History Quotes / DesignatedVillain

18th Nov '16 5:34:31 AM VPhantom
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-->-- '''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2''

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-->-- '''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', '''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''', ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2''



-->-- '''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', ''Exclusives Showdown''

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-->-- '''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', '''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''', ''Exclusives Showdown''
2nd Sep '16 9:44:06 PM anza_sb
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-->--'''[[http://margolias-lulamoon.deviantart.com/art/Mars-and-Dr-J33-MSTs-My-Little-Unicorn-ch-12-402522583 Margolias-Lulamoon and Dr-J33]]''', on ''Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn''

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-->--'''[[http://margolias-lulamoon.-->-- '''[[http://margolias-lulamoon.deviantart.com/art/Mars-and-Dr-J33-MSTs-My-Little-Unicorn-ch-12-402522583 Margolias-Lulamoon and Dr-J33]]''', on ''Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn''



-->--''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''

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-->--''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''
-->-- ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''



-->--'''[[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/pop-between-realities-home-in-time-for-tea-74-merlin/ Jack Graham]]'''

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-->--'''[[http://www.-->-- '''[[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/pop-between-realities-home-in-time-for-tea-74-merlin/ Jack Graham]]'''



-->--'''''{{Website/Wrestlecrap}}''''' on ''Film/JingleAllTheWay''

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-->--'''''{{Website/Wrestlecrap}}''''' -->-- '''''{{Website/Wrestlecrap}}''''' on ''Film/JingleAllTheWay''



-->--'''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2''

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-->--'''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', -->-- '''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2''



-->--'''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', ''Exclusives Showdown''

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-->--'''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', -->-- '''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', ''Exclusives Showdown''



-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/voyager-season-five.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Equinox"

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-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.-->-- '''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/voyager-season-five.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Equinox"



-->--'''Chris Sims''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/the-x-men-episode-guide-4x07-sanctuary-part-2/ on]] ''WesternAnimation/{{X-Men}}, "Sanctuary, Part 2"

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-->--'''Chris -->-- '''Chris Sims''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/the-x-men-episode-guide-4x07-sanctuary-part-2/ on]] ''WesternAnimation/{{X-Men}}, "Sanctuary, Part 2"



-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-finale/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("Finale")

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-->--'''Chris -->-- '''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-finale/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("Finale")



-->--'''Neal Bailey''' [[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=reviews/smallville5-ep14 on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("Tomb")

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-->--'''Neal -->-- '''Neal Bailey''' [[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=reviews/smallville5-ep14 on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("Tomb")



-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/survival-of-the-dead-2009-george-a-romero/ on]] ''Film/SurvivalOfTheDead''

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-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment -->-- '''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/survival-of-the-dead-2009-george-a-romero/ on]] ''Film/SurvivalOfTheDead''



--> From [[http://exitpursuedbyasloth.tumblr.com/post/32945901645/mmanalysis-darkjez-chadmsicard-i-dig-this tumblr conversation]] about [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Perseus and Medusa]].

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--> From -->-- '''From [[http://exitpursuedbyasloth.tumblr.com/post/32945901645/mmanalysis-darkjez-chadmsicard-i-dig-this tumblr conversation]] this Tumblr conversation]]''' about [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Perseus and Medusa]].



->A matured Giygas is tasked with killing George so that humans may never know the power of PSI! But George and Maria are his only family... He gets over his moral dilemma by remembering that George was [[ArchnemesisDad the worst dad ever.]]
-->--'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xom77YACKiw LORE]]''', "[[{{VideoGame/MOTHER1}} EarthBound Lore]] in a Minute!"

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->A ->''"A matured Giygas is tasked with killing George so that humans may never know the power of PSI! But George and Maria are his only family... He gets over his moral dilemma by remembering that George was [[ArchnemesisDad the worst dad ever.]]
-->--'''[[https://www.
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-->-- '''[[https://www.
youtube.com/watch?v=xom77YACKiw LORE]]''', "[[{{VideoGame/MOTHER1}} EarthBound Lore]] in a Minute!"



