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* RememberTheNewGuy: The viewer is supposed to care that a bunch of red-shirts died for a change, so they make sure to kiss their asses from the theme song to the end credits.

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* RememberTheNewGuy: The viewer is supposed We are introduced to care that a bunch of red-shirts died for a change, so they make sure to kiss their asses new security detail fresh from the theme song to the end credits.academy. Averted with Munoz we we meet a few episodes prior.
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* MandatoryLine: Kira, Odo, Quark, and Bashir have a short and completely pointless scene with no relevance to the plot.
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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: O'Brien wasn't exaggerating, Muñiz. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mourne_Mountains Ireland]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Errigal does have]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrauntoohil mountains]].

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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: AluminumChristmasTrees: O'Brien wasn't exaggerating, Muñiz. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mourne_Mountains Ireland]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Errigal does have]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrauntoohil mountains]].
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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: O'Brien wasn't exaggerating, Muñiz. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mourne_Mountains Ireland]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Errigal does have]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrauntoohil mountains]].
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* BrokenAesop: The episode insists that the casualties on both sides could've been avoided if they had all just trusted each other. However, Sisko invokes the runabout crew (who were destroyed the moment Kilana's Jem'Hadar arrived), and T'Lor and Muñiz (killed and mortally wounded, respectively, before any negotiations had begun).

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* BrokenAesop: The episode insists that the casualties on both sides could've been avoided if they had all just trusted each other. However, Sisko invokes the runabout crew (who were destroyed the moment Kilana's Jem'Hadar arrived), and T'Lor and Muñiz (killed and mortally wounded, respectively, before any negotiations had begun). It may be taken, however, that Sisko at least partially meant that the second Jem'Hadar ship opening fire upon arrival (and the Jem'Hadar warriors assaulting the crew on the ground) had soured any potential negotiations afterward.
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: At the heart of the episode. Neither side is willing to believe the other has anything but the worst intentions, and will not extend any measure of trust towards the other. This results in the deaths of the runabout crew, the Changeling, the Jem'Hadar crew, and probably Kilana after she returns the Founder's remains.
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* DrivenToSuicide: The Jem'Hadar kill themselves over allowing a Founder to die.
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* ICantFeelMyLegs: Muñiz, as he gets worse.


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* OhCrap: Everyone's reaction when the runabout is shot down.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: During their initial meeting, Kilana name-drops Weyoun, mentioning to Sisko that she's read the psych profile Weyoun did on him. Weyoun 4 died during season four's To The Death, but as the Vorta are all clones, Weyoun 5 will show up near the end of the season.
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* TalkingToTheDead: O'Brien tells Muñiz's coffin about how they finally freed the Jem'Hadar ship.
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* DrivenToSuicide: All of Kilana's Jem'Hadar after the Founder dies.

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* DispenseWithThePleasantries: Sisko puts an end to Kilana's attempt at flattery.



* ThroughHisStomach: Kilana offers to share some snacks with Sisko. He refuses.



-->"I know it's hot. We're filthy, tired, and we've got ten isontons of explosives going off outside. But we will never get out of this if we don't pull it together and start to act like professionals!"

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-->"I know it's hot. We're filthy, tired, and we've got ten isontons isotons of explosives going off outside. But we will never get out of this if we don't pull it together and start to act like professionals!"
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* ComingInHot: The Jem'Hadar warship at the beginning.


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* InertialDampening: Failed on the Jem'Hadar warship, with fatal consequences for the crew.


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* PunishmentDetail: O'Brien jokingly suggests transferring Muñiz to waste extraction after a quip about O'Brien being old.
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* DueToTheDead: At the end of the episode, O'Brien is watching over Muñiz's body. Worf enters and likens the practice to ''ak'voh'', an old Klingon custom of safeguarding the body of those entering Sto-vo-kor. He then sits beside O'Brien.

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* DueToTheDead: With a dash of [[InTheOriginalKlingon in the original Klingon]] thrown in by Worf. At the end of the episode, O'Brien is watching over Muñiz's body. Worf enters and likens the practice to ''ak'voh'', an old Klingon custom of safeguarding the body of those entering Sto-vo-kor. He then sits beside O'Brien.
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** Also, throughout the episode, he calls O'Brien "''jefe''," which can mean "chief" or "boss."
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* TheyKnewTheRisks: Jadzia says this to Sisko about the five dead Starfleeters. It doesn't make it any easier for him to accept their deaths.
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** Sisko allows Kilana to take some of the Founder's remains with her.
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** PlayedStraight with O'Brien and Muñiz.


