History Sandbox / RJReworks

%%Merger ideas: Luka and Alice (PornWithPlot), [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons The Simpsons Family]] (CouchGag and AnimatedSitcom), [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} The Planet Express Crew]] ({{Uncancelled}}), [[Franchise/TheFlash The Core Flash Family (sans Jay Garrick)]] (SuperSpeed), [[ComicBook/TheSandman1989 The Endless]] (AnthropomorphicPersonification or CastOfPersonifications), [[ComicBook/{{Lucifer}} The Presence and Samael]] (DivineInfernalFamily), [[Franchise/TheMatrix The Crew of the Nebuchadnezzar]] (VirtualRealityWarper), [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} The Ch]][[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 aos Gods]] (TheCorruption), [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch Lilo, Stitch, Nani, Jumba and Pleakley, the other experiments]] (TrueCompanions, InstantMassJustAddWater), [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure The Stone Ocean Protagonists]], [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion The Children]], [[Franchise/YuGiOh Team 5D]], [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Ra's and Talia al Ghul]], [[Literature/RiseOfTheGuardians The Guardians of Childhood]], [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire The Baratheon Brothers]], [[Series/DoctorWho The Paternoster Gang]], [[VideoGame/MegaManZX The Psuedoroids]], [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Brock and Misty]], [[VideoGame/SpyroYearOfTheDragon The Year Of The Dragon Allies]], [[WesternAnimation/AmericanDad The Smith Family]]

** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Heatmor and Durant]], Warring Gods Of AnimalJingoism''': restoration and expansion. These single-stage Pokemon are mortal enemies that are based off an ant-eater, and an ant. Heatmor is Fire type and Durant is Bug/Steel because of the obvious advantage anteaters have on ants, though Durant is fast and packing Ground type moves. If you run into hordes, one will even attack the other. Draft of old Durant here: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=87 Durant]]
** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Aegislash]], God of [[DefendCommand Defend Commands]]''': a restoration and retool. I am considering suggesting Aegislash for this trope. Why? Aegislash is a living, haunted sword. While many Pokemon have defend commands, its design and ability is tailor made for this trope. Aegislash's signature ability is Stance Change, where if it uses an offensive move it becomes an attack-oriented form and if it uses its signature move of Kings Shield it reverts to its shielded form. Kings Shield is a Protect variant that lowers the opponent's attack on contact. Old draft here: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=358 Aegislash]]

** '''[[Franchise/Ben10 Corrodium]]''': restoration of an idea made by worldofdraken. Corrodium is a notable phlebotinum from the Ben 10 franchise, mainly associated with aliens from the Anur system. It's this purple and potent energy source that acts as a mutagen to most non-Anur lifeforms, and is a plot device by Zs'skayr and his associates. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=4468 Original version here]]

* Rework and restore ideas (17/20)

** '''[[Franchise/Ben10 Corrodium]]''': restoration of an idea made by worldofdraken. Corrodium is a notable phlebotinum from the Ben 10 franchise, mainly associated with aliens from the Anur system. It's this purple and potent energy source that acts as a mutagen to most non-Anur lifeforms, and is a plot device by Zs'skayr and his associates. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=4468 Original version here]]

!!Reworks and Tune-ups(1/10)

