History RuinedFOREVER / Theater

3rd May '15 9:04:42 AM Sapphirea2
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* Creator/CirqueDuSoleil has had a lot of this since 2007, but especially after ''Theatre/CrissAngelBelieve'' initially bombed with critics and audiences (though it's since had a {{Retool}} and continues to run) and ''[=ZAIA=]'' had trouble selling tickets in Macau. After two of their 2010 productions (''Theatre/BananaShpeel'' and ''Theatre/VivaElvis'') had bad press in previews -- the former wound up closing in New York two months sooner than planned, and the latter closed in 2012 (their first Las Vegas show to do so) -- the fandom and even media commentators began speculating the end for a once-wonderful company is nigh. Things didn't improve with the announcement of Music/MichaelJackson-themed shows, not only for being more JukeboxMusical variants but for coming closely on the heels of their subject's death (making it look like a cash-grab). In response to that uproar, the online fan newsletter ''Fascination'' had an excellent [[http://www.cirquefascination.com/?p=1925 column]] by its editor pointing out that Cirque fans have been making Ruined FOREVER claims as far back as '''1990''' and their fourth show, ''Theatre/NouvelleExperience'', as it was a more theatrical show than the tours that had preceded it. With the thinning of most of the disappointments from the herd, plus some well-received newer shows (''Theatre/{{Zarkana}}'', ''Amaluna'', even ''Theatre/MichaelJacksonONE''), matters have improved somewhat in TheNewTens.

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* Creator/CirqueDuSoleil has had a lot of this since 2007, but especially after ''Theatre/CrissAngelBelieve'' initially bombed with critics and audiences (though it's since had a {{Retool}} and continues to run) and ''[=ZAIA=]'' had trouble selling tickets in Macau. After two of their 2010 productions (''Theatre/BananaShpeel'' and ''Theatre/VivaElvis'') had bad press in previews -- the former wound up closing in New York two months sooner than planned, and the latter closed in 2012 (their first Las Vegas show to do so) -- the fandom and even media commentators began speculating the end for a once-wonderful company is nigh. Things didn't improve with the announcement of Music/MichaelJackson-themed shows, not only for being more JukeboxMusical variants but for coming closely on the heels of their subject's death (making it look like a cash-grab). In response to that uproar, the online fan newsletter ''Fascination'' had an excellent [[http://www.cirquefascination.com/?p=1925 column]] by its editor pointing out that Cirque fans have been making Ruined FOREVER claims as far back as '''1990''' and their fourth show, ''Theatre/NouvelleExperience'', as it was a more theatrical show than the tours that had preceded it. With the thinning of most of the disappointments from the herd, plus some well-received newer shows (''Theatre/{{Zarkana}}'', ''Amaluna'', even ''Theatre/MichaelJacksonONE''), matters have improved somewhat in TheNewTens. In general, any time a project is announced that isn't a traditional Cirque show -- launching an arena tour inspired by ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', co-producing the 2015 NBC live staging of ''Theatre/TheWiz'', etc. -- fans get testy.



* Pretty much anytime a major musical is made into a movie, there is some set of fans who declares the show RUINED FOREVER.

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* Pretty much anytime a major stage musical is made into a movie, there is some set of fans who declares the show RUINED FOREVER.
28th Aug '14 12:41:02 AM EarlOfSandvich
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* AndrewLloydWebber's sequel to ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies'', killed a lot of the fans' love for the original show, to the point that a Facebook group called [[http://www.facebook.com/luvshoulddie "Love Should Die"]] was created. He alienated fans even further by blaming the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years, accusing them of being unable to cope with change.

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* AndrewLloydWebber's sequel to ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies'', killed a lot of the fans' love for the original show, to the point that a Facebook group called [[http://www.facebook.com/luvshoulddie "Love Should Die"]] was created. He alienated fans even further by blaming the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years, accusing them of being unable to cope with change.
29th Sep '13 4:08:56 AM Sapphirea2
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* AndrewLloydWebber's sequel to ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies'', killed a lot of the fans' love for the original show, to the point that a Facebook group called [[http://www.facebook.com/luvshoulddie "Love Should Die"]] was created. He alienated fans even further by blaming the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years -- accusing them of being unable to cope with change. Problem is, "change" in this case involves CharacterDerailment and PanderingToTheBase of Phantom/Christine shippers, which actually does undercut the events of the first show, so fandom outrage was largely justified.

