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* HoYay: The Critic's [[InUniverse problem]] with Sam and Frodo's relationship. "If Frodo and Sam were actually gay in the story, I wouldn't care...The intention was not to show ThePowerOfLove; it was meant to show ThePowerOfFriendship. Having a friendship and being in love are two very different things." To the Critic, it was obvious that Tolkien's intention was to show the friendship aspect more.


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* PlatonicWritingRomanticReading: The Critic's [[InUniverse problem]] with Sam and Frodo's relationship. "If Frodo and Sam were actually gay in the story, I wouldn't care...The intention was not to show ThePowerOfLove; it was meant to show ThePowerOfFriendship. Having a friendship and being in love are two very different things." To the Critic, it was obvious that Tolkien's intention was to show the friendship aspect more.
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# The homoerotic undertones of Frodo and Sam's relationship -- specifically, [[InUniverse according to the Critic,]] [[RelationshipWritingFumble as a detriment to showing their strong friendship]].

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# The homoerotic undertones of Frodo and Sam's relationship -- specifically, [[InUniverse according to the Critic,]] [[RelationshipWritingFumble [[PlatonicWritingRomanticReading as a detriment to showing their strong friendship]].
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* StuffedInTheFridge: Albeit a non-lethal variation. Arwen was essentially debilitated as a means of giving Aragorn further motivation for his character, according to the Critic.

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* StuffedInTheFridge: Albeit a non-lethal variation. Arwen was essentially debilitated as a means of giving Aragorn further motivation for his character, according to the Critic.----
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# Sara-who? (Saruman's absence in the theatrical cut of ''Return of the King''.)

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# Sara-who? (Saruman's absence in the theatrical cut of ''Return ''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRingsTheReturnOfTheKing Return of the King''.King]]''.)



# Those Close-Up Shots (Pointless wide-angle close-up shots, specifically in the first movie.)

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# Those Close-Up Shots (Pointless wide-angle close-up shots, specifically in the [[Film/TheLordOfTheRingsTheFellowshipOfTheRing first movie.movie]].)



# The numerous false endings in ''Return of the King''.
# Just Letting Gandalf Die (The Fellowship letting Gandalf fall down an abyss in the first film without any real justification.)

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# The numerous false endings in ''Return ''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRingsTheReturnOfTheKing Return of the King''.
King]]''.
# Just Letting Gandalf Die (The Fellowship letting Gandalf fall down an abyss in the [[Film/TheLordOfTheRingsTheFellowshipOfTheRing first film film]] without any real justification.)



* EndingFatigue: [[InUniverse In regards to]] the ending of ''Return of the King''.

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* EndingFatigue: [[InUniverse In regards to]] the ending of ''Return ''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRingsTheReturnOfTheKing The Return of the King''.King]]''.
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# "Arwen's life is now tied to the fate of the Ring." (The ring's connection to Arwen's fate [and, by extension, her reduced role in the later films]).
# [[Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail "I'm Not Dead!"]] (Constant death fake outs).

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# "Arwen's life is now tied to the fate of the Ring." (The ring's connection to Arwen's fate [and, by extension, her reduced role in the later films]).
films].)
# [[Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail "I'm Not Dead!"]] (Constant death fake outs).outs.)

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* GaryStu: The Critic considers Legolas to be this. [[invoked]]

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* GaryStu: The GodModeSue: What the Critic considers thinks Legolas to be this.became over the course of the movies. [[invoked]]


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* MartyStu: The Critic considers Legolas to have become one over the course of the movies. [[invoked]]

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'''Countdown:''' The Top 11 Dumbest Moments in the [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Lord of the Rings films]]

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'''Countdown:''' The Top 11 Dumbest Moments in the [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Lord of the Rings films]]
''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' films



# Sara-who? (Saruman's absence in the theatrical cut of Return of the King.)
# The homoerotic undertones of Frodo and Sam's relationship--specifically, [[{{In-universe}} according to the Critic,]] [[RelationshipWritingFumble as a detriment to showing their strong friendship]].

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# Sara-who? (Saruman's absence in the theatrical cut of Return ''Return of the King.King''.)
# The homoerotic undertones of Frodo and Sam's relationship--specifically, [[{{In-universe}} relationship -- specifically, [[InUniverse according to the Critic,]] [[RelationshipWritingFumble as a detriment to showing their strong friendship]].



