History Quotes / BlueAndOrangeMorality

-->-- "''Fanfic/{{Spellbound}}''

-->-- ''Fanfic/ProsAndConsOrNeverTryToConAPro'', [[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/179546/1/pros-and-cons-or-never-try-to-con-a-pro/on-the-importance-of-a-second-opinion here]]

'''Suzaku:''' This right here? This situation? This is the "DamselinDistress" trope, and I am ''not'' about to contribute to it.\\

-->-- "[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/14998685?view_full_work=true Spellbound]]", a ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' fic

-->-- ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/179546/1/pros-and-cons-or-never-try-to-con-a-pro/on-the-importance-of-a-second-opinion Pros and Cons, Or Never Try To Con a Pro]]''

-->-- ''Quetzacthulhu'', by Set Sytes

->''It is interesting that every country seems to have its own, most often irrational, opinion which type of behavior is a big no-no and which isn't. In Germany prostitution is completely legal, but proving yourself to be an idiot by saying that UsefulNotes/{{the holocaust}} [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holocaust_denial didn't happen]] can land you in prison.''

--> '''Applejack''', ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''

To messy-minded humans... so clear and precise a drive makes no sense at all. It is considerably less comprehensible than the ravings of those we call insane.\\
Angels, unremittingly and absolutely sane, cannot but seem to poor humanity relentlessly and madly murderous.

->''Heed me, child. Three storms will soon sweep over Uruk. Empathize not with the hateful one. Celebrate not with the joyous one. And extol not the pained one. Remember always. 'Tis a fool's task to speak of man's ways to a god.''

-->-- '''[[Characters/MarvelComicsGalactus Galactus]]''', ''ComicBook/TheUnbeatableSquirrelGirl''

->''For one of dragon's blood to not take up weapons, to not prepare night and day to slaughter any enemies that would come against them—it is unthinkable. It is—one who does such a thing, who believes the world will not be dangerous, will not strive to kill him… That is what we call insane.''

-->--''Fanfic/HellsisterTrilogy''

->''Oh, relax. I'm not evil; I wash my hands just like everybody else. We Luthors have been out of the evil game for decades. Sure, Aunt Nasty took a shot at it, but that was less her wanting to take over the world and more her having a midlife crisis. Then again, why shouldn't a person be allowed to build a Death Ray when they turn forty?''

->''You don't get to just kidnap people because you want them to work through their baggage!''

->''I can do no wrong, [[ObliviouslyEvil for I do not know what it is]].''
-->-- '''Literature/TheMysteriousStranger,''' ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfMarkTwain''

->''If you have struck any kind of bargain with Griphook, and most particularly if that bargain involves treasure, you must be exceptionally careful. Goblin notions of ownership, payment, and repayment are not the same as human ones.''
-->-- '''Bill Weasley,''' ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows''

->''The stuff they do comes so far out of left-field, it feels like they're [=NPCs=] in some badly-scripted RPG. And it doesn't help that their stats are broken as all hell.''

->''"They’re so different from us they’re beyond simple labels like Good and Evil. Those are human beliefs, human concepts. They’re bigger than that, beyond that, monstrous beyond anything we can imagine because our concept of evil isn’t big enough to encompass the things they do. We call them Outsiders because they’re outside anything we can understand or accept: outside morality, or sanity, maybe even Life or Death."''

->In an angel’s philosophy, it was once said, two times two equals thirteen. This is not slander. Angels are not crazy, could not be further from madness. They have, insofar as any theologian understands, [[TheUnfettered absolute purity of purpose]]. A stiletto-sharp fidelity to the task of keeping Heaven clean.\\
To messy-minded humans… so clear & precise a drive makes no sense at all. It is considerably less comprehensible than the ravings of those we call insane.\\
Angels, unremittingly & absolutely sane, cannot but seem to poor humanity relentlessly & madly murderous.

-->--''Quetzacthulhu'', by Set Sytes

->Old stories told how [[AnimalisticAbomination Weavers]] would kill each other over aesthetic disagreements, such as whether it was prettier to destroy an army of a thousand men or to leave it be, or whether a particular dandelion should or should not be plucked. For a Weaver, to think was to think aesthetically. To act – to [[RealityWarper Weave]] – was to bring about more pleasing patterns. They did not eat physical food: they seemed to subsist on the appreciation of beauty — a beauty unrecognized by humans or other denizens of the mudane plane.
->[[MayorPain Rudgutter]] was praying fervently that the Weaver did not decide that slaughtering Rescue would make a pretty pattern in the aether.
-->--''Literature/PerdidoStreetStation''

->''It is different, yeah. It's a different morality, get used to it, or go home.''

