History RonTheDeathEater / AxisPowersHetalia

7th May '16 11:40:44 AM Wyldchyld
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* '''France:''' Yes, France is a LovableSexManiac whose treatment of the nation-tans often skirts BlackComedyRape. Yes, he can be shallow and whiny and often sucks at fighting. Yup, he can be quite the ManipulativeBastard if he wants. And yeah, he and England don't get along. However, that does NOT give fandom a pass to flanderise France into an absolute moron who only thinks with his dick, a heartless rapist who lacks any character depth and must be shot to death so he won't tie up and brutally rape the whole cast (despite how France actually ''denies'' being a rapist in canon), or a slutty SmugSnake who toys with a teen!America's feelings and insecurities (and maybe, even his body) during UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution purely to spit on and laugh in the face of a {{Purity Stu}}fied England who is '''never ever''' to blame for his own actions or decisions.

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* '''France:''' Yes, France is a LovableSexManiac whose treatment of the nation-tans often skirts BlackComedyRape. Yes, he can be shallow and whiny and often sucks at fighting. Yup, he can be quite the ManipulativeBastard if he wants. And yeah, he and England don't get along. However, that does NOT give fandom a pass to flanderise France into an absolute moron who only thinks with his dick, a heartless rapist who lacks any character depth and must be shot to death so he won't tie up and brutally rape the whole cast (despite how France actually ''denies'' being a rapist in canon), or a slutty SmugSnake who toys with a teen!America's feelings and insecurities (and maybe, even his body) during UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution purely to spit on and laugh in the face of a {{Purity Stu}}fied England who is '''never ever''' to blame for his own actions or decisions.
7th May '16 11:33:16 AM Wyldchyld
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* '''America:''' In canon, he's a [[BoisterousBruiser boisterous]] and [[IdiotHero dense]] [[TheDitz ditz]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold but ultimately a good-hearted]] LoveFreak who can be a jerk to Canada or England but not ''all the time.'' When rabid Canada fans or militant England/someone-other-than-him shippers get a hold of him, however, he either becomes a JerkJock and a BigBrotherBully who abuses and victimizes [[SympatheticSue poor, neglected, widdle Mattie-kins]] or a complete [[GlobalIgnorance moron]] and [[{{Jerkass}} asshole]] who can't accomplish anything with England other than breaking his heart ''again'', or throws away all the proofs of affection that they've given each other in order to deliberately mess with him (double points if they make England a PuritySue LoveMartyr as well).

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* '''America:''' In canon, he's a [[BoisterousBruiser boisterous]] and [[IdiotHero dense]] [[TheDitz ditz]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold but ultimately a good-hearted]] LoveFreak who can be a jerk to Canada or England but not ''all the time.'' When rabid Canada fans or militant England/someone-other-than-him shippers get a hold of him, however, he either becomes a JerkJock and a BigBrotherBully who abuses and victimizes [[SympatheticSue poor, neglected, widdle Mattie-kins]] Mattie-kins or a complete [[GlobalIgnorance moron]] and [[{{Jerkass}} asshole]] who can't accomplish anything with England other than breaking his heart ''again'', or throws away all the proofs of affection that they've given each other in order to deliberately mess with him (double points if they make England a PuritySue LoveMartyr as well).him.



** Or his [[AmericansHateTingle Western]] [[{{Hatedom}} anti-fans]] from taking ''any'' of his traits, positive or negative, and blowing them way out of proportion to "prove" what a "horrible" character he is; his JapanesePoliteness will be taken as proof that he's an ExtremeDoormat, his occasional passive-aggressiveness as proof that he's a [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] [[TheSociopath sociopath]], his slight ShipTease with other characters as proof that he's a MarySue harem lead who has half of the cast fawning over him (not to mention how attacks on his character [[SarcasmMode coincidentally]] [[DieForOurShip peaked]] when episodes of him [[TriangRelations with Greece and Turkey]] aired...), etc.

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** Or his [[AmericansHateTingle Western]] [[{{Hatedom}} anti-fans]] from taking ''any'' of his traits, positive or negative, and blowing them way out of proportion to "prove" what a "horrible" character he is; his JapanesePoliteness will be taken as proof that he's an ExtremeDoormat, his occasional passive-aggressiveness as proof that he's a [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] [[TheSociopath sociopath]], his slight ShipTease with other characters as proof that he's a MarySue harem lead who has half of the cast fawning over him (not to mention how attacks on his character [[SarcasmMode coincidentally]] [[DieForOurShip peaked]] when episodes of him [[TriangRelations with Greece and Turkey]] aired...), etc.