[[folder:Silver (Pokemon)]]
'''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Silver]], God With an [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks Unknown Alias]]''' (???, Passerby Boy, Soul, Heart, [[LetsPlay/DeliciousCinnamon Chedr]], [[LetsPlay/{{Lucahjin}} My Butt]], [[WebVideo/TwitchPlaysPokemonVietnameseCrystal Baba]])
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* Votes: 3(Tropers/{{Bazzardreturns}}, Tropers/{{Excessive-Menace}}, Tropers/CrimsonShark)
* Date of ascension: 1 April (repost 29 March)
* Note: Rework
* Hall: Naming Convention (House of Naming and Epithets)
* Demigod
* Symbol: A silhouette of his hair
* Theme Music: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5quTVDGb1_0 A Rival Appears!]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKOG5UM202Y Battle! (Rival)]]
* Alignment: ChaoticNeutral (though softened)
* Portfolio: TheRival [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks With An Unknown Alias]], FieryRedhead, [[HateSink Starts As An Unlikable]] BadBoss, [[CharacterDevelopment But Matures Into]] A JerkWithAHeartOfGold, InferioritySuperiorityComplex, ArrogantKungFuGuy, [[FreudianExcuse A Lot Of His Issues Stem From]] [[DisappearedDad His Dad Giovanni]], HaughtyHmph, StockShonenRival
* Domains: Names, Attitude, Hair, Children, Trainers
* High Priest: [[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor Doopliss]]
* Party Pokémon: [[SchrodingersPlayerCharacter (Johto Starter Pokémon strong to the player's pick)]], Gengar, Crobat, Magneton, Sneasel, Alakazam
* Special relationship with: [[Pantheon/VillainousArchetypes Giovanni]] (his father)
* Interests: [[Pantheon/VillainousSuccessAndFailure Jessie, James and Meowth]]
* Interested in: [[Pantheon/GeneticEngineering Mewtwo]], [[Pantheon/OrganizedCrime Bucciarati's gang]], [[Pantheon/ValuesAndEthics Vergil]], [[Pantheon/{{Piracy}} Gol D. Roger]], [[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} Cassim]]
* Allies
** Trainers and Pokemon: [[Pantheon/HardwareAndSoftware The ascended Feraligatr]] and [[Pantheon/{{Ghosts}} Gengar]], [[Pantheon/JapaneseSpirits Weavile]], [[Pantheon/BossFightsAToM Blue Oak]], [[Pantheon/PridefulAttitude Gladion]]
** Other allies: [[Pantheon/{{Abilities}} Jun Manjoume]]
* On good terms with: [[Pantheon/{{Birds}} Ho-oh]], [[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Nelson Muntz, Pacifica Northwest]], [[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Flash Thompson]], [[Pantheon/OtherCriminals Aladdin]]
* On speaking terms with: [[Pantheon/TragedyAndDespair Portgas D.Ace]], [[Pantheon/PridefulArchetypes Hayley Smith-Fischer]]
* Rivals: [[Pantheon/ValuesAndEthics Paul]], [[Pantheon/BossFightsNToZ Red]], [[Pantheon/{{Advertising}} Ash Ketchum]], [[Pantheon/{{Celebration}} Calem and Serena]]
** FriendlyRivalry with: [[Pantheon/CharacterRoles N]]
* Enemies: [[Pantheon/OtherCriminals Pokemon Hunter J]], [[Pantheon/ValuesAndEthics Ghetsis]], [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Rusty]], [[Pantheon/FamilyAndRelatives Ozai]], [[Pantheon/{{Offsprings}} Shinji Matou]], [[Pantheon/{{Planning}} Light Yagami]], [[Pantheon/ComedyGenres Eric Cartman]], [[Pantheon/ArroganceAndHubris Infinite]]
* Opposes: [[Pantheon/{{Students}} Biff Tannen]], [[Pantheon/CausesOfSadness Goro Akechi]]
* A bit annoyed by: [[Pantheon/{{Offsprings}} Bowser Jr, Nina Cortex]], [[Pantheon/{{Officers}} Clancy Wiggum]]
* Pities: [[Pantheon/RegretAndShame Soichiro Yagami]]
* Uncertain on: [[Pantheon/FamilyDysfunctions Rock Howard]]
* Silver is the rival of Ethan and Lyra, protagonists of ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' and their remakes. He starts as a real jerk, who stole one of the starters at Elm Research Lab and is thuggish. He has a hatred for Team Rocket but with [[BloodKnight an obsession of becoming stronger]] and seeing Pokémon as tools he's not that different from them...[[HateSink in fact he's arguably more unlikable]]. Fortunately over time the player character beating him gives him an ego trip, and he begins to realize the value of his teammates. He eventually came to care for his Pokémon, but still holds the ambition of becoming the strongest trainer in the world and a prideful streak. So a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, basically.