->'''The Eleventh Doctor:''' According to legend, you have a dumping ground. A planet where you lock up all the Daleks that go wrong. The battle-scarred, the insane, the ones even you can't control. It's never made any sense to me.
->'''Dalek Prime Minister:''' Why not?
->'''The Eleventh Doctor:''' Because you'd just kill them.
->'''Dalek Prime Minister:''' It is offensive, to us, to extinguish such divine hatred...does it surprise you to know [[ScaryDogmaticAliens the Daleks]] have a concept of beauty?
->'''The Eleventh Doctor:''' [[ArchEnemy I thought you'd run out of ways to make me sick.]] ''But hello again.'' You think ''hatred'' is ''beautiful?''
-->-- ''Series/DoctorWho'', "Asylum of the Daleks"

->'''Spock:''' In my view, a splendid example of reciprocity.
->'''[=McCoy=]:''' It would take a computerised Vulcan mind such as yours to make that kind of a statement.
->'''Spock:''' Doctor, you insist on applying human standards to non-human cultures. I remind you that humans are only a tiny minority in this galaxy.
->'''[=McCoy=]:''' There are certain absolutes, Mister Spock, and one of them is the right of humanoids to a free and unchained environment, the right to have conditions which permit growth.
->'''Spock:''' Another is their right to choose a system which seems to work for them.
-->-- ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', "The Apple"

->''Good and evil has nothing to do with God. I collect church collapses, did you see the recent one in Sicily? The façade fell on sixty-five grandmothers attending a special mass. Was that evil? Was that God? If he's up there, he just loves it. Typhoid and swans, it all comes from the same place.''

-->-- ''Series/PersonOfInterest'', "The Cold War"

->'''Regina Mills:''' Careful Emma, you’re starting to sound like...\\
'''Emma Swan:''' What, a villain? This is the real world Regina; there are no heroes and villains, just real people with real problems.

->'''Mephisto:''' The eyes of a human are dull after all. What's so good about [[{{Bishounen}} that form]]? Look closely! [[SuperDeformed This small and short form!]] Look how cool it is! This is a devil's aesthetics!\\

'''Mephisto:''' See, look at [[AloofDarkHairedGirl Su-In]]. Her legs are long and ugly.

->[[GripingAboutGremlins Gremlins]] are horrific little monsters, especially considering their motives. [[ObliviouslyEvil They don't want to hurt anyone]], but they don't care that they do - they just want everything to run smoothly. How the gremlins got the idea that integrating human organics with machines would help them run smoothly is a bit of a mystery.

->Rot and decay are part of [[GodOfEvil Nurgle]]’s nature, but so it seems are jocularity and enthusiasm. Such is the paradox of Nurgle.
->Indeed, it may be his boundless energy, the passion with which he delights in his work, and his irrepressible joviality that erodes the minds of so many who contemplate his existence. It seems impossible to believe that a [[FatBastard rotund]], [[ThePigPen foetid]] [[{{Plaguemaster}} purveyor of plague and ruin]] could simultaneously [[BigFun positively beam with mirth]] and [[AffablyEvil have such concern for the billions of souls upon whom he has inflicted his wracking and hideous poxes]]. To bend the mind toward the task of reconciling such foulness with such frivolity is to [[GoMadFromTheRevelation invite madness]]. Those who are able to do so without slipping into lunacy are fortunate.
-->--''TabletopGame/BlackCrusade: The Tome Of Decay''

->Perhaps the most disturbing thing about [[AlienInvasion the whole situation]] is that there is no malice behind it. [[FesteringFungus The spore creature]] isn’t intelligent enough to be evil, and [[{{Doppelganger}} the Visages]] don’t have any concept of good and evil, or of murder. They see [[ReplicantSnatching replacing people]] as the most natural thing in the world; in fact, they seem to think people would be happier if they just “joined” the duplicates. When trying to replace those who are suspicious and, therefore, resistant, many Visages take the approach of trying to convince them to accept it, and not to fight. “I’m much happier now,” they say. Never mind the fact that the original is [[KillAndReplace lying somewhere with a broken neck]] — the Visages don’t think about it that way.
-->--"Visages - Apocalypse," ''TabletopGame/TheEndOfTheWorld: Alien Invasion''