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* AndrewLloydWebber's sequel to ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies'', killed a lot of the fans' love for the original show, to the point that a Facebook group called [[http://www.facebook.com/luvshoulddie "Love Should Die"]] was created. He alienated fans even further by blaming the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years -- years, accusing them of being unable to cope with change. Problem is, "change" in this case involves CharacterDerailment and PanderingToTheBase of Phantom/Christine shippers, which actually does undercut the events of the first show, so fandom outrage was largely justified.
29th Sep '13 4:07:14 AM Sapphirea2
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* Creator/CirqueDuSoleil has had a lot of this since 2007, but especially after ''Theatre/CrissAngelBelieve'' initially bombed with critics and audiences (though it's since had a {{Retool}} and continues to run) and ''[=ZAIA=]'' had trouble selling tickets in Macau. After two of their 2010 productions (''Theatre/BananaShpeel'' and ''Theatre/VivaElvis'') had bad press in previews -- the former wound up closing in New York two months sooner than planned, and the latter closed in 2012 (their first Las Vegas show to do so) -- the fandom and even media commentators began speculating the end for a once-wonderful company is nigh. Things didn't improve with the announcement of Music/MichaelJackson-themed shows, not only for being more JukeboxMusical variants but for coming closely on the heels of their subject's death (making it look like a cash-grab). In response to that uproar, the online fan newsletter ''Fascination'' had an excellent [[http://www.cirquefascination.com/?p=1925 column]] by its editor pointing out that Cirque fans have been making Ruined FOREVER claims as far back as '''1990''' and their fourth show, ''Theatre/NouvelleExperience'', as it was a more theatrical show than the tours that had preceded it. With the thinning of most of the disappointments from the herd, plus some well-received newer shows that hew closer to the "traditional" Cirque approach (''Zarkana'', ''Amaluna'', etc.), matters have improved somewhat in TheNewTens.
* AndrewLloydWebber's sequel to ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies'', killed a lot of the fans' love for the original show, to the point that a Facebook group called [[http://www.facebook.com/luvshoulddie "Love Should Die"]] was created. He alienated fans even further by blaming the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years.

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* Creator/CirqueDuSoleil has had a lot of this since 2007, but especially after ''Theatre/CrissAngelBelieve'' initially bombed with critics and audiences (though it's since had a {{Retool}} and continues to run) and ''[=ZAIA=]'' had trouble selling tickets in Macau. After two of their 2010 productions (''Theatre/BananaShpeel'' and ''Theatre/VivaElvis'') had bad press in previews -- the former wound up closing in New York two months sooner than planned, and the latter closed in 2012 (their first Las Vegas show to do so) -- the fandom and even media commentators began speculating the end for a once-wonderful company is nigh. Things didn't improve with the announcement of Music/MichaelJackson-themed shows, not only for being more JukeboxMusical variants but for coming closely on the heels of their subject's death (making it look like a cash-grab). In response to that uproar, the online fan newsletter ''Fascination'' had an excellent [[http://www.cirquefascination.com/?p=1925 column]] by its editor pointing out that Cirque fans have been making Ruined FOREVER claims as far back as '''1990''' and their fourth show, ''Theatre/NouvelleExperience'', as it was a more theatrical show than the tours that had preceded it. With the thinning of most of the disappointments from the herd, plus some well-received newer shows that hew closer to the "traditional" Cirque approach (''Zarkana'', (''Theatre/{{Zarkana}}'', ''Amaluna'', etc.), even ''Theatre/MichaelJacksonONE''), matters have improved somewhat in TheNewTens.
* AndrewLloydWebber's sequel to ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies'', killed a lot of the fans' love for the original show, to the point that a Facebook group called [[http://www.facebook.com/luvshoulddie "Love Should Die"]] was created. He alienated fans even further by blaming the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years.years -- accusing them of being unable to cope with change. Problem is, "change" in this case involves CharacterDerailment and PanderingToTheBase of Phantom/Christine shippers, which actually does undercut the events of the first show, so fandom outrage was largely justified.



