History Series / SpartacusBloodAndSand

2nd Oct '17 1:43:39 AM Aurelian
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** [[spoiler: Tiberius']] motivation for raping [[spoiler: Caesar]] and the latter's silence about it afterwards only make sense in a modern context. In Ancient Rome, the rape of any ''free-born citizen'' held the [[SeriousBusiness death penalty]] - and while the rape of an adult male wouldn't be directly punished through courts[[note]]Unlike the rape of a maiden, matron or any sexual contact between a man and a citizen boy who wasn't yet declared an adult, which usually happened at 15.[[/note]], the victim would be full within his rights to kill his attacker.[[note]] We have a historical case where a soldier got a ''medal'' for killing his superior officer while the latter tried to sexually assault him.[[/note]] And even if it came to a political scandal over this incident: [[spoiler: Caesar]] is the ''pater familias'' of an old, respected (though somewhat impoverished) noble house, with a young daughter to ally himself to another by engangement[[note]]He eventually marries her to Pompey, to cement the Triumvirate involving him, Pompey and Crassus.[[/note]], and has already served his country as a priest, minor official and by wiping out some pirates, whereas [[spoiler: Tiberius]] is the barely adult, completely undistinguished son of nouveau riche [[spoiler: Crassus]], whom the entire Senate hates for not "knowing his place". Who do you think they'd side with in a legal battle? Also, aside from signing his own death warrant and dooming his family, [[spoiler: Tiberius's]] threat of making the humilation public and thus harming [[spoiler: Caesar's]] reputation doesn't make sense with this particular victim, as the real [[spoiler:Caesar]] was rumored to have had an affair as a teenager with King Nicomedes of Bithynia while on a diplomatic mission, leading his enemies to quip that he was "a man to any woman, and a woman to any man".[[note]]Which, despite general expectations that Roman men should want to fuck AnythingThatMoves, ''was'' a genuine problem, as proof of voluntary bottoming - i.e. acting "like a woman" - would have saddled the man so accused with the legal status of "infamy", which among other losses in civil rights, would prevent him from ever holding public office. Since Caesar would have been the younger and lower-ranking partner in that affair, the Romans automatically assumed that he would have bottomed, because in their society, the person of lower social rank ''always'' was supposed to "serve the pleasure" of the higher-ranking one. Free-born male citizens couldn't have a sexual relationship with each other ''because'' they were of equal social rank.[[/note]] Regardless, whether true or not the rumors never seriously harmed his career. It also doesn't fit with what we know of the historical [[spoiler: Caesar's]] personality: personally brave and supremely self-confident. This is a man who after being kidnapped and ransomed by pirates (after first doubling his own ransom), hunted them all down and crucified them, and also received the very rare honor of the ''corona civica'' (civic crown), awarded for saving the life of a fellow citizen.

