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** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, but he is so good he manage to do it anyway.

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** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, but he is so good he manage manages to do it anyway.
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** To turn the wooden sword into the InfinityPlusOneSword, you must defeat the BonusBoss ''with the wooden sword equipped.''

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** To turn the wooden sword into the InfinityPlusOneSword, you must defeat the BonusBoss {{Superboss}} ''with the wooden sword equipped.''

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** Bob is given a sling, knife, and a quarterstaff. Those are actually perfect tools for his task to deliver a message to a distant kingdom. Swords would get him mistaken as a bandit, and bows as a poacher. A quarterstaff is good enough for defense against bandits, a good assistant on a long hike, and the weaknesses of not interacting well with formation fighting don't matter to a single traveler. The sling has effectively infinite ammo and it assumed shows only an intent for defense against beasts or hunting small game nobility doesn't care about. Everything is low valued enough that he doesn't even look worth robbing.



* '''Conversed''': "Don't you find it ridicoulous for heroes famed worldwide to go on a quest to kill [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]] [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu with a sword]]?

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* '''Conversed''': "Don't you find it ridicoulous ridiculous for heroes famed worldwide to go on a quest to kill [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]] [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu with a sword]]?

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*** Or maybe Bob, a mere commoner, wants to marry the King's daughter, [[PrincessClassic the fair Princess Alice]] when the King [[ArrangedMarriage wants her to marry]] Prince Charles of Tropestan. Not wishing to lose face, the King offers Alice as a StandardHeroReward whilst really setting Bob up to fail for his impudence.

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*** Or maybe ** Bob, a mere commoner, wants to marry the King's daughter, [[PrincessClassic the fair Princess Alice]] when the King [[ArrangedMarriage wants her to marry]] Prince Charles of Tropestan. Not wishing to lose face, the King offers Alice as a StandardHeroReward whilst really setting Bob up to fail for his impudence.



** Bob is questing for a legendary sword, a shield that can block anything, and armor that has amazing effects on its wearer, as either part of or the whole quest, so it might just seem prudent to give Bob enough that he can protect himself against known monster around [[GreenHillZone the village/city he is leaving from]], possibly thinking that he will get at least one of the set before he gets into truly deadly areas or just doesn't know that next village over they have a more deadly monster problem.

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** Bob is questing for a legendary sword, a shield that can block anything, and armor that has amazing effects on its wearer, as either part of or the whole quest, so it might just seem prudent to give Bob enough that he can protect himself against known monster monsters around [[GreenHillZone the village/city he is leaving from]], possibly thinking that he will get at least one of the set before he gets into truly deadly areas or just doesn't know that next village over they have a more deadly monster problem.


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** The King needs plausible deniability in his role in sending Bob on his quest, and cannot arm him with anything that could be traced back to him.
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** Bob is a private citizen who set of on his own without proper gear.

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** Bob is a private citizen who set of off on his own without proper gear.
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** Emperor Evulz starts his quest to TakeOverTheWorld with nothing but his underpants and a rusty stick to his name.
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* '''Conversed''': "Don't you find it ridicoulous for heroes famed worldwide to go on a quest to kill [[CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]] [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu with a sword]]?

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* '''Conversed''': "Don't you find it ridicoulous for heroes famed worldwide to go on a quest to kill [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]] [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu with a sword]]?
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*** Or maybe Bob, a mere commoner, wants to marry the King's daughter, [[PincessClassic the fair Princess Alice]] when the King [[ArrangedMarriage wants her to marry]] Prince Charles of Tropestan. Not wishing to lose face, the King offers Alice as a StandardHeroReward whilst really setting Bob up to fail for his impudence.

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*** Or maybe Bob, a mere commoner, wants to marry the King's daughter, [[PincessClassic [[PrincessClassic the fair Princess Alice]] when the King [[ArrangedMarriage wants her to marry]] Prince Charles of Tropestan. Not wishing to lose face, the King offers Alice as a StandardHeroReward whilst really setting Bob up to fail for his impudence.



** Bob made a bet with the King regarding the quest. You don't back out of a bet with the King. Either the King's money is on Bob failing, or Bob deliberately picks substandard equipment as part of a FailureGambit.

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** Bob made a bet with the King regarding the quest. [[ButThouMust You don't back out of a bet with the King. King.]] Either the King's money is on Bob failing, or Bob deliberately picks substandard equipment as part of a FailureGambit.

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* '''Straight''': King of Troperia sends [[TheHero Bob]] on a quest to defeat [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]]. He's equipped with a knife and a shield.

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* '''Straight''': The King of Troperia sends [[TheHero Bob]] on a quest to defeat [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]]. He's equipped with a knife and a shield.



*** Or maybe Bob, a mere commoner, wants to marry the King's daughter, [[PincessClassic the fair Princess Alice]] when the King [[ArrangedMarriage wants her to marry]] Prince Charles of Tropestan. Not wishing to lose face, the King offers Alice as a StandardHeroReward whilst really setting Bob up to fail for his impudence.



** Bob and the King have no idea what they're sending bob to. Bob might have the sharpest sword in the kingdom and the best protection, but where he's going that counts for very little, possibly the best weapons are made out of pure magic rather than materiel, meaning that Bob did have good equipment, but the situation made it either worthless in comparison or his weapon just isn't as useful.

