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->''I especially don’t consider anything either does with any of the echidna characters – especially Locke – to be canon as neither created the characters nor established them in stories as the viable fan favorites they’ve become. No matter what [[Creator/IanFlynn Ian]] writes, he can never alter the fact that in MY universe, the events of Locke’s passing as depicted in SONIC #143 is canon. Anything he writes can easily be counter-written by a better story with an alternative solution.''
-->-- '''Creator/KenPenders''', former writer of ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics''.

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->From the studio that inexplicably [[Film/XMenOriginsWolverine sewed his fucking mouth shut the first time,]] comes five-time Academy Award viewer Creator/RyanReynolds, as a man on an eharmony date with destiny.

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->From the studio that inexplicably [[OldShame inexplicably]] [[Film/XMenOriginsWolverine sewed his fucking mouth shut the first time,]] comes five-time Academy Award viewer Creator/RyanReynolds, as a man on an eharmony date with destiny.
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-->-- ''Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man'' (2019)

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-->-- ''Friendly ''[[ComicBook/SpiderMan Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man'' Spider-Man]]'' (2019)
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-->-- ''Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man'', (2019)

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-->-- ''Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man'', Spider-Man'' (2019)
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->During a [[FreakLabAccident random sci-fi accident]], [[LiteralSplitPersonality Peter and Spidey become two different guys]], divying up their personality traits equally among the two of them. [...] That's when I figured Spencer was going for something a little unconventional. He split Peter Parker into two halves-- the character we all know and love who [[ComesGreatResponsibility just wants to be responsible]], and a not-so-exaggerated caricature of modern Spider-Man. I was wracking my brain over it for days, but I figured it out. This is that obnoxious, selfish douchebag that we've been reading for the past ten years. [...] Spencer takes every negative and annoying trope from the other run and turns it into a character that fully expresses what was so wrong with the book for ten years. In fact, he takes this version of Spidey and turns him into an antagonist for Peter. Peter doesn't beat him by just being smarter, in fact he takes advantage of Slott-Spidey's negligence and defeats him in a really simple way even an idiot could've pulled off. Peter ultimately triumphs because responsibility is the most powerful trait between the two of them. Even though the other guy has the brains, the jokes, and all the powers, he wasn't really Spider-Man, because Spider-Man is about doing the right thing even when it puts you in a world of hurt, not doing the wrong thing to avoid being hurt.

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->During a [[FreakLabAccident random sci-fi accident]], [[LiteralSplitPersonality Peter and Spidey become two different guys]], divying up their personality traits equally among the two of them. [...] That's when I figured Spencer was going for something a little unconventional. He split Peter Parker into two halves-- the character we all know and love who [[ComesGreatResponsibility just wants to be responsible]], and a [[PoesLaw not-so-exaggerated caricature caricature]] of modern Spider-Man. I was wracking my brain over it for days, but I figured it out. This is that obnoxious, selfish douchebag that we've been reading for the past ten years. [...] Spencer takes every negative and annoying trope from the other run and turns it into a character that fully expresses what was so wrong with the book for ten years. In fact, he takes this version of Spidey and turns him into an antagonist for Peter. Peter doesn't beat him by just being smarter, in fact he takes advantage of Slott-Spidey's negligence and defeats him in a really simple way even an idiot could've pulled off. Peter ultimately triumphs because responsibility is the most powerful trait between the two of them. Even though the other guy has the brains, the jokes, and all the powers, he wasn't really Spider-Man, because Spider-Man is about doing the right thing even when it puts you in a world of hurt, not doing the wrong thing to avoid being hurt.
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->During a [[FreakLabAccident random sci-fi accident]], [[LiteralSplitPersonality Peter and Spidey become two different guys]], divying up their personality traits equally among the two of them. [...] That's when I figured Spencer was going for something a little unconventional. He split Peter Parker into two halves-- the character we all know and love who just wants to be responsible, and a not-so-exaggerated caricature of modern Spider-Man. I was wracking my brain over it for days, but I figured it out. This is that obnoxious, selfish douchebag that we've been reading for the past ten years. [...] Spencer takes every negative and annoying trope from the other run and turns it into a character that fully expresses what was so wrong with the book for ten years. In fact, he takes this version of Spidey and turns him into an antagonist for Peter. Peter doesn't beat him by just being smarter, in fact he takes advantage of Slott-Spidey's negligence and defeats him in a really simple way even an idiot could've pulled off. Peter ultimately triumphs because responsibility is the most powerful trait between the two of them. Even though the other guy has the brains, the jokes, and all the powers, he wasn't really Spider-Man, because Spider-Man is about doing the right thing even when it puts you in a world of hurt, not doing the wrong thing to avoid being hurt.

