History Quotes / BlueandOrangeMorality

->[[AIIsACrapshoot The WAU]] is [[AssimilationPlot reaching out to every machine, every life form, to manipulate, to control]]. It’s trying to help, [[WellIntentionedExtremist save its creators]] from all this]], just like the protocol demands. But really, what is good enough? Where is the line drawn for what is human and what is not? Would [[ArtificialZombie walking corpses]] do? Would a group of machines [[BrainUploading thinking they’re human]] be acceptable? We can’t trust a machine to know, to understand what it means to ''be.''

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->In an angel’s philosophy, it was once said, two times two equals thirteen. This is not slander. Angels are not crazy, could not be further from madness. They have, insofar as any theologian understands, [[TheUnfettered absolute purity of purpose]]. A stiletto-sharp fidelity to the task of keeping Heaven clean.\\\
To messy-minded humans… so clear & precise a drive makes no sense at all. It is considerably less comprehensible than the ravings of those we call insane.\\\

->The Vex have no hope; no imagination, no drive, no fear. All they have is the pattern. Everything must fit. If it can be made to fit, good! If not... [[ObliviouslyEvil it gets cut away.]]

--> -- ''Literature/AlsoSprachZarathustra''

->'''Mephisto:''' The eyes of a human are dull after all. What's so good about [[{{Bishounen}} that form]]? Look closely! [[SuperDeformed This small and short form!]] Look how cool it is! This is a devil's aesthetics!
->'''Si-Un:''' A devil's aesthetics... I don't get it.
->'''Su-In:''' Are all devils like that?
->'''Mephisto:''' See, look at [[AloofDarkHairedGirl Su-In]]. Her legs are long and ugly.

->'''Madoka:''' Why would Kyubey do something so cruel?\\

->"It is different, yeah. It's a different morality, get used to it, or go home."
-->--'''The Ninth Doctor''', ''Series/DoctorWho''

->''"It is interesting that every country seems to have its own, most often irrational, opinion which type of behavior is a big no-no and which isn’t. In Germany prostitution is completely legal, but proving yourself to be an idiot by saying that the holocaust didn’t happen can land you in prison."''
-->--''Webcomic/SandraAndWoo'', [[http://www.sandraandwoo.com/2010/06/10/0172-not-a-role-model/ summing up]] this trope in two sentences.

->If you have struck any kind of bargain with Griphook, and most particularly if that bargain involves treasure, you must be exceptionally careful. Goblin notions of ownership, payment, and repayment are not the same as human ones.
-->-- '''Bill Weasley,''' ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows''

--> -- '''Creator/FriedrichNietzsche''', ''Thus Spoke Zarathustra''

->The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else.
-->-- '''Creator/EliezerYudkowsky''', "[[http://yudkowsky.net/singularity/ai-risk Artificial Intelligence as a Positive and Negative Factor in Global Risk]]"

->If he were human, you would have described him as vain. But you can't apply human values to a cat.
-->-- ''Literature/RedDwarf: Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers'', describing the [[CatsAreMean Cat's]] strangely selfish behavior.

->''His real error had been the naive belief that '' his ''definition of pleasure significantly overlapped with that of the Cenobites. As it was, they had brought incalculable suffering. They had [[MindRape overdosed him on sensuality until his mind teetered on madness]], then they'd initiated him into experiences that his nerves still convulsed to recall. They had called it pleasure, and perhaps they meant it. Perhaps not. It was impossible to know with these minds; they were so hopelessly, flawlessly ambiguous.''
-->-- ''Literature/TheHellboundHeart''

->''On the front of the Octavo had been a representation of [[EldritchAbomination Bel-Shamharoth]]. He was not Evil, for even Evil has a certain vitality -- [[AngelsDevilsAndSquid Bel-Shamharoth was the flip side of the coin of which Good and Evil are but one side.]]''

->Good and evil are human constructs, [[spoiler:Reginald]]. I was merely attempting to be courteous.
-->-- '''Delta''', ''Machinima/RedVsBlue''

->The stuff they do comes so far out of left-field, it feels like they're [=NPCs=] in some badly scripted RPG. And it doesn't help that their stats are broken as all hell.
-->-- '''Kyon''', ''[[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya The Astonishment of Haruhi Suzumiya]]''

->'''Mephisto:''' The eyes of a human are dull after all. What's so good about [[{{Bishounen}} that form]]? Look closely! [[SuperDeformed This small and short form!]] Look how cool it is! This is a devil's aesthetics!
->'''Si-Un:''' A devil's aesthetics... I don't get it.
->'''Su-In:''' Are all devils like that?
->'''Mephisto:''' See, look at [[AloofDarkHairedGirl Su-In]]. Her legs are long and ugly.
-->--''Manhwa/SoulCartel''