-->--''WebVideo/OSWReview'' on ''Film/TheMarine 3: Homefront''

->It seems to me that if you want to show how evil the Borg are, you should come up with something a little more hostile than fighting to protect ''their own property'' from invaders. The Borg's evil plan is, 'Leave us alone! ...[-please?-]' Any time you can replace your hero with [[{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}} Zapp Brannigan]], you might want to reshape the story a little.
-->--{{Webite/SFDebris}} on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Endgame"

->Ohhh, but [[DeanBitterman he]]'s an underpaid civil servant trying to ensure that the spoiled, corrupt, moronic youth of this country get a proper education! [[SarcasmMode Truly a villain such as this needs to be punished and humiliated!]]
-->--[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Dr Insano]] on ''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff''

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-->--''WebVideo/OSWReview'' -->-- '''WebVideo/OSWReview''' on ''Film/TheMarine 3: Homefront''

->It ->''"It seems to me that if you want to show how evil the Borg are, you should come up with something a little more hostile than fighting to protect ''their own property'' from invaders. The Borg's evil plan is, 'Leave us alone! ...[-please?-]' Any time you can replace your hero with [[{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}} Zapp Brannigan]], you might want to reshape the story a little.
-->--{{Webite/SFDebris}}
little."''
-->-- '''{{Website/SFDebris}}'''
on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Endgame"

->Ohhh, ->''"Ohhh, but [[DeanBitterman he]]'s an underpaid civil servant trying to ensure that the spoiled, corrupt, moronic youth of this country get a proper education! [[SarcasmMode Truly a villain such as this needs to be punished and humiliated!]]
-->--[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment
humiliated!]]"''
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment
Dr Insano]] Insano]]''' on ''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff''
''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff''

->''"The only things these attractive people have done are be successful and offer a fair price for a robot and let a child have his wishes right? And yet, villains!"''
-->-- '''WebVideo/CinemaSins''' on Film/RealSteel
3rd May '16 5:16:05 PM MeekGazelle
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->Ohhh, but he's an underpaid civil servant trying to ensure that the spoiled, corrupt, moronic youth of this country get a proper education! [[SarcasmMode Truly a villain such as this needs to be punished and humiliated!]]

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->Ohhh, but he's [[DeanBitterman he]]'s an underpaid civil servant trying to ensure that the spoiled, corrupt, moronic youth of this country get a proper education! [[SarcasmMode Truly a villain such as this needs to be punished and humiliated!]]
3rd May '16 4:14:06 PM MeekGazelle
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->Ohhh, but he's an underpaid civil servant trying to ensure that the spoiled, corrupt, moronic youth of this country get a proper education! [[SarcasmMode Truly a villain such as this needs to be punished and humiliated!]]
-->--[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Dr Insano]] on ''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff''
24th Apr '16 11:46:22 AM RobTan
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->''[[VideoGame/{{Killzone}} Killzone: Shadow Fall]]'' is about the evil Helghast people being really resentful of the heroes having blown up their planet and killed their entire race. Cor, just can't let anything go, can they? It's funny; if you read the backstory to ''Killzone'', the running theme seems to be the Helghast getting fucked over a picket fence left-right-and-centre, but we're supposed to hate them for bearing a grudge! They could easily work as the heroes if they didn't have the image problem. [[ObviouslyEvil Glowing red eyes and Nazi hats]]; yeah, they could probably garner more sympathy if they swapped those out for some star-shaped sunglasses and a fez.
-->--'''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', ''Exclusives Showdown''
21st Apr '16 2:25:09 PM RobTan
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->But I must say that Blops 2 really breaks new ground in this genre of games for paranoid right-wing gun-nut shitheads who have become quite literal armchair generals now that their body fat has fused with the upholstery by telling the inspiring story of a determined Nicaraguan freedom fighter and his quest to find justice for his murdered family as he is hounded at every turn by the [[{{Eagleland}} American military]] as represented by a small cabal of fucking mental white dudes. Perspective really does count for a lot, doesn't it? The game tries to paint the villain as evil by showing him shotgun the legs off his unarmed foes, but all I could think was that the intended audience would be guffawing clouds of inexpensive beer if it had been [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique Jack Bauer]] doing that.
-->--'''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation''', ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2''
13th Jan '16 4:10:30 PM nombretomado
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-->--'''[[TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/survival-of-the-dead-2009-george-a-romero/ on]] ''Film/SurvivalOfTheDead''