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->During a [[FreakLabAccident random sci-fi accident]], [[LiteralSplitPersonality Peter and Spidey become two different guys]], divying up their personality traits equally among the two of them. [...] That's when I figured Spencer was going for something a little unconventional. He split Peter Parker into two halves-- the character we all know and love who [[ComesGreatResponsibility just wants to be responsible, responsible]], and a not-so-exaggerated caricature of modern Spider-Man. I was wracking my brain over it for days, but I figured it out. This is that obnoxious, selfish douchebag that we've been reading for the past ten years. [...] Spencer takes every negative and annoying trope from the other run and turns it into a character that fully expresses what was so wrong with the book for ten years. In fact, he takes this version of Spidey and turns him into an antagonist for Peter. Peter doesn't beat him by just being smarter, in fact he takes advantage of Slott-Spidey's negligence and defeats him in a really simple way even an idiot could've pulled off. Peter ultimately triumphs because responsibility is the most powerful trait between the two of them. Even though the other guy has the brains, the jokes, and all the powers, he wasn't really Spider-Man, because Spider-Man is about doing the right thing even when it puts you in a world of hurt, not doing the wrong thing to avoid being hurt.
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-->-- ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' [[https://www.youtube.com./watch?v=QPZHBjyUGhQ trailer trailer]]

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-->-- ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' ''Film/{{Deadpool|2016}}'' [[https://www.youtube.com./watch?v=QPZHBjyUGhQ trailer trailer]]
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->During a [[FreakLabAccident random sci-fi accident]], [[LiteralSplitPersonality Peter and Spidey become two different guys]], divying up their personality traits equally among the two of them. [...] That's when I figured Spencer was going for something a little unconventional. He split Peter Parker into two halves-- the character we all know and love who just wants to be responsible, and a not-so-exaggerated caricature of modern Spider-Man. I was wracking my brain over it for days, but I figured it out. This is that obnoxious, selfish douchebag that we've been reading for the past ten years. [...] Spencer takes every negative and annoying trope from the other run and turns it into a character that fully expresses what was so wrong with the book for ten years. In fact, he takes this version of Spidey and turns him into an antagonist for Peter. Peter doesn't beat him by just being smarter, in fact he takes advantage of Slott-Spidey's negligence and defeats him in a really simple way even an idiot could've pulled off. Peter ultimately triumphs because responsibility is the most powerful trait between the two of them. Even though the other guy has the brains, the jokes, and all the powers, he wasn't really Spider-Man, because Spider-Man is about doing the right thing even when it puts you in a world of hurt, bot doing the wrong thing to avoid being hurt.

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->During a [[FreakLabAccident random sci-fi accident]], [[LiteralSplitPersonality Peter and Spidey become two different guys]], divying up their personality traits equally among the two of them. [...] That's when I figured Spencer was going for something a little unconventional. He split Peter Parker into two halves-- the character we all know and love who just wants to be responsible, and a not-so-exaggerated caricature of modern Spider-Man. I was wracking my brain over it for days, but I figured it out. This is that obnoxious, selfish douchebag that we've been reading for the past ten years. [...] Spencer takes every negative and annoying trope from the other run and turns it into a character that fully expresses what was so wrong with the book for ten years. In fact, he takes this version of Spidey and turns him into an antagonist for Peter. Peter doesn't beat him by just being smarter, in fact he takes advantage of Slott-Spidey's negligence and defeats him in a really simple way even an idiot could've pulled off. Peter ultimately triumphs because responsibility is the most powerful trait between the two of them. Even though the other guy has the brains, the jokes, and all the powers, he wasn't really Spider-Man, because Spider-Man is about doing the right thing even when it puts you in a world of hurt, bot not doing the wrong thing to avoid being hurt.
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->During a [[FreakLabAccident random sci-fi accident]], [[LiteralSplitPersonality Peter and Spidey become two different guys]], divying up their personality traits equally among the two of them. [...] That's when I figured Spencer was going for something a little unconventional. He split Peter Parker into two halves-- the character we all know and love who just wants to be responsible, and a not-so-exaggerated caricature of modern Spider-Man. I was wracking my brain over it for days, but I figured it out. This is that obnoxious, selfish douchebag that we've been reading for the past ten years. [...] Spencer takes every negative and annoying trope from the other run and turns it into a character that fully expresses what was so wrong with the book for ten years. In fact, he takes this version of Spidey and turns him into an antagonist for Peter. Peter doesn't beat him by just being smarter, in fact he takes advantage of Slott-Spidey's negligence and defeats him in a really simple way even an idiot could've pulled off. Peter ultimately triumphs because responsibility is the most powerful trait between the two of them. Even though the other guy has the brains, the jokes, and all the powers, he wasn't really Spider-Man, because Spider-Man is about doing the right thing even when it puts you in a world of hurt, bot doing the wrong thing to avoid being hurt.
-->-- '''[=GodzillaMendoza=]''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dlpb5VBYMo How Nick Spencer Redeemed Spider-Man]]"
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-->-- "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dlpb5VBYMo How Nick Spencer Redeemed Spider-Man]]"

