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** It was never about Utopia. It was about always about power and his own ego. [[AGodAmI All Omnium wanted was to be at the top of the food chain]] and force ''his'' beliefs on everyone, regardless if they really were for the greater good or not.
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** It was never about Utopia. It was about always about power and his own ego. [[AGodAmI All Omnium wanted was to be at the top of the food chain]] and force ''his'' beliefs on everyone, regardless if they really were for the greater good or not.
** Omnium has some truly messed up ideas on justice and utopia from the get go. Some of his ideas for utopia include murdering people for not conforming to what is expected of them, [[FinalSolution killing everyone not of his race]], and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking being able to drink directly out of the milk carton without punishment.]]
** Omnium has some truly messed up ideas on justice and utopia from the get go. Some of his ideas for utopia include murdering people for not conforming to what is expected of them, [[FinalSolution killing everyone not of his race]], and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking being able to drink directly out of the milk carton without punishment.]]
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* '''Deconstructed''': Despite starting off with the best of intentions, Omnium loses his way [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil as he compromises more and more with nefarious forces]] who only seek to use his idealism for their own purposes. His utopian proposals [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans slowly mutate into initiatives to secure more money and power for himself]], until eventually he [[TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget has no intentions of making a better world for anyone]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Despite starting off with the best of intentions, Omnium loses his way [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil as he compromises more and more with nefarious forces]] who only seek to use his idealism for their own purposes. His utopian proposals [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans slowly mutate into initiatives to secure more money and power for himself]], until eventually he [[TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget has no intentions of making a better world for anyone]].
** Despite starting off with the best of intentions, Omnium loses his way [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil as he compromises more and more with nefarious forces]] who only seek to use his idealism for their own purposes. His utopian proposals [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans slowly mutate into initiatives to secure more money and power for himself]], until eventually he [[TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget has no intentions of making a better world for anyone]].
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* '''Justified''': InAWorld [[CrapsackWorld binded by corruption, selfishness and ignorance on all sides]], Omnium's worldview holds plenty of appeal.
* '''Inverted''': Omnium has no illusions about human perfectability, and is only interested in [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans creating a world where he has total control]].
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** InAWorld [[CrapsackWorld binded by corruption, selfishness and ignorance on all sides]], Omnium's worldview holds plenty of appeal.
** [[KnightTemplar Seeing himself as the savior of a benighted world]] makes the most egregious atrocities in the name of progress easy for [[InsufferableGenius Omnium]] to accept.
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** Omnium has no illusions about human perfectability, and is only interested in [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans creating a world where he has total control]].
** InAWorld [[CrapsackWorld binded by corruption, selfishness and ignorance on all sides]], Omnium's worldview holds plenty of appeal.
** [[KnightTemplar Seeing himself as the savior of a benighted world]] makes the most egregious atrocities in the name of progress easy for [[InsufferableGenius Omnium]] to accept.
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* '''Enforced''': [[KnightTemplar Seeing himself as the savior of a benighted world]] makes the most egregious atrocities in the name of progress easy for [[InsufferableGenius Omnium]] to accept.
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* '''Enforced''': [[KnightTemplar Seeing himself as It's a classic trope in case the savior of a benighted world]] makes the most egregious atrocities in the name of progress easy writers have exhausted every other reason for [[InsufferableGenius Omnium]] to accept. world domination.
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** Omnium [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans wants a society where it can maximize human suffering and pain for the hell of it.]]
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* '''Straight''': [[ScienceHero Dr. Omnium]], a [[HundredPercentAdorationRating world-renowned, well-respected]] [[OmnidisciplinaryScientist Renaissance man]], is a vocal proponent of [[WellIntentionedExtremist drastic action]] when it comes to improving the state of the world, [[TheNeedsOfTheMany even if it means]] [[TotalitarianUtilitarian curtailing certain liberties]].
