History Quotes / CreatorKiller

->"''Film/TheWarriors'' opened a lot of doors for me, which ''{{Film/Xanadu}}'' then closed."
-->--'''Michael Beck'''

->''Your days as a game developer are absolutely over.''
-->-- Email found in Creator/JohnRomero's inbox during ''{{VideoGame/Daikatana}}''[='s=] development

-->-- '''[[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/the-sunchaser-1996-michael-cimino/ Miles Antwiler]]''', proving {{it runs in the family}}

· ''Clockwork Knight'': [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible Fuck this.]]

-->-- '''Chris Sims''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/catwoman-movie-review-2/ on]] Jean-Christophe "Pitof" Comar, director of ''Film/{{Catwoman}}'' (2004)

->''Film/TheWarriors'' opened a lot of doors for me, which ''{{Film/Xanadu}}'' then closed.

->Killed his career? Son, I hope it put a stake in its heart, sawed its head off and filled its mouth with garlic.

->''"I don't know what it is, but I feel like I'm in some sort of creative rot. This must be like what [[Creator/OrsonWelles Welles]] felt like after he wrapped Film/CitizenKane and complete an utter despair of genius as what to do next."''
-->-- '''Martin''', ''WebAnimation/CartoonMonsoon'' '''Oh, Shoot!: Script, Cries and Videotape'''

->When I started this project, I had one basic idea: albums that flopped so hard, that they ended careers. But how do you measure a flop album? By critical success? Critics didn't like Music/{{Styx}} to begin with, so it wasn't like a drop in form or anything. By commercial failure? ''Music/{{Kilroy Was Here}}'' sold pretty well. Granted, a bad reception doesn't manifest right away. Sometimes, you can't see it in solid numbers until the follow-up. But we can't look at how the follow-up did because there wasn't one. No, the album killed Styx in the most direct way possible: ''it broke up the band.''
-->-- '''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvZPaH7QIVI on]] Music/{{Styx}}'s ''Music/KilroyWasHere''

->''"Killed his career? Son, I hope it put a stake in its heart, sawed its head off and filled its mouth with garlic."''

-> '''Creator/QuentinTarantino:''' There's quite a few directors where you can't believe the work that they did in the '70s is the work that they're doing now. You know, you can't believe it's the same man.
-> '''Charlie Rose:''' And what do you think happened?
-> '''Tarantino:''' Well, oddly enough, I actually kind of see what happens, all right. It usually has to do with ''one film''. ...I mean, like, you see them growing, or building, or whatever, and...they do one film, and usually it's a film that they're very personal about...that they care a lot about, and, one, not only does it not do well, it's not recognized. Okay, now maybe they did a bad job with it, or maybe they did a terrific job with it, all right, but...they get nothing for it. They get slapped in the face for it. ...And you could tell that the film had a real personal feeling to them.
-> '''Rose:''' Yeah. They really had put it out on the table.
-> '''Tarantino:''' They really put it out on the table. ...And then, from that point on...you can just see all of a sudden they started doing star vehicles.
-> '''Rose:''' Yeah.
-> '''Tarantino:''' All of a sudden they just started doing program films, and then, six, seven years down the line it's like, whatever originality, whatever special personality that they had, completely doesn't exist any more.
-->-- Charlie Rose, 1996 interview with Quentin Tarantino

--> '''Charlie Rose:''' And what do you think happened?
--> '''Tarantino:''' Well, oddly enough, I actually kind of see what happens, all right. It usually has to do with ''one film''. ...I mean, like, you see them growing, or building, or whatever, and...they do one film, and usually it's a film that they're very personal about...that they care a lot about, and, one, not only does it not do well, it's not recognized. Okay, now maybe they did a bad job with it, or maybe they did a terrific job with it, all right, but...they get nothing for it. They get slapped in the face for it. ...And you could tell that the film had a real personal feeling to them.
--> '''Rose:''' Yeah. They really had put it out on the table.
--> '''Tarantino:''' They really put it out on the table. ...And then, from that point on...you can just see all of a sudden they started doing star vehicles.
--> '''Rose:''' Yeah.
--> '''Tarantino:''' All of a sudden they just started doing program films, and then, six, seven years down the line it's like, whatever originality, whatever special personality that they had, completely doesn't exist any more.

