History Quotes / DRACOINLEATHERPANTS

->'''Yang:''' Is that why you chose to lie to everyone about [[TheQuisling Lionheart]] too?
'''Ozpin:''' Yes, as a matter of fact, I believed the Kingdom of Mistral deserved better than the [[AwfulTruth truth]]. And I believed Leonardo deserved to be remembered for his lifetime of service, and not for the [[{{Understatement}} unfortunate missteps]] he made in his final years.

-->--Website/{{Twitter}}, in response to tweets like [[https://twitter.com/continetti/status/656474629364666368 these]] [[https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/656475848816635904 ones]] that frame TheEmpire as the real heroes of ''Franchise/StarWars''

-->--Website/{{Twitter}}, in response to tweets (like [[https://twitter.com/continetti/status/656474629364666368 these]] [[https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/656475848816635904 ones]]) about TheEmpire from ''Franchise/StarWars''

->'''Ned Resnikoff:''' The internal politics of Franchise/StarWars aren't coherent enough to support any Actually, {{the Empire}} Was Good takes

-->--Website/{{Twitter}}, in response to tweets like [[https://twitter.com/continetti/status/656474629364666368 these]] [[https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/656475848816635904 ones]]

->''There are some people who are more codependent in terms of mindset that think, "Oh, this poor soul. I can fix him. I can be important in his life,"''

-->--'''[[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/meat-is-murder-hannibal-true-detective-and-the-anthropocene-extinction/ Phil Sandifer]]'''

-->-- '''[=PoorQuentyn=] in his post [[http://poorquentyn.tumblr.com/post/120497478148/big-walder-the-builder Big Walder the Builder]]

-->-- Poor Quentyn in his post [[http://poorquentyn.tumblr.com/post/120497478148/big-walder-the-builder Big Walder the Builder]]

But I like you, you're the strongest of the all.''

->'Sure, he’s an ass' or 'and yes, he’s a {{troll}}' or 'he’s known for offending people' (which are, for most men, [[TestosteronePoisoning compliments]]). In other words, they took [[{{Jerkass}} the Worst Possible Person]], as one headline read, and still managed to reposition him as merely a prankster, a trickster, a rascal. And who doesn’t like a '[[LovableRogue lovable scoundrel]]'?

-->--'''Linkara''', WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall

[[folder:Web original]]

->''"[[http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/597610.html?thread=374879850#t374879850 Fandom ruins villains. Every single one. Forever and ever, amen. It doesn't matter what they've done, what they'd do, how bad it was, how much they enjoyed it and how much they want to do it again -- you best believe somebody out there reckons Rapist [=McNazi=] is Lord Sexington]]."''
-->-- A comment from a Fandom Secrets post.

->I'm trying to clearly distinguish between Creator/TomFelton, who is a good looking young boy, and Draco, who, whatever he looks like, is not a nice man. It’s a romantic-but-unhealthy and unfortunately all too common delusion of girls.
-->-- '''Creator/JKRowling'''

->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. It’s a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen. Also, unlike the divine-right Jedi, the Empire is a meritocracy...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth...Whatever the case, the important thing to recognize is that the Empire is not committing random acts of terror. It is engaged in a fight for the survival of its regime against a violent group of rebels who are committed to its destruction...I'll take the Empire.

->''Cool motive. Still murder.''
-->-- '''Jake''', ''{{Series/BrooklynNineNine}}''. A quote [[MemeticMutation commonly used]] in response to fans who put Draco in leather pants.

->That's what you've never really understood about {{the undead}}, [[ILoveTheDead Tsukiko]]. You treat them like they're people when they're nothing but bits of skin and bone and dark energy, glued together by magic into the shape of a man. [...] See, the undead are tools. Powerful, dangerous tools. From the lowliest [[EverythingsDeaderWithZombies zombie]] to [[OurLichesAreDifferent Xykon]] himself, the undead are just complex weapons that we make and aim at other people.

