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->''"''Your'' tale as old as time\\

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->''"''Your'' tale ->''"Your 'tale as old as time\\time'\\



'Til a man just appears"''

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'Til a man just appears"''''appears!''"''
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->''"''Your'' tale as old as time\\
Sets us back fifty years\\
Do your chores, do the floors\\
'Til a man just appears"''
-->--'''[[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Belle]]''' to {{Disney/Cinderella}}, "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeZXQf77hhk Princess Rap Battle]]"
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->''Someone pointed out that [[SirMixALot "Oh my god, becky, look at her butt"]] passes the Bechdel test and I haven't stopped laughing for a week''
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->''"And I tried to remember any case in the course of my reading where two women are represented as friends…They are now and then mothers and daughters. But almost without exception they are shown in their relation to men. It was strange to think that all the great women of fiction were, until Jane Austen’s day, not only seen by the other sex, but seen only in relation to the other sex. And how small a part of a woman’s life is that."''

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->''"And ->And I tried to remember any case in the course of my reading where two women are represented as friends…They are now and then mothers and daughters. But almost without exception they are shown in their relation to men. It was strange to think that all the great women of fiction were, until Jane Austen’s day, not only seen by the other sex, but seen only in relation to the other sex. And how small a part of a woman’s life is that."''



->''"It’s not that the Bechdel test identifies particularly good or feminist films. It’s that it’s [[DamnedByFaintPraise a low bar]] to clear that huge swaths of things simply don’t."''

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->''"It’s ->It’s not that the Bechdel test identifies particularly good or feminist films. It’s that it’s [[DamnedByFaintPraise a low bar]] bar to clear clear]] that huge swaths of things simply don’t."''



->''"Even when they formed their own religious group, these women still go on about shrivelled gonads and limp dicks. Talk about failing the Bechdel test."''

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->''"Even ->''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'' was a show conceived in feminist or at least pro-woman terms. Conceived by a woman writer-producer, Jeri Taylor, along with Michael Piller, ''Voyager'' was the first Trek series with a woman Captain. Captain Janeway (Kate Mulgrew) was an interesting mixture of Kirk-style heroics, nurturing, maternal sensitivity, and thoughtfully enquiring scientific curiosity (Janeway is a scientist as well as a Captain; unfortunately, this aspect of her persona [[{{Flanderization}} was downplayed in later years]]). Whereas ''Voyager'' had a strong female Captain, Janeway and several other strong women characters, ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' features two female characters who represent two sides of the debased woman in patriarchy, [[StrawFeminist the tough woman denounced by hostile males]] and [[HystericalWoman the fumbling, wan hysteric.]]
-->--'''[[http://www.ejumpcut.org/archive/jc50.2008/StarTrekEnt/2.html David Greven]]'''

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when they formed their own religious group, these women still go on about shrivelled gonads and limp dicks. Talk about failing the Bechdel test."''
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->'''Laura''': I'd also like to note that there is literally only one scene where any female characters appear in either of these issues, and this is it. Naturally, they do not speak.
->'''David''': OOH LOOK AT LAURA HUDSON AND HER RADICAL FEMINIST AGENDA. There you go, commenters. [[DearNegativeReader I saved you the trouble!]]

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->'''Laura''': I'd also like to note that there is literally only one scene where any female characters appear in either of these issues, and this is it. Naturally, they do not speak.
->'''David''':
speak.\\
'''David''':
OOH LOOK AT LAURA HUDSON AND HER RADICAL FEMINIST AGENDA. There you go, commenters. [[DearNegativeReader I saved you the trouble!]]
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->'''Laura''': I'd also like to note that there is literally only one scene where any female characters appear in either of these issues, and this is it. Naturally, they do not speak.
->'''David''': OOH LOOK AT LAURA HUDSON AND HER RADICAL FEMINIST AGENDA. There you go, commenters. [[DearNegativeReader I saved you the trouble!]]
-->--[[http://comicsalliance.com/batman-odyssey-neal-adams-review/ Laura Hudson]], "The Complete and Utter Insanity of ''ComicBook/BatmanOdyssey''"
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What does this quote have to do with two female characters having a conversation together about a topic other than men?


