History Quotes / ContinuitySnarl

-->-- '''''[[FloatingHands X-Men: Death Becomes Them]]''''' (note that this is an entirely accurate description of the canon at the time after all the retcons.)

-->-- '''''X-Men: Death Becomes Them''''' (note that this is an entirely accurate description of the canon at the time after all the retcons.)

-->--[[http://www.faqs.org/faqs/comics/xbooks/main-faq/part4/section-2.html The rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks FAQ]], on the Phoenix storyline in the ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' comics.

Like all non-existant Thanagarians, Hawkman has human legs! Which are reincarnated legs! Alien legs! Egyptian legs! Thanagarian legs! Bird legs! God legs! [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Bird-God legs!]] This is because he's... a God! An Earthman! A Thanagarian! An American! An Egyptian! A common human! A reincarnated prince! A hawk! [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment A God! A God-Hawk! A Hawk-God! A God-like Hawk God]] of Other, Less Godly Hawks!

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->'''Chris''': Zod gets Clark alone so that he can talk to him in his hilarious [[Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy Michael Caine-in-Batman-Begins]] accent, and I finally get to know what it’s like when people overhear me and my friends talking about comics, because this is just [[{{Narm}} hilarious nonsense]]. There’s some stuff in there about how Zod has been possessed by '[[MyFutureSelfAndMe the original Zod,]]' so now he’s '''''DOUBLE-ZOD''''', with twice the hate for Clark!\\

->Of there’s one thing we should all know about the comics industry at this point, it’s that '''it never lets anything go away forever'''. And that’s not a new trend, either. The historic 'Flash of Two Worlds' story in 1961′s Flash #123 finally reintroduced the [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Flash]] to the regular DC Universe, establishing that he was a super-hero on an {{alternate dimension}}.\\\
This of course led to the eventual return of the entire [[ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica Justice Society]] in ''Justice League of America'' #21, and the idea that the super-heroes being published monthly existed on just one of several Earths in an entire {{multiverse}} of infinite possibilities... ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis: Legion of Three Worlds'' ''[revealed]'' that three completely different [[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} Legions]] — four if you count the one from [[WesternAnimation/LegionofSuperHeroes their eponymous cartoon]] — were all operating in different branches of the time stream at the same time, and all of them could interact with the regular DCU timeline, although the primary one featured in the comics would be the one old people liked. Because that was ''way'' simpler than parallel worlds, right?

->Ah, yes, ''Doctor Who''. Because that’s the other thing "Immortal Sins" does -- play up ''Torchwood''[='=]s heritage as a product of ''Doctor Who'', with explicit acknowledgment of both that show and ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures''. This is, to say the least, weird. Not least because attempting to fit ''Miracle Day'' into any sort of coherent shared universe with ''Doctor Who'' is, shall we say, a challenge... It's also worth pointing out, because [[BotheringByTheBook someone is going to]], the massive continuity screwup that happens in the course of all this intertextuality, which is to have Jack know about the "fixed point in time" stuff roughly eighty years before he jumps on the exterior of the TARDIS in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E11Utopia "Utopia"]] and actually learns about it. Sure, you can work around that if you really want to, but the reality is that it's a gaffe, and one that speaks volumes about the lack of any actual oversight going on here, since it's the sort of thing that Creator/RussellTDavies would typically catch in his sleep. (He might decide to ignore it, certainly, but he'd catch it, and it's tough to see why he'd ignore it, since [[VoodooShark it's extraneous to the scene.]])

->The TV show follows Duncan [=MacLeod=], played by Adrian Paul... Duncan isn't the same guy as Connor, it's just a rather incredible coincidence [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute that two Scottish warriors of the same clan with the exact same background]] became immortal after a battle within a few decades of each other. or the most part, the TV show seems to pretend that the movies just aren't there, because there are a LOT more immortals running around in the show, and it's almost assured that Duncan [[OncePerEpisode lops the head off one of them an episode]]. The movies only feature a bare handful of immortals, so as you can imagine, the stories of Duncan and Connor aren't really supposed to mesh.\\\
In ''Endgame'', they mesh with all the subtlety and grace of a train derailing (a plot train, as it were). By this point, the plot holes are just incredible, and you can't even call the repair job 'retconning' because now [[HandWave they don't even bother explaining anything]]. Connor never won the Prize, there have always been a bajillion immortals, and worse, [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption there's a continuously refreshing supply of them!]]

