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29th Apr '16 12:02:17 AM yin_13147
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* ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' did this with Frederick Chilton, of all people. In the first season, he was portrayed as little more than an incompetent SmugSnake psychiatrist. In the second season, when Will Graham came under his "care," Chilton seemed to be gearing up to be even more of an epic {{Jerkass}} than before. Which... he still more or less was, but the showrunners took care to spotlight the more hilarious aspects of Raúl Esparza's performance, leading Chilton into LoveToHate territory. Then he got ahold of the SmartBall and became an unlikely (albeit self-serving) ally of Will's, at a time when most of the rest of the cast was still treating Will as [[CassandraTruth delusional]] about Hannibal. And then they basically dedicated an entire episode to Chilton being snarky about Hannibal Lecter's [[ImAHumanitarian culinary interests]], at which point he was officially rescued. By the time [[spoiler:Hannibal sprang the trap he'd set for Chilton all along, fandom ''exploded'' with theories on how Chilton [[TisOnlyABulletInTheBrain could still be alive]].]]
** Alana Bloom was a very likable character in the first season due to her always showing concern for Will's well-being, and is the only one who sincerely tries to help him compared to the others who would either manipulate him or suspect him. But then in the latter half of the second season, after Hannibal tried to have Hannibal murdered by proxy, she [[TookALevelInJerkass became very resentful of Will, and would always regard him with hostility from then on]]. And during this time, she entered in a romantic relationship with Hannibal, becoming so invested in her feelings for the latter that she absolutely refuses to hear anyone out who would start to believe or consider that Will may be right about Hannibal being a killer. Near the season finale, she was slowly redeemed in the eyes of the fandom when she ''finally'' suspects Hannibal may be more than who he seems, which led to her finding out that Will was right all along, and she completely acknowledges her fault in this. She is then fully rescued by the Season 2 finale, when she confronts Hannibal at gunpoint and does not even hesitate to pull the trigger, only failing to get a bullet on him since [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy he saw it coming beforehand]]. Her character [[TookALevelInBadass Taking A Level In Badass]] in the third season by plotting to take down Hannibal ensured the fact that she is well-beloved by all fans again.

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did this with Frederick Chilton, of all people. In the first season, he was portrayed as little more than an incompetent SmugSnake psychiatrist. In the second season, when Will Graham came under his "care," Chilton seemed to be gearing up to be even more of an epic {{Jerkass}} than before. Which... he still more or less was, but the showrunners took care to spotlight the more hilarious aspects of Raúl Esparza's performance, leading Chilton into LoveToHate territory. Then he got ahold of the SmartBall and became an unlikely (albeit self-serving) ally of Will's, at a time when most of the rest of the cast was still treating Will as [[CassandraTruth delusional]] about Hannibal. And then they basically dedicated an entire episode to Chilton being snarky about Hannibal Lecter's [[ImAHumanitarian culinary interests]], at which point he was officially rescued. By the time [[spoiler:Hannibal sprang the trap he'd set for Chilton all along, fandom ''exploded'' with theories on how Chilton [[TisOnlyABulletInTheBrain could still be alive]].]]
** Alana Bloom was a very likable character in the first season due to her always showing concern for Will's well-being, and is the only one who sincerely tries to help him compared to the others who would either manipulate him or suspect him. But then in the latter half of the second season, after Hannibal tried to have Hannibal murdered by proxy, she [[TookALevelInJerkass became very resentful of Will, and would always regard him with hostility from then on]]. And during this time, she entered in a romantic relationship with Hannibal, becoming so invested in her feelings for the latter that she absolutely refuses to hear anyone out who would start to believe or consider that Will may be right about Hannibal being a killer. Of course, almost everyone found it hard to continue seeing her as sympathetic at this point, and grew extremely annoyed with her. Near the season finale, she was slowly redeemed in the eyes of the fandom when she ''finally'' suspects Hannibal may be more than who he seems, which led to her finding out that Will was right all along, and she completely acknowledges her fault in this. She is then fully rescued by the Season 2 finale, when she confronts Hannibal at gunpoint and does not even hesitate to pull the trigger, only failing to get a bullet on him since [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy he saw it coming beforehand]]. Her character [[TookALevelInBadass Taking A Level In Badass]] in the third season by plotting to take down Hannibal ensured cemented the fact that she is well-beloved by all fans again.