* BadassDecay: The Critic [[{{In-universe}} states]] that this happened to Arwen after being written out of the story via her "life [being] tied to the fate of the Ring."
** StuffedInTheFridge: Albeit a non-lethal variation. Arwen was essentially debilitated as a means of giving Aragorn further motivation for his character, according to the Critic.
* EndingFatigue: [[{{In-universe}} In regards to]] the ending of ''Return of the King''.

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* BadassDecay: The Critic [[{{In-universe}} [[InUniverse states]] that this happened to Arwen after being written out of the story via her "life [being] tied to the fate of the Ring."
** StuffedInTheFridge: Albeit a non-lethal variation. Arwen was essentially debilitated as a means of giving Aragorn further motivation for his character, according to the Critic.
* EndingFatigue: [[{{In-universe}} [[InUniverse In regards to]] the ending of ''Return of the King''.



* HoYay: The Critic's [[{{In-universe}} problem]] with Sam and Frodo's relationship. "If Frodo and Sam were actually gay in the story, I wouldn't care...The intention was not to show ThePowerOfLove; it was meant to show ThePowerOfFriendship. Having a friendship and being in love are two very different things." To the Critic, it was obvious that Tolkien's intention was to show the friendship aspect more.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] [[{{In-universe}} by the Critic]] in #5.

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* HoYay: The Critic's [[{{In-universe}} [[InUniverse problem]] with Sam and Frodo's relationship. "If Frodo and Sam were actually gay in the story, I wouldn't care...The intention was not to show ThePowerOfLove; it was meant to show ThePowerOfFriendship. Having a friendship and being in love are two very different things." To the Critic, it was obvious that Tolkien's intention was to show the friendship aspect more.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] [[{{In-universe}} [[InUniverse by the Critic]] in #5.



* RunningGag: The skits with Legolas solving everyone's problems by shooting an arrow with the Ring tied to it at Mount Doom, destroying it instantly.

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* RunningGag: The skits with Legolas solving everyone's problems by shooting an arrow with the Ring tied to it at Mount Doom, destroying it instantly.instantly.
* StuffedInTheFridge: Albeit a non-lethal variation. Arwen was essentially debilitated as a means of giving Aragorn further motivation for his character, according to the Critic.
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# The Eagles' neglected chance to save the world from the start.
# Saruman's absence in the original cut of Return of the King.

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# The Those Eagles Who Could've Stopped Everything (The Eagles' neglected chance to save the world from the start.
start.)
# Saruman's Sara-who? (Saruman's absence in the original theatrical cut of Return of the King.)



# The ring's connection to Arwen's fate (and, by extension, her reduced role in the later films).
# Constant death fake outs.
# John Noble's over-the-top performance of Denethor.
# Pointless wide-angle close-up shots.
# Legolas' lack of weakness and frequent show-off moments.
# Gimli's reduction to comic relief.

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# The "Arwen's life is now tied to the fate of the Ring." (The ring's connection to Arwen's fate (and, [and, by extension, her reduced role in the later films).
films]).
# Constant [[Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail "I'm Not Dead!"]] (Constant death fake outs.
outs).
# John Noble's Denethor (Creator/JohnNoble's over-the-top performance of Denethor.
Denethor, and by extension, his AdaptationalVillainy into a not-so sympathetic character.)
# Pointless Those Close-Up Shots (Pointless wide-angle close-up shots.
shots, specifically in the first movie.)
# Legolas' Legolas's Perfect Moments (Legolas's lack of weakness and frequent show-off moments.
moments.)
# Gimli's Idiot Moments (Gimli's reduction to comic relief.)



# The Fellowship letting Gandalf fall down an abyss in the first film without any real justification.

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# The Just Letting Gandalf Die (The Fellowship letting Gandalf fall down an abyss in the first film without any real justification.
justification.)



* NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat: What his "if they were actually gay that'd be cool" comments about Frodo/Sam comes off as, right before he makes disgusted faces about lines that were in the book.