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* '''Straight''': [[ScienceHero Dr. Omnium]], a [[HundredPercentAdorationRating [[LovedByAll world-renowned, well-respected]] [[OmnidisciplinaryScientist Renaissance man]], is a vocal proponent of [[WellIntentionedExtremist drastic action]] when it comes to improving the state of the world, [[TheNeedsOfTheMany even if it means]] [[TotalitarianUtilitarian curtailing certain liberties]].
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* '''Parodied''': Omnium's plans boil down to [[KillEmAll "blow everything up and start over"]].
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** While he outright says that [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids "utopia" is highly unrealistic and idealist bullshit]], Omnium genuinely wants to improve the lives of the less fortunate in the world in the most humanly achievable way possible, even if he has to resort to more, ''[[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer violent]]'', tactics in doing so.
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** While he outright says that [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids "utopia" is highly unrealistic and idealist bullshit]], Omnium genuinely wants to improve the lives of the less fortunate in the world in the most humanly achievable way possible, even if he has to resort to more, more ''[[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer violent]]'', violent]]'' tactics in doing to do so.
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** Despite his ideals, Omnium [[TheFettered tries not to cross moral lines as much as possible]] while enacting his proposals.
** Despite his ideals, Omnium [[TheFettered tries not to cross moral lines as much as possible]] while enacting his proposals.
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**'''Downplayed''': Despite his ideals, Omnium [[TheFettered tries not to cross moral lines as much as possible]] while enacting his proposals.
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* '''Downplayed''': Despite his ideals, Omnium [[TheFettered tries not to cross moral lines as much as possible]] while enacting his proposals.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Despite his ideals, Omnium [[TheFettered tries not to cross moral lines as much as possible]] while enacting hisproposals. proposals.
** While he outright says that [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids "utopia" is highly unrealistic and idealist bullshit]], Omnium genuinely wants to improve the lives of the less fortunate in the world in the most humanly achievable way possible, even if he has to resort to more, ''[[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer violent]]'', tactics in doing so.
** Despite his ideals, Omnium [[TheFettered tries not to cross moral lines as much as possible]] while enacting his
** While he outright says that [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids "utopia" is highly unrealistic and idealist bullshit]], Omnium genuinely wants to improve the lives of the less fortunate in the world in the most humanly achievable way possible, even if he has to resort to more, ''[[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer violent]]'', tactics in doing so.
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* '''Conversed''': In [[DoNotAdjustYourSet a worldwide televised broadcast]], Omnium lays his cards on the table as to why the world needs his ideas implemented , [[GrandInquisitorScene accounting for all possible objections in a calm and rational manner]].
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* '''Conversed''': In [[DoNotAdjustYourSet a worldwide televised broadcast]], Omnium lays his cards on the table as to why the world needs his ideas implemented , implemented, [[GrandInquisitorScene accounting for all possible objections in a calm and rational manner]].
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'''Basic Trope''': A better world is [[ShootTheDog worth any sacrifice]].
* '''Straight''': [[ScienceHero Dr. Omnium]], a [[HundredPercentAdorationRating world-renowned, well-respected]] [[OmnidisciplinaryScientist Renaissance man]], is a vocal proponent of [[WellIntentionedExtremist drastic action]] when it comes to improving the state of the world, [[TheNeedsOfTheMany even if it means]] [[TotalitarianUtilitarian curtailing certain liberties]].
* '''Exaggerated''': As a man who [[TheUnfettered will sacrifice anything to achieve his goals]], Omnium seeks to improve daily life by any means necessary, up to and including [[DealWithTheDevil making a bargain with the Devil himself]].
* '''Downplayed''': Despite his ideals, Omnium [[TheFettered tries not to cross moral lines as much as possible]] while enacting his proposals.
* '''Justified''': InAWorld [[CrapsackWorld binded by corruption, selfishness and ignorance on all sides]], Omnium's worldview holds plenty of appeal.
* '''Inverted''': Omnium has no illusions about human perfectability, and is only interested in [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans creating a world where he has total control]].