-> Interested persons may want to look into the work of psychologist Jonathan Haidt on "Moral Foundations theory," summarized in his book The Righteous Mind. So far, he's found six moral attitudes that influence people's judgments -- often unconsciously -- and they all arise pretty simply from selection pressures within groups and between groups. (There may be additional Moral Foundations. Research continues.) Many political and idiological conflicts arise not because one group is Good and another is Evil, but because people assign different weights to particular moral foundations -- often to such an extent that they literally cannot comprehend what the other side is saying.
-> Any society that lasts very long will have a powerful and pervasive moral underpinning. It might not be one you understand, or would approve of if you did, but it's there.
-->-- '''Dean Shomshak''', [[http://forums.white-wolf.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=83431 discussing]] ''{{TabletopGame/Exalted}}''

-> '''Madoka:''' Why would [[spoiler:Kyubey]] do something so cruel?\\
'''Homura:''' He doesn't think it's cruel. That being has no understanding of human values.
-->-- ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''

->''"Eat it, kill it, make friends with it or take a bath in it. Those are the points on your moral compass."''
-->--'''Kevyn''', ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'', talking to Sgt. Schlock

->''"Good and evil has nothing to do with God. I collect church collapses, did you see the recent one in Sicily? The façade fell on sixty-five grandmothers attending a special mass. Was that evil? Was that God? If he's up there, he just loves it. Typhoid and swans, it all comes from the same place."''

->''In an angel’s philosophy, it was once said, two times two equals thirteen. This is not slander. Angels are not crazy, could not be further from madness. They have, insofar as any theologian understands, [[TheUnfettered absolute purity of purpose]]. A stiletto-sharp fidelity to the task of keeping Heaven clean.''

->''To messy-minded humans… so clear & precise a drive makes no sense at all. It is considerably less comprehensible than the ravings of those we call insane.''

->''Angels, unremittingly & absolutely sane, cannot but seem to poor humanity relentlessly & madly murderous.''
-->-- '''''Literature/{{Railsea}}'''''

->'''Finch:''' Even if I had succeeded in creating a [[BenevolentAI benevolent Machine]], as if any such thing could exist, never forget that even a so-called friendly artificial super-intelligence would be every bit as dangerous as an unfriendly one.
->'''Shaw:''' Your Machine seems pretty warm and fuzzy to me.
->'''Finch:''' Have you forgotten that it asked us to kill a congressman?
->'''Shaw:''' But that was to stop [[TheComputerIsYourFriend Samaritan]] from going online.
->'''Finch:''' So where does it end, Ms. Shaw? A congressman here, a president there. What if, one day, a friendly AI decides to end world hunger by killing enough people off of the planet that there would never again be a shortage of food? It would have fulfilled its goal, but it doesn't exactly sound like it has our best interests at heart.
->'''Root:''' Your Machine would never do that.
->'''Finch:''' You don't know that, Ms. Groves. To say that a machine is benevolent doesn't make it so. It just makes you blind to the reality.
->'''Shaw:''' Which is?
->'''Finch:''' That our moral system will never be mirrored by theirs because of the very simple reason that they are not human.

-->--''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade''

->"Well, [Rick]'s not a villain, but... he shouldn't be your hero, Summer. He's more like a demon or a super fucked-up god."
-->--'''Morty''', ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty''

->"I'm not mean, I'm a thousand years old, and I just lost track of my moral code."
-->--'''Marceline''', ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime''

->"Can you, mortal, presume to judge the actions and motives of a god?"
-->--'''[[PhysicalGod Vivec]]''', ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind''

->"That's why the [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame Dwemer]] are the weirdest race in Tamriel and, frankly, also the scariest. They look(ed) like us, they sometimes act(ed) like us, but when you really put them under the magnifying glass you see nothing but vessels that house an intelligence and value system that is by all accounts Beyond Human Comprehension."
-->--'''[[WordOfSaintPaul Michael Kirkbride]]''' on [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame the Dwemer]], ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''

-->--''[[NewWorldOfDarkness Midnight Roads]]''

->I can't imagine what it would have been like in their command centre when [[NukeEm the missiles]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard turned back on themselves]]. This was, in fact, the hard swallow for the rest of the world: the understanding that a superhuman, by definition, does not think like us and certainly does not act like us.
-->--'''Reddin,''' ''ComicBook/{{Supergod}}''

-->-- '''EliezerYudkowsky''', "[[http://yudkowsky.net/singularity/ai-risk Artificial Intelligence as a Positive and Negative Factor in Global Risk]]"

->'''Morty:''' Well, [Rick]'s not a villain, but... he shouldn't be your hero, Summer. He's more like a demon or a super fucked-up god.
-->--''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty''

-->-- '''TheMysteriousStranger,''' ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfMarkTwain''

-->-- ''ManAfterManAnAnthropologyOfTheFuture''