This of course led to the eventual return of the entire [[JusticeSocietyOfAmerica Justice Society]] in ''Justice League of America'' #21, and the idea that the super-heroes being published monthly existed on just one of several Earths in an entire {{multiverse}} of infinite possibilities... ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis: Legion of Three Worlds'' ''[revealed]'' that three completely different [[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} Legions]] — four if you count the one from [[WesternAnimation/LegionofSuperHeroes their eponymous cartoon]] — were all operating in different branches of the time stream at the same time, and all of them could interact with the regular DCU timeline, although the primary one featured in the comics would be the one old people liked. Because that was ''way'' simpler than parallel worlds, right?

This of course led to the eventual return of the entire [[JusticeSocietyOfAmerica Justice Society]] in ''Justice League of America'' #21, and the idea that the super-heroes being published monthly existed on just one of several Earths in an entire {{multiverse}} of infinite possibilities... ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis: Legion of Three Worlds'' ''[revealed]'' that three completely different [[LegionOfSuperheroes Legions]] — four if you count the one from [[WesternAnimation/LegionofSuperheroes their eponymous cartoon]] — were all operating in different branches of the time stream at the same time, and all of them could interact with the regular DCU timeline, although the primary one featured in the comics would be the one old people liked. Because that was ''way'' simpler than parallel worlds, right?

This of course led to the eventual return of the entire [[JusticeSocietyOfAmerica Justice Society]] in ''Justice League of America'' #21, and the idea that the super-heroes being published monthly existed on just one of several Earths in an entire {{multiverse}} of infinite possibilities... ''FinalCrisis: Legion of Three Worlds'' ''[revealed]'' that three completely different [[LegionOfSuperheroes Legions]] — four if you count the one from [[WesternAnimation/LegionofSuperheroes their eponymous cartoon]] — were all operating in different branches of the time stream at the same time, and all of them could interact with the regular DCU timeline, although the primary one featured in the comics would be the one old people liked. Because that was ''way'' simpler than parallel worlds, right?

->'''Chris''': Zod gets Clark alone so that he can talk to him in his hilarious [[TheDarkKnightTrilogy Michael Caine-in-Batman-Begins]] accent, and I finally get to know what it’s like when people overhear me and my friends talking about comics, because this is just [[{{Narm}} hilarious nonsense]]. There’s some stuff in there about how Zod has been possessed by '[[MyFutureSelfAndMe the original Zod,]]' so now he’s '''''DOUBLE-ZOD''''', with twice the hate for Clark!\\

->The TV show follows Duncan [=MacLeod=], played by Adrian Paul...Duncan isn't the same guy as Connor, it's just a rather incredible coincidence [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute that two Scottish warriors of the same clan with the exact same background]] became immortal after a battle within a few decades of each other. or the most part, the TV show seems to pretend that the movies just aren't there, because there are a LOT more immortals running around in the show, and it's almost assured that Duncan [[OncePerEpisode lops the head off one of them an episode]]. The movies only feature a bare handful of immortals, so as you can imagine, the stories of Duncan and Connor aren't really supposed to mesh.\\\

This of course led to the eventual return of the entire [[JusticeSocietyOfAmerica Justice Society]] in ''Justice League of America'' #21, and the idea that the super-heroes being published monthly existed on just one of several Earths in an entire {{multiverse}} of infinite possibilities...''FinalCrisis: Legion of Three Worlds'' ''[revealed]'' that three completely different [[LegionOfSuperheroes Legions]] — four if you count the one from [[WesternAnimation/LegionofSuperheroes their eponymous cartoon]] — were all operating in different branches of the time stream at the same time, and all of them could interact with the regular DCU timeline, although the primary one featured in the comics would be the one old people liked. Because that was ''way'' simpler than parallel worlds, right?

->At this point, since we now have all of the possible references contradicting themselves, this neutral researcher says [[SophisticatedAsHell "to hell with it"]] and closes the subject."''

'''Beast''': ''That defies all logic!