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21st May '13 9:29:42 AM Sapphirea2
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* CirqueDuSoleil has had a lot of this since 2007, but especially after ''Criss Angel Believe'' initially bombed with critics and audiences (though it's since had a {{Retool}} and continues to run) and ''[=ZAIA=]'' had trouble selling tickets in Macau. After two of their 2010 productions (''Banana Shpeel'' and ''Viva Elvis'') had bad press in previews -- the former wound up closing in New York two months sooner than planned, and the latter closed in 2012 (their first Las Vegas show to do so) -- the fandom and even media commentators began speculating the end for a once-wonderful company is nigh. Things didn't improve with the announcement of MichaelJackson-themed shows, not only for being more JukeboxMusical variants but for coming closely on the heels of their subject's death (making it look like a cash-grab). In response to that uproar, the online fan newsletter ''Fascination'' had an excellent [[http://www.cirquefascination.com/?p=1925 column]] by its editor pointing out that Cirque fans have been making Ruined FOREVER claims as far back as '''1990''' and their fourth show, ''Nouvelle Experience'', as it was a more theatrical show than the tours that had preceded it. With the thinning of most of the disappointments from the herd, plus some well-received newer shows that hew closer to the "traditional" Cirque approach (''Zarkana'', ''Amaluna'', etc.), matters have improved in TheNewTens.
* AndrewLloydWebber's sequel to ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''LoveNeverDies'', killed a lot of the fans' love for the original show. He alienated them even further by blaming the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years.
** Hell, there's even a Facebook group called [[http://www.facebook.com/luvshoulddie "Love Should Die."]]

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* CirqueDuSoleil Creator/CirqueDuSoleil has had a lot of this since 2007, but especially after ''Criss Angel Believe'' ''Theatre/CrissAngelBelieve'' initially bombed with critics and audiences (though it's since had a {{Retool}} and continues to run) and ''[=ZAIA=]'' had trouble selling tickets in Macau. After two of their 2010 productions (''Banana Shpeel'' (''Theatre/BananaShpeel'' and ''Viva Elvis'') ''Theatre/VivaElvis'') had bad press in previews -- the former wound up closing in New York two months sooner than planned, and the latter closed in 2012 (their first Las Vegas show to do so) -- the fandom and even media commentators began speculating the end for a once-wonderful company is nigh. Things didn't improve with the announcement of MichaelJackson-themed Music/MichaelJackson-themed shows, not only for being more JukeboxMusical variants but for coming closely on the heels of their subject's death (making it look like a cash-grab). In response to that uproar, the online fan newsletter ''Fascination'' had an excellent [[http://www.cirquefascination.com/?p=1925 column]] by its editor pointing out that Cirque fans have been making Ruined FOREVER claims as far back as '''1990''' and their fourth show, ''Nouvelle Experience'', ''Theatre/NouvelleExperience'', as it was a more theatrical show than the tours that had preceded it. With the thinning of most of the disappointments from the herd, plus some well-received newer shows that hew closer to the "traditional" Cirque approach (''Zarkana'', ''Amaluna'', etc.), matters have improved somewhat in TheNewTens.
* AndrewLloydWebber's sequel to ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''LoveNeverDies'', ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies'', killed a lot of the fans' love for the original show. He alienated them even further by blaming show, to the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years.
** Hell, there's even
point that a Facebook group called [[http://www.facebook.com/luvshoulddie "Love Should Die."]]Die"]] was created. He alienated fans even further by blaming the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years.
19th Jan '13 10:59:10 AM PaulA
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* The (well-substantiated) rumour that TaylorSwift had been cast as Eponine in the upcoming film version of ''[[Theatre/LesMiserables Les Miserables]]'' provoked an unanimous outcry from the fanbase. Then the [[MagnificentBastard incredibly sneaky]] Cameron Mackintosh announced that the role would instead be played by West End and 25th Anniversary Concert veteran Samantha Barks, and this trope was summarily turned upside down and shaken with prejudice as said fanbase - including names like Lea Salonga, Frances Ruffelle, and Rebecca Caine - dropped to their knees with an audible thump and thanked their respective deities.

