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** Aemond baiting Jace and Luke by commenting on their paternity with PlausibleDeniability words and then letting them prove it true my responding aggressively is the exact same thing Criston did with Harwin back in [[Recap/HouseOfTheDragonS1E6ThePrincessAndTheQueen episode 6]].
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* PlotParallel: Viserys is on his last legs and a SuccessionCrisis looms. Meanwhile, a Velaryon SuccessionCrisis is playing out right now, giving a taste of what's to come.
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* PlotParallel: PlotParallel:
** Viserys is on his last legs and a SuccessionCrisis looms. Meanwhile, a Velaryon SuccessionCrisis is playing out right now, giving a taste of what's tocome.come.
** Syrax has just laid 3 new eggs, while Rhaenyra and Daemon have likewise conceived 3 children: Aegon, Viserys, and one on the way.
** Viserys is on his last legs and a SuccessionCrisis looms. Meanwhile, a Velaryon SuccessionCrisis is playing out right now, giving a taste of what's to
** Syrax has just laid 3 new eggs, while Rhaenyra and Daemon have likewise conceived 3 children: Aegon, Viserys, and one on the way.
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: One of Helaena's servant girls was raped by Prince Aegon. While rape is illegal on paper (we see Daemon have a man gelded for the crime in the first episode), in their world there isn't any precedent for powerful men being brought to task for their sexual misconduct against commoners. While Alicent is sympathetic to the girl's plight, and clearly furious with Aegon, her primary priority is to ensure it gets covered up (by [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything paying her off]] and giving her moon tea) to protect her son's reputation. Being a prince, Aegon's sole punishment is being reprimanded by his mother.
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: One of Helaena's servant girls was raped by Prince Aegon. While rape is illegal on paper (we see Daemon have a man gelded for the crime in the first episode), in their world there isn't any precedent for powerful men being brought to task for their sexual misconduct against commoners. If Aegon were arrogant or stupid enough to rape a ''noblewoman'', that would be a different matter. While Alicent is sympathetic to the lowborn girl's plight, and clearly furious with Aegon, her primary priority is to ensure it gets covered up (by [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything paying her off]] and giving her moon tea) to protect her son's reputation. Being a prince, Aegon's sole punishment is being reprimanded by his mother.
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Too much details, see Spoilers Off : mention only the details in the episode in question and not what specifically is being foreshadowed.
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** Helaena warns her family to "beware the beast beneath the boards," foreshadowing Rhaenys' actions during Aegon's coronation.
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** Helaena warns her family to "beware the beast beneath the boards," foreshadowing Rhaenys' actions during Aegon's coronation.next episode.
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** DownplayedTrope, but book!Vaemond's concerns about bloodlines aren't something most modern audiences can easy relate to or sympathize with. Show!Vaemond's distress at effectively seeing some white boys usurp his house by lying, while he has little recourse to stop it, makes the emotional weight behind his side more visceral and understandable.
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** DownplayedTrope, but book!Vaemond's concerns about bloodlines aren't something most modern audiences can easy easily relate to or sympathize with. Show!Vaemond's distress at effectively seeing some white boys usurp his house by lying, while he has little recourse to stop it, makes the emotional weight behind his side more visceral and understandable.
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Removed as it's a fan theory based on incorrect facts. The time between the nod and Vaemond's beheading is over 10min. Viserys had not even arrived yet. When Rhaenyra nods, you can see Daemon's fingers twitch at the same time while she's rubbing her rings. This is a mirror to an earlier scene where we see that Rhaenyra rubs her rings when anxious, and Daemon raised his hand to stop her and hold her hand to comfort her. The nod from Rhaenyra was in response to Daemon looking at her in concern, and he twitches back his reflex because he cannot hold her hand in that setting. This behavior is repeated later, during the dinner scene where tho they're not in focus, their hands are on-top each other on the table and they're stroking each other's fingers.
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** During the Velaryon inheritance hearing, there's a moment--subtle enough to miss the first time but clear upon {{Rewatch|Bonus}}--where Rhaenyra and Daemon lock eyes and then Rhaenyra gives a tiny little nod, signing off on Daemon's killing Vaemond before he does it. The dialogue: "Murder?" "Murder."