->'''Laura''': I’d also like to note that there is literally only one scene where any female characters appear in either of these issues, and this is it. Naturally, they do not speak.
->'''David''': OOH LOOK AT LAURA HUDSON AND HER RADICAL FEMINIST AGENDA. There you go, commenters. [[DearNegativeReader I saved you the trouble!]]
-->--[[http://comicsalliance.com/batman-odyssey-neal-adams-review/ Laura Hudson]], "The Complete and Utter Insanity of ''ComicBook/BatmanOdyssey''"
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->'''Laura''': I’d also like to note that there is literally only one scene where any female characters appear in either of these issues, and this is it. Naturally, they do not speak.
->'''David''': OOH LOOK AT LAURA HUDSON AND HER RADICAL FEMINIST AGENDA. There you go, commenters. [[DearNegativeReader I saved you the trouble!]]
-->--[[http://comicsalliance.com/batman-odyssey-neal-adams-review/ Laura Hudson]], "The Complete and Utter Insanity of ''ComicBook/BatmanOdyssey''"
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These quotes are not related to The Bechdel Test. They have a general theme about the depiction of women in media, but the Bechdel Test is - as stated in the article - not a scorecard for the work\'s degree of feminism. It\'s specifically about how often female characters are defined entirely by their connections to male characters.


->''"A young woman achieves all of her goals. She finds an object of value—in this case, a broad-chested brunet man—and sacrifices as much as she believes necessary (the ocean, talking, etc.) in order to acquire him. ''[[MisaimedFandom —Four stars.]]''"''
-->--[[http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/ayn-rand-reviews-childrens-movies "Ayn Rand"]] on ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''

->''"Lara Croft's breasts aren't [[MostCommonSuperpower mega enormous]] any more. No big boobs, no misogyny. They are the canaries of the industry's coal mine."''
-->--'''''Website/SomethingAwful''''' parodies ''Videogame/TombRaider2013''

->''"After ''Film/CutthroatIsland'' was released, ''[Geena]'' Davis wrote a letter to ''Entertainment'' Weekly telling them to never mention her again because of their '[[DearNegativeReader mean-spirited, error-filled articles]]' about the movie. But as she said then, despite the fact that it flopped, she wasn't embarrassed by the film's high budget or how badly it did. She was happy that a 'film like this one can be on the shoulders of a woman.[='=]''
->''Now we know: Being [[BoxOfficeBomb expensive and bad]] isn't just for men."''
-->--'''[[http://jezebel.com/revisiting-cutthroat-island-the-feminist-pirate-movie-1642937289 Kate Dries]]''', "Revisiting ''Cutthroat Island'', the Feminist Pirate Movie That Failed"

->''"It's fascinating to compare the lives of Sisko and [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Janeway]] in their respective series six -- he is juggling the fates of Empires whilst she is [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Fair_Haven_%28episode%29 personalising her own dildo!]]"''
-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/deep-space-nine-season-six.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', "In the Pale Moonlight"

->''"[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Uhura’s]] position on the bridge of the ''Enterprise'' was notably [[TokenMinority primarily due to her ethnicity]] – it was great to have an African American in such a prominent position. Uhura’s position is a lot less flattering viewed through [[TheBechdelTest a feminist lens]] – Nichelle Nichols has conceded that Uhura was essentially the ''Enterprise''[=’=]s [[StayInTheKitchen receptionist]]... While ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'' did better, it’s still notable that their later {{mirror universe}} episodes were preoccupied with the notion that '[[GirlOnGirlIsHot girls kissing girls are hot]]' and produced episodes like Profit and Lace. All of this is a very roundabout way of suggesting that Janeway was probably always going to be tough character for ''Star Trek'' to write, and that the show needed to be very careful with her."''
-->--'''Darren Mooney''' [[http://them0vieblog.com/2014/10/06/star-trek-voyager-prime-factors-review/ on]] ''Series/StarTrekVoyager''

