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** The cop that Delilah dates, Fincher, has his closest book counterpart in a ScaryBlackMan cop who - at least in Joe's estimation - is a creepy fame whore behind the mask. He's actually a kind, heroic cop in the series who genuinely cares for Delilah and tries to reveal the truth about Henderson's perversity.
** ''Forty''. In the book, [[spoiler:he finds out the truth about Joe and is happy to keep it quiet]] providing that Joe writes screenplays for him for the rest of their lives, on top of being a sleazy manipulator. In the series, he is genuinely devoted to his sister Love's wellbeing [[spoiler:and when he finds out the truth about Joe, he takes a gun to Joe in an attempt to [[{{Irony}} protect Love from him]].]]

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** The cop that Delilah dates, Fincher, has his closest book counterpart in a ScaryBlackMan cop who - at least in Joe's estimation - is a creepy fame whore behind the mask. He's actually a kind, heroic cop in the series who genuinely cares for Delilah and tries to reveal the truth about Henderson's perversity.
** ''Forty''. In the book, [[spoiler:he finds out the truth about Joe and is happy to keep it quiet]] providing that Joe writes screenplays for him for the rest of their lives, on top of being a sleazy manipulator. manipulator, animal abuser, and cruel pervert who heartlessly demeans everyone around him. In the series, he he's not only more of a friendly (if not obnoxious and misguided) ditz who is genuinely devoted to his sister Love's wellbeing [[spoiler:and when he finds out the truth about Joe, he takes a gun to Joe in an attempt to [[{{Irony}} protect Love from him]].]]
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* ChickMagnet: Even during his brief break-ups with Beck and Love, Joe has immediate rebound hookups with Karen Minty and Delilah. He's also subjected to [[PrecociousCrush light flirting]] from Ellie and multiple women coming onto him during his online dating attempts.

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* ChickMagnet: Even during his brief break-ups with Beck and Love, Joe has immediate rebound hookups with Karen Minty and Delilah. He's also subjected to [[PrecociousCrush light flirting]] from Ellie and multiple women coming onto him during his online dating attempts. By the fourth season, it's almost a running gag that Joe can get out of most situations and suspicion simply because of how many women want to sleep with him.

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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: In the books, Forty apparently looks a lot like Philip Seymour Hoffman, an actor not particularly known for his looks. In the show, he's a conventionally handsome young man.



** Joe, while still nowhere close to a hero, is toned down severely from the novels, especially after the first season. Joe is a remorseless killer in the novels with no redeemable traits. The series works harder to turn him into a SympatheticMurderer by reworking most of his killings, such as making his victims even worse ([[spoiler:Henderson]]), changing them into accidents/self defence ([[spoiler:Henderson again]]), changing it so that other people kill them ([[spoiler:Delilah, Candace]]), or omitting them entirely (Fincher). His most heinous action -- [[spoiler:Beck's murder]] -- happens offscreen, since it probably would have been impossible to sympathise with him if it was shown. The series also expands on his tragic backstory from a broken home more, makes his narration less vulgar and vitriolic, and adds one child character per season who acts as his MoralityPet.

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** Joe, while still nowhere close to a hero, is toned down severely from the novels, especially after the first season. Joe is a remorseless killer in the novels with no redeemable traits. The series works harder to turn him into a SympatheticMurderer by reworking most of his killings, such as making his victims even worse ([[spoiler:Henderson]]), changing them into accidents/self defence ([[spoiler:Henderson again]]), changing it so that other people kill them ([[spoiler:Delilah, Candace]]), or omitting them entirely (Fincher). His most heinous action -- [[spoiler:Beck's murder]] -- happens offscreen, since it probably would have been impossible to sympathise with him if it was shown. The series also expands on his tragic backstory from a broken home more, makes his narration less vulgar and vitriolic, and adds one child character per season who acts as his MoralityPet.MoralityPet whereas he loathed children in the books.
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** Victoria Pedretti once again plays a [[spoiler:mentally ill]] young widow who supports a twin brother who is a drug addict despite multiple relapses, much like her character in ''Series/TheHauntingOfHillHouse''.