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* AdaptationalHeroism: In the book there's a scuffle between Alicent and Rhaenyra regarding maesters and Viserys's treatment. Here Rhaenyra initially accuses Alicent of mismanaging Viserys's treatment but then walks that accusation back, even thanking Alicent for her care after realizing that Viserys's health really is that bad and Alicent is handling it as best she can.
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* AdaptationalHeroism: AdaptationalHeroism:
** In the book Rhaenyra dispatches Daemon to kill Vaemond, then feeds his corpse to Syrax.
** In the book there's a scuffle between Alicent and Rhaenyra regarding maesters and Viserys's treatment. Here Rhaenyra initially accuses Alicent of mismanaging Viserys's treatment but then walks that accusation back, even thanking Alicent for her care after realizing that Viserys's health really is that bad and Alicent is handling it as best shecan.can.
** DownplayedTrope, but book!Vaemond's concerns about bloodlines aren't something most modern audiences can easy relate to or sympathize with. Show!Vaemond's distress at effectively seeing some white boys usurp his house by lying, while he has little recourse to stop it, makes the emotional weight behind his side more visceral and understandable.
** In the book Rhaenyra dispatches Daemon to kill Vaemond, then feeds his corpse to Syrax.
** In the book there's a scuffle between Alicent and Rhaenyra regarding maesters and Viserys's treatment. Here Rhaenyra initially accuses Alicent of mismanaging Viserys's treatment but then walks that accusation back, even thanking Alicent for her care after realizing that Viserys's health really is that bad and Alicent is handling it as best she
** DownplayedTrope, but book!Vaemond's concerns about bloodlines aren't something most modern audiences can easy relate to or sympathize with. Show!Vaemond's distress at effectively seeing some white boys usurp his house by lying, while he has little recourse to stop it, makes the emotional weight behind his side more visceral and understandable.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: A sickly Viserys briefly [[ThoroughlyMistakenIdentity mistakes Rhaenyra for Alicent]] and she gently corrects him. Near the end of the episode, he makes the reverse mistake, except this time Alicent doesn't realize it and Viserys refers to a conversation she previously wasn't privy to, and the consequences are far more severe.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: {{Foreshadowing}}:
** A sickly Viserys briefly [[ThoroughlyMistakenIdentity mistakes Rhaenyra for Alicent]] and she gently corrects him. Near the end of the episode, he makes the reverse mistake, except this time Alicent doesn't realize it and Viserys refers to a conversation she previously wasn't privy to, and the consequences are far moresevere.severe.
** Helaena warns her family to "beware the beast beneath the boards," foreshadowing Rhaenys' actions during Aegon's coronation.
** A sickly Viserys briefly [[ThoroughlyMistakenIdentity mistakes Rhaenyra for Alicent]] and she gently corrects him. Near the end of the episode, he makes the reverse mistake, except this time Alicent doesn't realize it and Viserys refers to a conversation she previously wasn't privy to, and the consequences are far more
** Helaena warns her family to "beware the beast beneath the boards," foreshadowing Rhaenys' actions during Aegon's coronation.
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* PuppetKing: With Viserys incapacitated, Alicent and Otto have been effectively ruling the kingdom in his place. Daemon and Rhaenyra initially think this is an InvokedTrope, but after spending more time with Viserys and getting a clearer picture of his condition, Rhaenyra realizes it's at most an ExploitedTrope -- Viserys's condition really is ''that bad'' and this is actually a fairly appropriate course of treatment.
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* PuppetKing: With Viserys incapacitated, Alicent and Otto have been effectively ruling the kingdom in his place. Daemon and Rhaenyra initially think this is an InvokedTrope, but after spending more time with Viserys and getting a clearer picture of his condition, Rhaenyra realizes it's at most an ExploitedTrope -- Viserys's condition really is ''that bad'' and this is actually a fairly appropriate course of treatment. And Viserys himself [[DefiedTrope defies]] it with his painfully dignified limp to the Iron Throne to rule on the succession crisis in person- Alicent and Otto can plot and scheme all they want, but while he still draws breath '''he''' is the king.
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* CallForward: After learning that Rhaenyra has named her youngest son after him, King Viserys jokes that Viserys is a good name for a king.
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** After learning that Rhaenyra has named her youngest son after him, King Viserys jokes that Viserys is a good name for a king.
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* CobwebOfDisuse: Viserys's model Valyrian city hasn't been tended to in a long time, signifying he's too frail for even his beloved pet project.