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-->-- '''[=GodzillaMendoza=]''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dlpb5VBYMo How Nick Spencer Redeemed Spider-Man]]"
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->I think this book is written almost entirely from an angle of criticizing modern Spider-Man comics that came before it. [...] And like I said, I think the most interesting part about this book happens to be the not-so-subtle differences between [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's Peter Parker]] and [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's Peter Parker]], which is kind of what the whole first arc is about. Despite the two of them aligning pretty much the same politically and being friends behind the scenes, I can't help but notice how much of the subtext of this book seems to be taking potshots at Slott's writing over the years. Nick Spencer's ''Amazing Spider-Man'' book deconstructs and heavily criticizes Dan Slott's ''Amazing Spider-Man'' book. Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the book. It's essentially saying that the weird direction the book has been going for ten years is over, and that Spencer is going to bring back a more traditional version of Peter Parker that's closer to what we had before...[[ComicBook/OneMoreDay blegh]].
-->-- "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dlpb5VBYMo How Nick Spencer Redeemed Spider-Man]]"

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'''Spider-Man:''' Probably best to avoid that.

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'''Spider-Man:''' [[DisContinuityNod Probably best to avoid that.that]].



->''Anyway'', with [[CriticsAndReviewers the site]], I deal with pros and publishers, and, y'know, basically ''partner up, help out'', ''[[TheShill push]]'' certain things. I mean, it's like you practically work for them ''already''! And [[FanConvention this show]] could be a ''big'' break -- a guy who owes me a favor at {{Creator/DC|Comics}} is gonna introduce me around, [[HireTheCritic maybe even get me into the DC party]]. Not bad, huh?\\
'''(Jerry and Pete agree.)'''\\
No, not bad. I just have to keep workin' it... eat a few more years of ''shit'' until, one day, ''Shazam!'' [[PromotedFanboy There I am in the]] ''[[PromotedFanboy big]]'' [[PromotedFanboy sandbox]], full of all the ''best'' fuckin' toys ever. [-Franchise/{{Batman}}. Franchise/{{Superman}}. ComicBook/{{Superboy}}. Hal Jordan Franchise/GreenLantern. [[ComicBook/{{Valor}} Mon-El]].-] [--[[MadnessMantra Mon-El. Mon-El.]]--] Then, I start all over again -- only from ''within'', like a conquering ''virus'', until I'm in a position to establish my ''so-called "shitty" fan-fic as canon''. '''[[TheyCalledMeMad That'll show 'em. All of 'em! And the butthurt little fanshits that don't like it can go bag, board, and skull-fuck themselves]]!'''
-->-- '''Josh''' describes his plans for the future, ''The Eltingville Club'' #2, "Lo, There Shall Be An Epilogue!"



->''Anyway'', with [[CriticsAndReviewers the site]], I deal with pros and publishers, and, y'know, basically ''partner up, help out'', ''[[TheShill push]]'' certain things. I mean, it's like you practically work for them ''already''! And [[FanConvention this show]] could be a ''big'' break -- a guy who owes me a favor at {{Creator/DC|Comics}} is gonna introduce me around, [[HireTheCritic maybe even get me into the DC party]]. Not bad, huh?\\
'''(Jerry and Pete agree.)'''\\
No, not bad. I just have to keep workin' it... eat a few more years of ''shit'' until, one day, ''Shazam!'' [[PromotedFanboy There I am in the]] ''[[PromotedFanboy big]]'' [[PromotedFanboy sandbox]], full of all the ''best'' fuckin' toys ever. [-Franchise/{{Batman}}. Franchise/{{Superman}}. ComicBook/{{Superboy}}. Hal Jordan Franchise/GreenLantern. [[ComicBook/{{Valor}} Mon-El]].-] [--[[MadnessMantra Mon-El. Mon-El.]]--] Then, I start all over again -- only from ''within'', like a conquering ''virus'', until I'm in a position to establish my ''so-called "shitty" fan-fic as canon''. '''[[TheyCalledMeMad That'll show 'em. All of 'em! And the butthurt little fanshits that don't like it can go bag, board, and skull-fuck themselves]]!'''
-->-- '''Josh''' describes his plans for the future, ''The Eltingville Club'' #2, "Lo, There Shall Be An Epilogue!"

