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Rm, this turned out to be not true in season 2


** Played straight at the very end of the episode; the character developments and personal relationships of the TVA-affiliated main characters, such as Mobius and B-15, were completely reset thanks to Kang taking over the TVA in the absence of He Who Remains.
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* RuleOfSymbolism: After He Who Remains takes off his TemPad, he slides it forwards on his desk towards Loki and Sylvie and then keeps his hand there as he talks to the duo while the camera slowly zooms in on him at the same level as the desk, almost making it look like the TemPad is still on his hand. In taking off the TemPad, he might be giving Loki and Sylvie the choice to act freely, but he is still in absolute control of the situation.

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* RuleOfSymbolism: After He Who Remains takes off his TemPad, [=TemPad=], he slides it forwards on his desk towards Loki and Sylvie and then keeps his hand there as he talks to the duo while the camera slowly zooms in on him at the same level as the desk, almost making it look like the TemPad [=TemPad=] is still on his hand. In taking off the TemPad, [=TemPad=], he might be giving Loki and Sylvie the choice to act freely, but he is still in absolute control of the situation.
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* RuleOfSymbolism: After He Who Remains takes off his TemPad, he slides it forwards on his desk towards Loki and Sylvie and then keeps his hand there as he talks to the duo while the camera slowly zooms in on him at the same level as the desk, almost making it look like the TemPad is still on his hand. In taking off the TemPad, he might be giving Loki and Sylvie the choice to act freely, but he is still in absolute control of the situation.
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* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Part of the problem at the end between Loki and Sylvie regarding settling the issue with He Who Remains and what he's been saying is, as Loki says, "You can't trust, and I can't be trusted".
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** Sylvie gets what she wanted, finally killing He Who Remains... but it doesn't make her feel better, and because she sent away Loki due to him trying to prevent her revenge at the last minute, she's left alone at the end of time with seemingly no way out and nothing left to do. Adding in that she may have realized He Who Remains ''was'' maybe telling the truth all along, and that there could be another multiversal war. She reacts to finally killing He Who Remains not with triumph, but [[BleedEmAndWeep broken weeping]].

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** Sylvie gets what she wanted, finally killing He Who Remains... but it doesn't make her feel better, and because she sent away Loki due to him trying to prevent her revenge at the last minute, she's left alone at the end of time with seemingly no way out and nothing left to do. Adding in that she may have realized He Who Remains ''was'' maybe telling the truth all along, and that there could be another multiversal war. She reacts to finally killing He Who Remains not with triumph, but [[BleedEmAndWeep broken weeping]].
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* PyrrhicVictory: Sylvie murders He Who Remains, avenging her timeline and the life that was taken from her. However, she is now left alone at the end of existence, the TVA is being controlled by an evil variant of him, the multiversal war has been re-ignited, the timelines are branching out at an uncontrollable rate, no one at the TVA remembers Loki anymore, and she's [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone left with the realization that she made the wrong choice and that the revenge she gained wasn't worth what she lost]]

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* PyrrhicVictory: Sylvie murders He Who Remains, avenging her timeline and the life that was taken from her. However, she is now left alone at the end of existence, the TVA is being controlled by an evil variant of him, the multiversal war has been may be re-ignited, the timelines are branching out at an uncontrollable rate, no one at the TVA remembers Loki anymore, and she's [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone left with the realization that she made the wrong choice and that the revenge she gained wasn't worth what she lost]]
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* NecessarilyEvil: He Who Remains acknowledges that the Sacred Timeline and the TVA are stifling, heavy-handed, oppressive etc, but he insists that they are also necessary to prevent destruction on a cosmic scale. Though erasing variants and their branches for arbitrary differences seems highly unethical, it's the only way to prevent his own variants from emerging and fighting for control over the multiverse.

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* NecessarilyEvil: He Who Remains acknowledges that the Sacred Timeline and the TVA are stifling, heavy-handed, oppressive etc, but he insists that they are also necessary to prevent destruction on a cosmic scale. Though erasing variants and their branches for arbitrary differences seems highly unethical, he claims it's the only way to prevent his own variants from emerging and fighting for control over the multiverse.
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* HistoryRepeats: It's revealed that the [[GreatOffscreenWar Multiversal War]] referenced in [[Recap/LokiEpisode1GloriousPurpose "Glorious Purpose"]] was actually a conflict between the variants of He Who Remains, the last of whom created the TVA and the Sacred Timeline to prevent other variants of himself from coming into conflict. After Sylvie kills him, the timelines branch out and it's implied that the variants of He Who Remains have re-emerged and gone to war with each other all over again, once again resulting in one of the variants taking control of the TVA.

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* HistoryRepeats: It's revealed that the [[GreatOffscreenWar Multiversal War]] referenced in [[Recap/LokiEpisode1GloriousPurpose "Glorious Purpose"]] was actually a conflict between the variants of He Who Remains, the last of whom created the TVA and the Sacred Timeline to prevent other variants of himself from coming into conflict. After Sylvie kills him, the timelines continue to branch out and it's implied that the variants of He Who Remains have re-emerged and gone to war with each other all over again, once again resulting in one of the variants taking control of the TVA.