* '''Canada''': Oh yes, believe it or not, even the [[ShrinkingViolet sweet]] [[DistressedDude unassertive]] NiceGuy is not immune from this treatment. As mentioned above, many of Canada's rabid fangirls have a terrible habit of putting his brother America down in order to glorify him into a [[SympatheticSue Sympathetic Stu]]. This phenomenon has reached a point where it's actually costing Canada popularity points with annoyed circles in the Hetalia fandom. In particular, a good number of America fangirls who are sick of seeing America colored up as a JerkJock to make Canada look like a saint have issued their own retaliation. Usually, they'll exaggerate Canada's BewareTheNiceOnes moments (such as that one time when he seriously chewed America out with a three hour long TheReasonYouSuckSpeech) and turn him into a full fledged emotionally and verbally abusive BitchInSheepsClothing, or in some cases outright AxCrazy (mostly with a hockey stick, but at least one incident involved a chainsaw). While Canada does indeed resent his brother at times, he is shown to still care for him to some extent and their relationship is more or less normal between brothers (even if it is a little vitriolic, it's mostly played for laughs anyway).

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* '''Canada''': Oh yes, believe it or not, even the [[ShrinkingViolet sweet]] [[DistressedDude unassertive]] NiceGuy is not immune from this treatment. As mentioned above, many of Canada's rabid fangirls have a terrible habit of putting his brother America down in order to glorify him into a [[SympatheticSue Sympathetic Stu]].him. This phenomenon has reached a point where it's actually costing Canada popularity points with annoyed circles in the Hetalia fandom. In particular, a good number of America fangirls who are sick of seeing America colored up as a JerkJock to make Canada look like a saint have issued their own retaliation. Usually, they'll exaggerate Canada's BewareTheNiceOnes moments (such as that one time when he seriously chewed America out with a three hour long TheReasonYouSuckSpeech) and turn him into a full fledged emotionally and verbally abusive BitchInSheepsClothing, or in some cases outright AxCrazy (mostly with a hockey stick, but at least one incident involved a chainsaw). While Canada does indeed resent his brother at times, he is shown to still care for him to some extent and their relationship is more or less normal between brothers (even if it is a little vitriolic, it's mostly played for laughs anyway).



* The doujinshi circle Hakka Pink is... a touchy subject in some parts of the USUK fandom due to their extremely unflattering portrayal of France. Yes, historically France ''did'' meddle in UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution, but the ''Independence Sky'' series turn that "role" UpToEleven via making France pretty much into America's slutty and psychotic EvilMentor, ostensibly to make a PurityStu-fied England suffer.

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* The doujinshi circle Hakka Pink is... a touchy subject in some parts of the USUK fandom due to their extremely unflattering portrayal of France. Yes, historically France ''did'' meddle in UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution, but the ''Independence Sky'' series turn that "role" UpToEleven via making France pretty much into America's slutty and psychotic EvilMentor, ostensibly to make a PurityStu-fied England suffer.



** Prussia. HotBlooded ButtMonkey (canon) --> CardCarryingVillain who rapes female nations for either his own benefit or just for the lulz and tortures PossessionSue!Austria endlessly (AHEW verse)
* The famous and popular USUK doujinshii ''To the New World with Love'' subjects America to this treatment. Here he is portrayed as [[ChildrenAreInnocent a once innocent child nation]] who [[TookALevelInJerkass grows into]] [[DrunkWithPower a power-hungry]] [[{{Jerkass}} bastard]] who causes misery to the whole world as he expands his influence, opposite an England who's ''yet again'' made into a PurityStu who [[BreakTheCutie willingly subjects himself to horrible mental/emotional pain to "stop" him]] [[spoiler: including a more-than-a-century-long ThanatosGambit]]. We as readers are supposed to believe that America is an horrible asshole without any redeeming qualities [[LoveRedeems and who can only be redeemed through England's "pure and selfless" love]], and that [[PurityStu England]] is [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality flawlessly right]] instead of a mentally/emotionally unbalanced LoveMartyr.