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** Bob and the King have no idea what they're sending bob Bob to. Bob might have the sharpest sword in the kingdom and the best protection, but where he's going that counts for very little, possibly the best weapons are made out of pure magic rather than materiel, meaning that Bob did have good equipment, but the situation made it either worthless in comparison or his weapon just isn't as useful.


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** Bob made a bet with the King regarding the quest. You don't back out of a bet with the King. Either the King's money is on Bob failing, or Bob deliberately picks substandard equipment as part of a FailureGambit.
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** Bob starts his quest with AwesomeButImpractical gear that looks nice but isn't actually very helpful, so he instead goes about gathering up [[BoringButPractical humbler but more effective weaponry.]]


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* '''Plot Foundation''': This is used to cement Bob's status as a GuileHero and/or badass: just give him a pistol and airdrop him onto a remote island somewhere, and he'll have a BFG and a small fortune when he gets back on that luxury yacht he stole from Evulz.
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** Bob's pebbles are useless at the beginning, and he gets pounded into the ground. Bob practices [[BruceLee ten thousand times]] at [[DavidVersusGoliath throwing the pebbles]] and they become an adequate weapon.

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** Bob's pebbles are useless at the beginning, and he gets pounded into the ground. Bob practices [[BruceLee [[Creator/BruceLee ten thousand times]] at [[DavidVersusGoliath throwing the pebbles]] and they become an adequate weapon.

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** The kingdom Bob comes from is one of the few that remained unattacked. To prevent an attack the good king sends Bob with the best weapons he can part with. As you adventure farther and father, you find out just why your starting weapons can easily be replaced by better ones: The kingdom is actually poor and has few things going for it aside from farming, and the reason they weren't attacked wasn't because they could defend themselves, it was because they just weren't worth it.



* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': The kingdom bob comes from is one of the few that remained unattacked. To prevent an attack the good king sends Bob with the best weapons he can part with. As you adventure farther and father, you find out just why your starting weapons can easily be replaced by better ones: The kingdom is actually poor and has few things going for it aside from farming, and the reason they weren't attacked wasn't because they could defend themselves, it was because they just weren't worth it.
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** Emperor Evulz stole most king's and Bob's equipment, leaving them with the weakest one.

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** Emperor Evulz stole most king's of the King's and Bob's equipment, leaving them with the weakest one.



** Bob is questing for a legendary sword, a shield that can block anything, and armor that has amazing effects on it's wearer, as either part of or the whole quest, so it might just seem prudent to give Bob enough that he can protect himself against known monster around [[GreenHillZone the village/city he is leaving from]], possibly thinking that he will get at least one of the set before he gets into truly deadly areas or just doesn't know that next village over they have a more deadly monster problem.

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** Bob is questing for a legendary sword, a shield that can block anything, and armor that has amazing effects on it's its wearer, as either part of or the whole quest, so it might just seem prudent to give Bob enough that he can protect himself against known monster around [[GreenHillZone the village/city he is leaving from]], possibly thinking that he will get at least one of the set before he gets into truly deadly areas or just doesn't know that next village over they have a more deadly monster problem.



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** The kingdom simply doesn't have any good equipment available to equip Bob with; maybe they're broke, maybe there's a material shortage, maybe they just don't have access to good metalworking or firearm technology there.

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** Bob is [[ItsRainingMen airdropped]] deep behind enemy lines with a stealth glider to avoid being shot down before arriving at the place where he must be dropped, and he can only carry limited equipment. Sure, a BFG would be great, but given the rate at which such babies eat through ammo, it's not gonna be useful to him for long, so he's forced to bring with him only [[BoringButPractical low powered but reliable equipment]] and make do with what he will find.



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* '''Discussed''': ???"Are you sure sending Bob with a knife, a pistol and C-4 is going to be enough?" "Unless you have a plan to insert him deep behind enemy lines with a lot of equipment and without him getting shot down, we're gonna have to hope it will be."

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** Bob majorly screwed up and the King is trying to let him redeem himself in the course of his quest.



** [[ATasteOfPower ...And he promptly loses it all twenty minutes after starting his mission.]]

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** [[ATasteOfPower ...And he promptly loses it all twenty minutes minutes]] [[BagOfSpilling after starting his mission.]]
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** Bob thinks he's going to get a load of crappy gear, but is instead given a bunch of top-end equipment...


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** [[ATasteOfPower ...And he promptly loses it all twenty minutes after starting his mission.]]
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* '''Played For Laughs''': When passing by a lake, Bob fishes for a bit and catches one, entering a random battle with it equipped he will say "Wow, this is better than that junk the king gave me. Why don't the guards just use fish?"

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* '''Played For Laughs''': When passing by a lake, Bob fishes for a bit and catches one, [[ShamuFu entering a random battle with it equipped equipped]] he will say "Wow, this is better than that junk the king gave me. Why don't the guards just use fish?"

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* '''Implied''': It's never shown in the inventory, but after a few points, the sword and shield Bob are using is changed and he gets a stat boost when this happens. By the end of the game, if one goes out of their way to not gain stats, they see the starting and middle boosts are vastly improved.



* '''Implied''': It's never shown in the inventory, but after a few points, the sword and shield Bob are using is changed and he gets a stat boost when this happens. By the end of the game, if one goes out of their way to not gain stats, they see the starting and middle boosts are vastly improved.



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