->''"''[Brannon]'' Braga had talked about T'Pol having her first ''[[MateOrDie pon farr]]'' several times long before this episode came out, with all the maturity you'd expect this topic to be given: none whatsoever. First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there!\\\
And the ironic part is that ''Voyager'' '''did''' bring it up... but only to somehow give it to Torres, leading to--let me remind you if you have forgotten--a guy trying to beat a woman into unconsciousness so he could have sex with her while three men watched; or as it's known in ''Star Trek'', [[UnfortunateImplications feminism]]."''
-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "Bounty"
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->''"Its fascinating to compare the lives of Sisko and [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Janeway]] in their respective series six -- he is juggling the fates of Empires whilst she is [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Fair_Haven_%28episode%29 personalising her own dildo!]]"''

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->''"Its ->''"It's fascinating to compare the lives of Sisko and [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Janeway]] in their respective series six -- he is juggling the fates of Empires whilst she is [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Fair_Haven_%28episode%29 personalising her own dildo!]]"''
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-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/deep-space-nine-season-six.html Doc Och]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', "In the Pale Moonlight"

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-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/deep-space-nine-season-six.html Doc Och]]''' Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', "In the Pale Moonlight"
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->''"This is the story where Sarah is so badly written that she admits [[BrainlessBeauty thinking gives her a headache.]]"''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.com/2013/08/revenge-of-cybermen-written-by-gerry.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Doctor Who'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS12E5RevengeOfTheCybermen}} "Revenge of the Cybermen"]]

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->''"This is ->''"Its fascinating to compare the story where Sarah lives of Sisko and [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Janeway]] in their respective series six -- he is so badly written that juggling the fates of Empires whilst she admits [[BrainlessBeauty thinking gives is [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Fair_Haven_%28episode%29 personalising her a headache.]]"''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.
own dildo!]]"''
-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.
blogspot.com/2013/08/revenge-of-cybermen-written-by-gerry.co.uk/2012/07/deep-space-nine-season-six.html Doc Oho]]''' Och]]''' on ''Doctor Who'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS12E5RevengeOfTheCybermen}} "Revenge of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', "In the Cybermen"]]
Pale Moonlight"
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->''"An industrious young woman neglects to charge for her housekeeping services and is [[RootingForTheEmpire rightly exploited for her naïveté.]] She dies without ever having sought her own happiness as the highest moral aim. I did not finish watching this movie, finding it impossible to sympathize with the main character. ''—No stars''.'"''
-->--[[http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/ayn-rand-reviews-childrens-movies "Ayn Rand"]] on ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarves''

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->''"An industrious ->''"A young woman neglects to charge for achieves all of her housekeeping services and is [[RootingForTheEmpire rightly exploited for her naïveté.]] goals. She dies without ever having sought her own happiness as the highest moral aim. I did not finish watching finds an object of value—in this movie, finding it impossible case, a broad-chested brunet man—and sacrifices as much as she believes necessary (the ocean, talking, etc.) in order to sympathize with the main character. ''—No stars''.'"''
acquire him. ''[[MisaimedFandom —Four stars.]]''"''
-->--[[http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/ayn-rand-reviews-childrens-movies "Ayn Rand"]] on ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarves''
''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''

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->''"An industrious young woman neglects to charge for her housekeeping services and is [[RootingForTheEmpire rightly exploited for her naïveté.]] She dies without ever having sought her own happiness as the highest moral aim. I did not finish watching this movie, finding it impossible to sympathize with the main character. ''—No stars''.'"''
-->--[[http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/ayn-rand-reviews-childrens-movies "Ayn Rand"]] on ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarves''



-->--'''''Website/SomethingAwful''''' lampoons this trope, ''Videogame/TombRaider2013''