->When I started this project, I had one basic idea: albums that flopped so hard, that they ended careers. But how do you measure a flop album? By critical success? Critics didn't like Styx to begin with, so it wasn't like a drop in form or anything. By commercial failure? ''Music/{{Kilroy Was Here}}'' sold pretty well. Granted, a bad reception doesn't manifest right away. Sometimes, you can't see it in solid numbers until the follow-up. But we can't look at how the follow-up did because there wasn't one. No, the album killed Styx in the most direct way possible: ''it broke up the band.''

->''"I don't know what it is, but I feel like I'm in some sort of creative rot. This must be like what [[Creator/OrsonWelles Welles]] felt like after he wrapped Film/CitizenKane and completed an utter despair of genius as what to do next."''

->''"I don't know what it is, but I feel like I'm in some sort of creative rot. This must be like what Welles felt like after he wrapped Citizen Kane and completed an utter despair of genius as what to do next."''

The cameras have gone silent. They no longer speak to me. My muse has lost her voice.

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->'''Mario:''' Creator/MikeMyers was once a very funny man.\\
'''Fafa:''' And if you watch ''Film/TheLoveGuru'', you'll actually see his career flushin' down the toilet.\\
'''Mario:''' I...I...I can't watch this.
-->-- ''WebVideo/GloveAndBoots'', "Nine Movies That Make Men Cry"

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->''"Killed his career? Son, I hope it put a stake in its heart, sawed its head off and filled its mouth with garlic."''
-->-- '''Chris Sims''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/catwoman-movie-review-2/ on]] Jean-Christophe "Pitof" Comar, director of ''Film/{{Catwoman}}'' (2004)

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--> ''WebVideo/GloveAndBoots'', "Nine Movies That Make Men Cry"

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->We know what happens when the publisher shits the bed, but what about when the ''developer'' earns the displeasure of the hotel chambermaid? When they are given ''too much'' development time as opposed to too little, as the publisher comforts themselves with the knowledge that even Creator/StanleyKubrick once took 170 takes to the same scene (willfully ignoring the fact that while Stanley Kubrick was a flighty auteur genius, the same behavior pattern could easily be displayed by an incompetent spod with no planning skills [[SmallNameBigEgo and an indirectly proportional ego]])?
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/{{Daikatana}}''

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->''"[[Film/{{Scarface|1983}} The world is yours,]]" proclaimed Square's legions of new fans. "Push it to the limit," sang Sony, who couldn't help noticing people were [[KillerApp buying their Playstation machine just to play Square's games]].\\\
So now Square was sitting in its penthouse suite, with more success and money than it knew what to do with; [[DrunkWithPower delirious with power]], ambition, and the mountains of cocaine it had lying around. But despite its ongoing success, Square somehow couldn't help feeling discontent. The new sequels to its classic games, while popular, somehow [[{{Sequelitis}} lacked that special spark that the original titles]] had. Its older fans were becoming alienated: this wasn't the Square they fell in love with. "Who needs you?" Square shot back. [[CashCowFranchise We're selling millions of games!]] We have more than enough new fans to replace you! Go play ''[[VideoGame/KartiaTheWordOfFate Kartia]]'' or ''{{VideoGame/Grandia}}'' or some shit, if you think it'll make you happy -- but it won't. Fine! Leave! You'll be back!"\\\
Meanwhile, the forces Square invoked through its own hubris -- which, in this case, would be ''[[Anime/FinalFantasyTheSpiritsWithin The Spirits Within]]'' -- were already set to destroy it."''
-->--'''Pat R.''', [[http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff09 "Diminishing Returns - Final Fantasy IX"]]

->[[Creator/StevenSeagal Seagal's]] first real misstep was a classic Hollywood story. Take a overpaid and under talented star at the very peak of his earning powers (in this case, directly after ''Under Siege''), and let him not only star in his own big-budgeted pet project, [[CanonSue but write and direct it]] as well. Readers of this site already know what kind of [[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier awful fiascoes]] can result from such situations. Swirl in the obligatory, Hollywood lefty agitprop: 'Sure, the kids will see some action and have a good time, but they'll also ''[[{{Anvilicious}} learn]]'' something'. Finally, spice it liberally with [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra the humiliation of a respected veteran movie actor]] who has more talent in his nose hair than Seagal has in his family, and you end up with the recipe for ''On Deadly Ground.''"
-->--'''''Jabootu''''' [[https://web.archive.org/web/20010622013158/http://www.jabootu.com:80/ondeadlyground.htm on]] ''Film/OnDeadlyGround''

