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* AlasPoorVillain: Howard looked visibly horrified (along with Captain Carter) when the tentacled monster brutally crushes Red Skull to death.
-->'''Captain Carter:''' [[OhCrap Okay, maybe we need a plan!]]
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* RoleSwapAU: This episode shows a world where Peggy took Steve's place and became the First Avenger instead, while Steve went on to become an Iron Man like character named the HYDRA Stomper.

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When [[Characters/MCUPeggyCarter Peggy Carter]] [[ForWantOfANail decides to stay with]] [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve Rogers]] during [[SuperSerum Dr. Erskine's experiment]], [[TheMole Heinz Kruger]] gets nervous and decides to attack during the experiment instead of after. During the attack Steve is shot, leaving him unable to take the super-serum while the chamber is losing power. With few options left Peggy volunteers herself for the procedure, ultimately becoming the war hero known as Captain Carter.

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When [[Characters/MCUPeggyCarter Peggy Carter]] [[ForWantOfANail [[PointOfDivergence decides to stay with]] [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve Rogers]] during [[SuperSerum Dr. Erskine's experiment]], [[TheMole Heinz Kruger]] gets nervous and decides to attack during the experiment instead of after. During the attack Steve is shot, leaving him unable to take the super-serum while the chamber is losing power. With few options left Peggy volunteers herself for the procedure, ultimately becoming the war hero known as Captain Carter.



* ForWantOfANail: The new timeline arises from Peggy choosing to stay in the main theater rather than watch from the observation room, causing Kruger to get nervous and attempt to blow up the complex before the transfusion can even begin, even attempting to assassinate Steve. After killing Kruger and seeing that the chamber is losing power, Peggy decides to get into the chamber in Steve's stead before it shuts down completely, gaining the Super Soldier Serum effects and becoming Captain Carter. Steve himself survives the ordeal but remains skinny and gains a limp.
-->'''Dr. Erskine:''' Agent Carter, wouldn't you be more comfortable in the booth?\\
'''Peggy Carter:''' No, I'd prefer to stay.\\
'''Uatu:''' There. That's the moment… that created a new universe. When asked to leave the room, Margaret "Peggy" Carter chose to stay. But soon it would be her venturing into the unknown, and creating a new world.
** It's also possible that the nail stretches back even further: given that HYDRA was not able to obtain the Tesseract until much later in this timeline, HYDRA in this iteration is less technologically advanced and likely a lot more nervous in general about falling even further behind. Which would explain Kruger deciding to blow the theater early the moment Peggy decided to remain.


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* PointOfDivergence: The new timeline arises from Peggy choosing to stay in the main theater rather than watch from the observation room, causing Kruger to get nervous and attempt to blow up the complex before the transfusion can even begin, even attempting to assassinate Steve. After killing Kruger and seeing that the chamber is losing power, Peggy decides to get into the chamber in Steve's stead before it shuts down completely, gaining the Super Soldier Serum effects and becoming Captain Carter. Steve himself survives the ordeal but remains skinny and gains a limp.
-->'''Dr. Erskine:''' Agent Carter, wouldn't you be more comfortable in the booth?\\
'''Peggy Carter:''' No, I'd prefer to stay.\\
'''Uatu:''' There. That's the moment… that created a new universe. When asked to leave the room, Margaret "Peggy" Carter chose to stay. But soon it would be her venturing into the unknown, and creating a new world.
** It's also possible that the nail stretches back even further: given that HYDRA was not able to obtain the Tesseract until much later in this timeline, HYDRA in this iteration is less technologically advanced and likely a lot more nervous in general about falling even further behind. Which would explain Kruger deciding to blow the theater early the moment Peggy decided to remain.
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*** It's also more than a little reminiscent of the scene in the original ''Film/{{Hellboy}}'', when the titular character snags a statue's oversized broadsword to hack his way free of a similarly-huge tentacled EldritchAbomination.

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*** It's also more than a little reminiscent of the scene in the original ''Film/{{Hellboy}}'', ''Film/{{Hellboy|2004}}'', when the titular character snags a statue's oversized broadsword to hack his way free of a similarly-huge tentacled EldritchAbomination.
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** Because HYDRA doesn't have the Tesseract nor Arnim Zola to upgrade their existing tech as well, Johann Schmidt's Coupe and the Schnellzug [=EB912=] are powered by conventional means such as gasoline or coal, rather than with Tesseract-based energy or tech.

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** Because HYDRA doesn't have the Tesseract nor Arnim Zola to upgrade their existing tech as well, Johann Schmidt's Coupe and the Schnellzug [=EB912=] are powered by conventional means such as gasoline or coal, diesel, rather than with Tesseract-based energy or tech.
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** Because HYDRA doesn't have the Tesseract nor Arnim Zola to upgrade their existing tech as well, Johann Schmidt's Coupe and the Schnellzug [=EB912=] are powered by conventional means rather than with Tesseract-based energy or tech.