* When Silver ascended into the Pantheon, he didn't really has his name publicly shown. It all appeared as ????, much as when he made his debut in the games. Some other gods then decided to try to name him with different names (even ????), some less appealing than some. He only got his name back when ironically ''[[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} The Mob]]'' tried to name him and ended up giving his normal name (their tried naming him something stupid, but accidentally exited out of the name input screen before putting anything in). Given what was going with his name, it dissuaded Light Yagami from trying to write his name down in the Death Note. That said, he's not interesting in getting rid of Silver as he has higher priorities for who to kill. Silver personally detests Kira for being a self-righteous mass murderer and the grief he has given his father Soichiro. Granted he's not on good terms with his own dad and isn't all that law-abiding, but he is sympathetic to Soichiro's situation.
* While his starter depends on Ethan/Lyra's starter, most adaptations choose the Totodile line. He is also heavily associated with Sneasel, and Gengar is another Pokemon with a sinister edge he uses on his team. Naturally, he was quite fond of finding the equivalent Pokemon species in the Trope Pantheon. He wasn't all that happy that Ethan/Lyra wasn't in the pantheon because he's come to find them as a WorthyOpponent, and he's strived to seek out rivals, first of which being Paul [[{{Expy}} because he has a lot of similarities to Silver]]; they are believers of harsh training methods that would gradually grow into a better person, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold even if they still have an edge]]. Ash noticed the similarities and finds the trash talk of "stop copying me" from the two kind of funny. Given Silver's father, Ash is also fascinated with the idea of facing off against him in a battle.
* It was eventually revealed that he was the estranged son of Giovanni, who he had a falling out when he left after Red defeated him. Unlike the callous and abusive Ghetsis [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Giovanni does care for Silver]], but he's definitely a flawed father and somewhat selfish in how he focuses on his ambitions. Despite their estrangement Giovanni is proud to see his son's growth as a trainer, and informed the Team Rocket trio while he understands they're interested in his kid, that's none of their business so don't pester him. Silver does admit that he doesn't have much room to criticize Team Rocket on stealing Pokémon when he himself did so before. As a son of a crime boss, Silver was curious about Bucciarati's gang since he sees more of [[NobleDemon his dad's admirable traits]] mixed with the genuine ability to back up their accomplishments. Giovanni mused that the two of them do share a desire to prove themselves and a troubled upbringing, and he's stated he would like to see Silver prove himself as a trainer. Otherwise Silver doesn't have much respect for organized crime.
* As the son of a crime boss and villainous team leader, he has an interest in others with a NotoriousParent. Him and Portgas don't hang persay but they do occasionally swap stories with one another. He's intrigued by his biological father Gol D Roger. His interactions with Aladdin are more warmer, musing on his own past as a troublemaker and one time thief, and sometimes they'll talk about their relationship with their dads. Silver doesn't respect those who refuse to get out of their villain parent's shadow and embrace the OverlordJr trope, like Bowser Jr and Nina Cortex, but he isn't all that bothered by them; it's more a disappointment towards their perceived lack of ambition. More seriously, he doesn't get along with Goro Akechi. His dad is at least Ghetsis-level bad but what Goro has done is too much for Silver.
