History Quotes / TheKillingJoke

27th Jan '16 10:46:37 PM JulianLapostat
Is there an issue? Send a Message


-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore, [[http://www.blather.net/projects/alan-moore-interview/killing-joke-brought-light/ reflecting on]] ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''

to:

-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore, '''Creator/AlanMoore''', [[http://www.blather.net/projects/alan-moore-interview/killing-joke-brought-light/ reflecting on]] ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''
27th Jan '16 10:46:25 PM JulianLapostat
Is there an issue? Send a Message


!! Alan Moore




to:

->''"[ [[ComicBook/TheJoker The Joker has]] ] a kind of muddy kind of origin. They’d said that he’d been the leader of a criminal gang called the Red Hood Mob and that while trying to escape from Batman he’d swum across this river of chemicals...That was about it and this was [[Creator/BillFinger from a story from, like, the late ’50s or something]] and so I thought “[[{{Retcon}} Okay, I won’t contradict that]],” because I kind of [[CanonWelding believe in working by the rules of the material as it already exists]] but [[MultipleChoicePast I can put a lot of spin on that]]."''
-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore, [[http://www.blather.net/projects/alan-moore-interview/killing-joke-brought-light/ reflecting on]] ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''
27th Jan '16 10:40:23 PM JulianLapostat
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

->''Well, [[HollywoodPersonalityDisorders psychotic murders — the key word there is “psychotic,”]] which is, as far [[TheMentallyDisturbed as I know, an illness]]. This is not to say that people shouldn’t be entitled to feel rage or the lust for {{revenge}} when something happens to them at the hands of somebody like this, but you’ve got to remember at the end of the day it’s not strictly speaking that person’s fault. [[FreudianExcuse That something has happened to them]], they have made some bad decision in their life, and while all of us are responsible for our actions, [[SanitySlippage sometimes people get broken and it is increasingly difficult for them to know their own actions]]. So I suppose that if there was anything actually being said in “The Killing Joke,” it was that everybody has probably got a reason for being where they are, even the most monstrous of us.''
-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore''', [[http://www.salon.com/2009/03/05/alan_moore_q_a/ Salon Interview]]

27th Jan '16 10:22:45 PM JulianLapostat
Is there an issue? Send a Message


->''Amongst my own work, ''The Killing Joke''...Yeah, there's loads of emotion layered on there. It's quite clever. The plot works, on a material level. But it's not about anything, it's not about anything of human importance, it's about Batman and The Joker and you're never gonna meet anybody like Batman and The Joker. It's of no use to you as a human being. It's one of the works – there's some very good things about it, but it's lacking something, and it's lacking soul. It's not got the thematic drive that say Watchmen has, which I was doing at the same time. That was my big mistake. I was doing Dark Knight – I was doing The Killing Joke at the same time as I was doing Watchmen .''

to:

->''Amongst my own work, ''The '''The Killing Joke''...Joke'''...Yeah, there's loads of emotion layered on there. It's quite clever. The plot works, on a material level. But it's not about anything, it's not about anything of human importance, it's about Batman and The Joker and you're never gonna meet anybody like Batman and The Joker. It's of no use to you as a human being. It's one of the works – there's some very good things about it, but it's lacking something, and it's lacking soul. It's not got the thematic drive that say Watchmen ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} has, which I was doing at the same time. [[SelfDeprecation That was my big mistake. I was doing Dark Knight – mistake]]...I was doing The Killing Joke at the same time as I was doing Watchmen .Watchmen.''
27th Jan '16 10:21:34 PM JulianLapostat
Is there an issue? Send a Message


! From the Book:

to:

! From the Book:
Comic:



----

to:

! About the Comic:

->''Amongst my own work, ''The Killing Joke''...Yeah, there's loads of emotion layered on there. It's quite clever. The plot works, on a material level. But it's not about anything, it's not about anything of human importance, it's about Batman and The Joker and you're never gonna meet anybody like Batman and The Joker. It's of no use to you as a human being. It's one of the works – there's some very good things about it, but it's lacking something, and it's lacking soul. It's not got the thematic drive that say Watchmen has, which I was doing at the same time. That was my big mistake. I was doing Dark Knight – I was doing The Killing Joke at the same time as I was doing Watchmen .''
-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore''', [[http://www.comicscube.com/2012/07/the-craft-interview-with-alan-moore-by.html The Craft, Interview with Alan Moore]].