28th Apr '16 11:59:41 PM yin_13147
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** Alana Bloom was a very likable character in the first season due to her always showing concern for Will's well-being, and is the only one who sincerely tries to help him compared to the others who would either manipulate him or suspect him. But then in the latter half of the second season, after Hannibal tried to have Hannibal murdered by proxy, she [[TookALevelInJerkass became very resentful of Will, and would always regard him with a certain level of hostility from then on]]. And during this time, she entered in a romantic relationship with Hannibal, becoming so invested in her feelings for the latter that she absolutely refuses to hear anyone out who would start to believe or consider that Will may be right about Hannibal being a killer. Near the season finale, she was slowly redeemed in the eyes of the fandom when she ''finally'' suspects Hannibal may be more than who he seems, which led to her finding out that Will was right all along, and she completely acknowledges her fault in this. She is then fully rescued by the Season 2 finale, when she confronts Hannibal at gunpoint and does not even hesitate to pull the trigger, only failing to get a bullet on him since [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy he saw it coming beforehand]]. Her character [[TookALevelInBadass TakingALevelInBadass]] in the third season by plotting to take down Hannibal ensured the fact that she is well-beloved by all fans again.

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** Alana Bloom was a very likable character in the first season due to her always showing concern for Will's well-being, and is the only one who sincerely tries to help him compared to the others who would either manipulate him or suspect him. But then in the latter half of the second season, after Hannibal tried to have Hannibal murdered by proxy, she [[TookALevelInJerkass became very resentful of Will, and would always regard him with a certain level of hostility from then on]]. And during this time, she entered in a romantic relationship with Hannibal, becoming so invested in her feelings for the latter that she absolutely refuses to hear anyone out who would start to believe or consider that Will may be right about Hannibal being a killer. Near the season finale, she was slowly redeemed in the eyes of the fandom when she ''finally'' suspects Hannibal may be more than who he seems, which led to her finding out that Will was right all along, and she completely acknowledges her fault in this. She is then fully rescued by the Season 2 finale, when she confronts Hannibal at gunpoint and does not even hesitate to pull the trigger, only failing to get a bullet on him since [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy he saw it coming beforehand]]. Her character [[TookALevelInBadass TakingALevelInBadass]] Taking A Level In Badass]] in the third season by plotting to take down Hannibal ensured the fact that she is well-beloved by all fans again.
28th Apr '16 11:52:07 PM yin_13147
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* ''Series/TheFlash'': When first introduced Eddie Thawn wasn't viewed to highly, being a Smug, [[PrettyBoy Pretty]] CowboyCop, known for keeping track of his arrest record and romantic rival to Barry, who hated the Flash [[GreenEyedMonster mostly due to Iris' fascination with him]]. It seemed his only role was to be [[HateSink the asshole that Iris would eventually leave for Barry.]] Thankfully he TookALevelInKindness very shortly after, become a friend and mentor to Barry, eventually coming around and recognizing The Flash as a hero, [[FriendOnTheForce assisting him]] in any way he could. This support doubled [[SecretKeeper when Barry eventually let him in on the secret]]. By the time he was fully redeemed in the eyes of the fans, [[spoiler: those who initially wanted [[DieForOurShip out of the picture]] unfortunately got their wish, and his finally act, [[HeroicSacrifice killing himself to save everyone from the Reverse Flash]] solidified his departure from being the shows [[TheScrappy Scrappy]]. So much so, that his death [[ILetGwenStacyDie was one of the reasons Barry questioned his role as Cental City's hero]]]]

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* ''Series/TheFlash'': When first introduced Eddie Thawn Thawne wasn't viewed to too highly, being a Smug, smug [[PrettyBoy Pretty]] CowboyCop, known for keeping track of his arrest record and his role as romantic rival to Barry, who hated Barry,. He evenhated the Flash [[GreenEyedMonster mostly due to Iris' fascination with him]]. It seemed his only role was to be [[HateSink the asshole that Iris would eventually leave for Barry.]] Thankfully he TookALevelInKindness very shortly after, become became a friend and mentor to Barry, eventually coming around and recognizing The Flash as a hero, [[FriendOnTheForce assisting him]] in any way he could. This support doubled [[SecretKeeper when Barry eventually let him in on the secret]]. By the time he was fully redeemed in the eyes of the fans, [[spoiler: and those who initially wanted [[DieForOurShip him out of the picture]] unfortunately got their wish, and his finally act, as in the finale, [[HeroicSacrifice killing he killed himself to save everyone from the Reverse Flash]] Flash]], which solidified his departure from being the shows show's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]]. So much so, that his death [[ILetGwenStacyDie was one of the reasons Barry questioned his role as Cental Central City's hero]]]]hero.]]]]



* ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' did this with Frederick Chilton, of all people. In the first season, he was portrayed as little more than an incompetent SmugSnake psychiatrist. In the second season, when Will Graham came under his "care," Chilton seemed to be gearing up to be even more of an epic {{Jerkass}} than before. Which... he still more or less was, but the showrunners took care to spotlight the more hilarious aspects of Raúl Esparza's performance, leading Chilton into LoveToHate territory. Then he got ahold of the SmartBall and became an unlikely (albeit self-serving) ally of Will's, at a time when most of the rest of the cast was still treating Will as [[CassandraTruth delusional]] about Hannibal. And then they basically dedicated an entire episode (''Futamono'') to Chilton being snarky about Hannibal Lecter's [[ImAHumanitarian culinary interests]], at which point he was officially rescued. By the time [[spoiler:Hannibal sprang the trap he'd set for Chilton all along, fandom ''exploded'' with theories on how Chilton [[TisOnlyABulletInTheBrain could still be alive]].]]

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* ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' did this with Frederick Chilton, of all people. In the first season, he was portrayed as little more than an incompetent SmugSnake psychiatrist. In the second season, when Will Graham came under his "care," Chilton seemed to be gearing up to be even more of an epic {{Jerkass}} than before. Which... he still more or less was, but the showrunners took care to spotlight the more hilarious aspects of Raúl Esparza's performance, leading Chilton into LoveToHate territory. Then he got ahold of the SmartBall and became an unlikely (albeit self-serving) ally of Will's, at a time when most of the rest of the cast was still treating Will as [[CassandraTruth delusional]] about Hannibal. And then they basically dedicated an entire episode (''Futamono'') to Chilton being snarky about Hannibal Lecter's [[ImAHumanitarian culinary interests]], at which point he was officially rescued. By the time [[spoiler:Hannibal sprang the trap he'd set for Chilton all along, fandom ''exploded'' with theories on how Chilton [[TisOnlyABulletInTheBrain could still be alive]].]]]]
** Alana Bloom was a very likable character in the first season due to her always showing concern for Will's well-being, and is the only one who sincerely tries to help him compared to the others who would either manipulate him or suspect him. But then in the latter half of the second season, after Hannibal tried to have Hannibal murdered by proxy, she [[TookALevelInJerkass became very resentful of Will, and would always regard him with a certain level of hostility from then on]]. And during this time, she entered in a romantic relationship with Hannibal, becoming so invested in her feelings for the latter that she absolutely refuses to hear anyone out who would start to believe or consider that Will may be right about Hannibal being a killer. Near the season finale, she was slowly redeemed in the eyes of the fandom when she ''finally'' suspects Hannibal may be more than who he seems, which led to her finding out that Will was right all along, and she completely acknowledges her fault in this. She is then fully rescued by the Season 2 finale, when she confronts Hannibal at gunpoint and does not even hesitate to pull the trigger, only failing to get a bullet on him since [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy he saw it coming beforehand]]. Her character [[TookALevelInBadass TakingALevelInBadass]] in the third season by plotting to take down Hannibal ensured the fact that she is well-beloved by all fans again.
18th Apr '16 5:41:27 PM ajitter89
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* Series/TheFlash: When first introduced Eddie Thawn wasn't viewed to highly, being a Smug, [[PrettyBoy Pretty]] CowboyCop, known for keeping track of his arrest record and romantic rival to Barry, who hated the Flash [[GreenEyedMonster mostly due to Iris' fascination with him]]. Thankfully he TookALevelInKindness very shortly after, become a friend and mentor to Barry, eventually coming around and recognizing The Flash as a hero, [[FriendOnTheForce assisting him]] in any way he could. This support doubled [[SecretKeeper when Barry eventually let him in on the secret]]. By the time he was fully redeemed in the eyes of the fans, [[spoiler: those who initially wanted [[DieForOurShip out of the picture]] unfortunately got their wish, and his finally act, [[HeroicSacrifice killing himself to save everyone from the Reverse Flash]] solidified his departure from being the shows [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].]]