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->I thought it was a nice touch to have Ben harshly criticize Peter's pact with {{ComicBook/Venom}}. It showed that Ben was more like the Peter Parker we knew, loved and remembered [[CerebusSyndrome than Peter was being at that time]]...I always hated the pact between Peter and Venom, I thought it was so out of character for Peter to make such a deal with a villain as obviously crazy and dangerous as Venom, and it was especially interesting to hear Ben voicing my own opinion. It was good to see this used as a way to show a major difference between Peter and Ben, and to perhaps imply that [[HeWhoFightsMonsters all was not right with Peter]], that maybe Ben was the preferable choice between the two.
-->-- Writer/Editor '''Glenn Greenberg''' on ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga''

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->I thought it was a nice touch to have Ben harshly criticize Peter's pact with {{ComicBook/Venom}}. It showed that Ben was more like the Peter Parker we knew, loved and remembered [[CerebusSyndrome than Peter was being at that time]]...I always hated the pact between Peter and Venom, I thought it was so out of character for Peter to make such a deal with a villain as obviously crazy and dangerous as Venom, and it was especially interesting to hear Ben voicing my own opinion. It was good to see this used as a way to show a major difference between Peter and Ben, and to perhaps imply that [[HeWhoFightsMonsters all was not right with Peter]], that maybe Ben was the preferable choice between the two.
-->-- Writer/Editor '''Glenn Greenberg''' on ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga''
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->I thought it was a nice touch to have Ben harshly criticize Peter's pact with {{ComicBook/Venom}}. It showed that Ben was more like the Peter Parker we knew, loved and remembered [[CerebusSyndrome than Peter was being at that time]]...I always hated the pact between Peter and Venom, I thought it was so out of character for Peter to make such a deal with a villain as obviously crazy and dangerous as Venom, and it was especially interesting to hear Ben voicing my own opinion. It was good to see this used as a way to show a major difference between Peter and Ben, and to perhaps imply that [[HeWhoFightsMonsters all was not right with Peter]], that maybe Ben was the preferable choice between the two.
-->-- Writer/Editor '''Glenn Greenberg''' on ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga''
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->'''Spider-Man:''' Someone I know is sick. Very sick. I don't suppose...?\\
'''Doctor Strange:''' There are many things I can do. There are things I can't. It's possible we could [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay make a deal with an interdimensional demon]], but you know, that could come with an eternity of torment.\\
'''Spider-Man:''' Probably best to avoid that.
-->-- ''Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man'', (2019)
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-->-- ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' trailer trailer

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-->-- ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' [[https://www.youtube.com./watch?v=QPZHBjyUGhQ trailer trailer
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-->-- ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' teaser

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->From the studio that inexplicable [[Film/XMenOriginsWolverine sewed his fucking mouth shut the first time,]] comes five-time Academy Award viewer Creator/RyanReynolds, as a man on an eharmony date with destiny.

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->From the studio that inexplicable inexplicably [[Film/XMenOriginsWolverine sewed his fucking mouth shut the first time,]] comes five-time Academy Award viewer Creator/RyanReynolds, as a man on an eharmony date with destiny.
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->From the studio that inexplicable [[Film/XMenOriginsWolverine sewed his fucking mouth shut the first time,]] comes five-time Academy Award viewer Creator/RyanReynolds, as a man on an eharmony date with destiny.
-->-- ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' teaser
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->[[Creator/TimothyDalton Dalton’s]] Bond is a flawed character, but the movie embraces his flaws. While [[Creator/SeanConnery Connery]] and [[Creator/RogerMoore Moore]] were at times incredibly sexist, this marks the first time I noticed the movie calling Bond on his attitudes....M assures Bond that MI6 is “not a country club” -- perhaps a direct reference the excesses of Moore’s time in the role, when it seemed like the spy organisation was basically a gentleman’s club Bond frequented?

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->[[Creator/TimothyDalton Dalton’s]] Bond is a flawed character, but the movie embraces his flaws. While [[Creator/SeanConnery Connery]] and [[Creator/RogerMoore Moore]] were at times incredibly sexist, this marks the first time I noticed the movie calling Bond on his attitudes....M assures Bond that MI6 [=MI6=] is “not a country club” -- perhaps a direct reference the excesses of Moore’s time in the role, when it seemed like the spy organisation was basically a gentleman’s club Bond frequented?
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-->--Writer/Editor '''Glenn Greenberg''' on ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga''

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-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2011/01/21/non-review-review-licence-to-kill/ Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Film/LicenceToKill''

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-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.-->-- '''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2011/01/21/non-review-review-licence-to-kill/ Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Film/LicenceToKill''



-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/deep-space-nine-season-seven.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', "It's Only a Paper Moon"

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-->--'''[[http://www.-->-- '''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/deep-space-nine-season-seven.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', "It's Only a Paper Moon"



-->'''[[https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/42361306/ Searcher8]]''', Website/SpaceBattlesDotCom

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-->'''[[https://forums.-->-- '''[[https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/42361306/ Searcher8]]''', Website/SpaceBattlesDotCom



-->'''Josh''' describes his plans for the future, ''The Eltingville Club'' #2, "Lo, There Shall Be An Epilogue!"