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** [[spoiler: Tiberius']] motivation for raping [[spoiler: Caesar]] and the latter's silence about it afterwards only make sense in a modern context. In Ancient Rome, the rape of any ''free-born citizen'' held the [[SeriousBusiness death penalty]] - and while the rape of an adult male wouldn't be directly punished through courts[[note]]Unlike the rape of a maiden, matron or any sexual contact between a man and a citizen boy who wasn't yet declared an adult, which usually happened at 15.[[/note]], the victim would be full within his rights to kill his attacker.[[note]] We have a historical case where a soldier got a ''medal'' for killing his superior officer while the latter tried to sexually assault him.[[/note]] And even if it came to a political scandal over this incident: [[spoiler: Caesar]] is the ''pater familias'' of an old, respected (though somewhat impoverished) noble house, with a young daughter to ally himself to another by engangement[[note]]He eventually marries her to Pompey, to cement the Triumvirate involving him, Pompey and Crassus.[[/note]], and has already served his country as a priest, minor official and by wiping out some pirates, whereas [[spoiler: Tiberius]] is the barely adult, completely undistinguished son of nouveau riche [[spoiler: Crassus]], whom the entire Senate hates for not "knowing his place". Who do you think they'd side with in a legal battle? Also, aside from signing his own death warrant and dooming his family, [[spoiler: Tiberius's]] threat of making the humilation public and thus harming [[spoiler: Caesar's]] reputation doesn't make sense with this particular victim, as the real [[spoiler:Caesar]] was rumored to have had an affair as a teenager with King Nicomedes of Bithynia while on a diplomatic mission, leading his enemies to quip that he was "a man to any woman, and a woman to any man".[[note]]Which, despite general expectations that Roman men should want to fuck AnythingThatMoves, ''was'' a genuine problem, as proof of voluntary bottoming - i.e. acting "like a woman" - would have saddled the man so accused with the legal status of "infamy", which among other losses in civil rights, would prevent him from ever holding public office. Since Caesar would have been the younger and lower-ranking partner in that affair, the Romans automatically assumed that he would have bottomed, because in their society, the person of lower social rank ''always'' was supposed to "serve the pleasure" of the higher-ranking one. Free-born male citizens couldn't have a sexual relationship with each other ''because'' they were of equal social rank.[[/note]] Regardless, whether true or not Friends and enemies alike happily repeated the rumors throughout [[spoiler: Caesar's]] life, much to his annoyance, but they still never seriously harmed his career.career or stopped him winning the respect of his legions. It also doesn't fit with what we know of the historical [[spoiler: Caesar's]] personality: personally brave and supremely self-confident. This is a man who after being kidnapped and ransomed by pirates (after first doubling his own ransom), hunted them all down and crucified them, and also received the very rare honor of the ''corona civica'' (civic crown), awarded for saving the life of a fellow citizen.
15th Sep '17 5:02:36 PM Aurelian
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** [[spoiler: Tiberius']] motivation for raping [[spoiler: Caesar]] and the latter's silence about it afterwards only make sense in a modern context. In Ancient Rome, the rape of any ''free-born citizen'' held the [[SeriousBusiness death penalty]] - and while the rape of an adult male wouldn't be directly punished through courts[[note]]Unlike the rape of a maiden, matron or any sexual contact between a man and a citizen boy who wasn't yet declared an adult, which usually happened at 15.[[/note]], the victim would be full within his rights to kill his attacker.[[note]] We have a historical case where a soldier got a ''medal'' for killing his superior officer while the latter tried to sexually assault him.[[/note]] And even if it came to a political scandal over this incident: [[spoiler: Caesar]] is the ''pater familias'' of an old, respected (though somewhat impoverished) noble house, with a young daughter to ally himself to another by engangement[[note]]He eventually marries her to Pompey, to cement the Triumvirate involving him, Pompey and Crassus.[[/note]], and has already served his country as a priest, minor official and by wiping out some pirates, whereas [[spoiler: Tiberius]] is the barely adult, completely undistinguished son of nouveau riche [[spoiler: Crassus]], whom the entire Senate hates for not "knowing his place". Who do you think they'd side with in a legal battle? Also, aside from signing his own death warrant and dooming his family, [[spoiler: Tiberius's]] threat of making the humilation public and thus harming [[spoiler: Caesar's]] reputation doesn't make sense with this particular victim, as [[spoiler: Caesar]] already had rumors going on about him supposedly being "a man to any woman, and a woman to any man"[[note]]Which, despite general expectations that Roman men should want to fuck AnythingThatMoves, ''was'' a genuine problem, as proof of voluntary bottoming - i.e. acting "like a woman" - would have saddled the man so accused with the legal status of "infamy", which among other losses in civil rights, would prevent him from ever holding public office.[[/note]] ever since he was 19, due to a possible affair with a foreign king during a stint as a sort of ambassador for the Roman Republic.[[note]]Since he would have been the younger and lower-ranking partner in that affair, the Romans automatically assumed that he would have bottomed, because in their society, the person of lower social rank ''always'' was supposed to "serve the pleasure" of the higher-ranking one. Free-born male citizens couldn't have a sexual relationship with each other ''because'' they were of equal social rank.[[/note]] It also doesn't fit with what we know of the historical [[spoiler: Caesar's]] personality: personally brave and supremely self-confident. This is a man who after being kidnapped and ransomed by pirates (after first doubling his own ransom), hunted them all down and crucified them, and also received the very rare honor of the ''corona civica'' (civic crown), awarded for saving the life of a fellow citizen.