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** Because HYDRA doesn't have the Tesseract nor Arnim Zola to upgrade their existing tech as well, Johann Schmidt's Coupe and the Schnellzug [=EB912=] are powered by conventional means such as gasoline or coal, rather than with Tesseract-based energy or tech.

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* AdaptationalWimp: The World War II incarnation of HYDRA lag behind technologically compared to their Sacred Timeline counterparts, with their arsenal still mainly consisting of the standard German weapons and vehicles of the time. This is justified on account that the Tesseract is found much later in this timeline, and Dr. Arnim Zola is captured by Captain Carter before he can create any new weapon designs powered by the Tesseract. This in turn justifies the change in plan by Red Skull; rather than using Tesseract powered weaponry and industry to manufacture his city-busting bombs and flying wing, he has a much shorter timeframe to work with, so he opts to open a dimensional breach to his "champion" instead.

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The World War II incarnation of HYDRA lag behind technologically compared to their Sacred Timeline counterparts, with their arsenal still mainly consisting of the standard German weapons and vehicles of the time. This is justified on account that the Tesseract is found much later in this timeline, and Dr. Arnim Zola is captured by Captain Carter before he can create any new weapon designs powered by the Tesseract. This in turn justifies the change in plan by Red Skull; rather than using Tesseract powered weaponry and industry to manufacture his city-busting bombs and flying wing, he has a much shorter timeframe to work with, so he opts to open a dimensional breach to his "champion" instead.instead.
** Because HYDRA doesn't have the Tesseract nor Arnim Zola to upgrade their existing tech as well, Johann Schmidt's Coupe and the Schnellzug [=EB912=] are powered by conventional means rather than with Tesseract-based energy or tech.
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** Howard says that the gamma radiation around the area HYDRA attacked in Norway indicates a power source that could power London for a century, and Peggy adds "or blow it to kingdom come inside 60 seconds". This mirrors a conversation between Tony Stark and Yensen that the arc reactor could run his heart for 50 lifetimes, or power "something really big for 15 minutes", as the Howard's designs for the arc reactor were based on the Tesseract. The mention of gamma radiation is also a nod to ''The Avengers'' where the Tesseract was said to put out a gamma signature.
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* AmazonianBeauty: Peggy Carter, after she becomes a last-minute substitute for Steve in Erskine's super-soldier process. When the chamber opens, she still looks beautiful and ''[[https://i.imgur.com/4opFr1r.jpg buff]]''. Howard snarks that she won't be needing heels anymore. Despite the difference in physique and height Steve is still very attracted to her.

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* AmazonianBeauty: Peggy Carter, after she becomes a last-minute substitute for Steve in Erskine's super-soldier process. When the chamber opens, she still looks beautiful and ''[[https://i.imgur.com/4opFr1r.jpg buff]]''. Howard snarks that she won't be needing heels anymore. Despite the difference in physique and height height, Steve is still very attracted to her.



** HYDRA's SS uniforms are retained throughout the episode, whereas in ''The First Avenger'' they only wore them during the Tonsberg raid, and then ditched them in subseqeuent scenes for the upgraded uniforms.

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** HYDRA's SS uniforms are retained throughout the episode, whereas in ''The First Avenger'' they only wore them during the Tonsberg raid, and then ditched them in subseqeuent subsequent scenes for the upgraded uniforms.
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!! "What If... Captain Carter Were the First Avenger?"

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** Red Skull's hideout is known as ''Castle de krake''. Krake as in ''kraken''...

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** Red Skull's hideout is known as ''Castle de krake''. Krake as in ''kraken''...''kraken''…



'''Uatu:''' There. That's the moment... that created a new universe. When asked to leave the room, Margaret "Peggy" Carter chose to stay. But soon it would be her venturing into the unknown, and creating a new world.

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'''Uatu:''' There. That's the moment... moment… that created a new universe. When asked to leave the room, Margaret "Peggy" Carter chose to stay. But soon it would be her venturing into the unknown, and creating a new world.



->''"Her one choice gave birth to a whole new history, and gave the multiverse a new hero. As for me, these are my stories. I observe all that transpires here, but [[AlienNonInterferenceClause I do not, cannot, will not interfere]]. For I am... '''The Watcher.'''"''

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->''"Her one choice gave birth to a whole new history, and gave the multiverse a new hero. As for me, these are my stories. I observe all that transpires here, but [[AlienNonInterferenceClause I do not, cannot, will not interfere]]. For I am... am… '''The Watcher.'''"''

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