* '''Subverted''': Omnium is perfectly alright with the potential cost of his plans, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone until he sees the impact in person]]. After that, he uses it [[MyGreatestFailure as a reminder of what happens when all caution is thrown to the wind]], and [[TheAtoner he does his best to mitigate the damage already done]] while continuing to strive for improvement.
* '''Parodied''': Omnium's plans boil down to [[KillEmAll "blow everything up and start over"]].
* '''Zig Zagged''': Initial efforts by Omnium to help the world are stymied [[InherentInTheSystem once he fully recognizes the scope of the problem]]. After [[MissionCreep several years of trying and failing to expand his definition of "save the world"]], he gives up in despair, only to be reinvigorated once [[FromBadToWorse things get bad enough for the world to appreciate his kind of vision]], and from then on, single-mindedly pursues utopia at any cost.
* '''Averted''': Omnium is content to [[SmallStepsHero improve the world in small but tangible ways]], an [[BoringButPractical easier and more workable alternative]] to [[AwesomeButImpractical big, grandiose plans for reorganization]].
* '''Enforced''': [[KnightTemplar Seeing himself as the savior of a benighted world]] makes the most egregious atrocities in the name of progress easy for [[InsufferableGenius Omnium]] to accept.
* '''Lampshaded''': Omnium is considered a fringe scientist for his radical views, and the plans has for the world are considered "outlandish", to say the least.
* '''Invoked''': The world is teetering on the edge of disaster. [[TheExtremistWasRight When the only alternative is extinction, Omnium chooses to step in and guide humanity into tomorrow with a firm hand]].
* '''Defied''': Omnium recognizes there are lines that can't be crossed in the effort to build a better world, and stays as far from them as humanly possible.
* '''Exploited''': The plans Omnium has for the world [[ItsAllAboutMe primarily benefit him and his interests]] rather than those of society as a whole, making his initiatives less of a humanitarian effort and more of [[InTheirOwnImage a massive ego trip]].
* '''Discussed''': The cynical Dr. Imperius [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech takes Omnium to task]] about [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill the number of human traits he would have to violate]] to make his precious perfect society work.
* '''Conversed''': In [[DoNotAdjustYourSet a worldwide televised broadcast]], Omnium lays his cards on the table as to why the world needs his ideas implemented , [[GrandInquisitorScene accounting for all possible objections in a calm and rational manner]].
* '''Implied''': Concepts of an earthly {{Utopia}}, {{Transhumanism}} and TheSingularity figure heavily into Omnium's designs.
* '''Deconstructed''': Despite starting off with the best of intentions, Omnium loses his way [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil as he compromises more and more with nefarious forces]] who only seek to use his idealism for their own purposes. His utopian proposals [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans slowly mutate into initiatives to secure more money and power for himself]], until eventually he [[TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget has no intentions of making a better world for anyone]].
** The radical side of Omnium's worldview only comes to the fore after years of being [[IgnoredExpert shunted aside by the powers-that-be]], resulting in a situation where extreme measures are the only possible option.
* '''Reconstructed''': Omnium recognizes [[NecessarilyEvil his actions for creating a better world are monstrous]], and understands that even if his efforts succeed, [[NoPlaceForMeThere he will never be rewarded or have a chance to enjoy them because of it]]. Having mentally and emotionally accepted these costs, [[{{Determinator}} he presses forward with his plans undaunted]].
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* '''Straight''': [[ScienceHero Dr. Omnium]], a [[HundredPercentAdorationRating world-renowned, well-respected]] [[OmnidisciplinaryScientist Renaissance man]], is a vocal proponent of [[WellIntentionedExtremist drastic action]] when it comes to improving the state of the world, [[TheNeedsOfTheMany even if it means]] [[TotalitarianUtilitarian curtailing certain liberties]].
