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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: During his MotiveRant, the Nazi commander hologram disparages UsefulNotes/TheRomanEmpire as being destroyed by his own Germanic peoples in the same speech which he expresses his disgust over the old Jewish kingdoms. However The Nazis ''invoked'' Ancient Rome with [[PuttingOnTheReich much of their pageantry]], and fascists of both Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy were fascinated by the Empire. It would be highly unlikely for a Nazi officer to belittle it in such a fashion.
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* GoodAllAlong: At least, for a somewhat loose definition of "good". Karr brainwashes the Voyager crew into becoming pawns in elaborate war games; killing them over and over again, only for the Doctor to revive them and send them back in to die. However, these acts of cruelty actually SAVED their lives by preventing the Hirogen from exterminating them on-mass. It also transpires that Karr was merely experimenting with the ship's holographic technology in order to provide his people with an alternative to actually dispersing themselves across the galaxy and hunting real prey, thereby saving the protagonists' lives along with the lives of the Hirogen themselves. Even Janeway herself admits that his intentions are in everyone's best interests.
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* GoodAllAlong: At least, for a somewhat loose definition of "good". Karr brainwashes the Voyager crew into becoming pawns in elaborate war games; killing them over and over again, only for the Doctor to revive them and send them back in to die. However, these acts of cruelty actually SAVED their lives by preventing the Hirogen from exterminating them on-mass. "en masse." It also transpires that Karr was merely experimenting with the ship's holographic technology in order to provide his people with an alternative to actually dispersing themselves across the galaxy and hunting real prey, thereby saving the protagonists' lives along with the lives of the Hirogen themselves. Even Janeway herself admits that his intentions are in everyone's best interests.
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'''CHAKOTAY (aka CAPTAIN MILLER):''' Nothing to apologise for, I'm the same way with my men. There's not a day goes by when I don't think to myself, I'm going to get 'em back safely, even if I die trying.\\
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'''CHAKOTAY (aka CAPTAIN MILLER):''' Nothing to apologise apologize for, I'm the same way with my men. There's not a day goes by when I don't think to myself, I'm going to get 'em back safely, even if I die trying.\\
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-->"One does not co-operate with decadent forms of life, one hunts them down and eliminates them. The Kommandant speaks of civilisation. The ancient Romans were civilised. The Jews are civilised. But in all its moral decay, Rome fell to the spears of our ancestors as the Jews are falling now. Look at our destiny! The field of red, the purity of German blood. The blazing white circle of the sun that sanctified that blood. No one can deny us, no power on Earth or beyond. Not the Christian Saviour, not the God of the Jews. We are driven by the very force that gives life to the universe itself! We must countermand the Kommandant's orders, stay and fight. We must be faithful to who we are."
* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Though this isn't apparent till Season 7's "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E9FleshAndBlood Flesh and Blood]]". At the end of the episode Janeway presents the new Alpha with holodeck technology, which he reluctantly accepts even though he claims not to have agreed with Karr's ideas. It seems like another victory for Federation ideals if the Hirogen stop hunting sentient species in favour of holograms.
* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Though this isn't apparent till Season 7's "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E9FleshAndBlood Flesh and Blood]]". At the end of the episode Janeway presents the new Alpha with holodeck technology, which he reluctantly accepts even though he claims not to have agreed with Karr's ideas. It seems like another victory for Federation ideals if the Hirogen stop hunting sentient species in favour of holograms.
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-->"One does not co-operate with decadent forms of life, one hunts them down and eliminates them. The Kommandant speaks of civilisation. civilization. The ancient Romans were civilised. civilized. The Jews are civilised.civilized. But in all its moral decay, Rome fell to the spears of our ancestors as the Jews are falling now. Look at our destiny! The field of red, the purity of German blood. The blazing white circle of the sun that sanctified that blood. No one can deny us, no power on Earth or beyond. Not the Christian Saviour, Savior, not the God of the Jews. We are driven by the very force that gives life to the universe itself! We must countermand the Kommandant's orders, stay and fight. We must be faithful to who we are."
* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Though this isn't apparent till Season 7's "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E9FleshAndBlood Flesh and Blood]]". At the end of the episode Janeway presents the new Alpha with holodeck technology, which he reluctantly accepts even though he claims not to have agreed with Karr's ideas. It seems like another victory for Federation ideals if the Hirogen stop hunting sentient species infavour favor of holograms.
* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Though this isn't apparent till Season 7's "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E9FleshAndBlood Flesh and Blood]]". At the end of the episode Janeway presents the new Alpha with holodeck technology, which he reluctantly accepts even though he claims not to have agreed with Karr's ideas. It seems like another victory for Federation ideals if the Hirogen stop hunting sentient species in
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* RuleOfSymbolism: Harry and the Doctor are organising a covert resistance to an enemy occupation at the same time as their colleagues are acting out the same scenario on the holodeck.
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* OnlyAFleshWound: Janeway takes a shot in the leg, which slows her down a little but otherwise has no ill effects.
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* GlamorousWartimeSinger: The role Seven plays in the World War II fantasy. And those are ''actually'' Creator/JeriRyan's pipes in the two musical numbers.
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: During his MotiveRant, the Nazi commander hologram disparages UsefulNotes/TheRomanEmpire as being destroyed by his own Germanic peoples in the same speech which he expresses his disgust over the old Jewish kingdoms. However The Nazis ''invoked'' Ancient Rome with [[PuttingOnTheReich much of their pageantry]], and fascists of both Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy were fascinated by the Empire. It would be highly unlikely for a Nazi officer to belittle it in such a fashion.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: The Alpha Hirogen thinks the Nazi MasterRace rhetoric is ridiculous. See TheReasonYouSuckSpeech below.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: The Alpha Hirogen thinks the Nazi MasterRace rhetoric is ridiculous. See TheReasonYouSuckSpeech below.
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* WomanInWhite: Katrine
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** Tim Russ in a white tux! Kate Mulgrew in a white tux!
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** [[{{Costumer}} Tim Russ in a white tux! Kate Mulgrew in a white tux!tux!]]
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: The Alpha Hirogen thinks the Nazi MasterRace rhetoric is ridiculous. See TheReasonYouSuckSpeech below.
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Though this isn't apparent till Season 7's "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E9FleshAndBlood Flesh and Blood]]". At the end of the episode Janeway presents the new Alpha with holodeck technology, which he reluctantly accepts even though he claims not to have agreed with Karr's ideas. It seems like another victory for Federation ideals if the Hirogen stop hunting sentient species in favour of holograms. As it turns out, AIIsACrapshoot...
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Though this isn't apparent till Season 7's "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E9FleshAndBlood Flesh and Blood]]". At the end of the episode Janeway presents the new Alpha with holodeck technology, which he reluctantly accepts even though he claims not to have agreed with Karr's ideas. It seems like another victory for Federation ideals if the Hirogen stop hunting sentient species in favour of holograms. As it turns out, AIIsACrapshoot...
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* DeadlyGame: Averted for the most part due to the Doctor's efforts and Karr's instructions to avoid permanent injury, but it's clear that it's only a matter of time.
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* DuelingScar: Appropriately for someone playing a German officer, Karr has an old scar on the left side of his face, though he presumably got his the hard way.
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* YouHaveToBelieveMe: Averted; Janeway simply comes up with the most convenient explanation when dealing with 'Captain Miller' (Chakotay). The area outside the holodeck is a secret bunker for developing [[StupidJetpackHitler Nazi superweapons]]. Jeffries tubes are {{Secret Underground Passage}}s. And the Klingons? Well, some residents of her town are a bit eccentric.
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* YouHaveToBelieveMe: Averted; Janeway simply comes up with the most convenient explanation when dealing with 'Captain Miller' (Chakotay). The area outside the holodeck is a secret bunker for developing [[StupidJetpackHitler Nazi superweapons]]. Jeffries tubes are {{Secret Underground Passage}}s. And the Klingons? Well, [[BlatantLies some residents of her town are a bit eccentric.]]
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: Brigitte is pregnant because actress Roxann Dawson was pregnant at the time (normally [[HideYourPregnancy covered by an Engineer's smock]]). PlayedForLaughs when B'Elanna [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall gripes to Tom about the intense realism]] of the 'simulated' pregnancy (including that it kicks).
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: Brigitte is pregnant because actress Roxann Dawson was pregnant at the time (normally [[HideYourPregnancy covered by an Engineer's smock]]). PlayedForLaughs This becomes LeaningOnTheFourthWall when B'Elanna [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall gripes to Tom about the intense realism]] realism of the 'simulated' pregnancy (including that it kicks).pregnancy.
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* FaceRevealingTurn: Seven as a lounge singer and Janeway as the proprietor of ''Le Coeur de Lion''.
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* FaceRevealingTurn: We see the flowing blonde hair of TheChanteuse before she turns her head to reveal it's Seven as a lounge singer and of Nine. Likewise with Janeway as the proprietor of ''Le Coeur de Lion''.
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* ToBeContinued in Part Two.
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* ToBeContinued in [[TwoPartEpisode Part Two.Two]].