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** [[spoiler: Tiberius']] motivation for raping [[spoiler: Caesar]] and the latter's silence about it afterwards only make sense in a modern context. In Ancient Rome, the rape of any ''free-born citizen'' held the [[SeriousBusiness death penalty]] - and while the rape of an adult male wouldn't be directly punished through courts[[note]]Unlike the rape of a maiden, matron or any sexual contact between a man and a citizen boy who wasn't yet declared an adult, which usually happened at 15.[[/note]], the victim would be full within his rights to kill his attacker.[[note]] We have a historical case where a soldier got a ''medal'' for killing his superior officer while the latter tried to sexually assault him.[[/note]] And even if it came to a political scandal over this incident: [[spoiler: Caesar]] is the ''pater familias'' of an old, respected (though somewhat impoverished) noble house, with a young daughter to ally himself to another by engangement[[note]]He eventually marries her to Pompey, to cement the Triumvirate involving him, Pompey and Crassus.[[/note]], and has already served his country as a priest, minor official and by wiping out some pirates, whereas [[spoiler: Tiberius]] is the barely adult, completely undistinguished son of nouveau riche [[spoiler: Crassus]], whom the entire Senate hates for not "knowing his place". Who do you think they'd side with in a legal battle? Also, aside from signing his own death warrant and dooming his family, [[spoiler: Tiberius's]] threat of making the humilation public and thus harming [[spoiler: Caesar's]] reputation doesn't make sense with this particular victim, as [[spoiler: Caesar]] already the real [[spoiler:Caesar]] was rumored to have had rumors going an affair as a teenager with King Nicomedes of Bithynia while on about him supposedly being a diplomatic mission, leading his enemies to quip that he was "a man to any woman, and a woman to any man"[[note]]Which, man".[[note]]Which, despite general expectations that Roman men should want to fuck AnythingThatMoves, ''was'' a genuine problem, as proof of voluntary bottoming - i.e. acting "like a woman" - would have saddled the man so accused with the legal status of "infamy", which among other losses in civil rights, would prevent him from ever holding public office.[[/note]] ever since he was 19, due to a possible affair with a foreign king during a stint as a sort of ambassador for the Roman Republic.[[note]]Since he Since Caesar would have been the younger and lower-ranking partner in that affair, the Romans automatically assumed that he would have bottomed, because in their society, the person of lower social rank ''always'' was supposed to "serve the pleasure" of the higher-ranking one. Free-born male citizens couldn't have a sexual relationship with each other ''because'' they were of equal social rank.[[/note]] Regardless, whether true or not the rumors never seriously harmed his career. It also doesn't fit with what we know of the historical [[spoiler: Caesar's]] personality: personally brave and supremely self-confident. This is a man who after being kidnapped and ransomed by pirates (after first doubling his own ransom), hunted them all down and crucified them, and also received the very rare honor of the ''corona civica'' (civic crown), awarded for saving the life of a fellow citizen.
28th Aug '17 3:29:23 PM Aurelian
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* Spartacus' final DuelToTheDeath with [[spoiler:Crassus]] is entirely fictional. In reality they never met, and Spartacus probably died on the battlefield.