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** Prussia. HotBlooded ButtMonkey (canon) --> CardCarryingVillain who rapes female nations for either his own benefit or just for the lulz and tortures PossessionSue!Austria Austria endlessly (AHEW verse)
* The famous and popular USUK doujinshii ''To the New World with Love'' subjects America to this treatment. Here he is portrayed as [[ChildrenAreInnocent a once innocent child nation]] who [[TookALevelInJerkass grows into]] [[DrunkWithPower a power-hungry]] [[{{Jerkass}} bastard]] who causes misery to the whole world as he expands his influence, opposite an England who's ''yet again'' made into a PurityStu who [[BreakTheCutie willingly subjects himself to horrible mental/emotional pain to "stop" him]] [[spoiler: including a more-than-a-century-long ThanatosGambit]]. We as readers are supposed to believe that America is an horrible asshole without any redeeming qualities [[LoveRedeems and who can only be redeemed through England's "pure and selfless" love]], and that [[PurityStu England]] England is [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality flawlessly right]] instead of a mentally/emotionally unbalanced LoveMartyr.
8th Mar '16 12:50:32 PM Josef5678
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* '''Turkey:''' Yes, he's a BoisterousBruiser who once wanted to [[TakeOverTheWorld conquer Europe]] and is no friend of Hungary or Greece, but his frequent portrayal in fanworks shipping him with one of these two nations (''especially'' the latter one) as a power/control-hungry BastardBoyfriend who doesn't care one iota about the other's feelings aside from [[BreakTheCutie using]] [[ManipulativeBastard any]] [[DomesticAbuser means]] [[BlackComedyRape possible]] to make them acknowledge his dominance over either Greece or Hungary is definitely taking it too far. Even if his personality isn't the mellowest one around, [[PetTheDog his canon protectiveness of Japan]] should at the very least imply a JerkWithAHeartOfGold instead of a full-blown {{Jerkass}}. And then there's his sympathetic portrayal in the HetaliaBloodbath2010 and his InterGenerationalFriendship with Iceland.

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* '''Turkey:''' Yes, he's a BoisterousBruiser who once wanted to [[TakeOverTheWorld conquer Europe]] and is no friend of Hungary or Greece, but his frequent portrayal in fanworks shipping him with one of these two nations (''especially'' the latter one) as a power/control-hungry BastardBoyfriend who doesn't care one iota about the other's feelings aside from [[BreakTheCutie using]] [[ManipulativeBastard any]] [[DomesticAbuser [[DomesticAbuse means]] [[BlackComedyRape possible]] to make them acknowledge his dominance over either Greece or Hungary is definitely taking it too far. Even if his personality isn't the mellowest one around, [[PetTheDog his canon protectiveness of Japan]] should at the very least imply a JerkWithAHeartOfGold instead of a full-blown {{Jerkass}}. And then there's his sympathetic portrayal in the HetaliaBloodbath2010 and his InterGenerationalFriendship with Iceland.
20th Nov '15 10:56:17 AM chelonianmobile
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* FridgeLogic tends to ensue with rapefics in Hetaliaverse when one wonders exactly how good an idea it would be to do something like that to someone who a) will live centures and is (going by the regular UnexplainedRecovery and/or GoodThingYouCanHeal scenes in canon) nearly impossible to kill, b) [[AndIMustScream knows you are the above things as well]], c) will have to work with you on a regular basis, and d) historical precedent shows won't be under your control forever.

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* FridgeLogic tends to ensue with rapefics in Hetaliaverse when one wonders exactly how good an idea it would be to do something like that to someone who a) will live centures and is (going by the regular UnexplainedRecovery and/or GoodThingYouCanHeal scenes in canon) nearly impossible to kill, b) [[AndIMustScream knows you are the above things as well]], c) will have to work with you on a regular basis, and d) historical precedent shows won't be under your control forever. In cases of America being the victim, one also has to wonder ''how'', since generally no explanation is given as to how a comparatively normal person manages to overpower someone who could swing adult buffalo around his head as an infant. China may fall under that heading too as he has been shown to be able to headbutt through a wall. As for Japan as the attacker, one may end up wondering why he'd go to so much effort when he thought merely being hugged was bad enough to ruin him for marriage.
19th Nov '15 11:12:22 AM chelonianmobile
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* The Russia/America fic "The Chosen End" is also pretty well known for subjecting England, of all nations, to this, all to favor Russia and America getting together. It's not helped by how the author wrote a fic where England is a crazy {{Yandere}} who tortures a [[WimpifiCation wimpified, helpless]] America and sends him crying to [[DracoInLeatherPants Russia]].

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* The Russia/America fic "The Chosen End" is also pretty well known for subjecting England, of all nations, to this, all to favor Russia and America getting together. It's not helped by how the author wrote a fic where England is a crazy {{Yandere}} who tortures a [[WimpifiCation wimpified, helpless]] America and sends him crying to [[DracoInLeatherPants Russia]].Russia]].
* FridgeLogic tends to ensue with rapefics in Hetaliaverse when one wonders exactly how good an idea it would be to do something like that to someone who a) will live centures and is (going by the regular UnexplainedRecovery and/or GoodThingYouCanHeal scenes in canon) nearly impossible to kill, b) [[AndIMustScream knows you are the above things as well]], c) will have to work with you on a regular basis, and d) historical precedent shows won't be under your control forever.
11th Jun '15 5:19:11 AM CJCroen1393
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** While not always used to demonize him, the fandom also has a tendency to give America traits/flaws that don't make any sense whatsoever. For instance, HighSchoolAU {{Slashfic}}s sometimes depict him as an ArmoredClosetGay JerkJock who can't stand public affection with other guys. Compare that with canon!America, who unhesitatingly leaped to [[TheGlomp glomp]] England for offering him ice cream and once matter-of-factly suggested that he and Japan ''[[HoYay take baths together]]'' (as in, get in close physical contact with each other ''while completely naked'') to save money on water bills.