-->--'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe2Agl3bJAc John Connor]]''', ''{{Terminator}} Genisys'' Trailer -- Paradox Edition"

->Ah, yes, ''Doctor Who''. Because that’s the other thing 'Immortal Sins' does -- play up ''Torchwood''[=’=]s heritage as a product of ''Doctor Who'', with explicit acknowledgment of both that show and ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures''. This is, to say the least, weird. Not least because attempting to fit ''Miracle Day'' into any sort of coherent shared universe with ''Doctor Who'' is, shall we say, a challenge... It’s also worth pointing out, because [[BotheringByTheBook someone is going to]], the massive continuity screwup that happens in the course of all this intertextuality, which is to have Jack know about the 'fixed point in time' stuff roughly eighty years before he jumps on the exterior of the TARDIS in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS3E11Utopia}} Utopia]] and actually learns about it. Sure, you can work around that if you really want to, but the reality is that it’s a gaffe, and one that speaks volumes about the lack of any actual oversight going on here, since it’s the sort of thing that RussellTDavies would typically catch in his sleep. (He might decide to ignore it, certainly, but he’d catch it, and it’s tough to see why he’d ignore it, since [[VoodooShark it’s extraneous to the scene.]])

->Of there’s one thing we should all know about the comics industry at this point, it’s that '''it never lets anything go away forever'''. And that’s not a new trend, either. The historic 'Flash of Two Worlds' story in 1961′s Flash #123 finally reintroduced the [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Flash]] to the regular DC Universe, establishing that he was a super-hero on an {{alternate dimension}}.\\\

->This whole mess doesn't remotely fit... MOVING ON!"''
-->-- '''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick''', on ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeastTheEnchantedChristmas''

-->--'''Dr. Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/ on]] ''MiracleDay'' ("Immortal Sins")

->'''Wolverine''': ''No, no, don't change the subject here. Why aren't you dead?''
->'''Magneto''': ''Oh, that. Well, you see, that wasn't me.''
->'''Wolverine''': ''Oh really now?''
->'''Magneto''': ''It was actually Xorn's twin brother, possessed by the sentient mold Sublime, pretending to be me, pretending to be Xorn.''
->'''Beast''': ''That defies all logic!''

->''"At this point, since we now have all of the possible references contradicting themselves, this neutral researcher says [[SophisticatedAsHell "to hell with it"]] and closes the subject."''

->''"[-HA-]! Take that [[FanBoy obsessive fanbase]]!"''

->''"ComicBook/{{Hawkman}} can [[SpeaksFluentAnimal talk to birds]]. He also can't talk to birds. Sometimes, [[TheUnintelligible he can't even speak normally at all]]! Even if he could talk normally, or to birds, there are no birds on Thanagar, because it does not exist. Hawkman was sent here to study Earthly police methods, because Thanagar's own methods suck! That's OK though, because Thanagar still does not exist! Yet it is populated by peaceful barbarians! Who are stupid, and also warlike!\\\
Like all non-existant Thanagarians, Hawkman has human legs! Which are reincarnated legs! Alien legs! Egyptian legs! Thanagarian legs! Bird legs! God legs! [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Bird-God legs!]] This is because he's... a God! An Earthman! A Thanagarian! An American! An Egyptian! A common human! A reincarnated prince! A hawk! [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment A God! A God-Hawk! A Hawk-God! A God-like Hawk God]] of Other, Less Godly Hawks!"''

->''"Of there’s one thing we should all know about the comics industry at this point, it’s that '''it never lets anything go away forever'''. And that’s not a new trend, either. The historic 'Flash of Two Worlds' story in 1961′s Flash #123 finally reintroduced the [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Flash]] to the regular DC Universe, establishing that he was a super-hero on an {{alternate dimension}}.\\\
This of course led to the eventual return of the entire [[JusticeSocietyOfAmerica Justice Society]] in ''Justice League of America'' #21, and the idea that the super-heroes being published monthly existed on just one of several Earths in an entire {{multiverse}} of infinite possibilities...''FinalCrisis: Legion of Three Worlds'' ''[revealed]'' that three completely different [[LegionOfSuperheroes Legions]] — four if you count the one from [[WesternAnimation/LegionofSuperheroes their eponymous cartoon]] — were all operating in different branches of the time stream at the same time, and all of them could interact with the regular DCU timeline, although the primary one featured in the comics would be the one old people liked. Because that was ''way'' simpler than parallel worlds, right?"''