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-->--'''[[TheSpoonyExperiment -->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/survival-of-the-dead-2009-george-a-romero/ on]] ''Film/SurvivalOfTheDead''
26th Sep '15 7:54:23 PM hamonrye
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[[AC:Fan Works]]

->'''Dr-J33:''' Remind me why [Titan] is the badguy again?\\
'''Mars:''' Because the author says so.
-->--'''[[http://margolias-lulamoon.deviantart.com/art/Mars-and-Dr-J33-MSTs-My-Little-Unicorn-ch-12-402522583 Margolias-Lulamoon and Dr-J33]]''', on ''Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn''

[[AC:Webcomics]]



->The alien race that abducted the couple entrusted them with raising an infant known as Giygas. (Because humans make excellent extraterrestrial baby-sitters.) Maria raised Giygas as one of her own, doing motherly things likes singing him lullabies, while George studied the alien's PSI powers without permission. He then inexplicably returns to Podunk two years later, leaving his family behind. (What a terrible, ''terrible'' father.) George, having stolen the secrets of PSI, is now a wanted man. A matured Giygas is tasked with killing George so that humans may never know the power of PSI! But George and Maria are his only family... He gets over his moral dilemma by remembering that George was [[ArchnemesisDad the worst dad ever.]]
-->--'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xom77YACKiw LORE]]''', "[[{{VideoGame/MOTHER1}} EarthBound Lore]] in a Minute!"

->Yeah, any governing body that calls itself "The Authority" probably aren't distributing free t-shirts to war widows, but I wish the game would ''establish'' that rather than just ask me to assume it.
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' On VideoGame/{{Rage}}

->Why is the main character even going after the Black Knight in the first place? For all I know, he's just pissed off that the country is less dependent on foreign imports, while the country's GDP has increased by 20 percent over the last five years!
-->-- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TINvUbTdt4k Urinating Tree]] on the protagonist from ''VideoGame/DarkCastle''

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->The alien race that abducted [[AC:Web Original]]

->They must shut up and put up, and [[{{Glurge}}wait forebearingly in hope for reform]], or they become malignant. To resist is to become wicked, by definition...I’ve always cheered for
the couple entrusted baddies. I've always empathised and sympathised with them with raising an infant known as Giygas. (Because humans make excellent extraterrestrial baby-sitters.) Maria raised Giygas as one of her own, doing motherly things likes singing him lullabies, while George studied the alien's PSI powers without permission. He then inexplicably returns to Podunk two years later, leaving his family behind. (What a terrible, ''terrible'' father.) George, having stolen the secrets of PSI, is now a wanted man. A matured Giygas is tasked with killing George so that humans may never know the power of PSI! But George and Maria are his only family... He gets over his moral dilemma by remembering that George was [[ArchnemesisDad the worst dad ever.]]
-->--'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xom77YACKiw LORE]]''', "[[{{VideoGame/MOTHER1}} EarthBound Lore]] in a Minute!"

->Yeah, any governing body that calls itself "The Authority" probably aren't distributing free t-shirts to war widows, but I wish the game would ''establish'' that rather
more than just ask me to assume it.
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' On VideoGame/{{Rage}}

->Why is
the main character even going after heroes, the Black Knight in lovers, the first place? For all I know, he's just pissed off that plucky kids, the country is less dependent on foreign imports, while brave dogs, etc. It’s quite startling how often the country's GDP has increased ‘baddies’ are considerably more sympathetic, how often they are declared bad by 20 percent over the last five years!
-->-- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TINvUbTdt4k Urinating Tree]] on the protagonist from ''VideoGame/DarkCastle''
authorial fiat, how often they have a good point.
-->--'''[[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/pop-between-realities-home-in-time-for-tea-74-merlin/ Jack Graham]]'''



->'''Jay''': We meet our antagonist, Jonas Pope (played by [=Neal McDonough=], who was also in The Rock's ''Film/{{Walking Tall|2004}}''). Instead of stealing the cash, the group burn it, making a statement calling banks greedy and that they should [[JustLikeRobinHood only take what they need]].\\
'''V1''': I thought that was pretty cool! Immediately he's less of fuckin' black-and-white, ''"he's evil, [[Wrestling/TheMiz Miz]] is good"'', he's got a reason for doing what he's doing, and it makes sense. And that's the route to all good baddies: you should empathize with them.\\
'''Jay''': I feel [[ThisIsGonnaSuck a bit worried about that]]. Like, you need ''good writing'' to follow that. Otherwise you risk people hating the good guy and liking the bad guy.\\
'''V1''': That's what happened to me, of course.
-->--''WebVideo/OSWReview'' on ''Film/TheMarine 3: Homefront''

