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-->--Tip No. 172 in ''VisualNovel/SteinsGateZero''

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-->--Tip No. 172 in ''VisualNovel/SteinsGateZero''
''VisualNovel/SteinsGate0''
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'''Yzma:''' Uh... How ''did'' we, Kronk?\\

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'''Yzma:''' Ah-- ''(pauses)'' Uh... How ''did'' we, Kronk?\\
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->''"Now, kudos to the show. The brush reveal is a striking twist. [...] But once you do one thing, just one thing, this twist, and to some extent, the whole show, fall apart. And that thing is: watch the show leading up to the twist."''
-->-- '''WebVideo/MicTheSnare''', on the ending to ''Series/TheIdol''
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It's seppuku


->''"Riku drones on for a while about how Kairi is the last princess Ansem needs for his evil scheme, and also remember when Destiny Islands blew up and Kairi went 'jsshzshz' through Sora, yeah, her heart has been inside of Sora this whole time. Sora goes 'Ewww omg' and [[HeroicSacrifice commits sudoku]] with his Keyblade.\\

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->''"Riku drones on for a while about how Kairi is the last princess Ansem needs for his evil scheme, and also remember when Destiny Islands blew up and Kairi went 'jsshzshz' through Sora, yeah, her heart has been inside of Sora this whole time. Sora goes 'Ewww omg' and [[HeroicSacrifice commits commits]] [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign sudoku]] with his Keyblade.\\
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->''But when it comes to [the protagonist's] domestic happiness, the author grows impatient. He has already prepared estrangement between husband and wife through the doctor’s behaviour; but for no very adequate reason, he suddenly abandons this line of development, and by an arbitrary act, hastily gets rid of the wife by pushing her under a bus. One cannot defend this intervention by saying that virtuous people in real life are frequently killed by road-vehicles. The episode is wholly extraneous to the structural unity of the story; it is an irrelevant miracle.

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->''But when it comes to [the protagonist's] domestic happiness, the author grows impatient. He has already prepared estrangement between husband and wife through the doctor’s behaviour; but for no very adequate reason, he suddenly abandons this line of development, and by an arbitrary act, hastily gets rid of the wife by pushing her under a bus. One cannot defend this intervention by saying that virtuous people in real life are frequently killed by road-vehicles. The episode is wholly extraneous to the structural unity of the story; it is an irrelevant miracle. ''
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->''But when it comes to [the protagonist's] domestic happiness, the author grows impatient. He has already prepared estrangement between husband and wife through the doctor’s behaviour; but for no very adequate reason, he suddenly abandons this line of development, and by an arbitrary act, hastily gets rid of the wife by pushing her under a bus. One cannot defend this intervention by saying that virtuous people in real life are frequently killed by road-vehicles. The episode is wholly extraneous to the structural unity of the story; it is an irrelevant miracle.
-->-- Creator/DorothyLSayers, ''The Mind of the Maker'' (discussing ''Literature/TheCitadel'' by Cronin)
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->There are ''way'' too many unanswered questions here for this turn of events to work as a surprise ending, but that's exactly how Whannell and Bousman spring it on us. If your "shocking twist" is shocking primarily because it doesn't make any fucking sense, then you’re doing it wrong.\\
-->-- '''Scott "El Santo" Ashlin, ''[[http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewsn-z/sawii.htm 1000 Misspent Hours]]'', on the ending of ''Film/SawII''.