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-->'''[[https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/42361306/ Searcher8]]''', SpaceBattlesDotCom

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-->'''[[https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/42361306/ Searcher8]]''', SpaceBattlesDotComWebsite/SpaceBattlesDotCom

->''Anyway'', with [[CriticsAndReviewers the site]], I deal with pros and publishers, and, y'know, basically ''partner up, help out'', ''[[TheShill push]]'' certain things. I mean, it's like you practically work for them ''already''! And [[FanConvention this show]] could be a ''big'' break -- a guy who owes me a favor at {{Creator/DC|Comics}} is gonna introduce me around, [[HireTheCritic maybe even get me into the DC party]]. Not bad, huh?\\
'''(Jerry and Pete agree.)'''\\
No, not bad. I just have to keep workin' it... eat a few more years of ''shit'' until, one day, ''Shazam!'' [[PromotedFanboy There I am in the]] ''[[PromotedFanboy big]]'' [[PromotedFanboy sandbox]], full of all the ''best'' fuckin' toys ever. [-Franchise/{{Batman}}. Franchise/{{Superman}}. ComicBook/{{Superboy}}. Hal Jordan Franchise/GreenLantern. [[ComicBook/{{Valor}} Mon-El]].-] [--[[MadnessMantra Mon-El. Mon-El.]]--] Then, I start all over again -- only from ''within'', like a conquering ''virus'', until I'm in a position to establish my ''so-called "shitty" fan-fic as canon''. '''[[TheyCalledMeMad That'll show 'em. All of 'em! And the butthurt little fanshits that don't like it can go bag, board, and skull-fuck themselves]]!'''
-->'''Josh''' describes his plans for the future, ''The Eltingville Club'' #2, "Lo, There Shall Be An Epilogue!"
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->[=TL;DR:=] Western Comic Books are like a giant house that is never going to get finished because it is constantly being rebuilt and redesigned by a successive and never-ending stream of madmen, each of whom have a deep seated, fundamental, seething hatred of their predecessor's own, specific brand of madness.
-->'''[[https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/42361306/ Searcher8]]''', SpaceBattlesDotCom
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-->-- '''Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/time-can-be-rewritten-final-the-day-of-the-doctor/ on]] [[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor "The Day of the Doctor"]]

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-->-- '''Phil '''El Sandifer''' [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/time-can-be-rewritten-final-the-day-of-the-doctor/ on]] [[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor "The Day of the Doctor"]]
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-->-- '''Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2014/03/time-can-be-rewritten-final-day-of.html on]] [[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor "The Day of the Doctor"]]

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-->-- '''Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2014/03/time-can-be-rewritten-final-day-of.html eruditorumpress.com/blog/time-can-be-rewritten-final-the-day-of-the-doctor/ on]] [[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor "The Day of the Doctor"]]
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->In particular, recall the reason given in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii "The Fires of Pompeii"]] for why [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast you can't alter a fixed point in time]] -- because if you could, the Doctor could go and change the end of the Time War. So what does he do in the only story explicitly situated between [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E16TheWatersOfMars "The Waters of Mars"]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]]? He pilots his TARDIS into the Time War and [[AesopAmnesia changes the ending]]. On the surface, at least, it is difficult to come up with a less plausible or sensible answer to that question.... But for [[Creator/StevenMoffat (Steven) Moffat]], there are just things you don't do. Moffat has said in interviews that the resolution of the Time War always stuck in his craw a bit for the simple fact that, in his view, the Doctor wouldn't ''do'' that.

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->In particular, recall the reason given in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii "The Fires of Pompeii"]] for why [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast you can't alter a fixed point in time]] -- because if you could, the Doctor could go and change the end of the Time War. So what does he do in the only story explicitly situated between [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E16TheWatersOfMars "The Waters of Mars"]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]]? He pilots his TARDIS into the Time War and [[AesopAmnesia [[AssPull changes the ending]]. On the surface, at least, it is difficult to come up with a less plausible or sensible answer to that question....ending]]... But for [[Creator/StevenMoffat (Steven) Moffat]], there are just things you don't do. Moffat has said in interviews that the resolution of the Time War always stuck in his craw a bit for the simple fact that, in his view, the Doctor wouldn't ''do'' that.
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->[[In particular, recall the reason given in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii "The Fires of Pompeii"]] for why [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast you can't alter a fixed point in time]] -- because if you could, the Doctor could go and change the end of the Time War. So what does he do in the only story explicitly situated between [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E16TheWatersOfMars "The Waters of Mars"]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]]? He pilots his TARDIS into the Time War and [[AesopAmnesia changes the ending]]. On the surface, at least, it is difficult to come up with a less plausible or sensible answer to that question.... But for [[Creator/StevenMoffat (Steven) Moffat]], there are just things you don't do. Moffat has said in interviews that the resolution of the Time War always stuck in his craw a bit for the simple fact that, in his view, the Doctor wouldn't ''do'' that.