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* Series/TheFlash: ''Series/TheFlash'': When first introduced Eddie Thawn wasn't viewed to highly, being a Smug, [[PrettyBoy Pretty]] CowboyCop, known for keeping track of his arrest record and romantic rival to Barry, who hated the Flash [[GreenEyedMonster mostly due to Iris' fascination with him]]. It seemed his only role was to be [[HateSink the asshole that Iris would eventually leave for Barry.]] Thankfully he TookALevelInKindness very shortly after, become a friend and mentor to Barry, eventually coming around and recognizing The Flash as a hero, [[FriendOnTheForce assisting him]] in any way he could. This support doubled [[SecretKeeper when Barry eventually let him in on the secret]]. By the time he was fully redeemed in the eyes of the fans, [[spoiler: those who initially wanted [[DieForOurShip out of the picture]] unfortunately got their wish, and his finally act, [[HeroicSacrifice killing himself to save everyone from the Reverse Flash]] solidified his departure from being the shows [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].]] So much so, that his death [[ILetGwenStacyDie was one of the reasons Barry questioned his role as Cental City's hero]]]]
7th Apr '16 5:47:56 AM bleach246
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** Laurel Lance began the series as ''the'' Scrappy of the Arrow fandom in the first two seasons often due to her Hypocritical actions and her [[RomanticPlotTumor less then stellar romance with Oliver]] which for many fans caused them to latch on to the [[FanPreferredCouple Olicity pairing instead]]. Comic book fans likewise couldn't stand her due to her being [[AdaptationalWimp significantly less awesome]] then her comic book counterpart ComicBook/BlackCanary. Even when she did finally done her costume in season 3 many fans hated that this came about [[spoiler: due to the death of her more beloved sister instead]]. However as the season progressed and she gained some much needed CharacterDevelopment and [[TookALevelInBadass Badassness]] a lot of fans started to warm up to her. Come Season 4 a combination of much more closely resembling her main comic counterpart, significantly better acting then when she started, and firmly situating herself as the CoolBigSis of the group won over a lot of fans to her side (it also properly helped that Felicity become a significant BaseBreaker during this time). [[spoiler: It's pretty telling that a lot of the Arrow fandom seems to have reacted in sadness and anger at her death in season 4 episode 18 rather then the glee she properly would have gotten if she died at the start of the series]].
30th Mar '16 5:26:11 PM ajitter89
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* Series/TheFlash: When first introduced Eddie Thawn wasn't viewed to highly, being a Smug, [[PrettyBoy Pretty]] CowboyCop, known for keeping track of his arrest record and romantic rival to Barry, who hated the Flash [[GreenEyedMonster mostly due to Iris' fascination with him]]. Thankfully he TookALevelInKindness very shortly after, become a friend and mentor to Barry, eventually coming around and recognizing The Flash as a hero, [[FriendOnTheForce assisting him]] in any way he could. This support doubled [[SecretKeeper when Barry eventually let him in on the secret]]. By the time he was fully redeemed in the eyes of the fans, [[spoiler: those who initially wanted [[DieForOurShip out of the picture]] unfortunately got their wish, and his finally act, [[HeroicSacrifice killing himself to save everyone from the Reverse Flash]] solidified his departure from being the shows [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].]]
27th Mar '16 5:38:55 PM nombretomado
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* ''Series/RobinHood'' and ''DowntonAbbey'': An interesting meta-example happened across these two shows. In ''DowntonAbbey'', Joanne Froggatt plays the {{plucky|Girl}} and down-to-earth Anna, a character that is immensely popular within the fanbase. This is in stark contrast to her stint as the infinitely irritating [[CreatorsPet Kate]] on ''Series/RobinHood'', (which directly preceded her role in ''Downton'') where she was completely and utterly '''loathed''' by viewers. It just goes to show how much an actor's likability depends on good writing. Even Jo herself seems to be aware of it, considering ''Series/RobinHood'' doesn't appear on her resume.