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** While not always used to demonize him, the fandom also has a tendency to give America traits/flaws that don't make any sense whatsoever. For instance, HighSchoolAU {{Slashfic}}s sometimes depict him as an ArmoredClosetGay JerkJock who can't stand public affection with other guys. Compare that with canon!America, who unhesitatingly leaped to [[TheGlomp glomp]] England for offering him ice cream and once matter-of-factly nonchalantly suggested that he and Japan ''[[HoYay take baths together]]'' (as in, get in close physical contact with each other ''while completely naked'') to save money on water bills.
7th Jun '15 9:35:24 PM CJCroen1393
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** While not always used to demonize him, the fandom also has a tendency to give America traits/flaws that don't make any sense whatsoever. For instance, HighSchoolAU {{Slashfic}}s sometimes depict him as an ArmoredClosetGay JerkJock who can't stand public affection with other guys. Compare that with canon!America, who unhesitatingly leaped to [[TheGlomp glomp]] England for offering him ice cream and once matter-of-factly suggested that he and Japan ''[[HoYay take baths together]]'' (as in, get in close physical contact with each other ''while completely naked'') to save money on water bills.
28th Apr '15 10:10:27 AM nombretomado
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* '''England:''' In canon, he's a snarky {{Tsundere}} who has had his [[TheBritishEmpire days of pillaging and plundering as a pirate]] and frequently gets into fights with America or France, but is more bark than bite and clearly has a softer side (he's not called a Tsun''dere'' for nothing, after all), is more VitriolicBestBuds than outright enemies with America and France, and [[LoveHurts suffered]] (and probably [[TheWoobie still is suffering]]) from heartbreak due to the one he cared for the most [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution leaving him]]. In fanworks, one side of his Tsundere personality is all too often exaggerated at the expense of the other - and when said exaggerated side is the 'tsun', he becomes a ManipulativeBastard who only cares about himself, his empire, and/or [[{{Yandere}} forcibly]] [[IfICantHaveYou possessing]] his object of desire. Becomes especially bad if Russia is made into the DracoInLeatherPants opposite of him, or America is woobiefied into an innocent and helpless victim.

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* '''England:''' In canon, he's a snarky {{Tsundere}} who has had his [[TheBritishEmpire [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire days of pillaging and plundering as a pirate]] and frequently gets into fights with America or France, but is more bark than bite and clearly has a softer side (he's not called a Tsun''dere'' for nothing, after all), is more VitriolicBestBuds than outright enemies with America and France, and [[LoveHurts suffered]] (and probably [[TheWoobie still is suffering]]) from heartbreak due to the one he cared for the most [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution leaving him]]. In fanworks, one side of his Tsundere personality is all too often exaggerated at the expense of the other - and when said exaggerated side is the 'tsun', he becomes a ManipulativeBastard who only cares about himself, his empire, and/or [[{{Yandere}} forcibly]] [[IfICantHaveYou possessing]] his object of desire. Becomes especially bad if Russia is made into the DracoInLeatherPants opposite of him, or America is woobiefied into an innocent and helpless victim.
14th Sep '14 8:28:08 AM MightyKombat
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** Actually, the original manga shows the nations having at least some degree of respect and care for their citizens if they're good people. France is rather kind to a young soldier whom he befriends in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne, Cameroon is a GentleGiant who teaches how to play soccer to the kids of his land, and we recently learned that little!America used to be rather tight with a kid named Davie [[spoiler: as he grew up, had kids/grandkids and died.]]
*** They even extend their kindness to people ''who aren't their own citizens''. France also manages to strike an InterGenerationalFriendship of sorts with an American young woman named Lisa [[spoiler: who is hinted to be the reincarnation of Joan of Arc]], without making any distinctions in regards to her nationality.
26th Jul '14 4:48:28 PM Espea
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** You could argue that the nations had developed a dark sense of humor in the GagDub as a coping mechanism to living hundreds of years through various wars and crises, which commonly happens in real life for people who have to be surrounded by death and sickness on a near-daily basis (such as doctors).
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