->It seems to me that if you want to show how evil the Borg are, you should come up with something a little more hostile than fighting to protect ''their own property'' from invaders. The Borg's evil plan is, 'Leave us alone... please?' Any time you can replace your hero with [[{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}} Zapp Brannigan]], you might want to reshape the story a little.
-->--{{Webite/SFDebris}} on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Endgame"

->They suggest there is a massive gulf between Ransom’s approach and Janeway’s, and whilst one ship is pristine thanks to its Captain’s decisions and one is on the verge of collapse (yay ''Equinox'', boo ''Voyager''), she has also made some morally unsound choices and taken the occasional questionable measure to push herself along. It's what makes Ransom a more satisfying character (despite the fact he only appears in one story) because he at least knows the kind of man he is (one who will go to any lengths to get home) whereas Janeway has convinced herself that [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality she always takes the moral high ground]] when that is hardly the case on an episode-by-episode basis. When Ransom opens up to Janeway and says that there were times that they almost forgot that they were human beings, the good Captain should have been [[NotSoDifferent a little more savvy]] at what he is actually trying to tell her about the situation they are currently in. I realise she is [[BotheringByTheBook just following protocol]] (groan) but when Janeway starts throwing her weight around and taking command of Ransom I would have felt a bit miffed too. ‘My ship's better than yours [[GunboatDiplomacy so I’m in charge]]’ is basically how she comes across. She comes across as an unthinking bully when she condemns Ransom for his crimes but forgets that she once [[EnemyMine got in bed with the Borg to help destroy another species]] in order to plot a course safely through their realm. Talk about self delusion!

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->'''Jay''': We meet our antagonist, Jonas Pope (played by [=Neal McDonough=], who was also in The Rock's ''Film/{{Walking Tall|2004}}''). Instead of stealing the cash, the group burn it, making a statement calling banks greedy and that they should [[JustLikeRobinHood only take what they need]].\\
'''V1''': I thought that was pretty cool! Immediately he's less of fuckin' black-and-white, ''"he's evil, [[Wrestling/TheMiz Miz]] is good"'', he's got a reason for doing what he's doing, and it makes sense. And that's the route to all good baddies: you should empathize with them.\\
'''Jay''': I feel [[ThisIsGonnaSuck a bit worried about that]]. Like, you need ''good writing'' to follow that. Otherwise you risk people hating the good guy and liking the bad guy.\\
'''V1''': That's what happened to me, of course.
-->--''WebVideo/OSWReview'' on ''Film/TheMarine 3: Homefront''

->It seems to me that if you want to show how evil the Borg are, you should come up with something a little more hostile than fighting to protect ''their own property'' from invaders. The Borg's evil plan is, 'Leave us alone... please?' Any time you can replace your hero with [[{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}} Zapp Brannigan]], you might want to reshape the story a little.
-->--{{Webite/SFDebris}} on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Endgame"

->They suggest there is a massive gulf between Ransom’s approach and Janeway’s, and whilst one ship is pristine thanks to its Captain’s decisions and one is on the verge of collapse (yay ''Equinox'', boo ''Voyager''), she has also made some morally unsound choices and taken the occasional questionable measure to push herself along. It's what makes Ransom a more satisfying character (despite the fact he only appears in one story) story), because he at least knows the kind of man he is (one who will go to any lengths to get home) whereas Janeway has convinced herself that [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality she always takes the moral high ground]] ground when that is hardly the case on an episode-by-episode basis. When Ransom opens up to Janeway and says that there were times that they almost forgot that they were human beings, the good Captain should have been [[NotSoDifferent a little more savvy]] at what he is actually trying to tell her about the situation they are currently in. I realise she is [[BotheringByTheBook just following protocol]] (groan) but when Janeway starts throwing her weight around and taking command of Ransom I would have felt a bit miffed too. ‘My ship's better than yours [[GunboatDiplomacy so I’m in charge]]’ is basically how she comes across. She comes across as an unthinking bully when she condemns Ransom for his crimes but forgets that she once [[EnemyMine got in bed with the Borg to help destroy another species]] in order to plot a course safely through their realm. Talk about self delusion!