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* ** Spartacus' final DuelToTheDeath with [[spoiler:Crassus]] is entirely fictional. In reality they never met, and Spartacus probably died on the battlefield.
28th Aug '17 3:27:44 PM Aurelian
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* Spartacus' final DuelToTheDeath with [[spoiler:Crassus]] is entirely fictional. In reality they never met, and Spartacus probably died on the battlefield.
28th Aug '17 10:22:46 AM Aurelian
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** [[spoiler: Tiberius']] motivation for raping [[spoiler: Caesar]] and the latter's silence about it afterwards only make sense in a modern context. In Ancient Rome, the rape of any ''free-born citizen'' held the [[SeriousBusiness death penalty]] - and while the rape of an adult male wouldn't be directly punished through courts[[note]]Unlike the rape of a maiden, matron or any sexual contact between a man and a citizen boy who wasn't yet declared an adult, which usually happened at 15.[[/note]], the victim would be full within his rights to kill his attacker.[[note]] We have a historical case where a soldier got a ''medal'' for killing his superior officer while the latter tried to sexually assault him.[[/note]] And even if it came to a political scandal over this incident: [[spoiler: Caesar]] is the ''pater familias'' of an old, respected (though somewhat impoverished) noble house, with a young daughter to ally himself to another by engangement[[note]]He eventually marries her to Pompey, to cement the Triumvirate involving him, Pompey and Crassus.[[/note]], and has already served his country as a priest, minor official and by wiping out some pirates, whereas [[spoiler: Tiberius]] is the barely adult, completely undistinguished son of nouveau riche [[spoiler: Crassus]], whom the entire Senate hates for not "knowing his place". Who do you think they'd side with in a legal battle? Also, aside from signing his own death warrant and dooming his family, [[spoiler: Tiberius's]] threat of making the humilation public and thus harming [[spoiler: Caesar's]] reputation doesn't make sense with this particular victim, as [[spoiler: Caesar]] already had rumors going on about him supposedly being "a man to any woman, and a woman to any man"[[note]]Which, despite general expectations that Roman men should want to fuck AnythingThatMoves, ''was'' a genuine problem, as proof of voluntary bottoming - i.e. acting "like a woman" - would have saddled the man so accused with the legal status of "infamy", which among other losses in civil rights, would prevent him from ever holding public office.[[/note]] ever since he was 19, due to a possible affair with a foreign king during a stint as a sort of ambassador for the Roman Republic.[[note]]Since he would have been the younger and lower-ranking partner in that affair, the Romans automatically assumed that he would have bottomed, because in their society, the person of lower social rank ''always'' was supposed to "serve the pleasure" of the higher-ranking one. Free-born male citizens couldn't have a sexual relationship with each other ''because'' they were of equal social rank.[[/note]]

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** [[spoiler: Tiberius']] motivation for raping [[spoiler: Caesar]] and the latter's silence about it afterwards only make sense in a modern context. In Ancient Rome, the rape of any ''free-born citizen'' held the [[SeriousBusiness death penalty]] - and while the rape of an adult male wouldn't be directly punished through courts[[note]]Unlike the rape of a maiden, matron or any sexual contact between a man and a citizen boy who wasn't yet declared an adult, which usually happened at 15.[[/note]], the victim would be full within his rights to kill his attacker.[[note]] We have a historical case where a soldier got a ''medal'' for killing his superior officer while the latter tried to sexually assault him.[[/note]] And even if it came to a political scandal over this incident: [[spoiler: Caesar]] is the ''pater familias'' of an old, respected (though somewhat impoverished) noble house, with a young daughter to ally himself to another by engangement[[note]]He eventually marries her to Pompey, to cement the Triumvirate involving him, Pompey and Crassus.[[/note]], and has already served his country as a priest, minor official and by wiping out some pirates, whereas [[spoiler: Tiberius]] is the barely adult, completely undistinguished son of nouveau riche [[spoiler: Crassus]], whom the entire Senate hates for not "knowing his place". Who do you think they'd side with in a legal battle? Also, aside from signing his own death warrant and dooming his family, [[spoiler: Tiberius's]] threat of making the humilation public and thus harming [[spoiler: Caesar's]] reputation doesn't make sense with this particular victim, as [[spoiler: Caesar]] already had rumors going on about him supposedly being "a man to any woman, and a woman to any man"[[note]]Which, despite general expectations that Roman men should want to fuck AnythingThatMoves, ''was'' a genuine problem, as proof of voluntary bottoming - i.e. acting "like a woman" - would have saddled the man so accused with the legal status of "infamy", which among other losses in civil rights, would prevent him from ever holding public office.[[/note]] ever since he was 19, due to a possible affair with a foreign king during a stint as a sort of ambassador for the Roman Republic.[[note]]Since he would have been the younger and lower-ranking partner in that affair, the Romans automatically assumed that he would have bottomed, because in their society, the person of lower social rank ''always'' was supposed to "serve the pleasure" of the higher-ranking one. Free-born male citizens couldn't have a sexual relationship with each other ''because'' they were of equal social rank.[[/note]][[/note]] It also doesn't fit with what we know of the historical [[spoiler: Caesar's]] personality: personally brave and supremely self-confident. This is a man who after being kidnapped and ransomed by pirates (after first doubling his own ransom), hunted them all down and crucified them, and also received the very rare honor of the ''corona civica'' (civic crown), awarded for saving the life of a fellow citizen.
24th Aug '17 6:48:26 AM VioletVisions
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** He also lost [[spoiler: his son Tiberius, and had his memory of him utterly destroyed posthumously after being told what a monster Tiberius had become]] ''and'' was "forced" by social expectations to [[spoiler: execute his "beloved" SexSlave Kore]] in the process. [[spoiler: (Because the other Roman nobles [[sarcasmMode totally]] would have recognized Crassus' bedwarmer among the thousands of other dirt-covered, crucified slaves, so he couldn't just have told her to disappear...)]]