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-->--'''''Website/SomethingAwful''''' lampoons this trope, parodies ''Videogame/TombRaider2013''
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->''"After ''Film/CutthroatIsland'' was released, ''[Geena]'' Davis wrote a letter to ''Entertainment'' Weekly telling them to never mention her again because of their 'mean-spirited, error-filled articles' about the movie. But as she said then, despite the fact that it flopped, she wasn't embarrassed by the film's high budget or how badly it did. She was happy that a 'film like this one can be on the shoulders of a woman.[='=]''

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->''"After ''Film/CutthroatIsland'' was released, ''[Geena]'' Davis wrote a letter to ''Entertainment'' Weekly telling them to never mention her again because of their 'mean-spirited, '[[DearNegativeReader mean-spirited, error-filled articles' articles]]' about the movie. But as she said then, despite the fact that it flopped, she wasn't embarrassed by the film's high budget or how badly it did. She was happy that a 'film like this one can be on the shoulders of a woman.[='=]''

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->''"After ''Film/CutthroatIsland'' was released, ''[Geena]'' Davis wrote a letter to ''Entertainment'' Weekly telling them to never mention her again because of their 'mean-spirited, error-filled articles' about the movie. But as she said then, despite the fact that it flopped, she wasn't embarrassed by the film's high budget or how badly it did. She was happy that a 'film like this one can be on the shoulders of a woman.'\\\
Now we know: Being [[BoxOfficeBomb expensive and bad]] isn't just for men. It's for women too, even if they only get one shot at it."''

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->''"After ''Film/CutthroatIsland'' was released, ''[Geena]'' Davis wrote a letter to ''Entertainment'' Weekly telling them to never mention her again because of their 'mean-spirited, error-filled articles' about the movie. But as she said then, despite the fact that it flopped, she wasn't embarrassed by the film's high budget or how badly it did. She was happy that a 'film like this one can be on the shoulders of a woman.'\\\
Now
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we know: Being [[BoxOfficeBomb expensive and bad]] isn't just for men. It's for women too, even if they only get one shot at it.men."''


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->''"This is the story where Sarah is so badly written that she admits [[BrainlessBeauty thinking gives her a headache.]]"''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.com/2013/08/revenge-of-cybermen-written-by-gerry.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Doctor Who'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS12E5RevengeOfTheCybermen}} "Revenge of the Cybermen"]]
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--> -- '''WebVideo/ThatSciFiGuy''', ''WebVideo/BadMovieBeatdown: The Shepherd''

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--> -- '''WebVideo/ThatSciFiGuy''', ''WebVideo/BadMovieBeatdown: The Shepherd''Shepherd''
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-->--'''''Website/SomethingAwful''''' lampoons ''Videogame/TombRaider2013''

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-->--'''''Website/SomethingAwful''''' lampoons ''Videogame/TombRaider2013''
this trope, ''Videogame/TombRaider2013''

->''"After ''Film/CutthroatIsland'' was released, ''[Geena]'' Davis wrote a letter to ''Entertainment'' Weekly telling them to never mention her again because of their 'mean-spirited, error-filled articles' about the movie. But as she said then, despite the fact that it flopped, she wasn't embarrassed by the film's high budget or how badly it did. She was happy that a 'film like this one can be on the shoulders of a woman.'\\\
Now we know: Being [[BoxOfficeBomb expensive and bad]] isn't just for men. It's for women too, even if they only get one shot at it."''
-->--'''[[http://jezebel.com/revisiting-cutthroat-island-the-feminist-pirate-movie-1642937289 Kate Dries]]''', "Revisiting ''Cutthroat Island'', the Feminist Pirate Movie That Failed"
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->''"Lara Croft's breasts aren't [[MostCommonSuperpower mega enormous]] any more. No big boobs, no misogyny. They are the canaries of the industry's coal mine."''
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->''"[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Uhura’s]] position on the bridge of the ''Enterprise'' was notably [[TokenMinority primarily due to her ethnicity]] – it was great to have an African American in such a prominent position. Uhura’s position is a lot less flattering viewed through [[TheBechdelTest a feminist lens]] – Nichelle Nichols has conceded that Uhura was essentially the ''Enterprise''[=’=]s [[StayInTheKitchen receptionist]]... While ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'' did better, it’s still notable that their later {{mirror universe}} episodes were preoccupied with the notion that '[[GirlOnGirlIsHot girls kissing girls are hot]]' and produced episodes like Profit and Lace. All of this is a very roundabout way of suggesting that Janeway was probably always going to be tough character for ''Star Trek'' to write, and that the show needed to be very careful with her."''
-->--'''Darren Mooney''' [[http://them0vieblog.com/2014/10/06/star-trek-voyager-prime-factors-review/ on]] ''Series/StarTrekVoyager''
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->''"''[Brannon]'' Braga had talked about T'Pol having her first ''pon farr'' several times long before this episode came out, with all the maturity you'd expect this topic to be given: none whatsoever. First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there!\\\