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->[[In ->In particular, recall the reason given in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii "The Fires of Pompeii"]] for why [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast you can't alter a fixed point in time]] -- because if you could, the Doctor could go and change the end of the Time War. So what does he do in the only story explicitly situated between [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E16TheWatersOfMars "The Waters of Mars"]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]]? He pilots his TARDIS into the Time War and [[AesopAmnesia changes the ending]]. On the surface, at least, it is difficult to come up with a less plausible or sensible answer to that question.... But for [[Creator/StevenMoffat (Steven) Moffat]], there are just things you don't do. Moffat has said in interviews that the resolution of the Time War always stuck in his craw a bit for the simple fact that, in his view, the Doctor wouldn't ''do'' that.
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-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2011/01/21/non-review-review-licence-to-kill/ Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Film/LicenseToKill''

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->In this feature we examine comic book stories and ideas that were not only abandoned, but also had the stories/plots specifically 'overturned' by a later writer (as if they were a legal precedent).
-->--'''''Comics Should Be Good''''', ''The Abandoned An' Forsaked''

->''Stradleyism: The act of dismissing an element of {{canon}} altogether on grounds of it being "stupid", without taking the effort to do something interesting with it.''
-->-- '''Thefourdotelipsis''', [[http://starwars.wikia.com/ Wookieepedia]], on Creator/DarkHorseComics writer Randy Stradley.

->Not content to ruin his own comics, [[Creator/KevinSmith (Kevin) Smith]] flashes back to one of the pivotal moments of ''[[ComicBook/BatmanYearOne Year One]]'' and decides that you know what? This would be way better with Batman [[PottyEmergency pissing himself.]]\\\
School in the summertime, folks. No class.
-->--'''Chris Sims''', [[http://comicsalliance.com/worst-of-the-worst-batman-the-widening-gyre-6/?trackback=tsmclip "Worst of the Worst: ‘Batman: The Widening Gyre’ #6"]]

->As the episode opens, we get another completely ludicrous "{{Previously On}} ''Smallville''" segment, where we find out that Clark, in typical Clark fashion, totally destroyed his Legion ring because he didn't want the responsibility of being able to go into the future... This really feels like one of those things where the people writing the show were having some huge, passive-aggressive argument through their scripts without ever talking to each other. Like Creator/GeoffJohns clearly wanted the door open for more [[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} Legion]] appearances, but then the next guy was like "NUH UH THAT'S DUMB!" and then the guy who wrote this one was like "[[NoYou NO YOU'RE DUMB]]," and the end result is that once again, Clark completely shirks any responsibility so that he [[StatusQuoIsGod can continue doing nothing.]]
-->-- ''[=ComicsAlliance=]'' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-8-22-doomsday/ on]] ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' ("Doomsday")

->‘How can hiding in one of Julian adolescent programs be a good sign?’ ‘[[ImStandingRightRightHere Hey!]]’ ‘It could be worse. He could be hiding in the Alamo program’ ‘''Hey!''’ ‘Or that ridiculous secret agent program!’ ‘'''''Hey!'''''’ ‘Or that stupid Viking program!’ – the ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'' comparisons continue! People praise Tom Paris to the high heavens for creating obscenely dull places like "Fair Haven" and yet Bashir is criticised for living out his adolescent fantasies in the holosuite. I know which show I believe in more!
-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/deep-space-nine-season-seven.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', "It's Only a Paper Moon"

->It turns out that the Andorians are correct; the Vulcans are using the monastery at P’Jem [[SpaceColdWar as a listening post to spy on their opponents]]. This was a rather controversial revelation among fans...despite all the protestations that ''Enterprise'' “[[RuinedFOREVER ruined]]” the Vulcans, the vast majority of Vulcans to appear on-screen before the prequel [[ScrewYouElves were not paradigms of enlightenment.]] Despite all these individual counter-examples, ''Star Trek'' fans seem fixated on the idea of Vulcan culture as some sort of romantic ideal, when the franchise was been reasonably consistent in its portrayal of Vulcan characters. In many ways, it is similar to the way that fandom tends to romanticise Gene Roddenberry, who is a very complex figure in the larger scheme of ''Star Trek.''\\\
And so, despite the on-screen evidence, fans are quick to try to “fix” these perceived problems, with various tie-ins and fan theories seeking to account for these actions...Indeed, ''Enterprise'' itself would succumb to the temptation to “fix” this portrayal of Vulcans during its fourth season with the show’s Vulcan trilogy – The Forge, Awakening and Kir’Shara. This was arguably one of many examples of how the fourth season was essentially writing (some very enjoyable) [[FixFic "fix it" fan fiction]] for the television screen. If anything, the new enlightened Vulcan of Awakening is harder to reconcile the rest of the franchise than anything from the first two seasons.
-->--'''Darren Mooney''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "The Andorian Incident"

->[[Creator/DavidTennant Tennant's]] Doctor, in this story, has just come off of [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E16TheWatersOfMars "The Waters of Mars"]] where his hubris and arrogance have seemingly damned him. Specifically, he's just arrogantly decided that he has the right as the Time Lord Victorious to rewrite history at will and without serious thought, and this arrogance has caused him to have to confront an omen of the imminence of his own death. In particular, recall the reason given in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii "The Fires of Pompeii"]] for why [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast you can't alter a fixed point in time]] -- because if you could, the Doctor could go and change the end of the Time War. So what does he do in the only story explicitly situated between "The Waters of Mars" and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]]? He pilots his TARDIS into the Time War and [[AesopAmnesia changes the ending]]. On the surface, at least, it is difficult to come up with a less plausible or sensible answer to that question.... But for [[Creator/StevenMoffat (Steven) Moffat]], there are just things you don't do. Moffat has said in interviews that the resolution of the Time War always stuck in his craw a bit for the simple fact that, in his view, the Doctor wouldn't ''do'' that.