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* The (well-substantiated) rumour that TaylorSwift had been cast as Eponine in the upcoming film version of ''[[Theatre/LesMiserables Les Miserables]]'' ''Film/LesMiserables2012'' provoked an unanimous outcry from the ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' fanbase. Then the [[MagnificentBastard incredibly sneaky]] Cameron Mackintosh announced that the role would instead be played by West End and 25th Anniversary Concert veteran Samantha Barks, and this trope was summarily turned upside down and shaken with prejudice as said fanbase - including names like Lea Salonga, Frances Ruffelle, and Rebecca Caine - dropped to their knees with an audible thump and thanked their respective deities.
30th Nov '12 8:48:57 PM mlsmithca
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* CirqueDuSoleil has had a lot of this since 2007, but especially after ''Criss Angel Believe'' initially bombed with critics and audiences (though it's since had a {{Retool}} and continues to run) and ''[=ZAIA=]'' had trouble selling tickets in Macau. After two of their 2010 productions (''Banana Shpeel'' and ''Viva Elvis'') had bad press in previews -- the former wound up closing in New York two months sooner than planned, and the latter closed in 2012 (their first Las Vegas show to do so) -- the fandom and even media commentators began speculating the end for a once-wonderful company is nigh. ItGotWorse with the announcement of MichaelJackson-themed shows, not only for being more JukeboxMusical variants but for coming closely on the heels of their subject's death (making it look like a cash-grab). In response to that uproar, the online fan newsletter ''Fascination'' had an excellent [[http://www.cirquefascination.com/?p=1925 column]] by its editor pointing out that Cirque fans have been making Ruined FOREVER claims as far back as '''1990''' and their fourth show, ''Nouvelle Experience'', as it was a more theatrical show than the tours that had preceded it. With the thinning of most of the disappointments from the herd, plus some well-received newer shows that hew closer to the "traditional" Cirque approach (''Zarkana'', ''Amaluna'', etc.), matters have improved in TheNewTens.
* {{Andrew Lloyd Webber}}'s sequel to ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''LoveNeverDies'', killed a lot of the fans' love for the original show. He alienated them even further by blaming the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years.

to:

* CirqueDuSoleil has had a lot of this since 2007, but especially after ''Criss Angel Believe'' initially bombed with critics and audiences (though it's since had a {{Retool}} and continues to run) and ''[=ZAIA=]'' had trouble selling tickets in Macau. After two of their 2010 productions (''Banana Shpeel'' and ''Viva Elvis'') had bad press in previews -- the former wound up closing in New York two months sooner than planned, and the latter closed in 2012 (their first Las Vegas show to do so) -- the fandom and even media commentators began speculating the end for a once-wonderful company is nigh. ItGotWorse Things didn't improve with the announcement of MichaelJackson-themed shows, not only for being more JukeboxMusical variants but for coming closely on the heels of their subject's death (making it look like a cash-grab). In response to that uproar, the online fan newsletter ''Fascination'' had an excellent [[http://www.cirquefascination.com/?p=1925 column]] by its editor pointing out that Cirque fans have been making Ruined FOREVER claims as far back as '''1990''' and their fourth show, ''Nouvelle Experience'', as it was a more theatrical show than the tours that had preceded it. With the thinning of most of the disappointments from the herd, plus some well-received newer shows that hew closer to the "traditional" Cirque approach (''Zarkana'', ''Amaluna'', etc.), matters have improved in TheNewTens.
* {{Andrew Lloyd Webber}}'s AndrewLloydWebber's sequel to ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''LoveNeverDies'', killed a lot of the fans' love for the original show. He alienated them even further by blaming the financial and critical failure of it ''entirely'' on the people who've been buying tickets to ''Phantom'' for twenty years.
26th Nov '12 3:05:04 PM RoseAndHeather
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* The (well-substantiated) rumour that TaylorSwift had been cast as Eponine in the upcoming film version of ''[[Theatre/LesMiserables Les Miserables]]'' provoked an unanimous outcry from the fanbase. Then the [[MagnificentBastard incredibly sneaky]] Cameron Mackintosh announced that the role would instead be played by West End and 25th Anniversary Concert veteran Samantha Barks, and this trope was summarily turned upside down and shaken with prejudice as said fanbase - including names like Lea Salonga, Frances Ruffelle, and Rebecca Caine - erupted in cheers.