->In the first part of 'Sanctuary,' {{ComicBook/Magneto}} made what was — for his situation — the perfectly rational decision to throw a giant rock out into space and build a little town on it so that he could live without fear of being murdered by giant racist robots and the people who build them. He also announced his intentions to do this peacefully and then singlehandedly liberated a concentration camp while our heroes stood around and watched, and for some reason, everyone got ''super pissed off'' about this... Magneto blows up his own asteroid because his plan of peaceful isolation from the racist humans has been [=FUBARed.=]\\\
[[NiceJobBreakingItHero Good job, X-Men!]]

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->In the first part of 'Sanctuary,' {{ComicBook/Magneto}} made what was — for his situation — the perfectly rational decision to throw a giant rock out into space and build a little town on it so that he could live without fear of being murdered by giant racist robots and the people who build them. He also announced his intentions to do this peacefully and then singlehandedly liberated a concentration camp while our heroes stood around and watched, and for some reason, everyone got ''super pissed off'' about this... Magneto blows up his own asteroid because his plan of peaceful isolation from the racist humans has been [=FUBARed.=]\\\
[[NiceJobBreakingItHero Good job, X-Men!]]
this.



->It’s a story with the names of the characters, and some of the major scenes, but the underlying narrative simply isn’t the story of Superman. It’s about [[DesignatedVillain a guy with an asshole father who got stuck in a podunk town and casually betrayed by every friend he made]], including a superhuman who professed to be his best friend but constantly doubted him behind his back and lied to him to his face. When the show embraced that and stopped pretending it was about Superman, that was when the show was it its best. The themes it trades in aren’t the themes of the Superman myth. It’s about secrets and betrayals and [[{{Wangst}} f*** you dad]]. When the show lost its protagonist, Lex, then it became an empty shell that [[PanderingToTheBase traded on rote pandering towards fans of scenes and characters we all recognize from other media.]]

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->It’s a story with the names of the characters, and some of the major scenes, but the underlying narrative simply isn’t the story of Superman. It’s about [[DesignatedVillain [[UsefulNotes/LexLuthor a guy with an asshole father who got stuck in a podunk town and casually betrayed by every friend he made]], made, including a superhuman who professed to be his best friend but constantly doubted him behind his back and lied to him to his face. face.]] When the show embraced that and stopped pretending it was about Superman, that was when the show was it its best. The themes it trades in aren’t the themes of the Superman myth. It’s about secrets and betrayals and [[{{Wangst}} f*** you dad]]. best... When the show lost its protagonist, Lex, then it became an empty shell that [[PanderingToTheBase traded on rote pandering towards fans fans]] of scenes and characters we all recognize from other media.]]



->The inhabitants have it pretty good in that they can sustain themselves on the island by ranching and zombies can’t get them because of being surrounded by water. One of the family leaders, O’Flynn, decides it may just be in the best interests of everyone if they killed the few remaining zombies left on the island. Because you know, I would feel a lot safer if I didn’t think my sleep would be interrupted by a zombie eating my intestines like a four year old eats a plate of spaghetti. The other family, the Muldoons, thinks [[AndThatsTerrible that is a monstrous idea]] and banish O’Flynn from the island. I then decided to rename the island [[IdiotPlot Moron Island]] because I could not identify with any of the people or their actions.

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->The inhabitants have it pretty good in that they can sustain themselves on the island by ranching and zombies can’t get them because of being surrounded by water. One ->One of the family leaders, O’Flynn, decides it may just be in the best interests of everyone if they killed the few remaining zombies left on the island. Because you know, I would feel a lot safer if I didn’t think my sleep would be interrupted by a zombie eating my intestines like a four year old eats a plate of spaghetti. The other family, the Muldoons, thinks [[AndThatsTerrible that is a monstrous idea]] idea and banish O’Flynn from the island. I then decided to rename the island [[IdiotPlot Moron Island]] because I could not identify with any of the people or their actions.