* Because of how [[LukeIAmYourFather "Giovanni is Ash's dad"]] is a popular fan-theory, some like to speculate he and Ash are brothers. Of course it's entirely wild mass guessing and it's not something Silver sees as funny, due to his issues with his dad. After spending some time in the House of Pantheon/FamilyAndRelatives Silver has noted that there are still [[AbusiveParents far]] [[ArchnemesisDad more dysfunctional]] father-son dynamics than his and Giovanni, which is why he holds a lot of contempt for Ozai. The Firelord can ''charitably'' be called a narcissistic parent who sees his children as tools, and who's ambitions for the world in general is horrible. Silver is quick to mock how he was defeated, calling him a "loser lord". Silver also holds contempt for Ghetsis due to how awful a parent and trainer he is, musing at the contrast between him and his (adoptive) son N compared to Silver himself and Giovanni. He finds N to be an interesting guy and approves of his growth as a person. However he also wants to best him as a trainer, which was motivated by the fact N was able to catch and wield one of the main legendaries of his region.
* Silver may have been a pretty big jerk before his development, but even then he was never as loathsome as Shinji Matou. Asides from disgust [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil for what he did]] [[VillainousIncest to his adoptive sister]] he sees someone who has a number of daddy issues and an InferioritySuperiorityComplex, but rather than rise above it as he has he wallows in self-pity and refuses to improve himself. By contrast, he is good friends with Gladion and Jun Manjoume. "The Chazzter" also had a desire to prove himself due to family issues, and he came to value his companions over time. Gladion has his own issues with his parent and a haughty demeanor, but he's considerably more chill than Silver was. In addition, he has a level of respect for Vergil as a man and an arrogant, rude rival who's obsessed with becoming stronger. That said, he doesn't hold that grandiose an ambition, and muses that his criminal father might be more interested in Vergil than him.
* [[VideoGame/PokemonVietnameseCrystal Apparently hates trashy men]]. He thinks they are unpardonable and their strolling are an eyesore, and wants to beat all of them up. The ''[[BlindIdiotTranslation actual]]'' quote is that he hates the weak, and that he will wipe anyone who he considers weak, like those who gang up together just to look stronger. He's not fond of bullies like Biff Tannen, despite having been kind of a bully (or at least a huge {{Jerkass}}) in the past since he sees them [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex as trying to hide their own weakness by tearing others down]]. The psychopathic Infinite is someone he's sussed out at this kind of person and as much as he has issues with his dad, at least he wouldn't employ someone like Infinite. He also doesn't like Eric Cartman. Cartman loves to riff on him for supposedly being ginger and doesn't get how Ho-oh could look positively on him nowadays because "gingers have no soul", only for Silver to call him out by reminding him [[BoomerangBigot that his father was ginger]]. And [[{{Patricide}} what he did]] [[FamilialCannibalismSurprise to him]] was sickening.
* Yes, he's a thief. It doesn't change the fact that he's grown as a person and that the Pokemon he stole became a close friend, so few hold it against him. Chief Wiggum has tried in vain to get his arrested by pointing out that "just because Malloy was likable he still did the crime and should do the time", and has tried and failed to take Silver in. The Pokemon trainer scoffs at him, (correctly) thinking he's an idiot who his dad would take advantage of but otherwise finds his antics mildly amusing and he's at least a good dad. The House of Pantheon/LawAndJustice doesn't bother running checks on Silver anymore. And yeah, he used to be a bully and a thug, something Pacifica and Flash Thompson used to be. It's something they sometimes talk about together.
[[/folder]]