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: Roxann Dawson's real life pregnancy is used as a key plot point in the Nazi simulation, as Torres' character Bridgette, a member of the [[LaResistance local resistance]], is carrying the Kapitan's child.
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: Brigitte is pregnant because actress Roxann Dawson's real life Dawson was pregnant at the time (normally [[HideYourPregnancy covered by an Engineer's smock]]). PlayedForLaughs when B'Elanna [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall gripes to Tom about the intense realism]] of the 'simulated' pregnancy is used as a key plot point in the Nazi simulation, as Torres' character Bridgette, a member of the [[LaResistance local resistance]], is carrying the Kapitan's child.(including that it kicks).
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: There's a reason Brigitte is pregnant, given that actress Roxann Dawson was pregnant at the time (normally [[HideYourPregnancy covered by an Engineer's smock]]). PlayedForLaughs when B'Elanna [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall gripes to Tom about the intense realism]] of the 'simulated' pregnancy (including that it kicks).
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-->'''NEELIX:''' ''(addressing his officers)'' Pardon me, gentlemen. I wonder if I might have a word with you?
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-->'''DOCTOR:''' They're Klingons, not kittens!
-->'''NEELIX:''' ''(snatches away the meat they're eating)'' YOU WILL LISTEN!
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-->'''DOCTOR:''' They're Klingons, not kittens!
-->'''NEELIX:''' ''(snatches away the meat they're eating)'' YOU WILL LISTEN!
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* {{Pride}}: Seven flat-out refuses to sing for Turanj, even when threatened with death. In fact she delivers her own BadassBoast in return.
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-->'''Turanj''': I've become impatient. We [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs penetrated this vessel, overcame their defenses]], and in the moment of the kill, [[BondVillainStupidity you forced us to stop]]. Now we play these incessant games. It's time we took our trophies and moved on.\\
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-->'''Turanj''': I've become impatient. We [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs We penetrated this vessel, overcame their defenses]], and in the moment of the kill, [[BondVillainStupidity you forced us to stop]]. Now we play these incessant games. It's time we took our trophies and moved on.\\
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* ToBeContinued
* TookALevelInBadass: It's Harry Kim -- not [[SpotlightStealingSquad Janeway or Seven or the Doctor]] -- who first puts events into motion. As in "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS5E6Timeless Timeless]]", this terse, self-motivated Harry is a lot more interesting than his standard EnsignNewbie portrayal. [[StaticCharacter Pity they didn't keep it up]].
* TookALevelInBadass: It's Harry Kim -- not [[SpotlightStealingSquad Janeway or Seven or the Doctor]] -- who first puts events into motion. As in "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS5E6Timeless Timeless]]", this terse, self-motivated Harry is a lot more interesting than his standard EnsignNewbie portrayal. [[StaticCharacter Pity they didn't keep it up]].
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* ToBeContinued
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** It's Harry Kim -- not [[SpotlightStealingSquad Janeway or Seven or the Doctor]] -- who first puts events into motion. As in "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS5E6Timeless Timeless]]", this terse, self-motivated Harry is a lot more interesting than his standard EnsignNewbie portrayal. [[StaticCharacter Pity they didn't keep it up]].
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** It's Harry Kim -- not [[SpotlightStealingSquad Janeway or Seven or the Doctor]] -- who first puts events into motion. As in "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS5E6Timeless Timeless]]", this terse, self-motivated Harry is a lot more interesting than his standard EnsignNewbie portrayal. [[StaticCharacter Pity they didn't keep it up]].
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* BlastingItOutOfTheirHands: Turanj shoots the pistol out of Mademoiselle de Neuf's hand, though it's not clear if this was intentional; none of the Hirogen (except possibly Karr, and only for pragmatic reasons) are much interested in preserving the lives of the crew. He puts a bullet in her and Neelix moments later, and nearly kills her despite ordering his companion to "avoid the cranium".
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* BlastingItOutOfTheirHands: BlastingItOutOfTheirHands:
** Turanj shoots the pistol out of Mademoiselle de Neuf's hand, though it's not clear if this was intentional; none of the Hirogen (except possibly Karr, and only for pragmatic reasons) are much interested in preserving the lives of the crew. He puts a bullet in her and Neelix moments later, and nearly kills her despite ordering his companion to "avoid the cranium".
** Turanj shoots the pistol out of Mademoiselle de Neuf's hand, though it's not clear if this was intentional; none of the Hirogen (except possibly Karr, and only for pragmatic reasons) are much interested in preserving the lives of the crew. He puts a bullet in her and Neelix moments later, and nearly kills her despite ordering his companion to "avoid the cranium".