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** He also lost [[spoiler: his son Tiberius, and had his memory of him utterly destroyed posthumously after being told what a monster Tiberius had become]] ''and'' was "forced" by social expectations to [[spoiler: execute his "beloved" SexSlave Kore]] in the process. [[spoiler: (Because the other Roman nobles [[sarcasmMode [[SarcasmMode totally]] would have recognized [[spoiler: Crassus' bedwarmer among the thousands of other dirt-covered, crucified slaves, so he couldn't just have told her to disappear...)]]
24th Aug '17 6:46:20 AM VioletVisions
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* DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale: For once, averted - [[spoiler: Tiberius']] rape of [[spoiler: Caesar}} is presented as brutal, humiliating and the victim full within his right to take his revenge. The fact that the scene [[ArtisticLicenseHistory makes no sense in historical context]][[note]]See above under General Tropes for details.[[/note]] leaves the impression that the writers included it specifically to say: See? This is what happens when a society tolerates sexual assault on the weak and dehumanized, and tries to raise boys into unfeeling, violent "soldiers". In such a society, not even the strongest manly men are safe.

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* DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale: For once, averted - [[spoiler: Tiberius']] rape of [[spoiler: Caesar}} Caesar]] is presented as brutal, humiliating and the victim full within his right to take his revenge. The fact that the scene [[ArtisticLicenseHistory makes no sense in historical context]][[note]]See above under General Tropes for details.[[/note]] leaves the impression that the writers included it specifically to say: See? This is what happens when a society tolerates sexual assault on the weak and dehumanized, and tries to raise boys into unfeeling, violent "soldiers". In such a society, not even the strongest manly men are safe.



** He also lost [[spoiler: his son Tiberius, and had his memory of him utterly destroyed posthumously after being told what a monster Tiberius had become]] ''and'' was forced to [[spoiler: execute his lover Kore]] in the process.

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** He also lost [[spoiler: his son Tiberius, and had his memory of him utterly destroyed posthumously after being told what a monster Tiberius had become]] ''and'' was forced "forced" by social expectations to [[spoiler: execute his lover "beloved" SexSlave Kore]] in the process. [[spoiler: (Because the other Roman nobles [[sarcasmMode totally]] would have recognized Crassus' bedwarmer among the thousands of other dirt-covered, crucified slaves, so he couldn't just have told her to disappear...)]]
24th Aug '17 6:36:55 AM VioletVisions
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* AwfulTruth: Crassus learns a pretty terrible truth towards the end of the season: his beloved son [[spoiler: was a monster who brutally raped his lover, eventually leading her to kill him, murdered a slave who knew about the rape and also assaulted Caeser for calling him out on it]]. He (understandably) doesn't take it very well at all.