* {{Irony}}: In the previous episode, Loki promised that he wouldn't betray Sylvie only for her to betray his trust by depriving him of choice and sending him back to the TVA after kissing him so she could go through with killing He Who Remains.

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* {{Irony}}: In the previous episode, Loki promised that he wouldn't betray Sylvie only for him to (unintentionlly) basically do just that, especially in her to betray his trust view, by depriving him of choice and sending him pulling back to on the TVA after kissing him so she could go through with killing He Who Remains.plan to kill whoever was in charge of the TVA.
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* Catch22Dilemma: He Who Remains presents this to Loki and Sylvie. They can either run the TVA and keep the Sacred Timeline intact or they can kill him and let other, less benevolent versions of him, take over and throw the multiverse into chaos. Either way the TVA won't die with him and they'll still be stuck outside their timelines. Sylvie, too consumed by vengeance, goes for the latter and... well ended up proving exactly what he said would happen.
* AChatWithSatan: Loki and Sylvie meet He Who Remains, an ancient omniscient being who calls himself a devil and offers them a SadisticChoice of either ruling the TVA together or killing him and causing a multiversal war.

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* Catch22Dilemma: He Who Remains presents this to Loki and Sylvie. They can either run the TVA and keep the Sacred Timeline intact or they can kill him and let other, less benevolent versions of him, take over and throw the multiverse into chaos. Either way the TVA won't die with him and they'll still be stuck outside their timelines. Sylvie, too consumed by vengeance, goes for the latter and... well ended up proving exactly what he said would happen.
* AChatWithSatan: Loki and Sylvie meet He Who Remains, an ancient omniscient near-omniscient being who calls himself a devil and offers them a SadisticChoice of either ruling the TVA together or killing him and causing a multiversal war.
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** Sylvie gets what she wanted, finally killing He Who Remains... but it doesn't make her feel better, and because she ended up betraying Loki due to not trusting him, she's left alone at the end of time with seemingly no way out and nothing left to do. Adding in that she may have realized He Who Remains ''was'' actually telling the truth all along, and that she made the wrong choice and re-started the multiversal war for no reason. She reacts to finally killing He Who Remains not with triumph, but [[BleedEmAndWeep broken weeping]].

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** Sylvie gets what she wanted, finally killing He Who Remains... but it doesn't make her feel better, and because she ended up betraying sent away Loki due to not trusting him, him trying to prevent her revenge at the last minute, she's left alone at the end of time with seemingly no way out and nothing left to do. Adding in that she may have realized He Who Remains ''was'' actually maybe telling the truth all along, and that she made the wrong choice and re-started the there could be another multiversal war for no reason.war. She reacts to finally killing He Who Remains not with triumph, but [[BleedEmAndWeep broken weeping]].



* AlwaysABiggerFish: Sylvie killing He Who Remains and causing the timelines to branch merely opens the door for his variants, [[FromBadToWorse some of whom are implied to be even more malevolent and dangerous]], to emerge and fight for control of the multiverse.

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* AlwaysABiggerFish: Sylvie killing He Who Remains and causing the timelines to branch merely opens the door for his variants, [[FromBadToWorse some of whom are implied to be even more malevolent and dangerous]], to emerge and fight for control of the multiverse.
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* PyrrhicVictory: Sylvie murders He Who Remains, avenging her timeline and the life that was taken from her. However, she is now left alone at the end of existence, the TVA is being controlled by a variant of him, the multiversal war has been re-ignited, the timelines are branching out at an uncontrollable rate, and no one at the TVA remembers Loki anymore.

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* PyrrhicVictory: Sylvie murders He Who Remains, avenging her timeline and the life that was taken from her. However, she is now left alone at the end of existence, the TVA is being controlled by a an evil variant of him, the multiversal war has been re-ignited, the timelines are branching out at an uncontrollable rate, and no one at the TVA remembers Loki anymore.anymore, and she's [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone left with the realization that she made the wrong choice and that the revenge she gained wasn't worth what she lost]]
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* NecessaryEvil: He Who Remains acknowledges that the Sacred Timeline and the TVA are stifling, heavy-handed, oppressive etc, but he insists that they are also necessary to prevent destruction on a cosmic scale. Though erasing variants and their branches for arbitrary differences seems highly unethical, it's the only way to prevent his own variants from emerging and fighting for control over the multiverse.

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* NecessaryEvil: NecessarilyEvil: He Who Remains acknowledges that the Sacred Timeline and the TVA are stifling, heavy-handed, oppressive etc, but he insists that they are also necessary to prevent destruction on a cosmic scale. Though erasing variants and their branches for arbitrary differences seems highly unethical, it's the only way to prevent his own variants from emerging and fighting for control over the multiverse.



* NothingPersonal: He Who Remains tells Sylvie that what happened to her wasn't personal and was simply a NecessaryEvil to protect the timeline. She [[ItsPersonal doesn't feel the same way]].

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* NothingPersonal: He Who Remains tells Sylvie that what happened to her wasn't personal and was simply a NecessaryEvil NecessarilyEvil to protect the timeline. She [[ItsPersonal doesn't feel the same way]].

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