->''[[MechanicalAbomination The Vex]] have no hope; no imagination, no drive, no fear. All they have is the pattern. Everything must fit. If it can be made to fit, good! If not... [[ObliviouslyEvil it gets cut away.]]''
-->--'''Praedyth''', ''Videogame/{{Destiny}}''

->''Can you, mortal, presume to judge the actions and motives of a god?''

->''That's why the [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame Dwemer]] are the weirdest race in Tamriel and, frankly, also the scariest. They look(ed) like us, they sometimes act(ed) like us, but when you really put them under the magnifying glass you see nothing but vessels that house an intelligence and value system that is by all accounts Beyond Human Comprehension.''

->''[[AIIsACrapshoot The WAU]] is [[AssimilationPlot reaching out to every machine, every life form, to manipulate, to control]]. It’s trying to help, [[WellIntentionedExtremist save its creators]] from [[AfterTheEnd all this]], just like the protocol demands. But really, what is good enough? Where is the line drawn for what is human and what is not? Would [[ArtificialZombie walking corpses]] do? Would a group of machines [[BrainUploading thinking they’re human]] be acceptable? We can’t trust a machine to know, to understand what it means to ''be.
-->--'''Johan Ross,''' ''VideoGame/{{SOMA}}''

->''Joy is lost when something is given away. Your species is ridiculous.''
-->-- '''The Chiropterous Hoarder''' getting a gift, ''Videogame/SunlessSkies''

->''I know your type. You're, uh, very determined, aren't you? You'll never give up, even if there's, uh, absolutely NO benefit to persevering whatsoever... No matter what, you'll just keep going. Not out of any desire for good or evil, but just because you think you can. And because you "can"... you "have to".''

->''Orphion's circumstances are dire-- And so you must come to understand something. He is above us, in terms of morals. Such concepts do not apply to him. As the embodiment of Light itself, he has no sense of morals-- Merely survival and stasis. What he asks of us, many will balk at. It is a matter where morals must be set aside... And such a thing is one that Lari cannot abide by, for she has [[PacifismBackfire stubbornly clung to them]] for a thousand years.''

->'''Tex:''' Thanks for the [[HolographicDisguise light show,]] D.\\

'''Wyoming:''' [[OhCrap Bollocks.]]\\

->''It is interesting that every country seems to have its own, most often irrational, opinion which type of behavior is a big no-no and which isn’t. In Germany prostitution is completely legal, but proving yourself to be an idiot by saying that UsefulNotes/{{the holocaust}} [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holocaust_denial didn’t happen]] can land you in prison.''
-->-- ''Webcomic/SandraAndWoo'', [[http://www.sandraandwoo.com/2010/06/10/0172-not-a-role-model/ summing up]] this trope in two sentences.

->''Eat it, kill it, make friends with it or take a bath in it. Those are the points on your moral compass.''

->'''Florence:''' [[spoiler:Doctor Bowman]] didn't seem concerned when I told him the robots were almost destroyed.
->'''Henri:''' That's because you stopped it. It was a non-event. He doesn't concern himself with things that might have happened, but didn't... Don't let it bug you. It's how [[spoiler:Doctor Bowman]] is. Just think of it as the mental equivalent of the UncannyValley.

->''I'm not mean, I'm a thousand years old, and I just lost track of my moral code.''

->'''Finn''': I'm...into Zanoits...they're the best!\\
'''Bubblegum''': Zanoits kill hundreds of thousands of plantoids each year.\\
'''Finn''': Oh no, not the plantoids!\\
'''Bubblegum''': Plantoids produce mellotoxin.\\
'''Finn''': ...\\
'''Bubblegum''': Mellotoxin kills zanoits!\\
'''Finn''': So are zanoits....good things?

->''Well, [Rick]'s not a villain, but... he shouldn't be your hero, Summer. He's more like a demon or a super fucked-up god.''