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->There are ''way'' too many unanswered questions here for this turn of events to work as a surprise ending, but that's exactly how Whannell and Bousman spring it on us. If your "shocking twist" is shocking primarily because it doesn't make any fucking sense, then you’re doing it wrong.\\
wrong.
-->-- '''Scott "El Santo" Ashlin, Ashlin''', ''[[http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewsn-z/sawii.htm 1000 Misspent Hours]]'', on the ending of ''Film/SawII''.
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->There are ''way'' too many unanswered questions here for this turn of events to work as a surprise ending, but that's exactly how Whannell and Bousman spring it on us. If your "shocking twist" is shocking primarily because it doesn't make any fucking sense, then you’re doing it wrong.\\
-->-- '''Scott "El Santo" Ashlin, ''[[http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewsn-z/sawii.htm 1000 Misspent Hours]]'', on the ending of ''Film/SawII''.
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->''Remember, the last thing we heard from Amanda after she told her story in ''[[Film/SawI Saw]]'' was a meek admission that "He helped me." It's a troublingly ambiguous moment, and one of the best in the entire film. Now it is revealed that Kramer continued to keep tabs on Amanda after her escape, and that he visited her again when she attempted suicide by slitting her wrists. At first, we're encouraged to believe that this backsliding into whatever cloud of existential gloom led her to take up heroin while she was incarcerated is the reason why she's locked in the house along with the others; Kramer's stern lesson in gratitude evidently didn't take, so he's sending her back to school for some remedial studies. That accords perfectly with what we know of Kramer's character, so we never think to question the interpretation [[spoiler:until the moment Amanda springs Kramer's final trap on Matthews. What really happened, though, was that Kramer rescued Amanda from herself the second time in a manner that most of us would be much more comfortable describing as rescue. Recognizing how little time was left to him, and more convinced than ever of his project's importance to the human race, he got Amanda patched up, and then took her under his wing as an apprentice so that the work might continue even if he himself did not.]] There are several problems with this scenario. First of all, we already know from the last movie what a low opinion Kramer holds of suicides, and how unforgiving he is in general of human weakness. Consequently, [[spoiler:this outpouring of paternal solicitude for Amanda is absolutely the last thing we might plausibly expect from him]]. Meanwhile, it's no more credible that [[spoiler:Amanda would embrace the man who once forced her to choose between dying and becoming a killer, no matter how conflicted her feelings about the ordeal might have become in its aftermath. The official position of both the characters and the screenwriters may be that Kramer gave Amanda a new appreciation for life, but the very fact that she wound up slashing her wrists scant weeks later demonstrates that he did no such thing.]] There are ''way'' too many unanswered questions here for this turn of events to work as a surprise ending, but that's exactly how Whannell and Bousman spring it on us. If your "shocking twist" is shocking primarily because it doesn't make any fucking sense, then you're doing it wrong.''
-->--'''Scott "El Santo" Ashlin''', [[http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewsn-z/sawii.htm 1000 Misspent Hours]], on ''Film/SawII''

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-->-- ''Film/TheForceAwakens''

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-->-- ''Film/TheForceAwakens''
''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens]]''



--> -- ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker''

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--> -- ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker''
''[[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker]]''



'''[[LetsPlay/ClementJ642 ClamentJ64]]:''' What?! What does that even mean?! "I hid myself while I tried to repair myself." [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe He was a fucking torso!]] [[AnArmAndALeg Who had a Mega Buster for an arm!]] I... what?! In VideoGame/MegaManX1 he was a torso then but he didn't repair himself! This is retarded! There is nothing more retarded than this. And at the end of [[VideoGame/MegaManX5 X5]], he said that in order for there to be peace, he should probably die for a while! Maybe if I was gone there would be peace! So why would he rebuild himself?! He had the whole intention of dying! Good job [[VideoGame/MegaManX6 X6]]! Good job {{retcon}}ning that!

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'''[[LetsPlay/ClementJ642 ClamentJ64]]:''' What?! What does that even mean?! "I hid myself while I tried to repair myself." [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe He was a fucking torso!]] [[AnArmAndALeg Who had a Mega Buster for an arm!]] I... what?! In VideoGame/MegaManX1 ''VideoGame/MegaManX1'', he was a torso then but he didn't repair himself! This is retarded! There is nothing more retarded than this. And at the end of [[VideoGame/MegaManX5 X5]], ''[[VideoGame/MegaManX5 X5]]'', he said that in order for there to be peace, he should probably die for a while! Maybe if I was gone there would be peace! So why would he rebuild himself?! He had the whole intention of dying! Good job [[VideoGame/MegaManX6 X6]]! ''[[VideoGame/MegaManX6 X6]]''! Good job {{retcon}}ning that!