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* AwfulTruth: Crassus learns a pretty terrible truth towards the end of the season: his beloved son [[spoiler: was a monster who brutally raped his lover, "beloved" SexSlave, eventually leading her to kill him, murdered a slave who knew about the rape and also assaulted Caeser for calling him out on it]]. He (understandably) doesn't take it very well at all.


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* DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale: For once, averted - [[spoiler: Tiberius']] rape of [[spoiler: Caesar}} is presented as brutal, humiliating and the victim full within his right to take his revenge. The fact that the scene [[ArtisticLicenseHistory makes no sense in historical context]][[note]]See above under General Tropes for details.[[/note]] leaves the impression that the writers included it specifically to say: See? This is what happens when a society tolerates sexual assault on the weak and dehumanized, and tries to raise boys into unfeeling, violent "soldiers". In such a society, not even the strongest manly men are safe.


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** [[ArtisticLicenseHistory In real history,]] Spartacus made the captured Romans fight mock gladiator battles against themselves, not against ex-slaves. But while this makes more sense as a revenge for his and the other gladiators' suffering at the whims of Roman society, the showrunners decided that it would be too boring to watch a bunch of unnamed mooks with no training for the showmanship aspect of gladiator fights reluctantly hack each other to death for a whole episode.


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* SexSlave: Kore, who is owned and sexually used by Crassus. He treats her comparatively well and claims to love her - but in all the years they've been 'lovers', he apparently never considered manumitting her and giving her the choice to stay as his concubine of her own free will. Since she'd be an unmarried freedwoman (as good as a prostitute in Roman eyes), not a citizen woman, such an arrangement would not even have been considered adultery. And in the end, Crassus [[spoiler: has Kore crucified]] simply to save face.


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* StockholmSyndrome: Kore cares so much for her owner Crassus and has such blind confidence in his feelings for her, that she even [[spoiler: goes back to him after successfully running away.]] Bad idea.
24th Aug '17 5:30:51 AM VioletVisions
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-->'''Ilithyia:''' Oh! Gaius. You give hot cause to flutter.

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-->'''Ilithyia:''' Oh! Gaius. You give hot heart cause to flutter.



** There's a memorable minor character example in the brothel raid, where a sadistic customer is urinating on a hooker, and she takes the opportunity of the violence of the raid to [[UnfriendlyFire stab him in the guts]].

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** There's a memorable minor character example in the brothel raid, where a sadistic customer is urinating on a hooker, [[SexSlave prostitute]], and she takes the opportunity of the violence of the raid to [[UnfriendlyFire stab him in the guts]].



** This was at least part of the job Nasir and Chadara had with their former owner. Presumably for quite some time, given how [[StockholmSyndrome attached Nasir was to his master]]. Now consider that Nasir is a teenager when he is finally freed, and that he's been a slave so long that he can barely still remember his family. {{Squick}}.
** The prostitute Gannicus makes friends with. Thankfully, she actually likes him and enjoys his "patronage", though she wouldn't have a choice about having sex with him if she didn't.

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** This was at least part of the job Nasir and Chadara had with their former owner. Presumably for quite some time, given how [[StockholmSyndrome attached Nasir was to his master]]. Now consider that Nasir is a teenager when he is finally freed, and that he's been a slave so long that he can barely still remember his family. {{Squick}}.
{{Squick}}.[[note]]In AncientRome, raping pre-pubescent slave boys was perfectly acceptable for a male citizen - in fact, that was the ideal of "gay sex" in pre-Christian Roman society; as opposed to the Greek "pederasty" system in which the younger partner was supposed to be free-born, respectfully treated and over 12 years of age, with the ideal "lust object" being a well-muscled, post-pubescent teenager (much like Nasir). It's the fact that Nasir's owner orders him to penetrate him that would have been considered scandalous and morally wrong, if the man's peers ever found out about it. A Roman male citizen was supposed to ''never, ever'' let his body "be used for the pleasure of others", meaning bottoming or providing oral sex (to men or women, it doesn't matter).[[/note]]
** The Marcia, the prostitute Gannicus makes friends with. Thankfully, she actually likes him and enjoys his "patronage", though she wouldn't have a choice about having sex with him if she didn't. Also, probably all the other nameless prostitutes seen in brothel scenes.
24th Aug '17 5:09:03 AM VioletVisions
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**



* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Varro chastises his wife for failing to fight off her rapist.



