History ShipToShipCombat / AnimeAndManga

25th Aug '16 12:20:43 AM PaulA
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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' had a perfect storm of many, many popular pairings involving [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters many characters]], and very subdued and ambiguous romantic development over [[LongRunner a long period of time]]. It got very bloody as relationships developed. Even after the series ended and canon was decided, you can still see scuffles between any combination of [[JustFriends Naruto/Sakura]], [[PatientChildhoodLoveInterest Naruto/Hinata]], [[HoYay Naruto/Sasuke]], and [[LoveMartyr Sasuke/Sakura]]. Even smaller pairings involving more minor characters can go to war, like the battles among [[OppositesAttract Sai/Ino]], [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Shikamaru/Ino]], and [[BelligerentSexualTension Shikamaru/Temari]].

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' had a perfect storm of many, many popular pairings involving [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters many characters]], and very subdued and ambiguous romantic development over [[LongRunner a long period of time]].time. It got very bloody as relationships developed. Even after the series ended and canon was decided, you can still see scuffles between any combination of [[JustFriends Naruto/Sakura]], [[PatientChildhoodLoveInterest Naruto/Hinata]], [[HoYay Naruto/Sasuke]], and [[LoveMartyr Sasuke/Sakura]]. Even smaller pairings involving more minor characters can go to war, like the battles among [[OppositesAttract Sai/Ino]], [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Shikamaru/Ino]], and [[BelligerentSexualTension Shikamaru/Temari]].
23rd Aug '16 9:40:41 PM Discar
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* What is generally considered the bloodiest ship war ever took place in the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' fandom. The main debate seems to be what combination of the constantly-fluctuating PowerTrio should hook up; there's at least thirty possible sides, each with a knife to the throat of the others. Also, there's the Rocketshipping (Jessie/James) debate, although there's no one else to pair them up with - Anti-Rocketshippers simply hold the opinion they're not interested in each other (and usually that James is gay).

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
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What is generally considered the bloodiest ship war ever took place in the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' this fandom. The main debate seems to be what combination of the constantly-fluctuating PowerTrio should hook up; there's at least thirty possible sides, each with a knife to the throat of the others. Also, there's the Rocketshipping (Jessie/James) debate, although there's no one else to pair them up with - Anti-Rocketshippers simply hold the opinion they're not interested in each other (and usually that James is gay).



*** The "official" [[http://shipping.bulbagarden.net/ list of named ships]] for the fandom ''literally'' has OverNineThousand entries.
*** Perhaps the fanatical nature of Ship-to-Ship Combat is best exemplified by the fact that the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shipping:History_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_shipping Ship War]] can be described as HAVING TREATIES and ''civil wars''. There are times to just give up, fanboys AND fangirls.

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*** ** The "official" [[http://shipping.bulbagarden.net/ list of named ships]] for the fandom ''literally'' has OverNineThousand entries.
*** ** Perhaps the fanatical nature of Ship-to-Ship Combat is best exemplified by the fact that the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shipping:History_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_shipping net/wiki/Shipping:History_of_Pokemon_shipping Ship War]] can be described as HAVING TREATIES and ''civil wars''. There are times to just give up, fanboys AND fangirls.
20th Aug '16 5:13:14 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* ''Manga/BlackButler'' pretty much is a war within itself nowadays, especially with the new season. (What else is expected though, when every male in the show is a total {{Bishonen}}?) Despite the only confirmed canon pairing being the (platonic) love between Sebastian/Any Cat He Can Find and the closest thing Ciel has to a canon [[ArrangedMarriage "love]] [[ShipTease interest"]] is [[KissingCousins Lizzie]] many [[YaoiFangirl fangirls]] persist over pairings like Ciel x Sebastian, which has some [[ShipTease Yaoi Fanservice]] in the manga and was TurnedUpToEleven in the anime (especially in season 2). Though Sebastian's obsession with ([[IAmAHumanitarian eatting]]) Ciel's Soul ''may'' make it somewhat canon in its own right. You'll also stumble along Sebastian paired with Meirin, Finnian, Bard, Alois, Lau, Claude, ''Tanaka''... Try giving a solid standing for your pairing in a ship board, or ''especially'' on Website/YouTube, and you'll usually have at least 5 people calling you a bitch. This fandom tends to be nicer, but still.

