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** [[spoiler:Thanks to Washington taking possession of all the former or fleeing slaves on the way to Nova Scotia, Abigail is forced back into slavery -- but filches a pistol from one of her guards as she's packed off in a cart; since the Culper Ring later receive a letter in code from Nova Scotia, it's heavily implied that she manages to escape and get to Canada]]

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** [[spoiler:Thanks to Washington taking possession of all the former or fleeing slaves on the way to Nova Scotia, Abigail is forced back into slavery -- but she filches a pistol from one of her guards as she's packed off in a cart; since the Culper Ring later receive a letter in code from Nova Scotia, it's heavily implied that she manages to escape and get to Canada]] Canada (and footage that was shot but never included in the show confirmed that she did make it);]]
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** Simcoe might be a psychopath, but he's also a staunch abolitionist.

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** King George III is depicted as being mad, but in real life his first bout of mental illness wasn't until 1788, well after the American Revolution.



** John Graves Simcoe in the show is the opposite of the real Simcoe. The show's Simcoe is a bloodthirsty psychopath. Although the real Simcoe did piss off the townsfolk of Setauket, he was for the most part an honorable man who served after the war as an extremely efficient administrator in Canada, and is still remembered and celebrated to this day (they named [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Simcoe a rather large lake]] after him). Downplayed somewhat, believe it or not; Simcoe admitted later in his career that he had been a bit of an asshole on Long Island, even though he was never nearly as horrible as portrayed on the show.

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** John Graves Simcoe in the show is the opposite of the real Simcoe. The show's Simcoe is a bloodthirsty psychopath. Although the real Simcoe did piss off the townsfolk of Setauket, he was for the most part an honorable man who served after the war as an extremely efficient administrator in Canada, and is still remembered and celebrated to this day (they named [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Simcoe a rather large lake]] after him).him and Simcoe Day is celebrated the first Monday in August in Toronto). Downplayed somewhat, believe it or not; Simcoe admitted later in his career that he had been a bit of an asshole on Long Island, even though he was never nearly as horrible as portrayed on the show.
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* KarmaHoudini: Simcoe — see JokerImmunity above.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: Yes, the Patriot forces really did have a crude version of a submarine called a Turtle.

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* LousyLoversAreLosers: In "Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot", Peggy engages in unfulfilling sex with Benedict Arnold, where we see her blankly staring ahead while she's being boned from behind.



** Series 2 throws Major Hewlett into the mix, when he begins to court Anna. And glowering on the edge is Simcoe, who is obsessed with Anna but is flat out loathed by everyone else in the equation.

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** Series 2 throws Major Hewlett into the mix, when he begins to court Anna. And glowering on the edge is Simcoe, who is obsessed with Anna but is flat out flat-out loathed by everyone else in the equation.
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* AngryBlackMan: Jordan/Akinbode. Though, as a former slave, you can't say that he doesn't have his reasons. He gets calmer when he joins the Queen's Ranger and becomes Simcoe's right hand man.
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** Major Andre's captors John Paulding, Isaac Van Wart and David Williams are misidentified as "Skinners". They were actually off-duty New York miltia.


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* HistoricalDowngrade: John Paulding, Isaac Van Wart and David Williams, the men who captured Major Andre, are subject to this. Robert Rodgers is given credit for setting up his capture and the group are negatively depicted as "patriot raiders" rather then the New York militia they actually were.
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** There are multiple references to Akinbode and/or Abigail seeking freedom from slavery in Canada. Slavery in Canada was legal at the time and would remain legal for several years after. Slavery was semi-banned in Ontario in 1793 under a law passed by the governor of the province--John Graves Simcoe.

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** There are multiple references to Akinbode and/or Abigail seeking freedom from slavery in Canada. Slavery in Canada was legal at the time time, and would remain legal for several years after. Slavery was semi-banned in what is now Ontario in 1793 under a law passed by the lieutenant governor of the province--John Upper Canada--John Graves Simcoe.



** The sweet: [[spoiler:The colonies become independent, and most of the Culper Ring go on to live happy, productive lives. Hewlett achieves his dream of being an astronomer and has a loving wife. Simcoe somewhat reforms and, while Governor of Canada, abolishes slavery, making it a safer place for Akinbode, Cicero and Abigail (when she ''eventually'' gets there) to live.]]