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->In ->[[Creator/TimothyDalton Dalton’s]] Bond is a flawed character, but the movie embraces his flaws. While [[Creator/SeanConnery Connery]] and [[Creator/RogerMoore Moore]] were at times incredibly sexist, this feature we examine comic book stories and ideas marks the first time I noticed the movie calling Bond on his attitudes....M assures Bond that were not only abandoned, but also had MI6 is “not a country club” -- perhaps a direct reference the stories/plots specifically 'overturned' by a later writer (as if they were a legal precedent).
-->--'''''Comics Should Be Good''''', ''The Abandoned An' Forsaked''

->''Stradleyism: The act
excesses of dismissing an element of {{canon}} altogether on grounds of it being "stupid", without taking Moore’s time in the effort role, when it seemed like the spy organisation was basically a gentleman’s club Bond frequented?
-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2011/01/21/non-review-review-licence-to-kill/ Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Film/LicenseToKill''

->Nog’s reaction
to do something interesting with it.''
-->-- '''Thefourdotelipsis''', [[http://starwars.wikia.com/ Wookieepedia]], on Creator/DarkHorseComics writer Randy Stradley.

->Not content to ruin his own comics, [[Creator/KevinSmith (Kevin) Smith]] flashes back to one
been thrown out of the pivotal moments of ''[[ComicBook/BatmanYearOne Year One]]'' and decides that you know what? This would be way better with Batman [[PottyEmergency pissing himself.]]\\\
School in the summertime, folks. No class.
-->--'''Chris Sims''', [[http://comicsalliance.com/worst-of-the-worst-batman-the-widening-gyre-6/?trackback=tsmclip "Worst of the Worst: ‘Batman: The Widening Gyre’ #6"]]

->As the episode opens, we get another completely ludicrous "{{Previously On}} ''Smallville''" segment, where we find out that Clark, in typical Clark fashion, totally destroyed his Legion ring because he didn't want the responsibility of being able to go into the future... This really feels like one of those things where the people writing the show were having some huge, passive-aggressive argument through their scripts without ever talking to each other. Like Creator/GeoffJohns clearly wanted the door open for more [[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} Legion]] appearances, but then the next guy was like "NUH UH THAT'S DUMB!" and then the guy who wrote this one was like "[[NoYou NO YOU'RE DUMB]]," and the end result
programme is that once again, Clark completely shirks any responsibility so shocking -- it is clear that he [[StatusQuoIsGod can continue doing nothing.]]
-->-- ''[=ComicsAlliance=]'' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-8-22-doomsday/ on]] ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' ("Doomsday")

->‘How can hiding in one of Julian adolescent programs be a good sign?’ ‘[[ImStandingRightRightHere Hey!]]’ ‘It could be worse. He could be hiding in the Alamo program’ ‘''Hey!''’ ‘Or that ridiculous secret agent program!’ ‘'''''Hey!'''''’ ‘Or that stupid Viking program!’ – the ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'' comparisons continue!
has become entirely reliant on fiction...People praise [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tom Paris Paris]] to the high heavens for creating obscenely dull places like "Fair Haven" and yet Bashir is criticised for living out his adolescent fantasies in the holosuite. I know which show I believe in more!
-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/deep-space-nine-season-seven.html Doc Oho]]''' Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', "It's Only a Paper Moon"

->It turns out that the Andorians are correct; the Vulcans are using the monastery at P’Jem [[SpaceColdWar as a listening post to spy on their opponents]]. This was a rather controversial revelation among fans...despite all the protestations that ''Enterprise'' “[[RuinedFOREVER ruined]]” the Vulcans, the vast majority of Vulcans to appear on-screen before the prequel [[ScrewYouElves were not paradigms of enlightenment.]] Despite all these individual counter-examples, ''Star Trek'' fans seem fixated on the idea of Vulcan culture as some sort of romantic ideal, when the franchise was been reasonably consistent in its portrayal of Vulcan characters. In many ways, it is similar to the way that fandom tends to romanticise Gene Roddenberry, who is a very complex figure in the larger scheme of ''Star Trek.''\\\
And so, despite the on-screen evidence, fans are quick to try to “fix” these perceived problems, with various tie-ins and fan theories seeking to account for these actions...Indeed, ''Enterprise'' itself would succumb to the temptation to “fix” this portrayal of Vulcans during its fourth season with the show’s Vulcan trilogy – The Forge, Awakening and Kir’Shara. This was arguably one of many examples of how the fourth season was essentially writing (some very enjoyable) [[FixFic "fix it" fan fiction]] for the television screen. If anything, the new enlightened Vulcan of Awakening is harder to reconcile the rest of the franchise than anything from the first two seasons.
-->--'''Darren Mooney''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "The Andorian Incident"