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->''"''[Brannon]'' Braga had talked about T'Pol having her first ''pon farr'' ''[[MateOrDie pon farr]]'' several times long before this episode came out, with all the maturity you'd expect this topic to be given: none whatsoever. First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there!\\\

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->''"This was part of their May {{sweeps}} attempt where they pitched this double-header as follows: 'Celebrate 50 years of episodes with ''Enterprise''!', and after that, 'How will the ''Enterprise'' crew handle deal with T'Pol in heat?!'\\\
...''[Brannon]'' Braga had talked about T'Pol having her first ''pon farr'' several times long before this episode came out, with all the maturity you'd expect this topic to be given: none whatsoever. First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there!\\\
And the ironic part is that ''Voyager'' '''did''' bring it up... but only to somehow give it to Torres, leading to--let me remind you if you have forgotten--a guy trying to beat a woman into unconsciousness so he could have sex with her while three men watched; or as it's known in ''Star Trek'', [[UnfortunateImplications FEMINISM]]."''

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->''"This was part of their May {{sweeps}} attempt where they pitched this double-header as follows: 'Celebrate 50 years of episodes with ''Enterprise''!', and after that, 'How will the ''Enterprise'' crew handle deal with T'Pol in heat?!'\\\
...''[Brannon]''
->''"''[Brannon]'' Braga had talked about T'Pol having her first ''pon farr'' several times long before this episode came out, with all the maturity you'd expect this topic to be given: none whatsoever. First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there!\\\
And the ironic part is that ''Voyager'' '''did''' bring it up... but only to somehow give it to Torres, leading to--let me remind you if you have forgotten--a guy trying to beat a woman into unconsciousness so he could have sex with her while three men watched; or as it's known in ''Star Trek'', [[UnfortunateImplications FEMINISM]].feminism]]."''
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->''"It’s not that the Bechdel test identifies particularly good or feminist films. It’s that it’s [[DamnedByFaintPraise a low bar]] to clear that huge swaths of things simply don’t."''
-->--'''[[http://philsandifer.tumblr.com/post/98161155591/fuck-the-bechdel-test Phil Sandifer]]'''
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...''[Brannon]'' Braga had talked about T'Pol having her first ''pon farr'' several times long before this episode came out First, with all the maturity you'd expect this topic to be given: none whatsoever. First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there!\\\

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...''[Brannon]'' Braga had talked about T'Pol having her first ''pon farr'' several times long before this episode came out First, out, with all the maturity you'd expect this topic to be given: none whatsoever. First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there!\\\
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...First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there!\\\

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...''[Brannon]'' Braga had talked about T'Pol having her first ''pon farr'' several times long before this episode came out First, with all the maturity you'd expect this topic to be given: none whatsoever. First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there!\\\

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->''"This was part of their May {{sweeps}} attempt where they pitched this double-header as follows: 'Celebrate 50 years of episodes with ''Enterprise''!', and after that, 'How will the ''Enterprise'' crew handle deal with T'Pol in heat?!' ...First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there! And the ironic part is that ''Voyager'' '''did''' bring it up... but only to somehow give it to Torres, leading to--let me remind you if you have forgotten--a guy trying to beat a woman into unconsciousness so he could have sex with her while three men watched; or as it's known in ''Star Trek'', [[UnfortunateImplications FEMINISM]]."''