->''"This whole mess doesn't remotely fit... MOVING ON!"''
-->-- '''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick''', on ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeastTheEnchantedChristmas''

->''"Ah, yes, ''Doctor Who''. Because that’s the other thing 'Immortal Sins' does -- play up ''Torchwood''[=’=]s heritage as a product of ''Doctor Who'', with explicit acknowledgment of both that show and ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures''. This is, to say the least, weird. Not least because attempting to fit ''Miracle Day'' into any sort of coherent shared universe with ''Doctor Who'' is, shall we say, a challenge... It’s also worth pointing out, because [[BotheringByTheBook someone is going to]], the massive continuity screwup that happens in the course of all this intertextuality, which is to have Jack know about the 'fixed point in time' stuff roughly eighty years before he jumps on the exterior of the TARDIS in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS3E11Utopia}} Utopia]] and actually learns about it. Sure, you can work around that if you really want to, but the reality is that it’s a gaffe, and one that speaks volumes about the lack of any actual oversight going on here, since it’s the sort of thing that RussellTDavies would typically catch in his sleep. (He might decide to ignore it, certainly, but he’d catch it, and it’s tough to see why he’d ignore it, since [[VoodooShark it’s extraneous to the scene.]])"''
-->--'''Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/ on]] ''MiracleDay'' ("Immortal Sins")

->''"The TV show follows Duncan [=MacLeod=], played by Adrian Paul...Duncan isn't the same guy as Connor, it's just a rather incredible coincidence [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute that two Scottish warriors of the same clan with the exact same background]] became immortal after a battle within a few decades of each other. or the most part, the TV show seems to pretend that the movies just aren't there, because there are a LOT more immortals running around in the show, and it's almost assured that Duncan [[OncePerEpisode lops the head off one of them an episode]]. The movies only feature a bare handful of immortals, so as you can imagine, the stories of Duncan and Connor aren't really supposed to mesh.\\\
In ''Endgame'', they mesh with all the subtlety and grace of a train derailing (a plot train, as it were). By this point, the plot holes are just incredible, and you can't even call the repair job 'retconning' because now [[HandWave they don't even bother explaining anything]]. Connor never won the Prize, there have always been a bajillion immortals, and worse, [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption there's a continuously refreshing supply of them!]]"''

->This game is another prequel, taking place some time even before ''[[VideoGame/MortalKombatMythologiesSubZero Mythologies]]''. However, Jax has his metal arms from ''VideoGame/MortalKombat3'' because... er, let's just say that [[AWizardDidIt Quan Chi did it]]. Somewhere at a Special Forces prison, Kano shows up and breaks out members of his Black Dragon gang. They all hole up in an abandoned warehouse, and when the military is sent in to try and recapture them, they all get blown up. Kano, as it turns out, freed the Black Dragon members as distractions so he could steal a magical artifact called the Eye of Chitian. After dealing with Kano's thugs, Jax follows Kano to Outworld, beats him up and uses the eye to create a portal back to Earthrealm. That's honestly pretty much all there is to the plot, except for the fact that Jax has been made into some kind of Blaxploitation hero, spouting out cringeworthy bad lines like "You want some fries with that whoopass?" ... When your experience reaches a certain threshold, Jax learns a new combo, which tend to have names like 'Git Some Sucka' or 'Takin Out The Trash.'
-->--'''''Website/HardcoreGaming101''''' [[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/mortalkombat/mortalkombat4.htm on]] ''VideoGame/MortalKombatSpecialForces''

->''"Thanagar's champion, ComicBook/{{Hawkman}} can [[SpeaksFluentAnimal talk to birds]]. He also can't talk to birds. Sometimes, [[TheUnintelligible he can't even speak normally at all]]! Even if he could talk normally, or to birds, there are no birds on Thanagar, because it does not exist. Hawkman was sent here to study Earthly police methods, because Thanagar's own methods suck! That's OK though, because Thanagar still does not exist! Yet it is populated by peaceful barbarians! Who are stupid, and also warlike!\\\
Like all non-existant Thanagarians, Hawkman has human legs! Which are reincarnated legs! Alien legs! Egyptian legs! Thanagarian legs! Bird legs! God legs! [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Bird-God legs!]] This is because he's... a God! An Earthman! A Thanagarian! An American! An Egyptian! A common human! A reincarnated prince! A hawk! [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment A God!]] [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs A God-Hawk! A Hawk-God!]] [[BuffySpeak A God-like Hawk God of Other, Less Godly Hawks!]]"''