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** The manga is over at chapter 686, and the {{official couple}}s are... [[spoiler: Ichigo/Orihime (plus their son Kazui)]] and [[spoiler: Rukia/Renji (plus their daughter Ichika)]]. The fans of the [[ShipSinking now completely sunk]] [[spoiler: Ichigo/Rukia]] ship have thrown '''immense''' tantrums and fits all over the Internet.
* ''Manga/BlackButler'' pretty much is a war within itself nowadays, especially with the new season. (What else is expected though, when every male in the show is a total {{Bishonen}}?) Despite the only confirmed canon pairing being the (platonic) love between Sebastian/Any Cat He Can Find and the closest thing Ciel has to a canon [[ArrangedMarriage "love]] [[ShipTease interest"]] is [[KissingCousins Lizzie]] many [[YaoiFangirl fangirls]] persist over pairings like Ciel x Sebastian, which has some [[ShipTease Yaoi Fanservice]] in the manga and was TurnedUpToEleven in the anime (especially in season 2). Though Sebastian's obsession with ([[IAmAHumanitarian eatting]]) eating]]) Ciel's Soul ''may'' make it somewhat canon in its own right. You'll also stumble along Sebastian paired with Meirin, Finnian, Bard, Alois, Lau, Claude, ''Tanaka''... Try giving a solid standing for your pairing in a ship board, or ''especially'' on Website/YouTube, and you'll usually have at least 5 people calling you a bitch. This fandom tends to be nicer, but still.
10th Aug '16 6:20:12 PM sorako
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* Ship [[Manga/YuGiOh Atem and Yugi?]] Anzu is a brainless harridan. Ship [[FoeYay Kaiba and Yugi?]] Jounouchi is a Token Homophobe for some [[FanWank stupid reason]]. Ship [[FoeYay Kaiba and Jounouchi?]] Mai is a heartless slut. (Yes, this is a gross oversimplification.) The Atem/Yugi and Yugi/Anzu fans in particular seem to have it in for each other. [[OT3 Unless they choose door number three...]]

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* ''Manga/YuGiOh'': Ship [[Manga/YuGiOh Atem and Yugi?]] Yugi? Anzu is a brainless harridan. Ship [[FoeYay Kaiba and Yugi?]] Jounouchi is a Token Homophobe for some [[FanWank stupid reason]]. Ship [[FoeYay Kaiba and Jounouchi?]] Mai is a heartless slut. (Yes, this is a gross oversimplification.) The Atem/Yugi and Yugi/Anzu fans in particular seem to have it in for each other. [[OT3 Unless they choose door number three...]]
10th Aug '16 6:16:57 PM sorako
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* ''Manga/MagiLabyrinthOfMagic'' has Sinja (Sinbad x Ja'far) shippers versus Sinju (Sinbad x Judar) shippers. Fanart of Sinbad often features either Ja'far or Judar as his romantic interest. While Sinbad's relationship with Judar is more FoeYay than HoYay as with Ja'far, both ships are more or less equal in power.

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* ''Manga/MagiLabyrinthOfMagic'' has ''Manga/MagiLabyrinthOfMagic'':
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Sinja (Sinbad x Ja'far) shippers versus Sinju (Sinbad x Judar) shippers. Fanart of Sinbad often features either Ja'far or Judar as his romantic interest. While Sinbad's relationship with Judar is more FoeYay than HoYay as with Ja'far, both ships are more or less equal in power.