----
27th Jan '16 10:17:54 PM JulianLapostat
Is there an issue? Send a Message


''The Killing Joke'' contains a number of the greatest monologues in Batman (and comic book, and perhaps ''print media'') history, and it's a bit difficult to not quote the whole thing. The most important monologues, however, are such:

to:

''The Killing Joke'' contains a number of ! From the greatest monologues in Batman (and comic book, and perhaps ''print media'') history, and it's a bit difficult to not quote the whole thing. The most important monologues, however, are such:
Book:



-->---



-->---

->'''Joker''': "So... I see you received the free ticket I sent you. I'm glad. I did so want you to be here. You see, it doesn't matter if you catch me and send me back to the asylum... Gordon's been driven mad. I've proved my point. I've demonstrated there's no difference between me and everyone else! All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.

->You had a bad day once, am I right? I know I am. I can tell. You had a bad day and everything changed. Why else would you dress up like a flying rat? You had a bad day, and it drove you as crazy as everybody else... only you won't admit it! You have to keep pretending that life makes sense, that there's some point to all this struggling! God, you make me want to puke.

->I mean, what '''''is''''' it with you? What made you what you are? Girlfriend killed by the mob, maybe? Brother carved up by some mugger? Something like that, I bet. Something like that...

->Something like that happened to me, you know. I... I'm not exactly sure what it was. Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... [[TropeNamer if I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!]] Ha ha ha!

->But my point is... my point is, I went crazy. When I saw what a black, awful '''joke''' the world was, I went crazy a coot! I admit it! ''Why can't you?'' I mean, you're not unintelligent! You must see the reality of the situation. Do you know how many times we've come close to World War Three over a flock of ''geese'' on a computer screen? Do you know what triggered the last World War? An argument over how many telegraph poles Germany owed its war debt creditors! '''Telegraph poles!''' Ha ha ha ha ha!

->It's all a joke! Everything everybody ever valued or struggled for... it's all a monstrous, demented gag! So why can't you see the funny side?

->Why aren't you laughing?"

to:

-->---


->'''Joker''': "So... I see you received the free ticket I sent you. I'm glad. I did so want you to be here. You see, it doesn't matter if you catch me and send me back to the asylum... Gordon's been driven mad. I've proved my point. I've demonstrated there's no difference between me and everyone else! All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.

->You
day.\\
You
had a bad day once, am I right? I know I am. I can tell. You had a bad day and everything changed. Why else would you dress up like a flying rat? You had a bad day, and it drove you as crazy as everybody else... only you won't admit it! You have to keep pretending that life makes sense, that there's some point to all this struggling! God, you make me want to puke.

->I
puke.\\
I
mean, what '''''is''''' it with you? What made you what you are? Girlfriend killed by the mob, maybe? Brother carved up by some mugger? Something like that, I bet. Something like that...

->Something
that...\\
Something
like that happened to me, you know. I... I'm not exactly sure what it was. Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... [[TropeNamer if I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!]] Ha ha ha!

->But
ha!\\
But
my point is... my point is, I went crazy. When I saw what a black, awful '''joke''' the world was, I went crazy a coot! I admit it! ''Why can't you?'' I mean, you're not unintelligent! You must see the reality of the situation. Do you know how many times we've come close to World War Three over a flock of ''geese'' on a computer screen? Do you know what triggered the last World War? An argument over how many telegraph poles Germany owed its war debt creditors! '''Telegraph poles!''' Ha ha ha ha ha!

->It's
ha!\\
It's
all a joke! Everything everybody ever valued or struggled for... it's all a monstrous, demented gag! So why can't you see the funny side?

->Why
side?\\
Why
aren't you laughing?"



-->---



-->---

to:

-->---



-->---

->'''Joker''': "See, there were these [[IHaveThisFriend two guys]] in a lunatic asylum. And one night, they decide they don't like living in the asylum anymore. They decide they're going to escape! So, like, they get up onto the roof, and ''there'', just across this narrow gap, they see the rooftops of the town, stretching away into the moonlight. Stretching away to freedom. Now, the first guy, he jumps right across with no problem. But his ''friend'', his friend daren't make the leap. Y'see... y'see, he's afraid of falling. So then the first guy has an idea... He says, 'Hey, I have a flashlight with me! I'll shine it across the gap between the buildings. You can walk across the beam and join me!' But the second guy just shakes his head. He suh-says... he says 'Wh-what do you think I am? ''Crazy''? [[RightForTheWrongReasons You'd turn it off when I was halfway across]]!'"

to:

-->---

->'''Joker''': "See, there were these [[IHaveThisFriend two guys]] in a lunatic asylum. And one night, they decide they don't like living in the asylum anymore. They decide they're going to escape! So, like, they get up onto the roof, and ''there'', just across this narrow gap, they see the rooftops of the town, stretching away into the moonlight. Stretching away to freedom. Now, the first guy, he jumps right across with no problem. But his ''friend'', his friend daren't make the leap. Y'see... y'see, he's afraid of falling. So then the first guy has an idea... He says, 'Hey, I have a flashlight with me! I'll shine it across the gap between the buildings. You can walk across the beam and join me!' But the second guy just shakes his head. He suh-says... he says 'Wh-what do you think I am? ''Crazy''? [[RightForTheWrongReasons You'd turn it off when I was halfway across]]!'"across]]!'"