->''"Of there’s one thing we should all know about the comics industry at this point, it’s that '''it never lets anything go away forever'''. And that’s not a new trend, either. The historic 'Flash of Two Worlds' story in 1961′s Flash #123 finally reintroduced the [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Flash]] to the regular DC Universe, establishing that he was a super-hero on an {{alternate dimension}}.\\\
This of course led to the eventual return of the entire [[JusticeSocietyOfAmerica Justice Society]] in ''Justice League of America'' #21, and the idea that the super-heroes being published monthly existed on just one of several Earths in an entire {{multiverse}} of infinite possibilities...''FinalCrisis: Legion of Three Worlds'' ''[revealed]'' that three completely different [[LegionOfSuperheroes Legions]] — four if you count the one from [[WesternAnimation/LegionofSuperheroes their eponymous cartoon]] — were all operating in different branches of the time stream at the same time, and all of them could interact with the regular DCU timeline, although the primary one featured in the comics would be the one old people liked. Because that was ''way'' simpler than parallel worlds, right?"''
-->-- '''Chris Sims''', [[http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/06/08/dc-comics-reboot-history/ "Time and Time Again: The Complete History of DC's Retcons and Reboots"]]

->'''Chris''': Zod gets Clark alone so that he can talk to him in his hilarious [[TheDarkKnightTrilogy Michael Caine-in-Batman-Begins]] accent, and I finally get to know what it’s like when people overhear me and my friends talking about comics, because this is just {{Narm}} hilarious nonsense]]. There’s some stuff in there about how Zod has been possessed by '[[MyFutureSelfAndMe the original Zod,]]' so now he’s '''''DOUBLE-ZOD''''', with twice the hate for Clark!\\

->'''Chris''': Zod gets Clark alone so that he can talk to him in his hilarious [[TheDarkKnightTrilogy Michael Caine-in-Batman-Begins]] accent, and I finally get to know what it’s like when people overhear me and my friends talking about comics, because this is just hilarious nonsense. There’s some stuff in there about how Zod has been possessed by '[[MyFutureSelfAndMe the original Zod,]]' so now he’s '''''DOUBLE-ZOD''''', with twice the hate for Clark!\\

-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-10-19-dominion/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("Dominion")

This of course led to the eventual return of the entire [[JusticeSocietyOfAmerica Justice Society]] in ''Justice League of America'' #21, and the idea that the super-heroes being published monthly existed on just one of several Earths in an entire {{multiverse}} of infinite possibilities... And then there was the Justice Society, which unlike the rest of the universe was tied explicitly to a fixed point in time (World War II) which required an explanation as to just why they were still running around doing super-heroics forty years later, especially when they’d been supplanted by younger characters...''FinalCrisis: Legion of Three Worlds'' ''[revealed]'' that three completely different [[LegionOfSuperheroes Legions]] — four if you count the one from [[WesternAnimation/LegionofSuperheroes their eponymous cartoon]] — were all operating in different branches of the time stream at the same time, and all of them could interact with the regular DCU timeline, although the primary one featured in the comics would be the one old people liked. Because that was ''way'' simpler than parallel worlds, right?"''

->''"So rather than rebooting the [[ComicBook/LegionOfSuperheroes Legion]] and derailing its momentum, the solution was to base the team on a pocket universe that was created by the Time Trapper that ''did'' have a ComicBook/{{Superboy}}, ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}, {{Krypto|TheSuperdog}}, and so on. In essence, there was a small piece of the Silver Age that made it through [[ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Crisis]], but only in regards to ''one specific group''.\\\
[==]Surely '''that''' wouldn't create any problems."''
-->-- [[http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/06/08/dc-comics-reboot-history/ "Time and Time Again: The Complete History of DC's Retcons and Reboots"]]