* Date of ascension: 1 April (repost 26 and 29 March)

* Votes: 1(Tropers/{{Bazzardreturns}})

* It was eventually revealed that he was the estranged son of Giovanni, who he had a falling out when he left after Red defeated him. Unlike the callous and abusive Ghetsis [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Giovanni does care for Silver]], but he's definitely a flawed father and somewhat selfish in how he focuses on his ambitions. Despite their estrangement Giovanni is proud to see his son's growth as a trainer, and informed the Team Rocket trio while he understands they're interested in his kid, that's none of their business so don't pester him. Silver does admit that he doesn't have much room to criticize Team Rocket on stealing Pokémon when he himself did so before. As a son of a crime boss, Silver was curious about Bucciarati's gang since he sees more of [[NobleDemon his dad's admirable traits]] mixed with the genuine ability to back up their accomplishments. Giovanna mused that the two of them do share a desire to prove themselves and a troubled upbringing, and he's stated he would like to see Silver prove himself as a trainer. Otherwise Silver doesn't have much respect for organized crime.

%%Feel it's been too long since I covered this rework. Since Chuggaa got canceled should we remove his nicknames? What rival and prideful characters would find themselves getting along, or not getting along with Silver

'''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Silver]], God With an [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks Unknown Alias]]''' (???, Passerby Boy, Soul, Heart, [[LetsPlay/DeliciousCinnamon Chedr]], [[LetsPlay/{{Lucahjin}} My Butt]], [[LetsPlay/{{Chuggaaconroy}} Eyan]], [[WebVideo/TwitchPlaysPokemonVietnameseCrystal Baba]])

** Other allies: [[Pantheon/{{Abilities}} Jun Manjoume]], [[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Flash Thompson]], [[Pantheon/BodySizes Eddy]], [[Pantheon/FamilialPerspective Shoto Todoroki]], [[Pantheon/{{Upbringing}} Josuke Higashikata]]
* On good terms with: [[Pantheon/{{Birds}} Ho-oh]], [[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Nelson Muntz, Pacifica Northwest]], [[Pantheon/OtherCriminals Aladdin]], [[Pantheon/PrideAndEgotism Vegeta]], [[Pantheon/PridefulAttitude Katsuki Bakugou]]

* (mention rival types and the prideful)
* (mention potential friends)

* Yes, he's a thief. It doesn't change the fact that he's grown as a person and that the Pokemon he stole became a close friend, so few hold it against him. Chief Wiggum has tried in vain to get his arrested by pointing out that "just because Malloy was likable he still did the crime and should do the time", and has tried and failed to take Silver in. The Pokemon trainer scoffs at him, (correctly) thinking he's an idiot who his dad would take advantage of but otherwise finds his antics mildly amusing and he's at least a good dad. The House of Pantheon/LawAndJustice doesn't bother running checks on Silver anymore.

* As the son of a crime boss and villainous team leader, he has an interest in others with a NotoriousParent. Him and Portgas don't hang persay but they do occasionally swap stories with one another. He's intrigued by his biological father Gol D Roger. His interactions with Aladdin are more warmer, musing on his own past as a troublemaker and one time thief, and sometimes they'll talk about their relationship with their dads. Silver doesn't respect those who refuse to get out of their villain parent's shadow and embrace the OverlordJr trope, like Bowser Jr and Nina Cortex, but this is more

* Party Pokémon: [[SchrodingersPlayerCharacter (Johto Starter Pokémon strong to the player's pick)]] Gengar, Crobat, Magneton, Sneasel, Alakazam

* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Hunters}} Pokemon Hunter J]], [[Pantheon/ValuesAndEthics Ghetsis]], [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Rusty]], [[Pantheon/FamilyAndRelatives Ozai]], [[Pantheon/{{Offsprings}} Shinji Matou]], [[Pantheon/{{Planning}} Light Yagami]], Eric Cartman, [[Pantheon/ArroganceAndHubris Infinite]]
* Opposes: Biff Tannen, [[Pantheon/CausesOfSadness Goro Akechi]]

* Unsure on (will decide later): The House of Pantheon/LawAndJustice

* When Silver ascended into the Pantheon, he didn't really has his name publicly shown. It all appeared as ????, much as when he made his debut in the games. Some other gods then decided to try to name him with different names (even ????), some less appealing than some. He only got his name back when ironically ''[[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} The Mob]]'' tried to name him and ended up giving his normal name (their tried naming him something stupid, but accidentally exited out of the name input screen before putting anything in).