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->'''Stewie:''' No, no, no, this won't do. You can't just have Snuggly Jeff magically brought back to life by a child's wish, it's insulting to the reader!\\
'''Brian:''' What do you mean?\\
'''Stewie:''' Well it's just bad storytelling! Did you ever see the movie ''Film/{{Contact}}''? So like, they spent a trillion dollars building this mile-high space machine and Creator/JakeBusey blows it up. So now they're all like "Oh no, we can't use the space machine!", but then this other guy is like "Hey, it just so happens, I built another identical trillion dollar space machine at my own expense on the other side of the world." And we're supposed to believe no one noticed that? Well, I stood up in the theater and said No! You can't go into space because the machine already got blown up by ''Jake-Cockadoody-Busey''!
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E15ThreeKings Three Kings]]"
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->'''Raiden:''' Nice argument, Senator. Why don't you back it up with a ''source?!''\\

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->'''Raiden:''' Nice That's a nice argument, Senator. Why don't you back it up with a ''source?!''\\



-->-- ''[[WebVideo/{{Max0r}} An Incorrect Summary of Metal Gear Rising | Part 2 | Sons of Obesity]]''

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-->-- ''[[WebVideo/{{Max0r}} An ''WebVideo/{{Max0r}},'' "An Incorrect Summary of [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Metal Gear Rising Rising]] | Part 2 | Sons of Obesity]]''
Obesity"
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->''"Remember that nanny-bot who adopts the human child? Towards the end, it turns out [[spoiler:the child was ''also'' an android all along]]! Ooh, what a twist! An inadequately explored twist that adds nothing to the story and may even be detrimental to it! I mean, [[spoiler:'can a robot mother truly love a human child']] was a question with some power to it in this context. But [[spoiler:can a robot love another robot]]? YES! They can! We know they can! We've seen like twelve of the buggers doing it already! It's just a twist for the sake of having a twist. In other words, it's a David Cage twist."''

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->''"Remember that nanny-bot who adopts the human child? Towards the end, it turns out [[spoiler:the child was ''also'' ALSO an android all along]]! Ooh, what a twist! An inadequately explored twist that adds nothing to the story and may even be detrimental to it! I mean, [[spoiler:'can a robot mother truly love a human child']] was a question with some power to it in this context. But [[spoiler:can a robot love another robot]]? YES! They can! We know they can! We've seen like twelve of the buggers doing it already! It's just a twist for the sake of having a twist. In other words, it's a David Cage twist."''

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->''"Remember that nanny-bot who adopts the human child? Towards the end, it turns out [[spoiler:the child was ''also'' an android all along]]! Ooh, what a twist! An inadequately explored twist that adds nothing to the story and may even be detrimental to it! I mean, [[spoiler:'can a robot mother truly love a human child']] was a question with some power to it in this context. But [[spoiler:can a robot love another robot]]? YES! They can! We know they can! We've seen like twelve of the buggers doing it already! It's just a twist for the sake of having a twist. In other words, it's a David Cage twist."''
-->-- ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' on ''VideoGame/DetroitBecomeHuman''


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->''"Remember that nanny-bot who adopts the human child? Towards the end, it turns out [[spoiler:the child was ''also'' an android all along]]! Ooh, what a twist! An inadequately explored twist that adds nothing to the story and may even be detrimental to it! I mean, [[spoiler:'can a robot mother truly love a human child']] was a question with some power to it in this context. But [[spoiler:can a robot love another robot]]? YES! They can! We know they can! We've seen like twelve of the buggers doing it already! It's just a twist for the sake of having a twist. In other words, it's a David Cage twist."''
-->-- ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' on ''VideoGame/DetroitBecomeHuman''
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->''"Remember that nanny-boy who adopts the human child? Towards the end, it turns out the child was ''also'' an android all along! Ooh, what a twist! An inadequately explored twist that adds nothing to the story and may even be detrimental to it! I mean, 'can a robot mother truly love a human child' was a question with some powetr to it in this context. But can a robot love another robot? YES! They can! We know they can! We've seen like twelve of the buggers doing it already! It's just a twist for the sake of having a twist. In other words, it's a David Cage twist."''