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* NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat: What his "if they were actually gay that'd be cool" comments about Frodo/Sam comes off as, right before he makes disgusted not-impressed faces about lines that were in the book.
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* GaryStu: The Critic considers Legolas to be this.

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* GaryStu: *GaryStu: The Critic considers Legolas to be this.this. [[invoked]]
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* GaryStu: The critic consider this to Legolas.

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* GaryStu: The critic consider this Critic considers Legolas to Legolas.be this.
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* NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat: What his "if they were actually gay that'd be cool" comments about Frodo/Sam comes off as, right before he makes disgusted faces about lines that were in the book.

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* NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat: What his "if they were actually gay that'd be cool" comments about Frodo/Sam comes off as, right before he makes disgusted faces about lines that were in the book.book.
* RunningGag: The skits with Legolas solving everyone's problems by shooting an arrow with the Ring tied to it at Mount Doom, destroying it instantly.
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* AdaptationalComicRelief: The Critic doesn't like how this happened to Gimli.
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* GaryStu: Legolas.

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* GaryStu: The critic consider this to Legolas.
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* GaryStu: Legolas.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] [[{{In-universe}} by the Critic]] in #5.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] [[{{In-universe}} by the Critic]] in #5.#5.
* NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat: What his "if they were actually gay that'd be cool" comments about Frodo/Sam comes off as, right before he makes disgusted faces about lines that were in the book.
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# The homoerotic undertones of Frodo and Sam's relationship--specifically, [[RelationshipWritingFumble as a detriment to showing their strong friendship]].

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# The homoerotic undertones of Frodo and Sam's relationship--specifically, [[{{In-universe}} according to the Critic,]] [[RelationshipWritingFumble as a detriment to showing their strong friendship]].

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'''Countdown'''

# The eagles' neglected chance to save the world.
# Saruman's absence in Return of the King.
# Sam and Frodo's possibly homosexual relationship.
# The ring's connection to Arwen's fate.

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'''Countdown'''

'''Countdown:''' The Top 11 Dumbest Moments in the [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Lord of the Rings films]]

# The eagles' Eagles' neglected chance to save the world.
world from the start.
# Saruman's absence in the original cut of Return of the King.
# Sam The homoerotic undertones of Frodo and Frodo's possibly homosexual relationship.
Sam's relationship--specifically, [[RelationshipWritingFumble as a detriment to showing their strong friendship]].
# The ring's connection to Arwen's fate.fate (and, by extension, her reduced role in the later films).



# Legolas' lack of weakness.

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# Legolas' lack of weakness.weakness and frequent show-off moments.



# The numerous false endings in Return of the King.
# Letting Gandalf fall down an abyss in the first film.

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# The numerous false endings in Return ''Return of the King.
King''.
# Letting The Fellowship letting Gandalf fall down an abyss in the first film.film without any real justification.

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* BadassDecay: The Critic [[{{In-universe}} states]] that this happened to Arwen after being written out of the story via her "life [being] tied to the fate of the Ring."
** StuffedInTheFridge: Albeit a non-lethal variation. Arwen was essentially debilitated as a means of giving Aragorn further motivation for his character, according to the Critic.
* EndingFatigue: [[{{In-universe}} In regards to]] the ending of ''Return of the King''.
* HoYay: The Critic's [[{{In-universe}} problem]] with Sam and Frodo's relationship. "If Frodo and Sam were actually gay in the story, I wouldn't care...The intention was not to show ThePowerOfLove; it was meant to show ThePowerOfFriendship. Having a friendship and being in love are two very different things." To the Critic, it was obvious that Tolkien's intention was to show the friendship aspect more.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] [[{{In-universe}} by the Critic]] in #5.
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# The eagles neglected chance to save the world.

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# The eagles eagles' neglected chance to save the world.
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'''Countdown'''

# The eagles neglected chance to save the world.
# Saruman's absence in Return of the King.
# Sam and Frodo's possibly homosexual relationship.
# The ring's connection to Arwen's fate.
# Constant death fake outs.
# John Noble's over-the-top performance of Denethor.
# Pointless wide-angle close-up shots.
# Legolas' lack of weakness.
# Gimli's reduction to comic relief.
# The numerous false endings in Return of the King.
# Letting Gandalf fall down an abyss in the first film.

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