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* The (well-substantiated) rumour that TaylorSwift had been cast as Eponine in the upcoming film version of ''[[Theatre/LesMiserables Les Miserables]]'' provoked an unanimous outcry from the fanbase. Then the [[MagnificentBastard incredibly sneaky]] Cameron Mackintosh announced that the role would instead be played by West End and 25th Anniversary Concert veteran Samantha Barks, and this trope was summarily turned upside down and shaken with prejudice as said fanbase - including names like Lea Salonga, Frances Ruffelle, and Rebecca Caine - erupted in cheers.
dropped to their knees with an audible thump and thanked their respective deities.
26th Nov '12 3:04:32 PM RoseAndHeather
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* The (well-substantiated) rumour that TaylorSwift had been cast as Eponine in the upcoming film version of ''[[Theatre/LesMiserables Les Miserables]]'' provoked an unanimous outcry from the fanbase. Then the [[MagnificentBastard incredibly sneaky]] Cameron Mackintosh announced that the role would instead be played by West End and 25th Anniversary Concert veteran Samantha Barks, and this trope was summarily turned upside down and shaken with prejudice as said fanbase - including names like Lea Salonga, Frances Ruffelle, and Rebecca Caine.

to:

* The (well-substantiated) rumour that TaylorSwift had been cast as Eponine in the upcoming film version of ''[[Theatre/LesMiserables Les Miserables]]'' provoked an unanimous outcry from the fanbase. Then the [[MagnificentBastard incredibly sneaky]] Cameron Mackintosh announced that the role would instead be played by West End and 25th Anniversary Concert veteran Samantha Barks, and this trope was summarily turned upside down and shaken with prejudice as said fanbase - including names like Lea Salonga, Frances Ruffelle, and Rebecca Caine.
Caine - erupted in cheers.
21st Sep '12 1:41:07 PM Sapphirea
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* CirqueDuSoleil has had a lot of this since 2007, but especially after ''Criss Angel Believe'' initially bombed with critics and audiences (though it's since had a {{Retool}} and continues to run) and ''[=ZAIA=]'' had trouble selling tickets in Macau. After two of their 2010 productions (''Banana Shpeel'' and ''Viva Elvis'') had bad press in previews -- the former wound up closing in New York two months sooner than planned, and the latter closed in 2012 (their first Las Vegas show to do so) -- the fandom and even media commentators began speculating the end for a once-wonderful company is nigh. ItGotWorse with the announcement of MichaelJackson-themed shows, not only for being more JukeboxMusical variants but for coming closely on the heels of their subject's death (making it look like a cash-grab). In response to that uproar, the online fan newsletter ''Fascination'' had an excellent [[http://www.cirquefascination.com/?p=1925 column]] by its editor pointing out that Cirque fans have been making Ruined FOREVER claims as far back as '''1990''' and their fourth show, ''Nouvelle Experience'', as it was a more theatrical show than the tours that had preceded it. With the thinning of most of the disappointments from the herd, plus some well-received newer shows that hew closer to the "traditional" Cirque approach (''Zarkana'', ''Amaluna'', etc.), matters have improved since then.

to:

* CirqueDuSoleil has had a lot of this since 2007, but especially after ''Criss Angel Believe'' initially bombed with critics and audiences (though it's since had a {{Retool}} and continues to run) and ''[=ZAIA=]'' had trouble selling tickets in Macau. After two of their 2010 productions (''Banana Shpeel'' and ''Viva Elvis'') had bad press in previews -- the former wound up closing in New York two months sooner than planned, and the latter closed in 2012 (their first Las Vegas show to do so) -- the fandom and even media commentators began speculating the end for a once-wonderful company is nigh. ItGotWorse with the announcement of MichaelJackson-themed shows, not only for being more JukeboxMusical variants but for coming closely on the heels of their subject's death (making it look like a cash-grab). In response to that uproar, the online fan newsletter ''Fascination'' had an excellent [[http://www.cirquefascination.com/?p=1925 column]] by its editor pointing out that Cirque fans have been making Ruined FOREVER claims as far back as '''1990''' and their fourth show, ''Nouvelle Experience'', as it was a more theatrical show than the tours that had preceded it. With the thinning of most of the disappointments from the herd, plus some well-received newer shows that hew closer to the "traditional" Cirque approach (''Zarkana'', ''Amaluna'', etc.), matters have improved since then.in TheNewTens.
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