->[[Creator/DavidTennant Tennant's]] Doctor, in this story, has just come off of [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E16TheWatersOfMars "The Waters of Mars"]] where his hubris and arrogance have seemingly damned him. Specifically, he's just arrogantly decided that he has the right as the Time Lord Victorious to rewrite history at will and without serious thought, and this arrogance has caused him to have to confront an omen of the imminence of his own death. In
->[[In particular, recall the reason given in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii "The Fires of Pompeii"]] for why [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast you can't alter a fixed point in time]] -- because if you could, the Doctor could go and change the end of the Time War. So what does he do in the only story explicitly situated between [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E16TheWatersOfMars "The Waters of Mars" Mars"]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]]? He pilots his TARDIS into the Time War and [[AesopAmnesia changes the ending]]. On the surface, at least, it is difficult to come up with a less plausible or sensible answer to that question.... But for [[Creator/StevenMoffat (Steven) Moffat]], there are just things you don't do. Moffat has said in interviews that the resolution of the Time War always stuck in his craw a bit for the simple fact that, in his view, the Doctor wouldn't ''do'' that.
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->As the episode opens, we get another completely ludicrous '{{Previously On}} ''Smallville''[='=] segment, where we find out that Clark, in typical Clark fashion, totally destroyed his Legion ring because he didn’t want the responsibility of being able to go into the future... This really feels like one of those things where the people writing the show were having some huge, passive-aggressive argument through their scripts without ever talking to each other. Like GeoffJohns clearly wanted the door open for more [[LegionOfSuperheroes Legion]] appearances, but then the next guy was like 'NUH UH THAT’S DUMB!' and then the guy who wrote this one was like '[[NoYou NO YOU’RE DUMB]],' and the end result is that once again, Clark completely shirks any responsibility so that he [[StatusQuoIsGod can continue doing nothing.]]
-->--'''''[=ComicsAlliance=]''''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-8-22-doomsday/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("Doomsday")

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->As the episode opens, we get another completely ludicrous '{{Previously "{{Previously On}} ''Smallville''[='=] ''Smallville''" segment, where we find out that Clark, in typical Clark fashion, totally destroyed his Legion ring because he didn’t didn't want the responsibility of being able to go into the future... This really feels like one of those things where the people writing the show were having some huge, passive-aggressive argument through their scripts without ever talking to each other. Like GeoffJohns Creator/GeoffJohns clearly wanted the door open for more [[LegionOfSuperheroes [[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} Legion]] appearances, but then the next guy was like 'NUH "NUH UH THAT’S DUMB!' THAT'S DUMB!" and then the guy who wrote this one was like '[[NoYou "[[NoYou NO YOU’RE DUMB]],' YOU'RE DUMB]]," and the end result is that once again, Clark completely shirks any responsibility so that he [[StatusQuoIsGod can continue doing nothing.]]
-->--'''''[=ComicsAlliance=]''''' -->-- ''[=ComicsAlliance=]'' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-8-22-doomsday/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' ("Doomsday")
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->It turns out that the Andorians are correct; the Vulcans are using the monastery at P’Jem [[SpaceColdWar as a listening post to spy on their opponents]]. This was a rather controversial revelation among fans...despite all the protestations that ''Enterprise'' “[[RuinedFOREVER ruined]]” the Vulcans, the vast majority of Vulcans to appear on-screen before the prequel [[ScrewYouElves were not paradigms of enlightenment.]] Despite all these individual counter-examples, ''Star Trek'' fans seem fixated on the idea of Vulcan culture as some sort of romantic ideal, when the franchise was been reasonably consistent in its portrayal of Vulcan characters. In many ways, it is similar to the way that fandom tends to romanticise Gene Roddenberry, who is a very complex figure in the larger scheme of ''Star Trek.''\\\
And so, despite the on-screen evidence, fans are quick to try to “fix” these perceived problems, with various tie-ins and fan theories seeking to account for these actions...Indeed, ''Enterprise'' itself would succumb to the temptation to “fix” this portrayal of Vulcans during its fourth season with the show’s Vulcan trilogy – The Forge, Awakening and Kir’Shara. This was arguably one of many examples of how the fourth season was essentially writing (some very enjoyable) [[FixFic "fix it" fan fiction]] for the television screen. If anything, the new enlightened Vulcan of Awakening is harder to reconcile the rest of the franchise than anything from the first two seasons.
-->--'''Darren Mooney''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "The Andorian Incident"

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