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* PlotParallel: Viserys is on his last legs and a SuccessionCrisis looms. Meanwhile, a Velaryon SuccessionCrisis is playing out right now, giving a taste of what's to come.
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"handsome" isn't a character trait
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* StealthInsult: In his toast to his nephews, Aemond calls them "strong" among other positive character traits. It's painfully clear to everyone what he means but just barely subtle enough that he still has PlausibleDeniability.
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* StealthInsult: In his toast to his nephews, Aemond calls them "strong" among other positive character traits. It's painfully clear to everyone what he means but just barely subtle enough that he still has PlausibleDeniability.
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** The organic tissue sack that Daemon retrieves dragon eggs from was directly inspired by ''Film/{{Alien}}, as confirmed in the behind the scenes video by the the production team.
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** The organic tissue sack that Daemon retrieves dragon eggs from was directly inspired by ''Film/{{Alien}}, ''Film/{{Alien}}'', as confirmed in the behind the scenes video by the the production team.
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* DeathlyUnmasking: At some point, Viserys removes his golden half-mask to reveal the half of his face that rotted away (and his empty eye socket). He passes away at the end of the episode.
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* BigEntrance: Viserys' entrance into the throne room. Just as the matter seems hopeless for Rhaenyra and her children, the doors are unexpectedly thrown open, and the king is announced. The fact that he's scarred, bent, and hobbling all the way to the throne only adds to the drama and anticipation. Triumphant music plays as he hobbles to the throne.
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* BigEntrance: Viserys' entrance into the throne room. Just as the matter seems hopeless for Rhaenyra and her children, the doors are unexpectedly thrown open, and the king King is announced. The fact that he's scarred, bent, and hobbling all the way to the throne only adds to the drama and anticipation. Triumphant and poignant music plays as he hobbles to the throne.
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* MundaneMadeAwesome: A crippled old man enters a room in the middle of a debate and limps his way to the iron chair. Doesn't exactly sound like Homerian epic. But the moment becomes an incredibly powerful scene as the king makes a last political statment just by walking, gathering his remaining forces to reach the throne and command his power one last time, refusing the help of his guards but accepting his brother support, in a touching moment of love, respect and unity. It's jaw-dropping for courtiers and viewers alike.
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** In the behind the scenes video, the production team admits that the organic tissue sack that Daemon retrieves dragon eggs from was directly inspired by ''Film/{{Alien}}''.
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** In the behind the scenes video, the production team admits that the The organic tissue sack that Daemon retrieves dragon eggs from was directly inspired by ''Film/{{Alien}}''.''Film/{{Alien}}, as confirmed in the behind the scenes video by the the production team.
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: One of Helaena's servant girls was raped by Prince Aegon. While rape is illegal on paper, in their world there isn't any precedent for powerful men being brought to task for their sexual misconduct against commoners. While Alicent is sympathetic to the girl's plight, and clearly furious with Aegon, her primary priority is to ensure it gets covered up (by [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything paying her off]] and giving her moon tea) to protect her son's reputation. Being a prince, Aegon's sole punishment is being reprimanded by his mother.
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: One of Helaena's servant girls was raped by Prince Aegon. While rape is illegal on paper, paper (we see Daemon have a man gelded for the crime in the first episode), in their world there isn't any precedent for powerful men being brought to task for their sexual misconduct against commoners. While Alicent is sympathetic to the girl's plight, and clearly furious with Aegon, her primary priority is to ensure it gets covered up (by [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything paying her off]] and giving her moon tea) to protect her son's reputation. Being a prince, Aegon's sole punishment is being reprimanded by his mother.
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This just restates the line in the example. quotes are best when they add something
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-->'''Alicent:''' You are no son of mine.
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* LousyLoversAreLosers: DiscussedTrope. When Aegon propositions Baela, he alludes to the idea that her betrothed Jace is bad in bed because he's a loser.
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* LousyLoversAreLosers: DiscussedTrope. When Aegon propositions Baela, he alludes to the idea that her betrothed Jace is bad in bed because he's a loser. He pairs this with VirginShaming of Jace.
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* VirginShaming: Aegon assumes that Jace is a virgin, and that as such he'd be bad in bed and LousyLoversAreLosers.
-->'''Aegon:''' Well done, Jace. You'll finally get to lie with a woman. You do know how the act is done, I assume? At least in principle? Where to put your cock and all that?