* As a series with a boy with 31 girls as his harem, ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' is bound to have this. Even though Asuna/Negi and Nodoka/Negi are the two favorites, Chisame/Negi got more popular later on, having at least one in-universe endorser and rabid fans who tout it as if it was already canon. However, most of the fights do get ameliorated, mainly because there is one shipping that everyone can agree on: [[SchoolgirlLesbians Setsuna-Konoka]]. God help those who go against this sacred pairing.

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* As a series with a boy with 31 girls as his harem, ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' is bound to have this. Even though Asuna/Negi and Nodoka/Negi are the two favorites, Chisame/Negi got more popular later on, having at least one in-universe endorser and rabid fans who tout it as if it was already canon. However, most of the fights do get ameliorated, mainly because there is one shipping that everyone can agree on: [[SchoolgirlLesbians Setsuna-Konoka]].Setsuna/Konoka]]. God help those who go against this sacred pairing.



* ''[[Manga/FutureDiary Mirai Nikki]]'' had some minor ship wars between Yuki/Yuno fans and Akise/Yuki fans.
* In regards to ''Manga/LoveHina'' fandom... Put a Motoko/Keitaro and a Naru/Keitaro shipper in the same room. There '''will''' be blood.
** And don't add a Shinobu/Keitaro shipper. You risk getting an EarthShatteringKaboom right in your face.
** Even worse: bring in a Mutsumi/Keitaro shipper. '''Say your prayers, everyone.'''

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* ''[[Manga/FutureDiary Mirai Nikki]]'' ''Manga/FutureDiary'' had some minor ship wars between Yuki/Yuno fans and Akise/Yuki fans.
* In regards to ''Manga/LoveHina'' fandom... Put a Motoko/Keitaro and a Naru/Keitaro shipper in the same room. There '''will''' be blood.
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blood. And don't add a Shinobu/Keitaro shipper. You risk getting an EarthShatteringKaboom right in your face.
** Even worse:
face. Then bring in a Mutsumi/Keitaro shipper. '''Say your prayers, everyone.'''



* Let's not even get STARTED on the shipping wars in "LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex". Given that there are over TEN THOUSAND girls in his harem if we count the Sisters as individuals (and there's more than enough evidence to prove that), it gets pretty bloody over in that fandom.

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* Let's not even get STARTED on the shipping wars in "LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex".''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex''. Given that there are over TEN THOUSAND girls in his harem if we count the Sisters as individuals (and there's more than enough evidence to prove that), it gets pretty bloody over in that fandom.
14th Jul '16 2:08:17 AM Amon_Ra
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** Who [[ChasteHero Luffy]] should end up with: Nami, the spunky navigator of his crew, with whom he shares a very deep bond which can be seen as romantic or not with ease -- and not to mention Nami seems to be quite focused on other matters rather than whether Luffy will bone her or not. Or Boa Hancock, empress of Amazon Lily Island who fell madly in love with him, although her displays of affection are PlayedForLaughs and while Luffy is grateful for her help during the Marineford arc, he explicitly stated that "he wasn't going to marry her".

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** Who [[ChasteHero Luffy]] should end up with: Nami, the spunky brave navigator of his crew, with whom he shares a very deep bond which can be seen as romantic or not with ease -- and not to mention Nami seems to be quite focused on other matters rather than whether Luffy will bone her or not. Or Boa Hancock, empress of Amazon Lily Island who fell madly in love with him, although her displays of affection are PlayedForLaughs and while Luffy is grateful for her help during the Marineford arc, he explicitly stated that "he wasn't going to marry her".
14th Jul '16 2:01:13 AM Amon_Ra
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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' is abundant with this, though of a more subtle and insidious brand than any of those above. There is great mutual enmity between the [[IncestIsRelative Rei/Shinji]] shippers, and the [[SlapSlapKiss Asuka/Shinji]] shippers, which isn't helped by the fact that Asuka and Rei pretty much hate each other in canon. There are also the more controversial Misato/Shinji shippers, the [[HoYay Kaworu/Shinji]] shippers, and the occasional fans of Mana Kirishima. Thanks to the [[MindScrew ambiguity]] of the series, each shipper has their own [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation personal character interpretation]] which each defends with fanatical fervor even against others within the same shipping ''subset.''