** Spartacus being prostituted by Batiatus is treated a little better, with Batiatus at least asking in advance and Spartacus claiming to be okay with it (not that he ''really'' could say "no" as a slave). And when it turns out to be [[BedTrick rape by fraud]] on top of forced prostitution, Spartacus does get the usual post-rape bathing scene, and he clearly has tears in his eyes when he first realizes whom he just served. But the whole rape scene is still filmed in a very attractive, titillating fashion, and no-one ever raises the question of how accepting of the situation Spartacus would be if the woman who bought him for the night had turned out to be anything other than young, beautiful and not (sexually) sadistic.

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** Spartacus being prostituted by Batiatus is treated handled a little better, with Batiatus at least asking in advance and Spartacus claiming to be okay with it (not that he ''really'' could say "no" as a slave). And when it turns out to be [[BedTrick rape by fraud]] on top of forced prostitution, Spartacus does get the usual post-rape bathing scene, and he clearly has tears in his eyes when he first realizes whom he just served. But the whole rape scene is still filmed in a very attractive, titillating fashion, and no-one ever raises the question of how accepting of the situation Spartacus would be if the woman who bought him for the night had turned out to be anything other than young, beautiful and not (sexually) sadistic.



* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Being set in ancient Roman times, this abounds. Of particular note:
** Roman slavery in general.
** Varro chastises his wife for failing to fight off her rapist.



* LaserGuidedKarma: [[spoiler: Lucretia sexually abused Crixus for years while pretending / having delusions that they were having an affair based on love. Now Ashur is treating her the same way.]]



** [[spoiler: Lucretia]] and Ashur. For both of them, given that she is the one arranging his downfall.



** Naevia was ''brutally'' used as such by a succession of new owners before ending up in the mines.
** This was at least part of the job Nasir and Chadara had with their former owner. Presumably for quite some time, given how [[StockholmSyndrome attached Nasir was to his master]]. Now consider that Nasir is a teenager when he is finally freed, and that he's been a slave so long that he can barely still remember his family. {{Squick}}.
** The prostitute Gannicus makes friends with. Thankfully, she actually likes him and enjoys his "patronage", though she wouldn't have a choice about having sex with him if she didn't.



* SpottingTheThread: While the rebels are hiding at a villa they've liberated, a Roman scouting party arrives and Spartacus sends the body slave, Nasir, to greet them. It seems to go well and the soldiers get ready to leave, until Nasir offers the scouts inside for refreshment, seemingly betraying them. After the rebels kill the Romans, Nasir explains that the squad leader noticed that he was not wearing his slave collar, and had he left, they would have returned with more men.

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* SpottingTheThread: While the rebels are hiding at a villa they've liberated, a Roman scouting party arrives and Spartacus sends the body former body/sex slave, Nasir, to greet them. It seems to go well and the soldiers get ready to leave, until Nasir offers the scouts inside for refreshment, seemingly betraying them. After the rebels kill the Romans, Nasir explains that the squad leader noticed that he was not wearing his slave collar, and had he left, they would have returned with more men.men.
* StockholmSyndrome: Nasir has been a relatively well-treated body slave (well, aside from the sexual abuse) since he was a small child, and he developed enough loyalty towards his owner that he [[spoiler: initially tries to kill Spartacus in revenge for the man's death.]] He gets over it quickly, though.



** Nasir progresses from body slave to pretty decent warrior.

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** Nasir progresses from body body/sex slave to pretty decent warrior.



* WaifFu: Admirably averted. The female characters who fight all look convincingly strong and hardy.

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* WaifFu: Admirably Somewhat averted. The main female ex-slave characters who fight all like Mira and Naevia are still pretty waifish, but some of the background fighters look convincingly strong more realistically buff, and hardy.new character Saxa is at least wiry, though otherwise still built like an underwear model.


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* YaoiGuys: Agron and Nasir (It's a slow burn over the course of the season.)
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