->A Creator/WillSmith film not crashing straight in at number one, ears first, might be the thing that finally makes Hollywood sit up and say “enough.” You could put this Will-Bomb down to a number of other factors -- the taint of Scientology; the super-positive man-of-the-people chatshow appearances feeling more [[SlaveToPR PR rehearsed ]]than ever before; the continued inclusion of a son who clearly inherited his charisma genes [[DullSurprise from his mother]] -- but maybe nobody wants to see a film where the main character is called [[Film/AfterEarth Cyper Raige.]] '''CYPHER RAIGE!'''
-->--'''Stuart Millard''', [[http://franticplanet.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/the-self-destruction-of-m-night-shyamalan/ "The Self-Destruction of M. Knight Skyamalan"]]

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->Y'know what, actually? Let's pause this for a second. Timmy, [[INeedAFreakingDrink do we have any brown-brown in the house, anything?]] anything bourbon? (background chatter) Anything that'll get me drunk. Okay. Just, uh, go see what they got. I'll take Maker's, whatever's on sale. Even Hennessy at this point.
-->--"[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dxAZD7Wr_M After Earth: M. Knight Deleted Commentary]]"

->'''Jay:''' He churns out movies in his garage over the weekend now, and they all look like crap. Have you seen ''[[Film/TheAdventuresOfSharkboyAndLavagirl Sharkboy and Lavagirl]]''? That hit film?\\
'''Mike:''' No, I saw ''Lavaboy and Sharkgirl'', though. It was the [[Creator/TheAsylum Asylum]] version.\\
'''Jay:''' Pretty soon I think Creator/RobertRodriguez is gonna be ''directing'' films for The Asylum.\\
'''Mike:''' I think after so many failed films he's going to end up ''in'' an asylum.
-->--''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'', "2014 Movie Catch Up"

->You remember in ''Film/SpaceJam'' where aliens secretly stole the talent from NBA stars and suddenly those players completely sucked? I can only assume something similar happened to {{Music/Eminem}} in 2004 because I can't come up with a single better explanation for what happened to Slim. The song was called "Just Lose It", and Eminem ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin just lost it.]]''
-->--'''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows''': "Top 10 Worst Hit Songs of 2004".

->'''Burgdorf:''' My Führer, she's not a Disney star anymore!\\
'''Hitler:''' That doesn't mean she should flip on her Bitch Switch! *angrily tosses pencil* It's a bad example! She used to be a role model, she was looked up to by millions of young girls, and last night, they all died from disgust and horror! I don't even know how I'm shocked by this! [[NetworkDecay MTV has been airing manufactured crap for years now!]] I'd never think they'd stoop this low, though. Next, they'll be showing Stalin twerking his ass off! I'm still reeling from this trainwreck... I feel dirty now, soiled for having witnessed this. [[BrainBleach I can never un-see it!]]
-->--'''''[[WebVideo/HitlerRants Hitler Rants]]''''', on Music/MileyCyrus [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZRsL6ie4A at the 2013 MTV Music Video awards]]

->'''Mario:''' Creator/MikeMyers was once a very funny man.\\
'''Fafa:''' And if you watch ''Film/TheLoveGuru'', you'll actually see his career flushin' down the toilet.\\
'''Mario:''' I...I...I can't watch this.
--> ''WebVideo/GloveAndBoots'', "Nine Movies That Make Men Cry"

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->''Film/TheWarriors'' opened a lot of doors for me, which ''{{Film/Xanadu}}'' then closed.
-->--'''Michael Beck'''

->The great producer--how did this happen to him? He got so good at [[ProtectionFromEditors keeping the studio away, and getting his way with things, and taking the time he wanted to take]], I don’t think he ever got a chance to examine what we were making.
-->--'''Paul Sylbert''', production designer on ''{{Film/Ishtar}}'', on Creator/WarrenBeatty