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** The sweet: [[spoiler:The colonies become independent, and most of the Culper Ring go on to live happy, productive lives. Hewlett achieves his dream of being an astronomer and has a loving wife. Simcoe somewhat reforms and, while Lieutenant Governor of Upper Canada, abolishes slavery, making it a safer place for Akinbode, Cicero and Abigail (when she ''eventually'' gets there) to live.]]



** [[spoiler:Simcoe, as Governor of Canada, abolishes slavery in his province, and Akinbode and Cicero can live in peace;]]

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** [[spoiler:Simcoe, as Lieutenant Governor of Upper Canada, legally abolishes slavery in his province, the province in 1793 (Lower Canada would do so in practice in 1803), and Akinbode and Cicero can live in peace;]]
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** [[spoiler:Thanks to Washington taking possession of all the former or fleeing slaves on the way to Nova Scotia, Abigail is forced back into slavery -- but filches a pistol from one of her guards as she's packed off in a cart; since the Culper Ring later receive a letter in code from Nova Scotia, it's heavily implied that she manages to escape and get to Canada[[note]] Idara Victor, her actress, [[https://www.instagram.com/p/BXv7xL5F9gO/?taken-by=idaravictor confirmed that she did make it]][[/note]];]]

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** [[spoiler:Thanks to Washington taking possession of all the former or fleeing slaves on the way to Nova Scotia, Abigail is forced back into slavery -- but filches a pistol from one of her guards as she's packed off in a cart; since the Culper Ring later receive a letter in code from Nova Scotia, it's heavily implied that she manages to escape and get to Canada[[note]] Idara Victor, her actress, [[https://www.instagram.com/p/BXv7xL5F9gO/?taken-by=idaravictor confirmed that she did make it]][[/note]];]] Canada]]

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* DidntThinkThisThrough:
** Sackett tries to infiltrate an agent into New York by having the man pretend that he is Lt. Terrence, a British officer who was captured by the Americans and is now being returned in a prisoner swap. The agent lacks basic knowledge about being a British officer and is quickly found out by both Major Andre and Captain Simcoe. [[spoiler: Andre planned to turn him into a DoubleAgent, while Simcoe stabs him in the throat.]]
** Major Hewlett's efforts to fortify the British position around the church end up being for nothing when he makes the basic blunder of [[spoiler: not securing his flank]].



* RealityEnsues:
** Sackett tries to infiltrate an agent into New York by having the man pretend that he is Lt. Terrence, a British officer who was captured by the Americans and is now being returned in a prisoner swap. The agent lacks basic knowledge about being a British officer and is quickly found out by both Major Andre and Captain Simcoe. [[spoiler: Andre planned to turn him into a DoubleAgent, while Simcoe stabs him in the throat.]]
** Major Hewlett's efforts to fortify the British position around the church end up being for nothing when he makes the basic blunder of [[spoiler: not securing his flank]].

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* RealityEnsues:
** Sackett tries to infiltrate an agent into New York by having the man pretend that he is Lt. Terrence, a British officer who was captured by the Americans and is now being returned in a prisoner swap. The agent lacks basic knowledge about being a British officer and is quickly found out by both Major Andre and Captain Simcoe. [[spoiler: Andre planned to turn him into a DoubleAgent, while Simcoe stabs him in the throat.]]
** Major Hewlett's efforts to fortify the British position around the church end up being for nothing when he makes the basic blunder of [[spoiler: not securing his flank]].
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** John Graves Simcoe in the show is the opposite of the real Simcoe. The show's Simcoe is a bloodthirsty psychopath. Although the real Simcoe did piss off the townsfolk of Setauket, he was for the most part an honorable man who served after the war as an extremely efficient administrator in Canada, and is still remembered and celebrated to this day.