-->'''Aegon:''' Well done, Jace. You'll finally get to lie with a woman. You do know how the act is done, I assume? At least in principle? Where to put your cock and all that?
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* LousyLoversAreLosers: DiscussedTrope. When Aegon propositions Baela, he alludes to the idea that her betrothed Jace is bad in bed because he's a loser.
-->'''Aegon:''' I regret the disappointment you are soon to suffer. But if you ever wish to know what it is to be well satisfied, all you have to do is ask.
-->'''Aegon:''' I regret the disappointment you are soon to suffer. But if you ever wish to know what it is to be well satisfied, all you have to do is ask.
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: One of Helaena's servant girls was raped by Prince Aegon. While rape is illegal on paper, in their world there isn't much if any precedent for powerful men being brought to task for their sexual misconduct against commoners. While Alicent is sympathetic to the girl's plight, and clearly furious with Aegon, her primary priority is to ensure it gets covered up (by [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything paying her off]] and giving her moon tea) to protect her son's reputation. Being a prince, Aegon's sole punishment is being reprimanded by his mother.
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: One of Helaena's servant girls was raped by Prince Aegon. While rape is illegal on paper, in their world there isn't much if any precedent for powerful men being brought to task for their sexual misconduct against commoners. While Alicent is sympathetic to the girl's plight, and clearly furious with Aegon, her primary priority is to ensure it gets covered up (by [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything paying her off]] and giving her moon tea) to protect her son's reputation. Being a prince, Aegon's sole punishment is being reprimanded by his mother.
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* FacialDialogue: Daemon has two moments where he comments on the events with his face and body language alone:
** During the Velaryon inheritance hearing, there's a moment--subtle enough to miss the first time but clear upon {{Rewatch|Bonus}}--where Rhaenyra and Daemon lock eyes and then Rhaenyra gives a tiny little nod, signing off on Daemon's killing Vaemond before he does it.
** During the Velaryon inheritance hearing, there's a moment--subtle enough to miss the first time but clear upon {{Rewatch|Bonus}}--where Rhaenyra and Daemon lock eyes and then Rhaenyra gives a tiny little nod, signing off on Daemon's killing Vaemond before he does it.
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* FacialDialogue: Daemon has two moments where he comments on the events with his face and body language alone:
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** During the Velaryon inheritance hearing, there's a moment--subtle enough to miss the first time but clear upon {{Rewatch|Bonus}}--where Rhaenyra and Daemon lock eyes and then Rhaenyra gives a tiny little nod, signing off on Daemon's killing Vaemond before he does it. The dialogue: "Murder?" "Murder."
** During the Velaryon inheritance hearing, there's a moment--subtle enough to miss the first time but clear upon {{Rewatch|Bonus}}--where Rhaenyra and Daemon lock eyes and then Rhaenyra gives a tiny little nod, signing off on Daemon's killing Vaemond before he does it. The dialogue: "Murder?" "Murder."
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* NotSoDifferentRemark: During the dinner, Alicent tells Rhaenyra that the two have more in common that they would like to admit, remarking that the two of them are mothers that deeply love their children.
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* NotSoDifferentRemark: During the dinner, Alicent tells Rhaenyra that the two have more in common that they would like to admit, remarking that the two of them admit.
-->'''Alicent:''' We are both mothersthat deeply and we love their children.our children. We have more in common than we sometimes allow.
-->'''Alicent:''' We are both mothers
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Sucession between younger brothers and daughters is muddier then just "daughter before brother" (IE: Jonnel Stark inheriting from his brother even though Rickon had two daughters)
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Vaemond Velaryon says that King Viserys cannot dictate how succession will go on within House Velaryon, all while he himself is ignoring the wishes of the head of House Velaryon, his brother Corlys, by proclaiming himself heir to Driftmark over Luke. He also says that proclaiming Luke heir will end the Velaryon line even after Rhaenys's announcement that Luke will marry his great-niece Rhaena, who is unquestionably Corlys's trueborn granddaughter and thus part of the line of House Velaryon's firstborn son, while he is a secondborn son who would be usurping his older brother's descendants. Even in the Seven Kingdoms, by default a lord's daughter or his daughter's child would come before his younger brother in the absence of sons.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Vaemond Velaryon says that King Viserys cannot dictate how succession will go on within House Velaryon, all while he himself is ignoring the wishes of the head of House Velaryon, his brother Corlys, by proclaiming himself heir to Driftmark over Luke. He also says that proclaiming Luke heir will end the Velaryon line even after Rhaenys's announcement that Luke will marry his great-niece Rhaena, who is unquestionably Corlys's trueborn granddaughter and thus part of the line of House Velaryon's firstborn son, while he is a secondborn son who would be usurping his older brother's descendants. Even in the Seven Kingdoms, by default a lord's daughter or his daughter's child would come before his younger brother in the absence of sons.son.