----
20th Aug '15 2:08:02 PM kkhohoho
Is there an issue? Send a Message


->'''Joker''': "Memories can be vile. Repulsive little brutes, like children I suppose. But can we live without them? Memories are what our reason is based upon. If we can't face them, we deny reason itself! Although, why not? We aren't contractually tied down to rationality. There is no sanity clause. So where do you find yourself, locked down in an unpleasant train of thought? Heading for the places in your past where the screaming is unbearable? Remember, there's always madness. You can just step outside and close the door, and all those dreadful things that happened, you can lock them away. Madness... is an emergency exit."

to:

->'''Joker''': "Memories can be vile. Repulsive little brutes, like children I suppose. But can we live without them? Memories are what our reason is based upon. If we can't face them, we deny reason itself! Although, why not? We aren't contractually tied down to rationality. There is no sanity clause. So where do when you find yourself, yourself locked down in an unpleasant train of thought? Heading thought, heading for the places in your past where the screaming is unbearable? Remember, there's unbearable, remember: There's always madness. You can just step outside and close the door, and all those dreadful things that happened, you can lock them away. Madness... is an emergency exit."
30th Jul '15 7:14:17 PM kkhohoho
Is there an issue? Send a Message


->'''Joker''': "Memories can be vile. Repulsive little brutes, like children I suppose. But can we live without them? Memories are what our reason is based upon. If we can't face them, we deny reason itself! Although, why not? We aren't contractually tied down to rationality. There is no sanity clause. So where do you find yourself, locked down in an unpleasant train of thought? Heading for the places in your past where the screaming is unbearable? Remember, there's always madness. You can just step outside and close the door, and all those dreadful things that happened, you can lock them away. Madness... is an emergency exit.

to:

->'''Joker''': "Memories can be vile. Repulsive little brutes, like children I suppose. But can we live without them? Memories are what our reason is based upon. If we can't face them, we deny reason itself! Although, why not? We aren't contractually tied down to rationality. There is no sanity clause. So where do you find yourself, locked down in an unpleasant train of thought? Heading for the places in your past where the screaming is unbearable? Remember, there's always madness. You can just step outside and close the door, and all those dreadful things that happened, you can lock them away. Madness... is an emergency exit."
30th Jul '15 7:13:26 PM kkhohoho
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

->'''Joker''': "Memories can be vile. Repulsive little brutes, like children I suppose. But can we live without them? Memories are what our reason is based upon. If we can't face them, we deny reason itself! Although, why not? We aren't contractually tied down to rationality. There is no sanity clause. So where do you find yourself, locked down in an unpleasant train of thought? Heading for the places in your past where the screaming is unbearable? Remember, there's always madness. You can just step outside and close the door, and all those dreadful things that happened, you can lock them away. Madness... is an emergency exit.
-->---
28th Jul '15 7:07:09 AM kkhohoho
Is there an issue? Send a Message


->'''Batman''': "Hello. I came to talk. I've been thinking lately. About you and me. About what's going to happen to us, in the end. We're going to kill each other, aren't we? Perhaps you'll kill me. Perhaps I'll kill you. Perhaps sooner. Perhaps later. I just wanted to know that I'd made a genuine attempt to talk things over and '''avert''' that outcome. Just once. Are you listening to me? It's life and death I'm discussing here. Maybe my death... maybe yours. I don't fully understand why ours should be such a fatal relationship, but I don't want your murder on my... hands..."

to:

->'''Batman''': "Hello. I came to talk. I've been thinking lately. About you and me. About what's going to happen to us, in the end. We're going to kill each other, aren't we? Perhaps you'll kill me. Perhaps I'll kill you. Perhaps sooner. Perhaps later. I just wanted you to know that I'd made a genuine attempt to talk things over and '''avert''' that outcome. Just once. Are you listening to me? It's life and death I'm discussing here. Maybe my death... maybe yours. I don't fully understand why ours should be such a fatal relationship, but I don't want your murder on my... hands..."
This list shows the last 10 events of 20. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Quotes.TheKillingJoke