* (mention other villain dads)

* Yes, he's a thief. It doesn't change the fact that he's grown as a person and that the Pokemon he stole became a close friend, so few hold it against him. Chief Wiggum has tried in vain to get his arrested by pointing out that "just because Malloy was likable he still did the crime and should do the time", and has tried and failed to take Silver in. The Pokemon trainer scoffs at him, (correctly) thinking he's an idiot who his dad would take advantage of but otherwise finds his antics mildly amusing and he's at least a good dad.

* On good terms with: [[Pantheon/{{Birds}} Ho-oh]], [[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Nelson Muntz, Pacifica Northwest]], [[Pantheon/OtherCriminals Aladdin]]
* On speaking terms with: [[Pantheon/TragedyAndDespair Portgas D.Ace]]

* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Hunters}} Pokemon Hunter J]], [[Pantheon/ValuesAndEthics Ghetsis]], [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Rusty]], [[Pantheon/FamilyAndRelatives Ozai]], [[Pantheon/{{Offsprings}} Shinji Matou]], [[Pantheon/{{Planning}} Light Yagami]], Eric Cartman, Infinite

* A bit annoyed by: [[Pantheon/{{Offsprings}} Bowser Jr, Nina Cortex]]

* It was eventually revealed that he was the estranged son of Giovanni, who he had a falling out when he left after Red defeated him. Unlike the callous and abusive Ghetsis [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Giovanni does care for Silver]], but he's definitely a flawed father and somewhat selfish in how he focuses on his ambitions. Despite their estrangement Giovanni is proud to see Silver's growth as a trainer. He's informed the Team Rocket trio that while he understands why they're interested in his kid, that's none of their business so don't bother him. Silver does admit that he doesn't have much room to criticize Team Rocket on stealing Pokémon when he himself did so before. As a son of a crime boss, Silver was curious about Bucciarati's gang since he sees more of [[NobleDemon his dad's admirable traits]] mixed with the genuine ability to back up their accomplishments. Giovanna mused that the two of them do share a desire to prove themselves and a troubled upbringing, and he's stated he would like to see Silver prove himself as a trainer. Otherwise Silver doesn't have much respect for organized crime.
* Because of how [[LukeIAmYourFather "Giovanni is Ash's dad"]] is a popular fan-theory, some like to speculate he and Ash are brothers. Of course it's entirely wild mass guessing and it's not something Silver sees as funny, due to his issues with his dad. After spending some time in the House of Pantheon/FamilyAndRelatives Silver has noted that there are still [[AbusiveParents far]] [[ArchnemesisDad more dysfunctional]] father-son dynamics than his and Giovanni, which is why he holds a lot of contempt for Ozai. The Firelord can ''charitably'' be called a narcissistic parent who sees his children as tools, and who's ambitions for the world in general is horrible. Silver is quick to mock how he was defeated, calling him a "loser lord". Silver also holds contempt for Ghetsis due to how awful a parent and trainer he is, musing at the contrast between him and his (adoptive) son N compared to Silver himself and Giovanni. He finds N to be an interesting guy and approves of his growth as a person. However he also wants to best him as a trainer, which was motivated by the fact N was able to catch and wield one of the main legendaries of his region

%%What rival and prideful characters would find themselves getting along, or not getting along with Silver

* Interested in: [[Pantheon/GeneticEngineering Mewtwo]], [[Pantheon/OrganizedCrime Bucciarati's gang]], [[Pantheon/ValuesAndEthics Vergil]]

** Other allies: [[Pantheon/{{Abilities}} Jun Manjoume]], [[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Flash Thompson]], [[Pantheon/BodySizes Eddy]]
* On good terms with: [[Pantheon/{{Birds}} Ho-oh]], [[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Nelson Muntz, Pacifica Northwest]]

* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Hunters}} Pokemon Hunter J]], [[Pantheon/ValuesAndEthics Ghetsis]], [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Rusty]], [[Pantheon/FamilyAndRelatives Ozai]], [[Pantheon/{{Offsprings}} Shinji Matou]], Eric Cartman, Infinite
* Opposes: Biff Tannen

