Amongst ''ShugoChara'' ''Manga/ShugoChara'' fans, there is definitely animosity between the Tadase/Amu and Ikuto/Amu factions, with the expected DieForOurShip mentalities.



* ''{{Shuffle}}'', dear God, ''Shuffle''. The fiercest Ship-To-Ship Combat happens between the {{Instant|Fanclub}} [[SeriousBusiness Fanclubs]] ''Ai Ai Asa-senpai'' and ''Kitto Kitto Kaede-chan''.

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* ''{{Shuffle}}'', ''VisualNovel/{{Shuffle}}'', dear God, ''Shuffle''.''SHUFFLE!''. The fiercest Ship-To-Ship Combat happens between the {{Instant|Fanclub}} [[SeriousBusiness Fanclubs]] ''Ai Ai Asa-senpai'' and ''Kitto Kitto Kaede-chan''.
21st Jan '16 9:04:25 AM Pichu-kun
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*** TheMovie causes even more ship wars. Alfons/Ed became popular which only caused issues with people who shipped Edward with Winry, Roy, or [[BrotherSisterIncest Al]]. Noah isn't even on the radar for most shippers due to [[TheScrappy the disdain toward her]] but people will occasionally debute that [[spoiler:she would be a good pair for either Al or Ed due to them being stuck on their side of the gate]]. People who ship either of the brothers with Rose think of Noah as a poor substitute.
** Speaking of ''Shamballa'' there's pairing Edward with [[spoiler:alters]] vs pairing them with Roy or Winry. Both characters should exist somewhere but there's a debate about it. [[spoiler:This largely ties in with people who write Ed as eventually going through the gate and reuniting with fans]].

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*** ** TheMovie causes even more ship wars. Alfons/Ed became popular which only caused issues with people who shipped Edward with Winry, Roy, or [[BrotherSisterIncest Al]]. Noah isn't even on the radar for most shippers due to [[TheScrappy the disdain toward her]] but people will occasionally debute that [[spoiler:she debate thatshe would be a good pair for either Al or Ed due [[spoiler:due to them being stuck on their side of the gate]]. People who ship either of the brothers with Rose tend to think of Noah as a [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute poor substitute.
substitute.]]
** Speaking of ''Shamballa'' ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemistTheConquerorOfShamballa'' there's pairing Edward with [[spoiler:alters]] [[spoiler:Roy's or Winry's alters]] vs pairing them with Roy or Winry. Both of the former characters should exist somewhere but there's they were [[OCStandIn never shown]] besides [[spoiler:Roy's alter]] appearing in a piece of official art. The debate about it. [[spoiler:This largely ties in with people who write Ed Edward as eventually going [[spoiler:going through the gate and [[FixFic reuniting with fans]].his friends]]]] while others acknowledge that's impossible and have him fall for [[ReplacementGoldfish the next best thing]] to his loved one.


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* Even ''Manga/WanderingSon'''s normally calm fandom gets in on ship wars sometimes. The main issue is [[PlatonicLifePartners Nitori/Takatsuki]] vs [[OfficialCouple Nitori/Anna]] vs [[FanPreferredCouple Saori/Takatsuki]]. Nitori/Saori fans are never in on the wars because few fans ship it, despite Saori's unrequited love being a major part of her character. Nitori and Takatsuki has had a lot of fans since early on, made worse by the anime [[PromotedToLoveInterest upping]] the ShipTease, however their relationship is frequently debunked in-series and the two are portrayed as platonic. Many shippers consider Nitori's canon girlfriend Anna to have a [[SugarAndIcePersonality mean personality]] or just don't like her with Nitori. Saori/Takatsuki is a completely different bag of worms for having a huge amount of FoeYay, then later just ShipTease, but no one being able to tell [[RelationshipWritingFumble how intentional]] it was. The anime caused [[FoeYayShipping Nitori/Doi]] to become a thing however more than a few fans were YaoiFangirls who don't [[MisaimedFandom even see Nitori as female]]. Other fans usually ignore the ship in debates because Doi is a [[TheBully bully]] to Nitori and Nitori has shown no interest in boys (besides Takatsuki for a while).
19th Jan '16 1:16:47 PM Willbyr
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* ''DGrayMan'': The shipping wars of pairing [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Allen]] with their favorite {{OTP}}. The sad thing is that he hasn't even really shown ''that'' much interest in ''any'' of them, being a [[WordOfGod confirmed]] CelibateHero who has expressed adamant disinterest in anything romantic. There's the obvious wars between Lenalee/Allen and Road/Allen fans, and ''then'' there's the HoYay / FoeYay shippers (Kanda/Allen, Lavi/Allen, [[FoeYay Tyki/Allen]])...

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* ''DGrayMan'': ''Manga/DGrayMan'': The shipping wars of pairing [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Allen]] with their favorite {{OTP}}. The sad thing is that he hasn't even really shown ''that'' much interest in ''any'' of them, being a [[WordOfGod confirmed]] CelibateHero who has expressed adamant disinterest in anything romantic. There's the obvious wars between Lenalee/Allen and Road/Allen fans, and ''then'' there's the HoYay / FoeYay shippers (Kanda/Allen, Lavi/Allen, [[FoeYay Tyki/Allen]])...
19th Jan '16 10:30:30 AM Willbyr
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* ''TigerAndBunny'' is mostly a peaceful fandom, but it's starting to show early symptoms of this since Kotetsu / [[OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent Karina]] and Kotetsu/[[IceKing Barnaby]] fans have been spotted fighting it out. Is Karina a [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass "girly thus weak"]] little bitch who gets in between the oh so sacred HoYay between Kotetsu and Barnaby? Is Barnaby a selfish, immature JerkAss who treats Kotetsu like shit just to satisfy his ego - sooooo unlike the sweet, pretty Karina would? Be careful about expressing such thoughts...

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* ''TigerAndBunny'' ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' is mostly a peaceful fandom, but it's starting to show early symptoms of this since Kotetsu / [[OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent Karina]] and Kotetsu/[[IceKing Barnaby]] fans have been spotted fighting it out. Is Karina a [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass "girly thus weak"]] little bitch who gets in between the oh so sacred HoYay between Kotetsu and Barnaby? Is Barnaby a selfish, immature JerkAss who treats Kotetsu like shit just to satisfy his ego - sooooo unlike the sweet, pretty Karina would? Be careful about expressing such thoughts...



** The more remarkable examples are the Saint Seiya ship wars of [[{{het}} Het Yay]] fans (fueled by the massive creation of [[RelationshipSue Relationship Sues]], once SaintSeiya has too few women on cast) against HoYay fans and vice-versa. In several occasions the ship war went to extremes of public detracting of fanwork artists' personal lifes, public menace of aggressions and even real legal offenses.

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** The more remarkable examples are the Saint Seiya ''Saint Seiya'' ship wars of [[{{het}} Het Yay]] fans (fueled by the massive creation of [[RelationshipSue Relationship Sues]], {{Relationship Sue}}s, once SaintSeiya ''Saint Seiya'' has too few women on cast) against HoYay fans and vice-versa. In several occasions the ship war went to extremes of public detracting of fanwork artists' personal lifes, public menace of aggressions and even real legal offenses.
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