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* FromDressToDressing: O'Brien sacrifices his uniform's sleeves in a futile attempt to stop Muñiz from bleeding.
* GratuitousSpanish: A more dramatic example than most--as Muñiz nears the end, he starts hallucinating that he's watching fireworks with his father and reverts to Spanish.
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* WeCouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: Invoked by Sisko when he said this whole thing could have been avoided if the two sides trusted each other a little more.
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* WeCouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: Invoked by Sisko when he said this whole thing could have been avoided if the two sides trusted each other a little more.
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* DontCallMeSir: {{Inverted}}--Kilana tries to get on a FirstNameBasis with Sisko, but he shuts her down.

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* ActorAllusion: O'Brien and Muñiz's exchange about Ireland's hills and no mountains references Colm Meaney's role in ''Film/TheEnglishmanWhoWentUpAHillButCameDownAMountain''.



* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: [[spoiler: At the heart of the episode. Neither side is willing to believe the other has anything but the worst intentions, and will not extend any measure of trust towards the other. This results in the deaths of the runabout crew, the Changeling, the Jem'Hadar crew, and probably Kilana after she returns the Founder's remains.]]

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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: [[spoiler: At the heart of the episode. Neither side is willing to believe the other has anything but the worst intentions, and will not extend any measure of trust towards the other. This results in the deaths of the runabout crew, the Changeling, the Jem'Hadar crew, and probably Kilana after she returns the Founder's remains.]]



* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler:The Jem'Hadar kill themselves over allowing a Founder to die]].

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* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler:The The Jem'Hadar kill themselves over allowing a Founder to die]].die.



* ObfuscatingStupidity: [[spoiler:Kilana initially says this is her first mission, but Sisko later realizes this was a lie to get him to underestimate her.]]

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* ObfuscatingStupidity: [[spoiler:Kilana Kilana initially says this is her first mission, but Sisko later realizes this was a lie to get him to underestimate her.]]



* PoorCommunicationKills: [[spoiler:The Founder aboard the ship could've been saved if Kilana had been upfront with Sisko immediately]].

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* PoorCommunicationKills: [[spoiler:The The Founder aboard the ship could've been saved if Kilana had been upfront with Sisko immediately]].immediately.



* RememberTheNewGuy: The viewer is supposed to care that a bunch of red-shirts died for a change, so they make sure to kiss their asses from the theme song to the end credits.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: This was the second time the producers wanted to bring back Eris, the very first Vorta encountered back in "The Jem'Hadar," but her actress, Molly Hagan, was again unavailable.



* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Sisko appears quite offended when Kilana says he would've [[spoiler:killed the Founder or taken it hostage]].

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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Sisko appears quite offended when Kilana says he would've [[spoiler:killed killed the Founder or taken it hostage]].hostage.
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: [[spoiler: At the heart of the episode. Neither side is willing to believe the other has anything but the worst intentions, and will not extend any measure of trust towards the other. This results in the deaths of the runabout crew, the Changeling, the Jem'Hadar crew, and probably Kilana after she returns the Founder's remains.]]
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* RedShirt: {{Subverted}}. Several random crew members are killed (including MauveShirt Muñiz), but at the end of the episode Sisko reads off the list of the dead and reminisces about them. It shows that, even if their deaths only serve to excite the audience, for the surviving characters these people's lives and deaths ''matter''.

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* RedShirt: {{Subverted}}. Several random crew members are killed (including MauveShirt Muñiz), but at the end of the episode Sisko [[TheDeadHaveNames reads off the list of the dead and reminisces about them.them]]. It shows that, even if their deaths only serve to excite the audience, for the surviving characters these people's lives and deaths ''matter''.
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It isn\'t really the first time; at the very least the TNG episode \"The Bonding\" had already addressed the emotional impact of Redshirt deaths


* RedShirt: {{Subverted}}. Several random crew members are killed (including MauveShirt Muñiz), but at the end of the episode Sisko reads off the list of the dead and reminisces about them. It shows that, even if their deaths only serve to excite the audience, for the surviving characters these people's lives and deaths ''matter''. (This was the first time something like this had been done on ''Franchise/StarTrek''.)

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* RedShirt: {{Subverted}}. Several random crew members are killed (including MauveShirt Muñiz), but at the end of the episode Sisko reads off the list of the dead and reminisces about them. It shows that, even if their deaths only serve to excite the audience, for the surviving characters these people's lives and deaths ''matter''. (This was the first time something like this had been done on ''Franchise/StarTrek''.)