->''[Discord] sure has a weird way of being supportive. ''

'''The Collector:''' So? Toys break all the time, you just fix 'em. ''(creates a doll of himself, rips off it's head and then reattaches it)''\\

->Interested persons may want to look into the work of psychologist Jonathan Haidt on "Moral Foundations theory," summarized in his book ''The Righteous Mind''. So far, he's found six moral attitudes that influence people's judgments -- often unconsciously — and they all arise pretty simply from selection pressures within groups and between groups. (There may be additional Moral Foundations. Research continues.) Many political and ideological conflicts arise not because one group is Good and another is Evil, but because people assign different weights to particular moral foundations — often to such an extent that they literally cannot comprehend what the other side is saying.\\

->''Perhaps some diseases perceived as diseases which destroy a well-functioning machine, in fact change the machine into a machine that does something else, and we have to figure out what it is that the machine now does. Instead of having a defective machine, we have a nicely-functioning machine that just has a different purpose. Part of it is a self-deceptive way of coping with the peculiarities of disease, but on the other hand I can imagine what it feels like to be a virus. The AIDS virus: look at it from its point of view — very vital, very excited, having a good time, it's made the front page and is really flexing its muscles and doing what it does. It's really a triumph if you're a virus. It's really good stuff that's happening, it's not bad at all.''
-->--'''Creator/DavidCronenberg'''

-> ''introducing a new alignment - chaotic lawful. i have a strict moral code but nobody can figure out what the hell it is''
-->--A Website/{{Twitter}} user

-->--'''Noam Chomsky''', on Michel Foucault.

-->-- '''Kyon''', ''[[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya The Astonishment of Haruhi Suzumiya]]''

-->-- '''Marx''', ''[[VideoGame/KirbySuperStar Vs. Marx]] [[Creator/ManOnTheInternet WITH LYRICS]]''

->''i know your type. you're, uh, very determined, aren't you? you'll never give up, even if there's, uh, absolutely NO benefit to persevering whatsoever... no matter what, you'll just keep going. not out of any desire for good or evil, but just because you think you can. and because you "can"... you "have to".''
-->-- [[spoiler:'''Sans''']], when you fight him at [[FinalBoss the end]] of a [[GottaKillEmAll Genocide]] run, ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''

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->'''Tex:''' Thanks for the [[HolographicDisguise light show,]] D.\\
'''[[ArtificialIntelligence Delta]]:''' I am here to assist.\\
'''Wyoming:''' [[OhCrap Bollocks.]]\\
'''Delta:''' However, I am afraid I will not be able to assist you further. York's armor is beginning to shut down.\\
'''Tex:''' I understand.\\
'''Delta:''' Good luck to both of you.\\
'''Wyoming:''' Both of us? You ''must'' be failing if you wish your enemy luck.\\
'''Delta:''' Good and evil are human constructs, Reginald. I was merely attempting to be courteous.
-->-- ''Machinima/RedVsBlue''

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-->-- [[spoiler:Sans]], when you fight him at [[FinalBoss the end]] of a [[GottaKillEmAll Genocide]] run, ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''

-->-- '''Shidan''', ''Fanfic/{{Embers}}''

->''"EARTH MORALS ARE WEIRD AND COMPLICATED, BUT I SUPPOSE SPACE MORALS MIGHT BE TOO, IF YOU WEREN'T RAISED WITH THEM."''

->Companions, the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks -- those who inscribe new values on new tablets. Fellow creators, the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest.

-->-- '''John Taylor''', ''Literature/{{Nightside}} : A Hard Days Knight''

->Old stories told how [[AnimalisticAbomination Weavers]] would kill each other over aesthetic disagreements, such as whether it was prettier to destroy an army of a thousand men or to leave it be, or whether a particular dandelion should or should not be plucked. For a Weaver, to think was to think aesthetically. To act – to [[RealityWarper Weave]] – was to bring about more pleasing patterns. They did not eat physical food: they seemed to subsist on the appreciation of beauty - a beauty unrecognized by humans or other denizens of the mudane plane.

->''[[MechanicalAbomination The Vex]] have no hope; no imagination, no drive, no fear. All they have is the pattern. Everything must fit. If it can be made to fit, good! If not... [[ObliviouslyEvil it gets cut away.]]''
-->--'''Praedyth''', ''Videogame/{{Destiny}}''