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->''"This was part of their May {{sweeps}} attempt where they pitched this double-header as follows: 'Celebrate 50 years of episodes with ''Enterprise''!', and after that, 'How will the ''Enterprise'' crew handle deal with T'Pol in heat?!' ...heat?!'\\\
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First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there! there!\\\
And the ironic part is that ''Voyager'' '''did''' bring it up... but only to somehow give it to Torres, leading to--let me remind you if you have forgotten--a guy trying to beat a woman into unconsciousness so he could have sex with her while three men watched; or as it's known in ''Star Trek'', [[UnfortunateImplications FEMINISM]]."''
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->''"This was part of their May {{sweeps}} attempt where they pitched this double-header as follows: 'Celebrate 50 years of episodes with ''Enterprise''!', and after that, 'How will the ''Enterprise'' crew handle deal with T'Pol in heat?!' ...First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there! And the ironic part is that ''Voyager'' '''did''' bring it up... but only to somehow give it to Torres, leading to--let me remind you if you have forgotten--a guy trying to beat a woman into unconsciousness so he could have sex with her while three men watched; or as it's known in ''Star Trek'', [[UnfortunateImplications FEMINISM]]."''

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->''"This was part of their May {{sweeps}} attempt where they pitched this double-header as follows: 'Celebrate 50 years of episodes with ''Enterprise''!', and after that, 'How will the ''Enterprise'' crew handle deal with T'Pol in heat?!' ...First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that it's something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there! And the ironic part is that ''Voyager'' '''did''' bring it up... but only to somehow give it to Torres, leading to--let me remind you if you have forgotten--a guy trying to beat a woman into unconsciousness so he could have sex with her while three men watched; or as it's known in ''Star Trek'', [[UnfortunateImplications FEMINISM]]."''
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->''"This was part of their May {{sweeps}} attempt where they pitched this double-header as follows: 'Celebrate 50 years of episodes with ''Enterprise''!', and after that, 'How will the ''Enterprise'' crew handle deal with T'Pol in heat?!' ...First, to get this out there, it was explicitly stated that something only ''the males'' undergo; ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]]'' made it clear. Now, I'm not saying this to say '[[SeriesContinuityError continuity error]]' (even though it is), but as an illustration of the attitude. Because I'm pretty sure the producers were not giddily discussing [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tuvok's]] ''pon farr''. They didn't even address it until Season Seven, in the b-plot of [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blood_Fever_%28episode%29 an episode]] that was so ludicrous, it made you forget the other part was even there! And the ironic part is that ''Voyager'' '''did''' bring it up... but only to somehow give it to Torres, leading to--let me remind you if you have forgotten--a guy trying to beat a woman into unconsciousness so he could have sex with her while three men watched; or as it's known in ''Star Trek'', [[UnfortunateImplications FEMINISM]]."''
-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "Bounty"
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--> -- '''Virgina Woolf'''

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->''"Even when they formed their own religious group, these women still go on about shrivelled gonads and limp dicks. Talk about failing the Bechdel test."''
--> -- '''WebVideo/ThatSciFiGuy''', ''WebVideo/BadMovieBeatdown: The Shepherd''
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->''"And I tried to remember any case in the course of my reading where two women are represented as friends…They are now and then mothers and daughters. But almost without exception they are shown in their relation to men. It was strange to think that all the great women of fiction were, until Jane Austen’s day, not only seen by the other sex, but seen only in relation to the other sex. And how small a part of a woman’s life is that."''
--> -- '''Virgina Woolf'''

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