* '''Exaggerated''': As a man who [[TheUnfettered will sacrifice anything to achieve his goals]], Omnium seeks to improve daily life by any means necessary, up to and including [[DealWithTheDevil making a bargain with the Devil himself]].
* '''Downplayed''': Despite his ideals, Omnium [[TheFettered tries not to cross moral lines as much as possible]] while enacting his proposals.
* '''Justified''': InAWorld [[CrapsackWorld binded by corruption, selfishness and ignorance on all sides]], Omnium's worldview holds plenty of appeal.
* '''Inverted''': Omnium has no illusions about human perfectability, and is only interested in [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans creating a world where he has total control]].
* '''Subverted''': Omnium is perfectly alright with the potential cost of his plans, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone until he sees the impact in person]]. After that, he uses it [[MyGreatestFailure as a reminder of what happens when all caution is thrown to the wind]], and [[TheAtoner he does his best to mitigate the damage already done]] while continuing to strive for improvement.
* '''Parodied''': Omnium's plans boil down to [[KillEmAll "blow everything up and start over"]].
* '''Zig Zagged''': Initial efforts by Omnium to help the world are stymied [[InherentInTheSystem once he fully recognizes the scope of the problem]]. After [[MissionCreep several years of trying and failing to expand his definition of "save the world"]], he gives up in despair, only to be reinvigorated once [[FromBadToWorse things get bad enough for the world to appreciate his kind of vision]], and from then on, single-mindedly pursues utopia at any cost.
* '''Averted''': Omnium is content to [[SmallStepsHero improve the world in small but tangible ways]], an [[BoringButPractical easier and more workable alternative]] to [[AwesomeButImpractical big, grandiose plans for reorganization]].
* '''Enforced''': [[KnightTemplar Seeing himself as the savior of a benighted world]] makes the most egregious atrocities in the name of progress easy for [[InsufferableGenius Omnium]] to accept.
* '''Lampshaded''': Omnium is considered a fringe scientist for his radical views, and the plans has for the world are considered "outlandish", to say the least.
* '''Invoked''': The world is teetering on the edge of disaster. [[TheExtremistWasRight When the only alternative is extinction, Omnium chooses to step in and guide humanity into tomorrow with a firm hand]].
* '''Defied''': Omnium recognizes there are lines that can't be crossed in the effort to build a better world, and stays as far from them as humanly possible.
* '''Exploited''': The plans Omnium has for the world [[ItsAllAboutMe primarily benefit him and his interests]] rather than those of society as a whole, making his initiatives less of a humanitarian effort and more of [[InTheirOwnImage a massive ego trip]].
* '''Discussed''': The cynical Dr. Imperius [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech takes Omnium to task]] about [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill the number of human traits he would have to violate]] to make his precious perfect society work.
* '''Conversed''': In [[DoNotAdjustYourSet a worldwide televised broadcast]], Omnium lays his cards on the table as to why the world needs his ideas implemented , [[GrandInquisitorScene accounting for all possible objections in a calm and rational manner]].
* '''Implied''': Concepts of an earthly {{Utopia}}, {{Transhumanism}} and TheSingularity figure heavily into Omnium's designs.
* '''Deconstructed''': Despite starting off with the best of intentions, Omnium loses his way [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil as he compromises more and more with nefarious forces]] who only seek to use his idealism for their own purposes. His utopian proposals [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans slowly mutate into initiatives to secure more money and power for himself]], until eventually he [[TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget has no intentions of making a better world for anyone]].
** The radical side of Omnium's worldview only comes to the fore after years of being [[IgnoredExpert shunted aside by the powers-that-be]], resulting in a situation where extreme measures are the only possible option.
* '''Reconstructed''': Omnium recognizes [[NecessarilyEvil his actions for creating a better world are monstrous]], and understands that even if his efforts succeed, [[NoPlaceForMeThere he will never be rewarded or have a chance to enjoy them because of it]]. Having mentally and emotionally accepted these costs, [[{{Determinator}} he presses forward with his plans undaunted]].
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