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' is abundant with this, though of a more subtle and insidious brand than any of those above. There is great mutual enmity hostility between the [[IncestIsRelative Rei/Shinji]] shippers, and the [[SlapSlapKiss Asuka/Shinji]] shippers, which isn't helped by the fact that Asuka and Rei pretty much hate each other in canon. There are also the more controversial Misato/Shinji shippers, the [[HoYay Kaworu/Shinji]] shippers, and the occasional fans of Mana Kirishima. Thanks to the [[MindScrew ambiguity]] of the series, each shipper has their own [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation personal character interpretation]] which each defends with fanatical fervor even against others within the same shipping ''subset.''
14th Jul '16 2:00:11 AM Amon_Ra
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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' is rife with this, though of a more subtle and insidious brand than any of those above. There is great mutual enmity between the [[IncestIsRelative Rei/Shinji]] shippers, and the [[SlapSlapKiss Asuka/Shinji]] shippers, which isn't helped by the fact that Asuka and Rei pretty much hate each other in canon. There are also the more controversial Misato/Shinji shippers, the [[HoYay Kaworu/Shinji]] shippers, and the occasional fans of Mana Kirishima. Thanks to the [[MindScrew ambiguity]] of the series, each shipper has their own [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation personal character interpretation]] which each defends with fanatical fervor even against others within the same shipping ''subset.''

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' is rife abundant with this, though of a more subtle and insidious brand than any of those above. There is great mutual enmity between the [[IncestIsRelative Rei/Shinji]] shippers, and the [[SlapSlapKiss Asuka/Shinji]] shippers, which isn't helped by the fact that Asuka and Rei pretty much hate each other in canon. There are also the more controversial Misato/Shinji shippers, the [[HoYay Kaworu/Shinji]] shippers, and the occasional fans of Mana Kirishima. Thanks to the [[MindScrew ambiguity]] of the series, each shipper has their own [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation personal character interpretation]] which each defends with fanatical fervor even against others within the same shipping ''subset.''
14th Jul '16 1:50:27 AM Amon_Ra
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** A famous incident was a case of [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1009473.html Ichigo/Rukia vs Wikipedia editors]], wherein the wank was sparked over [[SeriousBusiness alphabetical order]] of the characters' names. [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1238187.html?thread=211092139#t211092139 Something like this happened in Japan as well]].

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** A famous incident was a case of [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1009473.html Ichigo/Rukia vs Wikipedia editors]], wherein where in the wank was sparked over [[SeriousBusiness alphabetical order]] of the characters' names. [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1238187.html?thread=211092139#t211092139 Something like this happened in Japan as well]].
8th Jul '16 8:00:45 PM IniuriaTalis
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* ''Manga/ShokugekiNoSoma'' has the question of Soma/Erina vs. Soma/Megumi. Fans of the former generally [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses bash Megumi for being "weak" and "dependent on Soma"]], whereas fans of the latter often hate Erina for being a {{Tsundere}} DefrostingIceQueen who was a bit too icy at first, even though she's gotten much better since. Smaller ships like Soma/Alica or Soma/Ikumi generally stay out of it.

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* ''Manga/ShokugekiNoSoma'' has the question of Soma/Erina vs. Soma/Megumi. Fans of the former generally [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses bash Megumi for being "weak" and "dependent on Soma"]], whereas fans of the latter often hate Erina for being a {{Tsundere}} DefrostingIceQueen who was a bit too icy at first, even though she's gotten much better since. Smaller ships like Soma/Alica Soma/Alice or Soma/Ikumi generally stay out of it.
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