->I still refuse to believe that the old way of life was ''that'' peaceful, especially if [[FridgeLogic it needed dragon riders to keep everyone in line]]. Also, we haven't been told that they operated under a democratic system or anything, so as far as we know, it was still a dictatorship, only with more than one person dishing out the orders. Seems to me that having just one dictator would bring a bit more stability. But you can't expect a nineteen-year-old fanfiction writer to understand that sort of subtlety. The King is evil because he says so, period, and that applies to the movie, too.
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' [[http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Eragon.aspx recap]] of ''Film/{{Eragon}}''

->I found myself symphatising with the "bad guy" and being irritated by the heroes. Rather than have the villain actually do anything bad, the other characters simply constantly behave like he was a terrible person and stated how much they didn't like him. The situation was so poorly put together that when the villain was killed it felt incredibly disproportionate to his relatively minor crimes!
-->'''Harkovast''', [[http://www.drunkduck.com/The_Webcomic_Review_Comic_On_The_Web/5291657/ The Webcomics Review Comics On The Web]] about The Chronolicles of Wyrden.

->''As you say yourself, the "bad guy" was not really that bad, and yet the story seemed determined to heap every punishment imaginable on him while having EVERY character in the story (even ones who had barely met him) say how much they wanted to see him die!''
->''Interactions like "I want to rip out his heart!" "Does he even have heart?"''
->''What the hell did this guy do to get so much hate?''
->''Yeah he seems like a jerk, but they talk about him like he's the second coming of super hitler!''
->''The guy finds someone is shagging his wife AND both daughters ([[{{Squick}} urrggh!]]) they brutally shoot him the face and then his soul gets eaten by a giant demon wolf!''
->''Even fucking death insults the poor bastard!''
->''The universe lines up to piss on this man and everyone says he deserves it.''
-->'''Harkovast''', in the forum [[http://www.drunkduck.com/forum/topic/173698/ thread]] about ''Chronolicles of Wydren''.

->''"Not to mention all this shit went down while she was pregnant with twins, the Pegasus and the giant Chrysaor, as a result from the rape. Perseus would mount Pegasus, and use him and Medusa’s head to kill a sea monster, thus winning him a wife, Andromeda. Medusa was cursed by the very goddess she served, Athena, who also gave Perseus the mirrored shield he used to slay her. Raped, betrayed by her god, hunted down like a beast in her own home while she was pregnant, her own children stolen from her and used to glorify and aide her killers and betrayers. And ''she’s'' supposed to be the monster?"''

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->I still refuse to believe that the old way of life was ''that'' peaceful, especially if [[FridgeLogic it needed dragon riders to keep everyone in line]]. Also, we haven't been told that they operated under a democratic system or anything, so as far as we know, it was still a dictatorship, only with more than one person dishing out the orders. Seems to me that having just one dictator would bring a bit more stability. But you can't expect a nineteen-year-old fanfiction writer to understand that sort of subtlety. The King is evil because he says so, period, and that applies to the movie, too.
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' [[http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Eragon.aspx recap]] of ''Film/{{Eragon}}''

->I found myself symphatising with the "bad guy" and being irritated by the heroes. Rather than have the villain actually do anything bad, the other characters simply constantly behave like he was a terrible person and stated how much they didn't like him. The situation was so poorly put together that when the villain was killed it felt incredibly disproportionate to his relatively minor crimes!
-->'''Harkovast''', [[http://www.drunkduck.com/The_Webcomic_Review_Comic_On_The_Web/5291657/ The Webcomics Review Comics On The Web]] about The Chronolicles of Wyrden.

->''As you say yourself, the "bad guy" was not really that bad, and yet the story seemed determined to heap every punishment imaginable on him while having EVERY character in the story (even ones who had barely met him) say how much they wanted to see him die!''
->''Interactions like "I want to rip out his heart!" "Does he even have heart?"''
->''What the hell did this guy do to get so much hate?''
->''Yeah he seems like a jerk, but they talk about him like he's the second coming of super hitler!''
->''The guy finds someone is shagging his wife AND both daughters ([[{{Squick}} urrggh!]]) they brutally shoot him the face and then his soul gets eaten by a giant demon wolf!''
->''Even fucking death insults the poor bastard!''
->''The universe lines up to piss on this man and everyone says he deserves it.''
-->'''Harkovast''', in the forum [[http://www.drunkduck.com/forum/topic/173698/ thread]] about ''Chronolicles of Wydren''.