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** John Graves Simcoe in the show is the opposite of the real Simcoe. The show's Simcoe is a bloodthirsty psychopath. Although the real Simcoe did piss off the townsfolk of Setauket, he was for the most part an honorable man who served after the war as an extremely efficient administrator in Canada, and is still remembered and celebrated to this day.day (they named [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Simcoe a rather large lake]] after him). Downplayed somewhat, believe it or not; Simcoe admitted later in his career that he had been a bit of an asshole on Long Island, even though he was never nearly as horrible as portrayed on the show.
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* ArmorPiercingResponse: Arnold and Andre meet in a cabin to settle details about the surrender of West Point. Arnold holds out for more money, but Andre delivers a satisfying zinger in response.
-->'''Arnold''': I'm a bloody war hero!\\
'''Andre''': For '''''them'''''.
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** While great historical liberties are taken with Abraham Woodhull and the rest of the Culper ring, as well subjecting Simcoe to a HistorialVillainUpgrade, the Benedict Arnold plot line from Season 3 is quite faithful to history. The show renders small details like Arnold's meeting with Andre in an isolated cabin and Arnold writing a pass for Andre to pass on foot after the ship carrying Andre was forced to withdraw by Patriot cannon fire. [[spoiler:They also get Andre's execution almost exactly right, down to his last few words; the only difference the show has from [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Andr%C3%A9#Eyewitness_account an actual eyewitness account of the event]] is that in real life Andre apparently died almost instantly upon being hanged, while in the show his neck doesn't break right away and he throttles for a while before Ben and Caleb give him a MercyKill.]]

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** While great historical liberties are taken with Abraham Woodhull and the rest of the Culper ring, as well subjecting Simcoe to a HistorialVillainUpgrade, HistoricalVillainUpgrade, the Benedict Arnold plot line from Season 3 is quite faithful to history. The show renders small details like Arnold's meeting with Andre in an isolated cabin and Arnold writing a pass for Andre to pass on foot after the ship carrying Andre was forced to withdraw by Patriot cannon fire. [[spoiler:They also get Andre's execution almost exactly right, down to his last few words; the only difference the show has from [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Andr%C3%A9#Eyewitness_account an actual eyewitness account of the event]] is that in real life Andre apparently died almost instantly upon being hanged, while in the show his neck doesn't break right away and he throttles for a while before Ben and Caleb give him a MercyKill.]]
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* WorthyOpponent: Ben and John Andre eventually come to regard each other as this [[spoiler:during Andre's last few days and execution. Ben helps Andre to die quickly when he's throttling to death after his neck didn't break while being hanged, and after the execution he even takes pity on Peggy Shippen (who he's realised was involved in her husband's treachery) because she and Andre were in love, and advises her to get to safety. Years later he breaks the Ring's vow of secrecy to stand up in Congress and denounce the men who captured and searched Andre, seeing them as opportunistic thieves rather than patriots.]]
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** While great historical liberties are taken with Abraham Woodhull and the rest of the Culper ring, as well subjecting Simcoe to a HistorialVillainUpgrade, the Benedict Arnold plot line from Season 3 is quite faithful to history. The show renders small details like Arnold's meeting with Andre in an isolated cabin and Arnold writing a pass for Andre to pass on foot after the ship carrying Andre was forced to withdraw by Patriot cannon fire. [[spoiler:They also get Andre's execution almost exactly right, down to his last few words; the only difference the show has from [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Andr%C3%A9#Eyewitness_account an actual eyewitness account of the event]] is that in real life Andre apparently died instantly upon being hung, while in the show he throttles for a while before Ben and Caleb give him a MercyKill.]]

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** While great historical liberties are taken with Abraham Woodhull and the rest of the Culper ring, as well subjecting Simcoe to a HistorialVillainUpgrade, the Benedict Arnold plot line from Season 3 is quite faithful to history. The show renders small details like Arnold's meeting with Andre in an isolated cabin and Arnold writing a pass for Andre to pass on foot after the ship carrying Andre was forced to withdraw by Patriot cannon fire. [[spoiler:They also get Andre's execution almost exactly right, down to his last few words; the only difference the show has from [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Andr%C3%A9#Eyewitness_account an actual eyewitness account of the event]] is that in real life Andre apparently died almost instantly upon being hung, hanged, while in the show his neck doesn't break right away and he throttles for a while before Ben and Caleb give him a MercyKill.]]
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* OneDegreeOfSeparation: Basically everyone in the main cast knows each other in some fashion. And the show actually tones it down from RealLife!

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* OneDegreeOfSeparation: Basically everyone in the main cast knows each other in some fashion. And the show actually tones it down from RealLife!RealLife! [[note]]In reality Simcoe was stationed at the Townsend home at one point, with Andre visiting him. Simcoe was apparently infatuated with Robert Townsend's sister, Sally, and ''she'' was the recipient of the Valentine Simcoe writes for Anna in the show.[[/note]]



** Simcoe writing Anna a romantic poem in season two might seem like it's reaching a bit, but the real Simcoe did in fact write the first recorded Valentine in America. The recipient: the real life Robert Townsend's sister, Sally!

