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->I'm just pretending that you know and moving on. Honestly, you make me sound like I alter wizard mythology every time you visit and '''act''' like everybody knows that's the way it was!
-->-- '''[[http://sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/080306 Gandledorf]]'''
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You know how sometimes you remember things a certain way but reality says "nope nuhuh that's not how it went get it right"? That's a retcon.
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(Kaalia is suddenly smacked over the head by a massive neon sign saying "RETCON!" in bright red letters, and now her armor looks far more like Shepard and Eisenhart's.)
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'''Kaalia''': ...ell. Huh, my head hurts a little.\\
'''Mana''': ...What just happened?\\
'''Greywind''': ... What the ... ?\\
'''Asagi''': Huh. Odd, don't usually see one so blatant.
-->-- ''Roleplay/WeAreOurAvatars''
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->''""he data we got from Arsenal Gear was a load of crap. Twelve founders who've all been dead for a hundred years? [[WhoWritesThisCrap Give me a break.]]"''
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-->-- ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' voice actor '''Creator/HarryShearer''', criticizing "The "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS9E2ThePrincipalAndThePauper The Principal and the Pauper"[[note]]specifically Pauper]]"[[note]]specifically the reveal/retcon that Seymour Skinner is actually Armin Tamzarian having stolen the ''actual'' Skinner's identity (to be fair, he assumed he was dead and didn't want to tell Edna, his mother)[[/note]]
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->''"In this feature we examine comic book stories and ideas that were not only abandoned, but also had the stories/plots specifically “overturned” [[CreativeDifferences by a later writer]] (as if they were a legal precedent)."''
-->--'''''Comics Should Be Good''''', ''The Abandoned An' Forsaked''
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->''""he data we got from Arsenal Gear was a load of crap. Twelve founders who've all been dead for a hundred years? [[WhoWritesThisCrap Give me a break.]]"''
-->--'''Solid Snake''', ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''
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->''The guy was killed in an auto accident! I looked it up! He was driving in the Yukon, in a pink convertible, to visit his brother who's an ex-con named Frances, when a tractor trailer comes along and decapitates him. You know what that mean, it means he doesn't have a head. How am I suppose to write for a guy who doesn't have a head? He's got no lips, no vocal cords. What do you want me to do?''
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->''"I wasn't thrilled with the Jackal's threats of [[MesACrowd genetically reengineering the entire human race]]. I felt it was a bit too "global" for a ''{{Spider-Man}}'' story. If you go back and read the original clone stories , you see that, when all is said and done, Miles Warren was a pathetic, lovesick, screwball scientist obsessed with the memory of [[ILetGwenStacyDie Gwen Stacy]], and he was desperate to [[LoveMakesYouEvil bring her back to life]] any way possible. He was also a {{split personality}}, and his "Jackal" personality led to him becoming a major crime figure. From a character standpoint, nowhere in any of this does a desire to reengineer the human race really come into play. For that matter, I never really understood why he [[OrcusOnHisThrone spent all those intervening years in a pod,]] genetically reengineering himself into a mutated version of his Jackal persona, but I guess that's more productive than sitting around in your underwear watching Godzilla movies."''
->--'''Editor/Writer Glenn Greenberg''' on ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga''
->--'''Editor/Writer Glenn Greenberg''' on ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga''
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->''There are ''no'' inconsistencies in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' books; occasionally, however, there are [[NoExceptYes alternate]] pasts.''
-->-- '''Creator/TerryPratchett'''
-->-- '''Creator/TerryPratchett'''
->''"That's so wrong. You're taking something that an audience has built eight years or nine years of investment in and just tossed it in the trash can for no good reason, for a story we've done before with other characters. It's so arbitrary and gratuitous, and it's disrespectful to the audience."''
-->-- ''{{Simpsons}}'' voice actor '''HarryShearer''', criticizing a dramatic retcon to a character he voices
-->-- ''{{Simpsons}}'' voice actor '''HarryShearer''', criticizing a dramatic retcon to a character he voices
->''"We have seen the first time Connor and Ramirez ever met were in Scotland. So it makes no freaking sense to all of a sudden say they knew each other before that point, knew they were immortals, and engaged in the contest prior to their knowing about it in the first movie. Its like if someone showed you a picture of a circle and asked you what the drawing was and you said 'Circle' and the guy bitch slaps you and says '[[TwoPlusTortureEqualsFive Its a square motherf*cker!!!]]'"''
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/highlander-2-the-quickeningrenegadespecial-edition-re-review/ on]] ''Film/HighlanderIITheQuickening''
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/highlander-2-the-quickeningrenegadespecial-edition-re-review/ on]] ''Film/HighlanderIITheQuickening''
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->''We have seen the first time Connor and Ramirez ever met were in Scotland. So it makes no freaking sense to all of a sudden say they knew each other before that point, knew they were immortals, and engaged in the contest prior to their knowing about it in the first movie. Its like if someone showed you a picture of a circle and asked you what the drawing was and you said “Circle” and the guy bitch slaps you and says “[[TwoPlusTortureEqualsFive Its a square motherf*cker!!!]]”''