->''"Not to mention all this shit went down while she was pregnant with twins, the Pegasus and the giant Chrysaor, as a result from the rape. Perseus would mount Pegasus, and use him and Medusa’s head to kill a sea monster, thus winning him a wife, Andromeda. Medusa
->''"Medusa was cursed by the very goddess she served, Athena, who also gave Perseus the mirrored shield he used to slay her. Raped, betrayed by her god, hunted down like a beast in her own home while she was pregnant, her own children stolen from her and used to glorify and aide her killers and betrayers. And ''she’s'' supposed to be the monster?"''



->'''Dr-J33:''' ''Remind me why [Titan] is the badguy again?''
-> '''Mars:''' ''Because the author says so.''
-->--'''[[http://margolias-lulamoon.deviantart.com/art/Mars-and-Dr-J33-MSTs-My-Little-Unicorn-ch-12-402522583 Margolias-Lulamoon and Dr-J33]]''', on ''Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn''
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->'''Dr-J33:''' ''Remind me why [Titan] [[AC:Web Video]]

->A matured Giygas
is tasked with killing George so that humans may never know the badguy again?''
-> '''Mars:''' ''Because
power of PSI! But George and Maria are his only family... He gets over his moral dilemma by remembering that George was [[ArchnemesisDad the author says so.''
-->--'''[[http://margolias-lulamoon.deviantart.com/art/Mars-and-Dr-J33-MSTs-My-Little-Unicorn-ch-12-402522583 Margolias-Lulamoon
worst dad ever.]]
-->--'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xom77YACKiw LORE]]''', "[[{{VideoGame/MOTHER1}} EarthBound Lore]] in a Minute!"

->'''Jay''': Instead of stealing the cash, the group burn it, making a statement calling banks greedy
and Dr-J33]]''', that they should [[JustLikeRobinHood only take what they need]].\\
'''V1''': I thought that was pretty cool! Immediately he's less of fuckin' black-and-white, ''"he's evil, [[Wrestling/TheMiz Miz]] is good"'', he's got a reason for doing what he's doing, and it makes sense. And that's the route to all good baddies: you should empathize with them.\\
'''Jay''': I feel [[ThisIsGonnaSuck a bit worried about that]]. Like, you need ''good writing'' to follow that. Otherwise you risk people hating the good guy and liking the bad guy.\\
'''V1''': (That's what happened to me, of course.)
-->--''WebVideo/OSWReview''
on ''Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn''
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''Film/TheMarine 3: Homefront''

->It seems to me that if you want to show how evil the Borg are, you should come up with something a little more hostile than fighting to protect ''their own property'' from invaders. The Borg's evil plan is, 'Leave us alone! ...[-please?-]' Any time you can replace your hero with [[{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}} Zapp Brannigan]], you might want to reshape the story a little.
-->--{{Webite/SFDebris}} on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Endgame"

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-->'''Harkovast''', [[http://www.drunkduck.com/The_Webcomic_Review_Comic_On_The_Web/5291657/ The Webcomics Review Comics On The Web]] about TheChronoliclesOfWyrden.

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-->'''Harkovast''', [[http://www.drunkduck.com/The_Webcomic_Review_Comic_On_The_Web/5291657/ The Webcomics Review Comics On The Web]] about TheChronoliclesOfWyrden.
The Chronolicles of Wyrden.
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->In the first part of 'Sanctuary,' {{ComicBook/Magneto}} made what was — for his situation — the perfectly rational decision to throw a giant rock out into space and build a little town on it so that he could live without fear of being murdered by giant racist robots and the people who build them. He also announced his intentions to do this peacefully and then singlehandedly liberated a concentration camp while our heroes stood around and watched, and for some reason, everyone got ''super pissed off'' about this...Magneto blows up his own asteroid because his plan of peaceful isolation from the racist humans has been [=FUBARed.=]\\\

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->In the first part of 'Sanctuary,' {{ComicBook/Magneto}} made what was — for his situation — the perfectly rational decision to throw a giant rock out into space and build a little town on it so that he could live without fear of being murdered by giant racist robots and the people who build them. He also announced his intentions to do this peacefully and then singlehandedly liberated a concentration camp while our heroes stood around and watched, and for some reason, everyone got ''super pissed off'' about this... Magneto blows up his own asteroid because his plan of peaceful isolation from the racist humans has been [=FUBARed.=]\\\
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