->Your days as a game developer are absolutely over.
-->-- Email found in Creator/JohnRomero's inbox during ''{{VideoGame/Daikatana}}''[='s=] development

-> '''Creator/QuentinTarantino:''' There's quite a few directors where you can't believe the work that they did in the '70s is the work that they're doing now. You know, you can't believe it's the same man.
--> '''Charlie Rose:''' And what do you think happened?
--> '''Tarantino:''' Well, oddly enough, I actually kind of see what happens, all right. It usually has to do with ''one film''. ...I mean, like, you see them growing, or building, or whatever, and...they do one film, and usually it's a film that they're very personal about...that they care a lot about, and, one, not only does it not do well, it's not recognized. Okay, now maybe they did a bad job with it, or maybe they did a terrific job with it, all right, but...they get nothing for it. They get slapped in the face for it. ...And you could tell that the film had a real personal feeling to them.
--> '''Rose:''' Yeah. They really had put it out on the table.
--> '''Tarantino:''' They really put it out on the table. ...And then, from that point on...you can just see all of a sudden they started doing star vehicles.
--> '''Rose:''' Yeah.
--> '''Tarantino:''' All of a sudden they just started doing program films, and then, six, seven years down the line it's like, whatever originality, whatever special personality that they had, completely doesn't exist any more.
-->-- Charlie Rose, 1996 interview with Quentin Tarantino

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-->--'''''Jabootu''''' [[http://www.jabootu.com/ondeadlyground.htm on]] ''Film/OnDeadlyGround''

->Part of me feels bad for Natalie Portman, because even ''Star Wars'' [[FanonDiscontinuity fans refuse to acknowledge the existence]] of the ''Star Wars'' prequels (I myself like to pretend it was all just a terrible CGI dream I had once), so it’s too bad that Hollywood wouldn’t do the same and forgive her for such a crappy mess.
-->--'''[[http://dlisted.com/2014/12/22/natalie-portman-says-that-nobody-wanted-to-work-with-her-after-star-wars/ Michael K.]]''', "Creator/NataliePortman Says That Nobody Wanted To Work With Her After ''Star Wars''"

'''Mario:''' Creator/MikeMyers was once a very funny man.
'''Fafa:''' And if you watch ''Film/TheLoveGuru'', you'll actually see his career flushin' down the toilet.
'''Mario:'' I...I...I can't watch this.

-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''Daikatana''

->'''Jay:''' He churns out movies in his garage over the weekend now, and they all look like crap. Have you seen ''[[TheAdventuresOfSharkboyAndLavagirl Sharkboy and Lavagirl]]''? That hit film?\\

-> '''QuentinTarantino:''' There's quite a few directors where you can't believe the work that they did in the '70s is the work that they're doing now. You know, you can't believe it's the same man.

->[[StevenSeagal Seagal's]] first real misstep was a classic Hollywood story. Take a overpaid and under talented star at the very peak of his earning powers (in this case, directly after ''Under Siege''), and let him not only star in his own big-budgeted pet project, [[CanonSue but write and direct it]] as well. Readers of this site already know what kind of [[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier awful fiascoes]] can result from such situations. Swirl in the obligatory, Hollywood lefty agitprop: 'Sure, the kids will see some action and have a good time, but they'll also ''[[{{Anvilicious}} learn]]'' something'. Finally, spice it liberally with [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra the humiliation of a respected veteran movie actor]] who has more talent in his nose hair than Seagal has in his family, and you end up with the recipe for ''On Deadly Ground.''"

->[[StevenSeagal Seagal's]] first real misstep was a classic Hollywood story. Take a overpaid and under talented star at the very peak of his earning powers (in this case, directly after ''Under Siege''), and let him not only star in his own big-budgeted pet project, [[CanonSue but write and direct it]] as well. Readers of this site already know what kind of awful fiascoes can result from such situations. Swirl in the obligatory, Hollywood lefty agitprop: 'Sure, the kids will see some action and have a good time, but they'll also ''[[{{Anvilicious}} learn]]'' something'. Finally, spice it liberally with [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra the humiliation of a respected veteran movie actor]] who has more talent in his nose hair than Seagal has in his family, and you end up with the recipe for ''On Deadly Ground.''"