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* ActorAllusion: O'Brien and Muñiz's exchange about Ireland's hills and no mountains references Colm Meaney's role in ''Film/TheEnglishmanWhoWentUpAHillButCameDownAMountain''.
* BrokenAesop: The episode insists that the casualties on both sides could've been avoided if they had all just trusted each other. However, Sisko invokes the runabout crew (who were destroyed the moment Kilana's Jem'Hadar arrived), and T'Lor and Muñiz (killed and mortally wounded, respectively, before any negotiations had begun).
* CruelAndUnusualDeath: Muñiz is shot by a Jem'Hadar. The wound appears minor, but bleeding persists until he slowly bleeds to death. Even Worf remarks what horrible way to die it is.
* DueToTheDead: At the end of the episode, O'Brien is watching over Muñiz's body. Worf enters and likens the practice to ''ak'voh'', an old Klingon custom of safeguarding the body of those entering Sto-vo-kor. He then sits beside O'Brien.
-->'''Worf:''' We will both keep the predators away.\\
'''O'Brien:''' I'm sure Quique would have liked that.
* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler:The Jem'Hadar kill themselves over allowing a Founder to die]].



* RedShirt: {{Subverted}}. Several random crewmembers are killed (including MauveShirt Muniz), but at the end of the episode Sisko reads off the list of the dead and reminisces about them. It shows that, even if their deaths only serve to excite the audience, for the surviving characters these people's lives and deaths ''matter''. (This was the first time something like this had been done on ''Franchise/StarTrek''.)
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: This was the second time the producers wanted to bring back Eris, the very first Vorta encountered back in "The Jem'Hadar," but her actress, Molly Hagan, was again unavailable.

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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: As O'Brien is treating him, Muñiz calls him "sir." When O'Brien doesn't react, Muñiz knows his condition really is bad.
* PoorCommunicationKills: [[spoiler:The Founder aboard the ship could've been saved if Kilana had been upfront with Sisko immediately]].
* RedShirt: {{Subverted}}. Several random crewmembers crew members are killed (including MauveShirt Muniz), Muñiz), but at the end of the episode Sisko reads off the list of the dead and reminisces about them. It shows that, even if their deaths only serve to excite the audience, for the surviving characters these people's lives and deaths ''matter''. (This was the first time something like this had been done on ''Franchise/StarTrek''.)
* VitriolicBestBuds: O'Brien and Muñiz good-naturedly insult each other.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: This was the second time the producers wanted to bring back Eris, the very first Vorta encountered back in "The Jem'Hadar," but her actress, Molly Hagan, was again unavailable.unavailable.
* WhatTheHellHero: Sisko, as tempers flare amongst the crew.
-->"I know it's hot. We're filthy, tired, and we've got ten isontons of explosives going off outside. But we will never get out of this if we don't pull it together and start to act like professionals!"
* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Sisko appears quite offended when Kilana says he would've [[spoiler:killed the Founder or taken it hostage]].
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* RedShirt: {{Subverted}}. Several random crewmembers are killed (including MauveShirt Muniz), but at the end of the episode Sisko reads off the list of the dead and reminisces about them. It shows that, even if their deaths only serve to excite the audience, for the surviving characters these people's lives and deaths ''matter''. (This was the first time something like this had been done on ''StarTrek''.)

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* RedShirt: {{Subverted}}. Several random crewmembers are killed (including MauveShirt Muniz), but at the end of the episode Sisko reads off the list of the dead and reminisces about them. It shows that, even if their deaths only serve to excite the audience, for the surviving characters these people's lives and deaths ''matter''. (This was the first time something like this had been done on ''StarTrek''.''Franchise/StarTrek''.)
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* RedShirt: {{Subverted}}. Several random crewmembers are killed (including MauveShirt Muniz), but at the end of the episode Sisko reads off the list of the dead and reminisces about them. It shows that, even if their deaths only serve to excite the audience, for the surviving characters these people's lives and deaths ''matter''. (This was the first time something like this had been done on ''StarTrek''.)
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During a planetary survey in the Gamma Quadrant, Sisko and the others find a crashed Jem'Hadar ship. Sisko decides they must return with this ship, which could provide vital information about Dominion technology. But a Jem'Hadar recovery team and their Vorta leader are unusually determined to prevent this, leading Sisko to wonder what further secrets the ship might hold.

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During a planetary survey in the Gamma Quadrant, Sisko and the others find a crashed Jem'Hadar ship. Sisko decides they must return with this ship, which could provide vital information about Dominion technology. But a Jem'Hadar recovery team and their Vorta leader are unusually determined to prevent this, leading Sisko to wonder what further secrets the ship might hold.hold.

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* MsFanservice: The Vorta, Kilana, wears a rather cleavagey outfit.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: [[spoiler:Kilana initially says this is her first mission, but Sisko later realizes this was a lie to get him to underestimate her.]]
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: This was the second time the producers wanted to bring back Eris, the very first Vorta encountered back in "The Jem'Hadar," but her actress, Molly Hagan, was again unavailable.
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During a planetary survey in the Gamma Quadrant, Sisko and the others find a crashed Jem'Hadar ship. Sisko decides they must return with this ship, which could provide vital information about Dominion technology. But a Jem'Hadar recovery team and their Vorta leader are unusually determined to prevent this, leading Sisko to wonder what further secrets the ship might hold.

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