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* ''Series/RobinHood'' and ''DowntonAbbey'': ''Series/DowntonAbbey'': An interesting meta-example happened across these two shows. In ''DowntonAbbey'', ''Downton Abbey'', Joanne Froggatt plays the {{plucky|Girl}} and down-to-earth Anna, a character that is immensely popular within the fanbase. This is in stark contrast to her stint as the infinitely irritating [[CreatorsPet Kate]] on ''Series/RobinHood'', (which directly preceded her role in ''Downton'') where she was completely and utterly '''loathed''' by viewers. It just goes to show how much an actor's likability depends on good writing. Even Jo herself seems to be aware of it, considering ''Series/RobinHood'' doesn't appear on her resume.
27th Mar '16 11:39:58 AM Sapphirea2
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** Although Clara's performance was praised by most people, a fandom drained with ArcFatigue for Creator/StevenMoffat's LivingMacGuffin female characters found "the Impossible Girl" to be a "generic companion" FlatCharacter, dressed in a melodramatic mystery arc we'd already seen several times before in this era. Due to the nature of the arc she was introduced in (which involved her repeatedly appearing as different characters and dying) as well as the main Smith-era arc still not having been resolved, she was stuck doing nothing or having her character reset to zero for most of Series 7, and conflicting production instructions meant different writers interpreted her in very different ways. The nature of her relationship with the Doctor (who didn't trust her, but was sexually obsessed with her anyway) also meant he ended up acting like a creepy old man, but with this presented as a romantic ideal. However, Series 8 completely overhauled her character, giving her a different job, a genuinely dramatic PartTimeHero plotline and a complicated, {{Hubris}}tic relationship with time travel, making her much more flawed, unique and interesting. The elements of her relationship with the Doctor that came across as unintentionally creepy were brought to the forefront and handled more deftly, without sacrificing the heartwarming qualities of their friendship; and the recasting of the Doctor with a much older man forced their relationship away from the standard 'two young hot people in love' idea towards something still romantic, but more complicated.

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** Although Clara's Jenna Coleman's performance was praised by most people, a fandom drained with ArcFatigue for Creator/StevenMoffat's LivingMacGuffin female characters found "the Impossible "Impossible Girl" Clara Oswald to be a "generic companion" FlatCharacter, dressed in a melodramatic mystery arc we'd already seen several times before in this era. Due to the nature of the arc she was introduced in (which involved her repeatedly appearing (her first two appearances were as different characters and dying) who died helping the Doctor -- but implied to all be the same woman) as well as the main Smith-era arc still not having been resolved, resolved ''and'' the 50th anniversary special WhamEpisode being set up, she was stuck doing nothing or having her character reset to zero for most of Series 7, 7B, and conflicting production instructions meant different writers interpreted her in very different ways. The nature of her relationship with the Doctor (who didn't trust her, but was sexually obsessed with her anyway) also meant he ended up acting like a creepy old man, but with this presented as a romantic ideal.ideal, and when her actions in the SeasonFinale and the follow-up specials easily made her one of the most powerful companions ''ever'', she garnered MarySue accusations. However, Series 8 completely overhauled her character, giving her a different job, a genuinely dramatic PartTimeHero plotline and a complicated, {{Hubris}}tic relationship with time travel, making her much more flawed, unique and interesting. The elements of her relationship with the Doctor that came across as unintentionally creepy were brought to the forefront and handled more deftly, without sacrificing the heartwarming qualities of their friendship; and the recasting of the Doctor with a much older man forced their relationship away from the standard 'two young hot people in love' idea towards something still romantic, but more complicated. This continued into the well-received Series 9, in which she became his DistaffCounterpart for better and for worse; although her ultimate fate ([[spoiler: she was Killed Off For Real, but due to the Doctor's mad attempt to rescue her she can have infinite adventures in the last moment of her life, complete with her own TARDIS and companion]]) caused a BrokenBase, it was a ''loooooong'' way from where she started as a character in more ways than one.
19th Mar '16 1:52:01 AM Hossmeister
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12th Mar '16 10:20:44 PM ajitter89
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** Craig when first introduced in season 6 as the new member of the Parks and Rec staff, was an annoying, constantly screaming, always antagonistic drama queen. This came to a front when he selfishly became angry that Ben and Leslie were having triplets, taking away from the fact that he successful ran the auction without them, which angered many of the fans. By Season 7 he was much more tolerable, maybe it was because they calmed him down immensely, or compared to the rest of the office, was [[OutOfFocus hardly seen at all]], or maybe a mixture of both, whatever way they did it, his reception was generally better received during this season.
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