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** During the Velaryon inheritance hearing, there's a moment--subtle enough to miss the first time but clear upon {{Rewatch|Bonus}}--where Rhaenyra and Daemon lock eyes and then Rhaenyra gives a tiny little nod, signing off on Daemon's killing Vaemond before he does it.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Vaemond Velaryon says that King Viserys cannot determine how succession will go on within House Velaryon, all while he himself is ignoring the wishes of the head of House Velaryon, his brother Corlys, by proclaiming himself heir to Driftmark over Luke. He also says that proclaiming Luke heir will end the Velaryon line even after Rhaenys's announcement that Luke will marry his great-niece Rhaena, who is unquestionably Corlys's trueborn granddaughter and thus part of the line of House Velaryon's firstborn son, while he is a secondborn son who would be usurping his older brother's descendants. Even in the Seven Kingdoms, by default a lord's daughter or his daughter's child would come before his younger brother in the absence of sons.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Vaemond Velaryon says that King Viserys cannot determine dictate how succession will go on within House Velaryon, all while he himself is ignoring the wishes of the head of House Velaryon, his brother Corlys, by proclaiming himself heir to Driftmark over Luke. He also says that proclaiming Luke heir will end the Velaryon line even after Rhaenys's announcement that Luke will marry his great-niece Rhaena, who is unquestionably Corlys's trueborn granddaughter and thus part of the line of House Velaryon's firstborn son, while he is a secondborn son who would be usurping his older brother's descendants. Even in the Seven Kingdoms, by default a lord's daughter or his daughter's child would come before his younger brother in the absence of sons.
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* BlamingTheVictim: Discussed. Alicent knows good and well that Dyana was blameless in Aegon's attack of her and genuinely pities her, but she intimidates the girl into silence by noting that it would [[ShameIfSomethingHappened be a shame if people thought that her accusations against the future king are fakes]] while she pays her to keep the secret and makes her drink moon tea. That said, we later see her going furious in her son's rooms to scold him harshly for what he did.
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* BlamingTheVictim: Discussed. Alicent knows good and well that Dyana was blameless in Aegon's attack of her and genuinely pities her, but she intimidates the girl into silence by noting that it would [[ShameIfSomethingHappened be a shame if people thought that her accusations against the future king are fakes]] were false]], while she pays paying her to keep the secret and makes making her drink moon tea. That said, we later see her going furious in into her son's rooms to scold him harshly for what he did.
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* BlamingTheVictim: Discussed. Alicent knows good and well that Dyana was blameless in Aegon's attack of her and genuinely pities her, but she intimidates the girl into silence by noting that it would [[ShameIfSomethingHappened be a shame if people thought that her accusations against the future king are fakes]] when she pays her for her silence. That said, we later see her going furious in her son's rooms to scold him harshly for what he did.
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* BlamingTheVictim: Discussed. Alicent knows good and well that Dyana was blameless in Aegon's attack of her and genuinely pities her, but she intimidates the girl into silence by noting that it would [[ShameIfSomethingHappened be a shame if people thought that her accusations against the future king are fakes]] when while she pays her for to keep the secret and makes her silence.drink moon tea. That said, we later see her going furious in her son's rooms to scold him harshly for what he did.
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* BlamingTheVictim: Discussed. Alicent knows good and well that Dyana was blameless in Aegon's attack of her and genuinely pities her, but she intimidates the girl into silence by noting that it would [[ShameIfSomethingHappened be a shame if people thought that her accusations against the future king are fakes]] when she pays her for her silence.
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* BlamingTheVictim: Discussed. Alicent knows good and well that Dyana was blameless in Aegon's attack of her and genuinely pities her, but she intimidates the girl into silence by noting that it would [[ShameIfSomethingHappened be a shame if people thought that her accusations against the future king are fakes]] when she pays her for her silence. That said, we later see her going furious in her son's rooms to scold him harshly for what he did.