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->''"Remember that nanny-boy nanny-bot who adopts the human child? Towards the end, it turns out the [[spoiler:the child was ''also'' an android all along! along]]! Ooh, what a twist! An inadequately explored twist that adds nothing to the story and may even be detrimental to it! I mean, 'can [[spoiler:'can a robot mother truly love a human child' child']] was a question with some powetr power to it in this context. But can [[spoiler:can a robot love another robot? robot]]? YES! They can! We know they can! We've seen like twelve of the buggers doing it already! It's just a twist for the sake of having a twist. In other words, it's a David Cage twist."''

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->''"WHAT?! That's not a plot twist... it's a plot backside rodeo 1080!"''

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->''"WHAT?! ->'''Marina:''' So I guess in the new version of the fable, the hare ends up winning...
->'''Pearl:''' Yup. It's time for a gritty reboot of the Tortoise and the Hare. THIS SUMMER...
->'''Marina:''' Dear cod...
->'''Pearl:''' The hare had just won the race. She was taking a victory lap, when suddenly...
->'''Marina:''' Suddenly what?!
->'''Pearl:''' Mysterious creatures emerge from the sea to threaten their peaceful village! So the tortoise and the hare join forces to rescue their kidnapped friends!
->'''Marina:''' WHAT?!
That's not a plot twist... it's a plot backside rodeo 1080!"''1080!




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->''"Remember that nanny-boy who adopts the human child? Towards the end, it turns out the child was ''also'' an android all along! Ooh, what a twist! An inadequately explored twist that adds nothing to the story and may even be detrimental to it! I mean, 'can a robot mother truly love a human child' was a question with some powetr to it in this context. But can a robot love another robot? YES! They can! We know they can! We've seen like twelve of the buggers doing it already! It's just a twist for the sake of having a twist. In other words, it's a David Cage twist."''
-->-- ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' on ''VideoGame/DetroitBecomeHuman''
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'''Armstrong:''' My source is that I made it the ''fuck'' up!

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'''Armstrong:''' My source is that I made '''made it the ''fuck'' up!fuck up!'''
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-->-- ''[[WebVideo/{{Max0r}} An Incorrect Summary of]] [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Metal Gear Rising]] [[WebVideo/{{Max0r}} | Part 2 | Sons of Obesity]]''

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-->-- ''[[WebVideo/{{Max0r}} An Incorrect Summary of]] [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance of Metal Gear Rising]] [[WebVideo/{{Max0r}} Rising | Part 2 | Sons of Obesity]]''
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->Too many authors these days think an ending has to subvert audience expectations, when in fact an ending in line with how the story is told is usually the better choice.\\
Audience subversion is earned not imposed.