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** Simcoe writing Anna a romantic poem in season two might seem like it's reaching a bit, but the real Simcoe did in fact write what is considered to be the first recorded Valentine in America. The recipient: the recipient? The real life Robert Townsend's sister, Sally!
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** While great historical liberties are taken with Abraham Woodhull and the rest of the Culper ring, as well subjecting Simcoe to a HistorialVillainUpgrade, the Benedict Arnold plot line from Season 3 is quite faithful to history. The show renders small details like Arnold's meeting with Andre in an isolated cabin and Arnold writing a pass for Andre to pass on foot after the ship carrying Andre was forced to withdraw by Patriot cannon fire.

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** While great historical liberties are taken with Abraham Woodhull and the rest of the Culper ring, as well subjecting Simcoe to a HistorialVillainUpgrade, the Benedict Arnold plot line from Season 3 is quite faithful to history. The show renders small details like Arnold's meeting with Andre in an isolated cabin and Arnold writing a pass for Andre to pass on foot after the ship carrying Andre was forced to withdraw by Patriot cannon fire. [[spoiler:They also get Andre's execution almost exactly right, down to his last few words; the only difference the show has from [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Andr%C3%A9#Eyewitness_account an actual eyewitness account of the event]] is that in real life Andre apparently died instantly upon being hung, while in the show he throttles for a while before Ben and Caleb give him a MercyKill.]]
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* YourCheatingHeart: Anna and Abraham finally act on all that sexual tension in "Challenge".
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** The bitter: [[spoiler:Slavery continues in America despite all of Selah and Hamilton's attempts to stop it, Abigail is enslaved once more and has to make a break for freedom, and Abraham regretfully notes [[Useful Notes/TheAmericanCivilWar that the bill for such cruelty will have to be paid in time.]] Peggy is trapped in a horrible, loveless marriage. Anna seems more settled in her role as wife and mother, but also doesn't really seem that content with her life, leaving it up in the air whether she misses Abraham or Hewlett. And Thomas Woodhull, believing that his father was a great soldier during the Revolutionary War rather than a spy, tries to emulate him -- and is killed during the War of 1812.]]

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** The bitter: [[spoiler:Slavery continues in America despite all of Selah and Hamilton's attempts to stop it, Abigail is enslaved once more and has to make a break for freedom, and Abraham regretfully notes [[Useful Notes/TheAmericanCivilWar [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar that the bill for such cruelty will have to be paid in time.]] Peggy is trapped in a horrible, loveless marriage. Anna seems more settled in her role as wife and mother, but also doesn't really seem that content with her life, leaving it up in the air whether she misses Abraham or Hewlett. And Thomas Woodhull, believing that his father was a great soldier during the Revolutionary War rather than a spy, tries to emulate him -- and is killed during the War of 1812.]]
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** The bitter: [[spoiler:Slavery continues in America despite all of Selah and Hamilton's attempts to stop it, Abigail is enslaved once more and has to make a break for freedom, and Abraham regretfully notes that the bill for such cruelty will have to be paid in time. Peggy is trapped in a horrible, loveless marriage. Anna seems more settled in her role as wife and mother, but also doesn't really seem that content with her life, leaving it up in the air whether she misses Abraham or Hewlett. And Thomas Woodhull, believing that his father was a great soldier during the Revolutionary War rather than a spy, tries to emulate him -- and is killed during the War of 1812.]]

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** The bitter: [[spoiler:Slavery continues in America despite all of Selah and Hamilton's attempts to stop it, Abigail is enslaved once more and has to make a break for freedom, and Abraham regretfully notes [[Useful Notes/TheAmericanCivilWar that the bill for such cruelty will have to be paid in time. time.]] Peggy is trapped in a horrible, loveless marriage. Anna seems more settled in her role as wife and mother, but also doesn't really seem that content with her life, leaving it up in the air whether she misses Abraham or Hewlett. And Thomas Woodhull, believing that his father was a great soldier during the Revolutionary War rather than a spy, tries to emulate him -- and is killed during the War of 1812.]]
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* ZipMeUp: Abraham helps Anna with the buttons to her dress in "Challenge".

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* ZipMeUp: Abraham helps Anna with the buttons to her dress in "Challenge"."Challenge".
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* NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: Kevin [=McNally=]'s Richard Woodhull is the only person who speaks with a modern American accent. Ironically, [=McNally=] is English

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