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/highlander-2-the-quickeningrenegadespecial-edition-re-review/ on]] ''Film/HighlanderIITheQuickening''
->''There are ''no'' inconsistencies in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' books; ocassionally, however, there are alternate pasts.''
-->-- '''Creator/TerryPratchett'''
->''That's so wrong. You're taking something that an audience has built eight years or nine years of investment in and just tossed it in the trash can for no good reason, for a story we've done before with other characters. It's so arbitrary and gratuitous, and it's disrespectful to the audience.''
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->''That kind of retroactive digital meddling is annoying enough for a movie's fans -- but just try to imagine how disturbing it must be for the characters! Realizing that you suddenly remember things that you know didn't happen must be terribly disturbing, especially if they then go on to retroactively hold profound emotional meaning for you.''
->''I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take Franchise/{{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn't even had. I bet by now he's down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they're still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been]].''
->''I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take Franchise/{{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn't even had. I bet by now he's down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they're still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been]].''
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->''"In this feature we examine comic book stories and ideas that were not only abandoned, but also had the stories/plots specifically “overturned” by a later writer (as if they were a legal precedent)."''
-->--'''''Comics Should Be Good''''', ''The Abandoned An' Forsaked''
->''That kind of retroactive digital meddling is annoying enough for a movie's fans -- but just try to imagine how disturbing it must be for the characters! Realizing that you suddenly remember things that you know didn't happen must be terribly disturbing, especially if they then go on to retroactively hold profound emotional meaning for you.''
->''I\\\
I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take Franchise/{{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably [[SanitySlippage stumbles through life plagued by foggyvisions visions]] of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn't even had. I bet by now he's down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they're still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been]].''"''
-->--'''''Comics Should Be Good''''', ''The Abandoned An' Forsaked''
->''That kind of retroactive digital meddling is annoying enough for a movie's fans -- but just try to imagine how disturbing it must be for the characters! Realizing that you suddenly remember things that you know didn't happen must be terribly disturbing, especially if they then go on to retroactively hold profound emotional meaning for you.
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I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take Franchise/{{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably [[SanitySlippage stumbles through life plagued by foggy
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->''There are ''no'' inconsistencies in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' books; ocassionally, however, there are alternate pasts.''
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->That kind of retroactive digital meddling is annoying enough for a movie's fans -- but just try to imagine how disturbing it must be for the characters! Realizing that you suddenly remember things that you know didn't happen must be terribly disturbing, especially if they then go on to retroactively hold profound emotional meaning for you.
->I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take Franchise/{{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn't even had. I bet by now he's down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they're still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been]].
->I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take Franchise/{{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn't even had. I bet by now he's down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they're still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been]].
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->''I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take Franchise/{{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn't even had. I bet by now he's down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they're still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been]].''
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->It wasn't the right time when we met. It wasn't the right time when we started dating. It wasn't the right time when I moved to Miami. No, it was the right time to tell me when she showed up on your front step. That about right?" With that, she stalks off. Retcons are hard on everyone, Fi.
-->--'''TelevisionWithoutPity''', ''Series/BurnNotice''
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->''We have seen the first time Connor and Ramirez ever met were in Scotland. So it makes no freaking sense to all of a sudden say they knew each other before that point, knew they were immortals, and engaged in the contest prior to their knowing about it in the first movie. Its like if someone showed you a picture of a circle and asked you what the drawing was and you said “Circle” and the guy bitch slaps you and says “Its “[[TwoPlusTortureEqualsFive Its a square motherf*cker!!!”''motherf*cker!!!]]”''
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->''We have seen the first time Connor and Ramirez ever met were in Scotland. So it makes no freaking sense to all of a sudden say they knew each other before that point, knew they were immortals, and engaged in the contest prior to their knowing about it in the first movie. Its like if someone showed you a picture of a circle and asked you what the drawing was and you said “Circle” and the guy bitch slaps you and says “Its a square motherf*cker!!!”''
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/highlander-2-the-quickeningrenegadespecial-edition-re-review/ on]] ''Highlander 2: The Quickening''
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->I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take {{Batman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn't even had. I bet by now he's down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they're still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been]].
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->I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take {{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn’t even had. I bet by now he’s down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they’re still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been]].
->I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take {{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn’t even had. I bet by now he’s down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they’re still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been]].
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->That kind of retroactive digital meddling is annoying enough for a movie’s movie's fans -- but just try to imagine how disturbing it must be for the characters! Realizing that you suddenly remember things that you know didn’t didn't happen must be terribly disturbing, especially if they then go on to retroactively hold profound emotional meaning for you.
->I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take {{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" hehasn’t hasn't even had. I bet by now he’s he's down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they’re they're still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been]].
->I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take {{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he
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->I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take {{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn’t even had. I bet by now he’s down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they’re still alive -- or ever have been.
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->I guess this also explains why some comic characters are such tormented souls -- take {{Batman}}, for example. After decades of constant ret-cons, he probably stumbles through life plagued by foggy visions of his parents being killed by several different, mutually exclusive, villains, as well as vaguely recalling specific events involving several partners called "Robin" he hasn’t even had. I bet by now he’s down to randomly calling the people who mean something to him, just to make sure they’re still alive -- [[RetGone or ever have been.been]].