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* TheCastShowOff: That's Jeri Ryan singing for real, not lip syncing.
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* TheCastShowOff: That's Jeri Ryan Creator/JeriRyan singing for real, not lip syncing.
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** Jeri Ryan Creator/JeriRyan with her hair down, singing "Would it be wrong to kiss…"
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-->"One day the Borg will assimilate your species despite your arrogance. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome When that moment arrives, remember me]]."
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-->"One day the Borg will assimilate your species despite your arrogance. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome When that moment arrives, remember me]].me."
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* {{Costumer}}
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** When the Hirogen lose control of the holodeck program, Karr realises that Harry has committed sabotage and demands he fix it. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Harry tells him to go to hell.]]
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* [[DieHardOnAnX Die Hard on Voyager]]
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-->'''DOCTOR:''' [[CrowningMomentOfFunny They're Klingons, not kittens!]]
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-->'''DOCTOR:''' [[CrowningMomentOfFunny They're Klingons, not kittens!]]kittens!
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--> '''Holo Klingon''': Qapla!
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--> '''Holo Klingon''': Qapla! ''Qapla!''
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* SpotTheImposter: Every true American boy knows that Betty Grable has [[ShesGotLegs great gams]]. Fortunately Harry remembers the right answer before Tom shoots him.
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* SpotTheImposter: Every true American boy knows that Betty Grable Creator/BettyGrable has [[ShesGotLegs great gams]]. Fortunately Harry remembers the right answer before Tom shoots him.
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* DefiantToTheEnd: When the Hirogen lose control of the holodeck program, Karr realises that Harry has committed sabotage and demands he fix it. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Harry tells him to go to hell.]]
* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Neelix demanding a drink from his fellow Klingons. "I'm as dry as the crater at Tarpahk. In the middle of the dry season. When it's dry!"
* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Neelix demanding a drink from his fellow Klingons. "I'm as dry as the crater at Tarpahk. In the middle of the dry season. When it's dry!"
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** When the Hirogen lose control of the holodeck program, Karr realises that Harry has committed sabotage and demands he fix it. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Harry tells him to go to hell.]]
** Facing the barrel of a gun held by Turanj, Seven calmly tells him that one day, the Borg will assimilate his race.
* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Neelix demanding a drink from his fellowKlingons.Klingons (after he's already had a few too many). "I'm as dry as the crater at Tarpahk. In the middle of the dry season. When it's dry!"
** When the Hirogen lose control of the holodeck program, Karr realises that Harry has committed sabotage and demands he fix it. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Harry tells him to go to hell.]]
** Facing the barrel of a gun held by Turanj, Seven calmly tells him that one day, the Borg will assimilate his race.
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--> '''Karr:''' ''(to Janeway)'' You are a resilient species. I admire your cunning.
--> '''Karr:''' ''(to Janeway)'' You are a resilient species. I admire your cunning.
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* EvilSoundsDeep: The Hirogen Alpha, courtesy of Danny Goldring. {{Subverted}}, however, in that he proves to be one of the ''least'' evil Hirogen and the most willing to negotiate with Janeway.
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* GoodAllAlong: Karr brainwashes the Voyager crew into becoming pawns in elaborate war games; killing them over and over again, only for the Doctor to revive them and send them back in to die. However, these acts of cruelty actually SAVED their lives by preventing the Hirogen from exterminating them on-mass. It also transpires that Karr was merely experimenting with the ship's holographic technology in order to provide his people with an alternative to actually dispersing themselves across the galaxy and hunting real prey, thereby saving the protagonists' lives along with the lives of the Hirogen themselves. Even Janeway herself admits that his intentions are in everyone's best interests.
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* GoodAllAlong: At least, for a somewhat loose definition of "good". Karr brainwashes the Voyager crew into becoming pawns in elaborate war games; killing them over and over again, only for the Doctor to revive them and send them back in to die. However, these acts of cruelty actually SAVED their lives by preventing the Hirogen from exterminating them on-mass. It also transpires that Karr was merely experimenting with the ship's holographic technology in order to provide his people with an alternative to actually dispersing themselves across the galaxy and hunting real prey, thereby saving the protagonists' lives along with the lives of the Hirogen themselves. Even Janeway herself admits that his intentions are in everyone's best interests.
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: There's a reason Brigitte is pregnant, given that actress Roxann Dawson was pregnant at the time (normally [[HideYourPregnancy covered by an Engineer's smock]]). PlayedForLaughs when B'Elanna [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall gripes to Tom about the intense realism]] of the 'simulated' pregnancy (including that it kicks).