->''Sure, Kim Jong-un is a brutal dictator who starves and kills his own people. But he was pretty chill when we hung out!'' Dennis Rodman is a [[AttentionWhore Q-list celebrity]] willing to commit borderline treason just to hang out with a dictator who himself aspires to be a Q-list celebrity. It's all hilarious, until you remember there are millions of people who can't leave this Kingdom of the Absurd without [[TheCaligula taking a bullet to the head.]]

->Another flaw I would say is present in the movie is (Sidney) Lumet has obviously fallen for the charm of the Luchese crime family much like the jury of the trial has. Lumet films them as the good guys fighting against a corrupt and '''''[[StrawmanPolitical EEEEEEEVVVVVIIIIILLLL]]''''' District Attorney and shows their fight as something triumphant. Even he seems to forget the fact that these guys are murderers, drug dealers, rapists, thieves, and just about every other vile crime in the books. No matter how much Lumet wanted to present these guys as charming and lovable, I felt sick to my stomach that [[KarmaHoudini these guys fooled so many people and that none of them were really punished.]]

->'Sure, he’s an ass' or 'and yes, he’s a {{troll}}' or 'he’s known for offending people' (which are, for most men, [[TestosteronePoisoning compliments]]). In other words, they took the Worst Possible Person, as one headline read, and still managed to reposition him as merely a prankster, a trickster, a rascal. And who doesn’t like a '[[LovableRogue lovable scoundrel]]'?

-->--'''[[http://dlisted.com/2015/01/09/bill-cosby-made-a-rape-joke-during-his-show-and-the-audience-loved-it/ Michael K.]]''', "Bill Cosby Made A Rape Joke During His Show And The Audience Loved It"

->''Big Walder Frey is my favorite minor character. This is true in large part because while ruthless ambition is generally corrosive in adults, I find it oddly charming in little kids.''

->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. It’s a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', ''The Weekly Standard'', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"

->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. It’s a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"

-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"

->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator — but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. It’s a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.

->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator — but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. It’s a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.

->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator — but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. It’s a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts)...Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke’s aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren’t given due process, but they are traitors.

->People aren't very bright, you know. They say they want freedom, but when they get the chance, they pass up Nietzsche and choose Hitler, because he would march into a room and [[EvilIsCool music and lights would come on at strategic moment]]s. It was rather like a rock 'n' roll concert.

-->Website/{{Twitter}}, in response to tweets like [[https://twitter.com/continetti/status/656474629364666368 these]] [[https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/656475848816635904 ones]]

->It's weird, no matter how many people Thog kills, the audience still thinks he's lovable.
-->-- Tarquin from ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', in what is also a case of ObliviousToHisOwnDescription and TakeThatAudience.

->'''Fooker''': What's ''wrong'' with you? Are you ''sure'' you're the same chick who [[GroinAttack crunched my boys]]? Sam treats you like dirt. He ignores you. He walks all over you. And when half the campus says he [[YourCheatingHeart cheated on you]], you ''defend'' him!\\
'''Ki''': You don't know him like I do! I see past the lies and see him as he really is!\\

->'''David:''' Wolverine comes across the scar from where he stabbed her in the previous movie, and she point-blank tells him she’s [[BondageIsBad into guys who hurt her]].\\
'''Chris''': And yet, the ComicBook/HarleyQuinn fan community didn’t immediately jump on making Steampunk Mystique costumes for Comic-Con ’04.

->The audience was mesmerized by [[Creator/MarlonBrando Brando]] and so found Blanche--his {{foil}}--somewhat ridiculous. At the time even [[TennesseeWilliams Tennessee]] agreed that Brando's appearance in the theater was unique and there was no way that Jessica Tandy could compete with him. She seemed all [[HystericalWoman tics and mannerisms]] while he was the [[RatedMForManly male principle writ large]].

-->--'''Creator/GoreVidal''' on ''AStreetcarNamedDesire'', ''Point to Point Navigation''