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->Too ->''Too many authors these days think an ending has to subvert audience expectations, when in fact an ending in line with how the story is told is usually the better choice.\\
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''Audience
subversion is earned not imposed.''
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->Too many authors these days think an ending has to subvert audience expectations, when in fact an ending in line with how the story is told is usually the better choice.\\
Audience subversion is earned not imposed.
-->--'''[[https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDevilIsAPartTimer/comments/mv0n8n/yah_i_know_im_8_months_late_to_the_punch_but_the/ zikakuto]]''' on the ending to the light novel continuity of ''Literature/TheDevilIsAPartTimer''
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->''Remember, the last thing we heard from Amanda after she told her story in ''[[Film/SawI Saw]]'' was a meek admission that "He helped me." It's a troublingly ambiguous moment, and one of the best in the entire film. Now it is revealed that Kramer continued to keep tabs on Amanda after her escape, and that he visited her again when she attempted suicide by slitting her wrists. At first, we're encouraged to believe that this backsliding into whatever cloud of existential gloom led her to take up heroin while she was incarcerated is the reason why she's locked in the house along with the others; Kramer's stern lesson in gratitude evidently didn't take, so he's sending her back to school for some remedial studies. That accords perfectly with what we know of Kramer's character, so we never think to question the interpretation [[spoiler:until the moment Amanda springs Kramer's final trap on Matthews. What ''really'' happened, though, was that Kramer rescued Amanda from herself the second time in a manner that most of us would be much more comfortable describing as rescue. Recognizing how little time was left to him, and more convinced than ever of his project's importance to the human race, he got Amanda patched up, and then took her under his wing as an apprentice so that the work might continue even if he himself did not.]] There are several problems with this scenario. First of all, we already know from the last movie what a low opinion Kramer holds of suicides, and how unforgiving he is in general of human weakness. Consequently, [[spoiler:this outpouring of paternal solicitude for Amanda is absolutely the last thing we might plausibly expect from him]]. Meanwhile, it's no more credible that [[spoiler:Amanda would embrace the man who once forced her to choose between dying and becoming a killer, no matter how conflicted her feelings about the ordeal might have become in its aftermath. The official position of both the characters and the screenwriters may be that Kramer gave Amanda a new appreciation for life, but the very fact that she wound up slashing her wrists scant weeks later demonstrates that he did no such thing.]] There are ''way'' too many unanswered questions here for this turn of events to work as a surprise ending, but that's exactly how Whannell and Bousman spring it on us. If your "shocking twist" is shocking primarily because it doesn't make any fucking sense, then you're doing it wrong.''

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->''Remember, the last thing we heard from Amanda after she told her story in ''[[Film/SawI Saw]]'' was a meek admission that "He helped me." It's a troublingly ambiguous moment, and one of the best in the entire film. Now it is revealed that Kramer continued to keep tabs on Amanda after her escape, and that he visited her again when she attempted suicide by slitting her wrists. At first, we're encouraged to believe that this backsliding into whatever cloud of existential gloom led her to take up heroin while she was incarcerated is the reason why she's locked in the house along with the others; Kramer's stern lesson in gratitude evidently didn't take, so he's sending her back to school for some remedial studies. That accords perfectly with what we know of Kramer's character, so we never think to question the interpretation [[spoiler:until the moment Amanda springs Kramer's final trap on Matthews. What ''really'' really happened, though, was that Kramer rescued Amanda from herself the second time in a manner that most of us would be much more comfortable describing as rescue. Recognizing how little time was left to him, and more convinced than ever of his project's importance to the human race, he got Amanda patched up, and then took her under his wing as an apprentice so that the work might continue even if he himself did not.]] There are several problems with this scenario. First of all, we already know from the last movie what a low opinion Kramer holds of suicides, and how unforgiving he is in general of human weakness. Consequently, [[spoiler:this outpouring of paternal solicitude for Amanda is absolutely the last thing we might plausibly expect from him]]. Meanwhile, it's no more credible that [[spoiler:Amanda would embrace the man who once forced her to choose between dying and becoming a killer, no matter how conflicted her feelings about the ordeal might have become in its aftermath. The official position of both the characters and the screenwriters may be that Kramer gave Amanda a new appreciation for life, but the very fact that she wound up slashing her wrists scant weeks later demonstrates that he did no such thing.]] There are ''way'' too many unanswered questions here for this turn of events to work as a surprise ending, but that's exactly how Whannell and Bousman spring it on us. If your "shocking twist" is shocking primarily because it doesn't make any fucking sense, then you're doing it wrong.''

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