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** Victoria Pedretti once again plays a [[spoiler:mentally ill]] young LA-based widow who supports a twin brother who is a drug addict despite multiple relapses, much like her character in ''Series/TheHauntingOfHillHouse''.''Series/TheHauntingOfHillHouse2018''.
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* DismemberingTheBody: [[VillainProtagonist Joe Goldberg]] frequently divides up the bodies that he kills into pieces and then disposes them separately as to better cover up his tracks. The ways he cuts up the body actually varies quite a bit, and he has even used a meat grinder before.
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* CrazyInTheHeadCrazyInTheBed: In "The Captain" Beck spends most of the episode dealing with troubles with her father. At the end of the episode, she invokes this trope when she arrives to Joe's apartment for some SexForSolace, joking to him that "They say girls with daddy issues are really good in bed".
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* SnobbyHobbies: In season 4, Joe is living in England and manages to fall into a much richer, more eccentric, and snobbier crowd than he's used to. He's invited to several of their events, which include Kate and Simon's art exhibit, a [[SnootySports game of croquet]] (which involves, at one point, a servant being humiliated and used as a hoop), and their tech-free getaway at a massive old mansion. He's also invited on a "hunt" (which turns out to be a [[HuntingAccident murder attempt]]) with Roald, who had originally wanted to play tennis with Kate.
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** Season Three despite ending positively for the surviving residents of Madre Linda, also ends with [[spoiler:Joe murdering Love, passing it off as a suicide and framing her for all the seasons murders, Joe fakes his death (even cutting his toes off to sell the ruse) and burns his and Love’s house down, Henry is left technically orphaned, Dottie has lost both of her children and is still an alcoholic, and Joe is once again free to start over with a clean slate and carry on his obsessive and murderous activities.]]


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** In Season 3, Joe kills [[spoiler: Love via poisoning]] and sets it up to look self inflicted, complete with a suicide note.
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** In season 4, episode 9, Joe has a nightmare where he sees [[spoiler:Gemma, Beck and Love]]
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** 4.08 switches to Marianne’s POV for the first part of the episode, showing her perspective of the prior episodes reveal.
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* PerverseSexualLust: Joe is only really into people he wants to kill because they remind him of his mother.
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* PerverseSexualLust: Joe is only really into people he wants to kill because they remind him of his mother.
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** After he learns [[spoiler:Nadia has been investigating him, despite having the resources to pay her off, he murders her boyfriend and frames her.]]

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* ADateWithRosiePalms:
** After Beck has a [[SpeedSex quick]] and [[LousyLoversAreLosers unsatisfying tryst]] with Benji, [[ThePeepingTom Joe watches]] Beck masturbates from outside her apartment. It inspires him to do the same ''right there on the sidewalk'' hidden in the bushes, but he's interrupted when [[CaughtWithYourPantsDown an old lady walks over.]]
** He does it again in a later episode when he discovers a picture of Beck in a swimsuit [[spoiler: among the ''hundreds'' of photos of Beck that Peach has on her laptop.]] Joe masturbates to the picture and, when he's 'finished', [[spoiler: resumes snooping through Peach's laptop.]]
** Beck attempts this while waiting for The Captain in her motel room. She’s interrupted however, when he turns up early.
** Joe attempted this during his first day at work with an illusion of Love. However, in trying to break himself out of his habit, he stops midway and doesn't do it again during the season.
*** Joe does this with the pictures of Marianne he found in Ryan's house.



** Beck [[RelationshipRevolvingDoor on-again-off-again]] cheating boyfriend Benji is terrible in bed, something that Joe smugly notices when he's [[StalkerWithACrush stalking Beck]] and [[ThePeepingTom happens to see them having sex]]. Benji not only [[SpeedSex finishes quickly]], but he's uncaring about making ''her'' climax and leaves instead, leaving a frustrated Beck to relieve herself via ADateWithRosiePalms. In a later episode, she also says that he used to nod off when trying to go down on her.

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** Beck [[RelationshipRevolvingDoor on-again-off-again]] cheating boyfriend Benji is terrible in bed, something that Joe smugly notices when he's [[StalkerWithACrush stalking Beck]] and [[ThePeepingTom happens to see them having sex]]. Benji not only [[SpeedSex finishes quickly]], but he's uncaring about making ''her'' climax and leaves instead, leaving a frustrated Beck to relieve herself via ADateWithRosiePalms.masturbation. In a later episode, she also says that he used to nod off when trying to go down on her.



** Benji can't satisfy Beck due to this, and she has to resort to ADateWithRosiePalms.

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** Benji can't satisfy Beck due to this, and she has to resort to ADateWithRosiePalms.masturbation.
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* BloodyHallucinationsOfGuilt: During an acid trip in season 2, Joe keeps seeing blood all over his hands as a manifestation of his repressed guilt for having [[spoiler:killed Beck last season]].
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** A couple police officers question Joe outside his building early in the first season over some issue related to Paco. They're initially suspicious of him, but he's able to get out of trouble simply by acting like a pleasant, good-humored white guy. At that very moment he has Benji's dead body in the trunk of his car.
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* OutDamnedSpot: During an acid trip in season 2, Joe keeps seeing blood all over his hands.
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* PoliceAreUseless: More implied than explicit, but there are numerous occasions when a minimum of investigative effort into Joe's crimes or background would rumble him pretty quickly.

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* PoliceAreUseless: More implied than explicit, but there are numerous occasions when a minimum of investigative effort into Joe's crimes or background would rumble him pretty quickly. It's always non-police characters who figure him out and come closest to bringing him down.
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* PoliceAreUseless: More implied than explicit, but there are numerous occasions when a minimum of investigative effort into Joe's crimes or background would rumble him pretty quickly.
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** Season 4 has a nod to ''Film/{{TheShining}}'' when [[spoiler:Joe has a conversation at a bar lit from below with bright white light, with a man who isn't actually there]].