* It was eventually revealed that he was the estranged son of Giovanni, who he had a falling out when he left after Red defeated him. Unlike the callous and abusive Ghetsis [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Giovanni does care for Silver]], but he definitely a flawed father and somewhat selfish in how he focuses on his ambitions. Despite their estrangement Giovanni is proud to see Silver's growth as a trainer. He's informed the Team Rocket trio that while he understands why they're interested in his kid, that's none of their business so don't bother him. As a son of a crime boss, Silver was curious about Bucciarati's gang since he sees more of [[NobleDemon his dad's admirable traits]] mixed with the genuine ability to back up their accomplishments. Giovanna mused that the two of them do share a desire to prove themselves and a troubled upbringing, and he's stated he would like to see Silver prove himself as a trainer. Otherwise Silver doesn't have much respect for organized crime.

* Interested in: [[Pantheon/OrganizedCrime Bucciarati's gang]], [[Pantheon/ValuesAndEthics Vergil]]

** Other allies: [[Pantheon/{{Abilities}} Jun Manjoume]]
* On good terms with: [[Pantheon/{{Birds}} Ho-oh]], [[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Nelson Muntz]]

* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Hunters}} Pokemon Hunter J]], [[Pantheon/ValuesAndEthics Ghetsis]], [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Rusty]], [[Pantheon/FamilyAndRelatives Ozai]], [[Pantheon/{{Offsprings}} Shinji Matou]]

* Because of how [[LukeIAmYourFather "Giovanni is Ash's dad"]] is a popular fan-theory, some like to speculate he and Ash are brothers. Of course it's entirely wild mass guessing and it's not something Silver sees as funny, due to his issues with his dad. After spending some time in the House of Pantheon/FamilyAndRelatives Silver has noted that there are still [[AbusiveParents far]] [[ArchnemesisDad more dysfunctional]] father-son dynamics than his and Giovanni, which is why he holds a lot of contempt for Ozai. The Firelord can ''charitably'' be called a narcissistic parent who sees his children as tools, and who's ambitions for the world in general is horrible. Silver is quick to mock how he was defeated, calling him a "loser lord". Silver also holds contempt for Ghetsis due to how awful a parent and trainer he is, musing at the contrast between him and his (adoptive) son N compared to Silver himself and Giovanni.

* [[VideoGame/PokemonVietnameseCrystal Apparently hates trashy men]]. He thinks they are unpardonable and their strolling are an eyesore, and wants to beat all of them up [[note]]The ''[[BlindIdiotTranslation actual]]'' quote is that he hates the weak, and that he will wipe anyone who he considers weak, like those who gang up together just to look stronger[[/note]].

* Rework and restore ideas (18/20)

** '''[[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime Fionna]] [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTimeFionnaAndCake and Cake]], Co-Goddesses Of [[AscendedFanFic Fanfictions Becoming Canon]]''': a rework. The Rule 63 Fionna and Cake is an interesting case where they're this in-universe and out. In real life they started as what if comics created by the show's character design from Rule 63 images on [=4Chan=]. In-universe, it started as a fanfiction by Ice King, however it was eventually revealed to be real in a sense; Prismo made their world and put it in Simon's head, so it underwent AdaptationalMundanity when he was restored to full human. At the end of the spin-off it becomes canonized as a proper reality%%Proposed 1/3

** '''[[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime Fionna]] [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTimeFionnaAndCake and Cake]], Co-Goddesses Of [[AscendedFanFic Fanfictions Becoming Canon]]''': a rework. The Rule 63 Fionna and Cake is an interesting case where they're this in-universe and out. In real life they started as what if comics created by the show's character design from Rule 63 images on [=4Chan=]. In-universe, it started as a fanfiction by Ice King, however it was eventually revealed to be real in a sense; Prismo made their world and put it in Simon's head, so it underwent AdaptationalMundanity when he was restored to full human. At the end of the spin-off it becomes canonized as a proper reality