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** Season 4 has a nod to ''Film/{{TheShining}}'' ''Film/TheShining'' when [[spoiler:Joe has a conversation at a bar lit from below with bright white light, with a man who isn't actually there]].
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** Season 4 has a nod to ''Film/{{TheShining}}'' when [[spoiler:Joe has a conversation at a bar lit from below with bright white light, with a man who isn't actually there]].
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* InternetStalking: Joe becomes obsessed with Beck. He tries looking her up on Facebook but can't find her profile. He reverse-image searches a photo of her, and uses meta-data to find out what location she's from to narrow his Facebook search.
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** Very slight one. Joe [[spoiler:is immediately remorseful after he kills Beck in the book (albeit having killed her very brutally and sadistically) and breaks down in tears (though he gets over by the next chapter). In the show, his guilt is replaced with a sinisterly calm and wistful monologue about how he helped her, although he does break down and apologise while hallucinating her in the next season.]]

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** Very slight one. Joe [[spoiler:is immediately remorseful after he kills Beck in the book (albeit and breaks down in tears, albeit having killed her very brutally and sadistically) sadistically and breaks down in tears (though he gets getting over by the next chapter).in a few chapters). In the show, his guilt is replaced with a sinisterly calm and wistful monologue about how he helped her, although he does break down and apologise while hallucinating her in the next season.]]
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''You'' originally aired on Creator/{{Lifetime}} in late 2018, but it moved to Creator/{{Netflix}} for its second season. The second season dropped in December 2019, adapting the source material's sequel, ''Literature/HiddenBodies''. A third season launched in October 2021, with a fourth greenlit before the third's premiere. After sticking to the broad plots of the first two novels for the first two seasons, the third season of the series departs completely from the narrative of the books and bears almost no resemblance to the third novel, ''Literature/YouLoveMe.''

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''You'' originally aired on Creator/{{Lifetime}} in late 2018, but it moved to Creator/{{Netflix}} for its second season. The second season dropped in December 2019, adapting the source material's sequel, ''Literature/HiddenBodies''. A third season launched in October 2021, with a fourth greenlit before the third's premiere. After sticking to the broad plots of the first two novels for the first two seasons, the third season of the series departs completely from the narrative of the books and bears almost no resemblance to the third novel, ''Literature/YouLoveMe.''
'' On March 24, 2023, it was announced that the show had been renewed for a fifth and final season.
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* EvilIsNotAToy: In season 4, when [[spoiler:Tom Lockwood learns that his daughter Kate is dating a killer]], rather than turning him in, he decides to use him to [[spoiler:assassinate a political rival, with the intention of then having Joe get caught]]. As could expected, this blows up on his face quite spectacularly, [[spoiler:as Joe ends up killing Lockwood]].
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* FiveSecondForeshadowing: Before Joe confronts [[spoiler:Rhys, the latter can be seen arguing with his ex-wife, being uncharacteristically animated and open. Moments later, he is revealed to have nothing to do with Joe.]]

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* FiveSecondForeshadowing: Before Joe confronts [[spoiler:Rhys, the latter can be seen arguing with his ex-wife, being uncharacteristically animated distressed and open.agitated. Moments later, he is revealed to have nothing to do with Joe.]]
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** Season 4 presents this wholesale, [[spoiler: The Eat the Rich killings are pinned on a fanatical stalker of Phoebe, and Joe manages to not only kill Rhys Montrose, a sitting mayoral candidate, but also place the blame on the two students who began to investigate him for the previous killings. He survives his attempted suicide and is welcomed into open arms by Kate, even though he murdered her father hours before. Kate's access to her father's resources allows Joe complete autonomy within the United States again, posturing the couple as survivors of abuse who turned to philanthropy. Instead of changing for the better, Joe completely embraces his dark side - with enough power and influence from the Lockwoods that the Quinns never managed to match.]]
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* DidYouActuallyBelieve: When Katherine stands up to her father on building her own life without his help, her dad scoffs and asks Katherine if she really believes so many opportunities, from a plush internship to getting a great apartment to magazine appearances, just happened to fall into her lap, when he made sure they did.
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Joe gets a rare dose of this in Season 4 when [[spoiler: he realizes his Rhys alter pushed him to abduct Marianne and put her in a cell to "win" her back. When he tries to reach her family, he discovers Juliette's grandmother became convinced Marianne had relapsed and abandoned her daughter and suing for custody, wrecking her.]]
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** Season 4, Episode 7 has [[spoiler: "Rhys" walk Joe through the entire fourth season for Joe to realize "Rhys" is an alternate persona and he never met the real guy.]]


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** Season 4 is this after it's revealed [[spoiler: "Rhys" has been an alternate persona in Joe's mind all this time and Joe has been imagining every conversation they had.]]

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